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mttiinm of inter«Commun((at(on 



Whenfoimflyjisak^'iCSI^te-a^^QAPTAiN Cuttle. 


January — June, 1855. 





[No, 271 

design e in mentioning tMs, save ttat if you find 
it an error it may be corrected in the next edition. 
I shall be obliged to )<m for the like lavt>ur, if 
you please to give jourselfe the trouble to read 
my book, w*"** was seen by no man but myself "till 
it past y" press, yTore I cannot think it without 
oyersights, I am, 

Sir, yo' m" hu. scrv', 

I Jno, Cast. 

I To John Locke, Eaq» 

This letter, and the accompanying book, did 
not reai:h Locke until the lUhof the tolloiving 
April, How the delay arose does not appear, 
Locke immediately ri^plied aa follows : 

Oat€s, 12 Apr., *96. 
Worthy S% 

Y*^ obleigeing letter of Jan, 11, with the most ac- 
ceptable present of y'' booke w'^'^ uci'ompanied it, 
came not to my hamla till late laiit night. The lin- 
gering of it 8oe long by the way has upon muny ac- 
counis been a misfortune to me. It \\ms deprived me 
©f the pleasure and instructiona I might hare bad 
from the perusall i\(y' Es^say. It has ina<le me l»ose 
tbeoportunity oftorrciitingagreat fuult, w*^'' having 
passi-'d the presse in the fin^t edition of my unswcr 
to Mr. Lowndes, I wish y' timely and very kinde 
Admonition had come enrly enough to have marie 
me fset riLiht in the second. But moiit of nil I am 
troubhJt that it has 5oe long di-lriyd my thanks to 
one, who by hia undeserveil civilily bus Foe jn^it a 
right to (hem. And I might reji^oivsibly ii|i pre- 
bend what thoughts of me ftoelimg a silence might 
raise in y'^, did I ujt pcrswade mvself that the 
goml opinion y" are pleased to exjiresse of uie in 
y' letter, would not let y" impute my silence to 
the worst of causes, ill brectling tind ingratitude, 
till y" were satisfied that the slowness of my ac- 
knitwledgm* was owing to noe thing but pure 
nej*h'cf in me. This srop fsoe unlurkily put to the 
beginning of my ncquuintauce widi y" I hope y" 
will neruiitt me to rrpuire by my fasl^-r growth in 
it. riiinke not this a romjikMh* in rHurne*oy' 
civility, W^^*" hiis miiile the overture. This request 
hn» TOfHC weighty iiMitivc* than what T have re* 
ceived from y"i ihou^ih I m knowled;ie y' book and 
y' letter have very mmh obh^igt^d me. Aworihy 
rati«>nul man antl a distiute reused lover of Iim 
CouniTv is Mie valuable a ihin^j, y* I tbinke I may 
be ;*lhiwcd to hi very aiubltiouii uf ^ucli acquaint- 
ance wherever I can meet with it Give me leave 
then, ihiw y* y" have dp-ne^J the way to it, to own 
an imp II tie nee to be ad nut ted into tlie freedotu of 
familiarity ami cmumuiiioition. For though 1 
have n^tt yet the liappynesse to know y' face, yet 
I am not wholy a st rangier to y' character. 

I >h:dl say n(>lhing now of y' booke : the few 
hours I have had it, have permitted nif barely to 
cast nty eye in hsist on the thrfe or fower first 
pages. I ihall imploy tlie first leisure I have to 


read it over with attention, and to shew that I 
think my self already past the terms of complem* 
with y" I shall yery frankly doe what in the close 
of y' letter y" desire of me; and whereof y" have 
set me so friendly an example in the erior y"* have 
shew'' me in mine. 

I am, worthy S% 

T'^most humble nnri most 
obleiged servant, 

JuiIN LocKB. 
Rcc* Aprill 15*^, 
Answ. y« n***) 

Gary answered this letter on the 17th April, 
immediately after its receipt. A copy of his 
answer is preserved in the MS. whence the other 
letters are derived : — Achliuomd MS. Brit. Mus. 
5,540. In the course of C:iry*s reply, he remark**d» 
*'The freedome I took in laying before jou the 
Printers Krrors in yo' answer to Mr. Lown<lesyou 
lire pleased to excuse, and to take it with the same 
camlor I int4?mle<l it,'' On the 2nd May Locke 
returned the following excellent reply : 

Gates, 2 May, "9(j. 
Worthy S^ 

I have reud over your Essay of Trade y" did rae 
the favour to seiul me, and have found'tbe satis- 
fur tion I expected. It answers the character I 
had of y", and is the beat discourse I ever read on 
that subject, not only fnr the cicaroessc of all 
that y"^ deliver and the undimhted evidence of 
most of it, but for a reason that weighs with me 
more than both these, and that !«, th-at sincere 
iiime at the publick good and that diniuteressed 
reasoning Ibut appears to me tn all y' pnipo-^als; 
a thing that I have not been able to finde in those 
antborfi on the same argument w''*' I have looked 
it] to. This makes me dare to owne to y" that 
tl(ere are some few things in it wherein my opinion 
differs from y", but yet I like not y^ booke one jot 
the worse, since I can promise myselfe from a man 
of y^ ingenuity, an<l one who covers not by-intcrest 
of bis owne under the pretence of serving the 
pul)!iikj that when I have the oportunity to 
debate them with y", either I shall be brought to 
Tighter thouglita by y'^ etrontier reason, or else 
that y" will not reject anything I bhnil offer be- 
I 'ft use y" have been of nn other minde. In all 
debates with any one, all that I desire L^, that 
b*tween us the truth nuiy be found, but whether 
1 brou^dit it thither, or carry it away, instead of an 
error that tooke its place before, I am little con- 
ceruod ; only in the latter case I am sure I am the 
greater gainer. 

One tiling I have to complain of y' booke, but 
it is the comfdaint of a greedy man, and that is, 
that it is too little; but a second edition will give 
%" an oportunity to eidurge it, and 1 hope you will 
dr«e soe. He y* eould say soe much can say a 
great deale more If be will, and y"* doe as good as 


fAS. 6. 1855.] 


confease It in several parts of y' Essay. Y** cannot 
employ y ihought^s on a more necessary or useful! 
subject. The country *;ent., who h most con- 
cerned in a rij^lit ordering of trade, both in duty 
and interest, is of bU others the most remote from 
any true notions of it» or SPnae of his slake in it 
'Tis high time sonicbody should awaken and in- 
forme hiin^ that he may, in his place, looke a 
little after it. I know noebody so able to doe it 
as y^*. 1 aee noe party or interest y" eonteud for 
but that of truth and y"* country. Such a man 
C&rrya authority and evidence in what be says, 
and those that will not take the pfiina to under- 
stand him thoroughly, cannot refuse to believe 
him, and therefor I hope the same reasons that 
first set y*^ on irorke will have force to make y" 
goe on. 

Y" mnke apologies in y" of the 17 Apr. for the 
freedom y^ tooke in shewing me a mistake in my 
booke, and take it as a kinde of obligation that I 
excuse iL But I tell y" I doe not excuse it: 
that were to suppose that it needed an excuse. 
Now, I assure y", I thank e y*' for it, and whether 
it were mine or thu printers slip» I take it for a 
great marke of y' good will and friendship to me, 
y* y"* advised me of it^ and 1 have piven order to 
have it mended. Will y'^ give me leave with the 
same candor to offer ivto places to y" to be alterd 
Jn the next edition of y"" booke ; the one is in the 
last page of y*^ dedieaLion to the king, where I 
thinke it is more for the advantage of y"" argument 
that y" should say all his domimoTui rather than 
Jud^a. For he and his father David had extended 
their conquests as far as the Great River, T.^. Eu- 
phrates, and the Scripture tells us that Solomon 
tuilt Tadmor, w**" was a great town in a pleasant 
and fruitfuU plain a great way in Arabia deserta. 
The other I guesse is a slip of the printer, and is 
of noe consequence to y' argum^ and that is Inier 
Hadejtt p. 5G,, w^^ I conceive should rather be In 
Hades or Hadtm^ w"*" signifies the state of the dead, 
and possibly y^ will think may be as well expressed 
by amotigat the shades^ or some such other English 
words* I take this liberty only to shew y" that I 
in earnest covet a familiar acquaintance withy", 
and am, without a complem^ 

Your most bumble servant, 

John Lockjb, 


For Mr. John Gary, Merchant, In BristoL 

Gary replied with a promise to call on Locke 
the drst time be came to London; but the acquaint- 
ance made no progress. Other letters of Gary's 
may be seen in Mr. Rix*8 excellent volume of the 
Diary of Edmund Bohun. Locke*s last letter 
•peaks for itself. The kindness, conscientiousness, 
and precision, which were such marked charac- 

tenstics of our eminent philosopher, are here 
written dbtinctly ; nor is there wanting that tinge 
of foriTirtlity which was equally conspicuous In the 
man himself. Joum Bruce, 


** Cett la biUiiygraphie qui foumit a Thiitmre liUhmr^ 
lent itSiaewt la ptui pn^Ui/jt^ ri qui fteut /a* donner une ej:acti- I 
iudr rigotireujc." — PiLTre-Clauile-Fran^oui Daithou, ISSl^l 

Ko one can travel far in the walks of Englisli ( 
history without discovering some new facts, or' 
rectifications of current statements; some par* 
ticulars which, if rejected as dUcoveries by the 
Brucos, the Colliers, the Dyces, the Sinj^ers, would i 
certainly be hailed as such by those who are ac- 
customed to confide in the ordinary sources of 
information ota the respective subjects. 

As an exempiificaiioo of this rem (irk I gliaU . 
give the result of an inquiry into the dramatic ' 
historv of Thomas Goflfe, M, A., student of Christ- ^ 
church, Oxford ; afterwards B.D. and rector of 
East Clandon, Surrey. Of the various reports of J 
his proceedings, I shall transcribe and comracat 1 
on two of the earliest and two of the latest : 

** Thomaj Goflf, the author of tho Couragcoua Tark^ 
Seiimut, Ore»{t'St trsgedics ; The carekis th&ipherdea 
n tragi ' cc m e*ly ^ and Cvpitfji whirligig, a comedy." - 
Edward Pn 101*8, ItJVS* 

** Ihtunaa GolT — He writ several pieces on several «ib- 
jects* amongst whicli arc reckoned five plays, vU- 7%« 
cttreies* iliepherdetf^ ICJ56, 4^ — The couroffeou* Turjk^ 
1«66, 8^— OrMfe*. 165tl, 8^— T/i* raging Turk^ 1656, 8», ' 
Selimua, 1638, 4**." — Gerard La2?obaihk, lfi91, 

** Thomas Goffl*— He wrote several tragedies ; brat theserl 
do no honour to hia memory, being fall of the most rjdl*| 
culous txjmbost j and one comedy, which b not without 
mariL-* — William GiFFOiiD, 1813. 

"Thomas Gotiffe,— He wrote five tracedie5» but none 
of thejii printed in hiJi life-time In the latter part of hit i 
life ho wrote some comedies, published in the j'ear in I 
which he died." — Owen Mannuto and WiUiAm Brat^ 

Thomaa GofTe wrote three tragedies while a 
student of Christ-church- We may consider] 
them as )iis coUejje exercises, and they were not I 
published in his life-time. The raging Tvrke wari 
dedicated to sir Richard Tich bourne by Richard f 
Meighen, one of the proprietors of the Becond ' 
folio Shiikspere, in 1631 ; The cmragiovs Tvrki ! 
WHS dedicated to sir Walter Tichbourne by the 
same person in 1632 ; antl The trogedif of Oreiieg ' 
was published by Mr* Meighen^ without any de- 
dientionf in 16^3- This was the utmost extent of 
his dramatic writings. 

Philips was an iugenioua critic, but a very care- 
less bibliographer* If he had examined The 
raging Tvrhe ne could have had no doubt aa to 
itj authorship. If he had examined the Selimus-j 
of 1594, he could not have ascribed it to Goffe^ 
who did not leave Westminster- school till 160 


{No. 271. 

If he had ezMuned Cvpid* whirligig as printed 
in 1607, 1611, or 1616* he must nave obiierved 
that it was addressed to vkiiMier Robert Hayman 
hg JS.SJ If he had examined The careUes efup- 
kerdes he must have seen that it was written for 
tiie theatre in Salisbury-court : now that theatre, 
as my friend Mr. Peter Cunningham has proved 
by documentary eyidence, was not even built in the 

I^an^baiiie dcaanras about the same •character 
at Philips. 'Of the five plays which he ascribes to 
Goffe, Iwo are mis-aacribed, and ho cites no one 
of the authoritative editions. Giflbrd condemns 
our author for making a raging Turk apeak in 
diaraolec, and praises him for what he never 
wrote. I spare Manning and Bray, as dramatic 
history was rather out of their line. 

I do not mean to insinuate that all the corrective 
fiicts now produced are diecoteriet, Langbaine 
Mserted that GotEs was not the author of Cepids 
wJUrijf^, and Mr. Isaac Reed proved that he 
could pot be the author of Seiimms; but all the 
authorities whom I have consulted ascribe to him 
The eardtts ik t p ker det — and all of them betray 
« deficiency of bibUographic research. 

I have now iusii&ed the epigraph prefixed to 
this nolo, whioi cannot be too often repeated. It 
was writton by its estimable author after a literary 
career of more than half a oentury. 

The discovery of errors suggealB tho qnery. 
How did they arise? And an ataeaapt to solve 
iueh a <|oery » for from useless curiosity. It 
IS lo consider the nature of e videnoe ; it 

li^ to sharpen the 4lf«r«luwfiicttlly; and to pre* 
aarre Ihooa who write ficoBi the conaunss of future 

How then «Kdihe onors «rw in this particular 
instance ? Here are n^ humble oaMcturas. 
FhHipa OMia Tkt nuriaMr IWhr. ^ow« aa that 
MEody ia aocxihod to Uoit an the draMatic oala- 


liguas wiueb won pruiiod in iwi, if(7i,ana i««o, 
it may either havo oeen omiite^l thrtH^th ov^miifht^ 
or beoausa it waa asmaaa d Os be th* oame piaM as 
The y as ruy saa s fW4f. 

He may Uvo nacribod Ahwu s jIoOoi^ oiihor 
OB tlM«alhori^ of the albfoaaid <«taiac«M^ «r of 
the edition of I6it« in whwh iha fMK^ is said lo 
beisrttf^ly 7.<7. Uia, howov«r« the «Ailion<rfr 

He may haxro aaoribad The aswIms il <yifci> wln 
to<«ofi^^o««h not pnbUshed till ilw^owdHwoii^t 
yaws oftor & death, otiwr on tho auihorit^r «€ 
llMntoMaid oataWuos, or booauat it b aaid «a W 
written b$ T, G. Al>. f/nrfs, 

fie may hnre Asoribad CMIi 4dMMr to 
CMe tbeoMMa at fiillowa, In the il^ rnrii <vMa« 
hgm^TktAmnUm^kemkerdmi and 4» MM^t bovo 
wen ody Oe edition of ICao, in whUh the fkiH^ 
cation hy £. & is oaaittad. 

A£ber fo many ooi^ootttNai I nuul rslWNt l» 

facts. Langbaine says Grofie ** was buried at his 
own nanbh-ohuroh at Clandon, the 27th of July, 
1627. This b an enor. * By the kind permission 
of the nev. Edward John Ward, M. A., the rector, 
I copied, some time rinoe, the silbjoined entry 
fsam ;the original rogiater : 

** 1629 Jaty 27« SepaHns Thomas GoffB SS Theolog. 
Baccalaoreiii et £cel«si» hi^os Parseh Bector:" 



Those who hold that, literally, ** there is nothing 
new under the sun,^ will see more than a fancifiu 
parallel between a well-known passage in the 
Oefyssfy, and the following incident in the late 
wreck of the mail steamer *^ Forerunner.*" Cap- 
tain Kenne^, one of the passengers in that ship, 
thus modestfy related to the Court of Inquiry an 
heroic act of lus own, whidi is well worthy of 
record : 

^'RaBiemberiiig that tbtra was a tick gmtlemmiu a 
mtrchant captain, Mr. Qrogorr, who was below. I went 
to InfbnQ him of oar daager. *Tltb g«itleman had pro- 
vionaly infonned me that if ear acodent ever occurred 
he weield certainlrbe drowned* as he oould not swim. I 
raawaubwed thia at the moment, and as 1 had a ffwxmminff- 
hah ia mr cabin, I inmediataly nahed down to mr caUo 
for the pupoas of getting iC I gave it to Mr.Grmry. 
1 inlAted it for hUa, and put it maud him. for he did not 
aaderstaad how to use iL I thea left Mr.GregofT b> 
''ftc — 7V7iMa.Ndv.21, 18^ 

In the fifth book of the OM^sary we read the 
boaislalul passage, whidh Imruu the anl^ect of one 
of FlMisaan*a giweaM Maatrationa, nf ^e sea- 
nymph I^uoaahoo bringing Oo Olyases. aempest* 
aaat UKW his inft, a naagtc sane^ whi<dh, btmnd 
MNMMd bis bioaatonaMos ham to swim ta land. 
I will not nrouble nu ias aa i ftd readers with the 
Qiwik ; CowpoiAi arawslalMn is, — 

; ef«iTlSaref Aeashdis- 

'''I^lhe«h«a: thhtilbhanil 
CdUnial taxtnia: 

tV OrM^L woTii is a»4loi»eit> oor t o os lT rendeT>^ 
in Kniriish 000*^ fipik fihbasi'i ^bnure. 

WiJUnl foin^ a^ to as to belief^ that all now 
an* and int^MiUKHMt aw» but Km* o«w» newrcd, I 
think ii n%4 i«a|^%bable that the awiaMHlin|^M^. 
in^alad wish auv ms^ bat^ bsen hin^wn in ant^ 
U«HlM^rlV' liaMOi and the tx^liiMO of it thus pr^ 



Jau. 6, 1855,] 



It is licit, perb»pi, generally known th»t a So- 
ciety of Antfqairrae existed in the seventeentli 

The foH owing mitiute of its first ** chapter," at 
wbicli ila rules and bye-laws were iiisiUiited, will 
iiat» I hope, be unacccptjible to yr»ur rejider^. It 
IB, throughout, in the hftndwrning of Sir Edward 
Derio^, ext-ept the siflfnutures, which are auU)* 
grajih. There ore verbul corrections in it, made 
evidently on the suggestion of the ranincot, and 
Sir Edward's «igiia£are is the first npneaded. 
The style and language «re decidedly his ; and 
I til ink we may, witi a fair presumption of truth, 
assign to 111 in the honour of origjinatinjj this So- 
ciety, That it enjoyed but a brief existence is 
easily accounted for by the pjirliamenUry trou- 
bles whiith arose almost within two years of its 
birth^ and m which more than one of ltd mem hers 
bore part. 

Tbi convent i<mnl marks by which the MSS^ 
&c« of the members were to be dijitineriiiiihed, ii a 
fact of no smatl imporUnee to collectors in this 
day. I haire fircqntfrtJy met with one or otb^ of 
these marks on MSS.» imd^ till the discovery of 
this document, have always been at a loss to ac- 
count for them. I hope, therefore, by the publi- 
cation of this ioreresting wmv^ in ^^&. & Q./* to 
furnish collectors with a wtitfactory meai^f of 
identifying many of their MSS. L, B. L. 


^ idei 

^1 Att a chapter held y* first of May, A"" D^ 
^H 163S, by the [Scbolters] Students of Anti- 

^^^ qutty whose names itre utulerwritren^ itt was 

^^^^H agreed, and couLdiided upon, to hold, ketone, 
^^^^^ «id with best t^edite to preserve these articles 
^^^^^^ following, viz, : 

^H 1* Imprimis. That every one do helpe and fur* 
^ ther cnch others stndyes and endeavours, hy im- 
parling and commtinicfltinrr (as time and other 
circumstances may perm itt) all such bookeSt 
note;?, deedc!?, rolles, &c, as he hath, for y*" expe- 
diting whereof^ aiid that each may knowe what to 
bor«we of other, for hia h«at use and hohoofe, itt 
18 first conclttded and promt sed« eaohe to send 
otker a pfect inventory and catoloj^ue of all such 
tiott% bookes, collections, &c. aa they now have. 

2° Item, That no i|*oti of this society do she we 
or otherwise make knowen thi*, or any y" like 
faiure agreenent, nor citU in« nor promise to c&U 
m any oiber person to this society, w*botit a par- 
tidilar coasent fir«t had of all this present society. 

J* This it would appenr followed, although, perh&pa, [ 

in raiisequaooe «f the fnilarD of Bolton^s ichemti for | 
"an Academ Royal;" of which acheiaa Mr, Hunter luu 

given «u inittreitia? an acc^iuoL (See Archttoinaia^ I 

jnL Jtxxil pp. 18»— liSL) ^ E0. *^li. & Q."] 1 

3" Item. That every one clo severally gather all 
obaerrable collections which he cnn, oonceming 
y* foundations of any religious house, or oastle, 
or pubLtcke worke, and all mcTnorable notes for 
hifitoricaU illustration of this kingdoms : or y* 
geneolot^icall honour of sfuy family therein, espe- 
cially concerning y* countyes of Kent, Hunting- 
don, Norlliampion, and W^arwick ; and y* same 
to communicate unto such of this society who is 
most interesseil therein. 

4" Item. That every one doe carefully and 
fay Lhfully observe and recorde all personn which 
hnue bi?ene dtgiiifyed with y* title of knighthowl, 
with a breife (»f y* time, place^ county, &c. ; y* 
same to be disposed into such metKoile as att y' 
next consultation shall be aoreetj upon, 

5" Item. That every one *lo endeavour to bor* 
rowe of other strangers, with whom he hath interest, 
all such bookes, ncgies, rrdles, deeded, ^c. at be 
can obteyne, as well for any of his parteners as 
for himself. 

6* Item. Whereas, itt is en tended, with care, 
cost, and industry, to pfect up certeine select, 
chojse, and compleate treatisics of armory and 
antiquityes, which cannot well be done without 
some preceding, rough, unpfilished, and fowie 
originnll coppyes : Itt is now agreed, concluded, 
and mutually promised, thnt y* s* principal] bookes 
so compleater], shall not, upon forfeile of credlte, 
be lent out from among this 8(»ciety to any other 
persQfn whatsoever. 

T" Item. That y* afores* rough e coppyes be not 
imparted to any stranger, without y* giill consent 
of this society. 

S* Item. That care be pro%'idently had, not to 
lend, muih lesse to pnrte with, any other peece, 
treatise, booke, roll, deed, kct. unto any stranger; 
but to such psons, from whom some reasonable 
exchange probably be had or borrowed. 

9'' Item. That euery of the rest do send unto 
S*^ Christopher Hatton,, a Jlfcct [note] transcript 
of all such heires femall of note as he can find — 
with y* probates of euery of them — to be method- 
ized by him. 

10* Item. For y' better expediting of theie 
St u dyes, by dividing y* greate burden which 
through such infinite variety of particulars would 
arise, to the discouragement and oppressing of 
any one mans industrv, itt ia concliided and 
agreed to part and divide these labours as fol* 
loweth, viz. That S^ Cbriiitopher llation shall 
take care to collect fliid register all old rolles of 
arroes, and old parchment boofcei of armes, b*fing 
of e quail vaiew, antiquity, and forme with y* 

1 1* Item. For y*^ same reasons, that S' Thomas 
Shirlev shall collect together and enter {att large 
or in lireife, according to such coppyes as can be 
had), all palenles ana coppyes of new grantes or 
confirmacons of armes or creastea. 



12*» Item. For y' same reasons, that S"^ Edward 
Bering do gftthcr and compose a full compleAte 
booke of artnes by way of ordinary. 

IS^ ru>m. Fory* same reasons, ibat M^ Duordall 
do collect and coppy all armoriall sealea with a 
breuiate of y* deedes, and j* true dimensions of 
y* sealea. 

14° Item. For y« same reasons, that S^ Edward 
Bering do sometime this somr beginne a new 
system or body of armory, with such brevity, 
psplcuity, and proper examples* as may best be 
chosen ; to wkicn purpose y" other associates haue 
promised to send unto him such helpe, by way of 
originalls or coppyes of all extraordinary formes 
of sheildesi charires, supporters, augmentations, 
diminutions, diiTi^rences, &c. as they can furnish 
forth; the same to be reveiwed att y* next 

IS'* Item, For y* same reason s» that S' Thomas 
Sliirley do gather y* names and armes of all (or 
as many as can be bad) mayors, sherifltis, and 
aldermen of London and Yorke, and of all other 
cittyea and townes throughout all ages. 

16*' Item, For y" same reasons, that S'',Chris- 
topher Hatton do collect together all y* names and 
armes of knighles» to which purpose, all y* rest of 
y* society are to send unto him such supply as 
they haue, except itt be for y" knighted of King 
James and King CharlcSj which are by y* paynes 
of Mr. Anthony Dering allready putt into good 
order, for which S' Edward Dering undertaketh. 

17° Item. Whereas many usefull and pleasur- 
able notes are passed and comunicated betweene 
y* fores'^ [schollers] students of antiquity. Now 
to y* intent that conttnuall recourse may euer (as 
occasion shall arise) be had to y^ study, bookes, and 
collections of him that shall so send or impart y* 
aame, for y* iustifymg of any transcript so received* 
and for y* more quicke finding and reveiwe of y" 
same. Itt is further concluded and agreed^ that 
every one shall forthwith fay rely marke every 
aeverall booke, rolt» treatise, deede, &c., in his 
library : First, with one gull note or marke of 
appropriation, whereby att first veiwe to know y* 
owner thereof: and then with such other addi- 
tionall marke as shall be thought fitt^ that is to 

S^ Edward Bering to marke all such as belong 
Tinto him in this forme [on a shield, a sail ire]. 
S*^ Christopher Hatton [a garb]. S' Thomas 
Shirley [on a shield paly, a canton ermine]. And 
M' Bugdiall thus [a cross moUne]. And for petty 
small marks^ these, in order as above, X — H — 
S— D. 

18° Item. iWhcn any |ison receiueth any tran- 
script or note from unother of this society, which 
he is to keepe as his owne, and thereof to make 
use, he shall iinediately marke y* same note, and 
aM future tmoscrlpts liereof, with y* chcife cha- 

racter or TOArke of y' sender as aboue, — and y" 
sender of euery note shall take care that all notes 
by him sent^ shall be written (as neare as may be) 
in y* same paper for size of bignease as he shall 
first use, whether y" note sent do fill y* whole 
sheete, or but a line therein, 

19'' Item. Least that too much care of sending 
one to another may hegett some mistake in lend- 
ing one thing twice, itt is resolved and agreed that 
he who sendeth or lendeth any booke, note, or 
roll, &c., to any other of this society, shall ntt y' 
sending or returne of the same, marke the same 
with y* principall character or marks of the person 
to whom he shall so lend itt, -- and^ if itt be 
coppy ed out of any of his bookes, then to sett a 
little marke of y* same forme in y* margent of j" 
e^ booke* 

20'* Lastly. To preuent y*" hazard of loosing' 
time, by y* trouble of seuerall mens takim?" 
coppyes of one and y* same thing : itt is concluded 
and agreed that wbosoeuer peruse any booke, 
treatise, or deed, &(♦.» and do transcribe y' same, 
he shall, att y^ very last line, if itt be booke or 
treatise, &c. — or on y* dorse or y" labell, if itt be 
a deede, sett one of these two markes D or c^, — 
that is to say, if y* coppy be taken verbatim^ then 
y* capitall letter D, but if breviated, then (L 

EnwABD Dbbitto, Chkistopher IlATrow,, 
Thomas Shirley, Wm, DcQDALt. 


Sir Edwftfd Dering was the first baronet of his honffe j 
his mark, the saltire, was bis ooat armc^ur, qf ratker the 
coat of Morinl adopted by him. 

Sir Christopher Hattoa was probmbly tb« first Lord 
IlatlOD, HO created 16-13, aod great -great -grandson of 
J oh a Hatton, brother of the I^rd Keeper, temp. Elix, 
The garbt his mark, was fmmhia coat of anniSL 

Sir Thomas Shirley. HLa mark ii the coat of Shirley 
Paley, a tatiton ermine. 

Dugdale, the Dugdalfl, his mark iras finom hU coat of 
arms, a cross moliiie. 




The Rev. Alexander Pcpe^ Caithnesi, — In the 
Life of Pope I have mentioned a namesake and 
acquaint^ince of the poet who was minister of the 
pansh of Keay, in Caithness. A snuff-box is in 
existence which Pope is said to have presented tt> 
his clerical friend in the north. It is a handsome 
flilt box with an allegorical scene in relief on the 
lid. This interesting relic U believed to have been 
sent to the Rev. A. Pope by the poet, accom- 
panied by a note» in which he claimed a distant 
relationship to the minister. The box is in the 
possession of the grandson (by the mother's side) 
of the Rev, W, Pope, namely* James Campbell, 
Esq., Assistant Commissary -GeneraU Edinburgh- 
The poet s autograph has been lost (to Mr. Camp- 
beirs great regret), but an elder brother of thii 

Jan. 6. 1855.] 



gentleman distinctly recollected to have often seen 
and reiid it during liis grandfather^a life. May 
not tbe family of the poet have been originally 
from the north of Scotland, where a number of 
FopeSi clergymen, resided in the sixteenth and 
seventeenth ^centuriea ? The grandfather of Pope 
b 8aul to have been a clerj^yman in Hampshire, 
but no trace of him can be {band m the registers 
of incumbenta. The above particulars I owe to 
the courtesy of my friend, Mr. Robert Chambers, 
and trust the subject will be taken up by some of 
the abte corre»pondent5 of " N, & Q.j'* who enjoy 
facilities for prosecuting literary and antiquarian 
researches. E. Caeeutmees. 


Jam^s Moore Sm^th. — To the Query of S. J. M. 
In Vol Xm p. 459, of "' N, & Q.," it may be an- 
swered that the fact of James Moore Smyth, the 
object of Pope'3 hatred and .satire, being the eon of 
Arthur Moore, M. F.» the dlstinguij^hed Commis- 
sioner for Trades and Plantations, &c., seems esta- 
blished by the GmtlemaTis Magazine^ and hy Man- 
ning and Bray*3 HUtory of Surrey. The former 
■nnouncea his death (October 18, 1734) as "eon 
of the late Arthur Moore, of Fetcham, Esq.," &c. 
The local history describes the estate of Fetchain 
at having been purchased by Arthur Moore> Esq. ^ 
End an account h given of Arthur Moore and 
his family, including his third son Jamea, who, 
according to the Gentlemaits Magazine^ took the 
jiame of Smyth " to enjoy an estate left him by 
Mr. Smyth oif Gloucester Street" H* B, 

Satirical Prini of Pope (Vol x., p. 458.)* — 
Griffin wilt find all he inquires after in A Pop 
upon Pope ; or more readily perhaps by turning 
to Carruthers' Life of Pope, p, 200. S. P, P. 



In the midst of the din of war, and the horrors 
that are its inevitable attendants, it can scarcely 
be demanfled that much, if any, attention can be 
given to the exploration of antiquities, or to the 
research after lost manuscripts — the boast and 
glory of ancient letters. StUl, even when sur- 
rounded by circumstances so unfavourable, enthu- 
liastic echolara and antiquaries have been found, 
in camps and battle-fields, profiting by the events 
which led them into foreign countries, and seeking 
to enrich their native land and the world at large 
with spoils dearer than all the material conquests 
of the victor. Would not, therefore, the present 
campaign in the Crimea, and the friendly relations 
subsisting between England and Turkey, seem to 
present the long-desir^ opportunity for English- 

men to obtain access to places that have long beea 
shut up from them, and that are likely to contain 
manuscripts and other spoils inherited bj the coH'" 
querors of the Byzantine empire ? The present I 
Sultan of Turkey is not a man likely to refuse a I 
request of this nature addressed to him on the part I 
of the British government A firman might be I 
issued to all pachas and governors of cities and] 
provinces requiring them to grant every facility I 
to properly authorised individuals of the British I 
nation for exploring and examining all old build- 1 
ings and institutions likely to afford scope for re- J 
search and discovery. In tlds way, the evils of] 
war may be made eventually productive of good ] 
to mankind^ by the bringing to light again of some | 
of the long lost treasures of Greece or Borne ; or, 
more precious still, of some works of Christian 
antiquity. The present Prime Minister, Lord 
Aberdeen, early distinjjuished himself as an en- 
lightened cultivator of the fine arts, and more 
particularly of Grecian art. His countenance 
would no doubt be given to measures calculated 
to save from destruction before it is too late any 
remains of antiquity in the claaaic lands of the 
East* Antk^uart. 

rOX.£ LOEE. 

Death'hed Stiperstitian. — Whilst residing at 
the village of Charlcorabe, near Bath, in the year 
1852, a village well known to the ecclesioloffists 
for its diminutive thurch, said to be the smauflest 
in England, a curious circumstance came to my 
knowledge. The parish clerk made application to 
the clergyman for the loan of the paten belonging 
to the church. Being asked for what purpose, he 
said he wanted it to put salt on, and to place it on 
the breast of a dying person to make him ** die 

Is not this a trace of some old use of " blessed 
salt ** in the mediteval Church ? W, N. T. 

CaiuB College, Cambridge. 

*Mj big as a parson's harn^^ is a Dorsetshire 
measure of magnitude, which happily begins to 
savour of antiquity, and ought, I think, to be re- 
corded, a W. B. 

Charm for a WarL — Some fifty years ago, a 
near relation of mine, then a little girl, was much 
troubled with warts, of which she had thirty-two 
on one hand, and two on the other. Accidentally 
hearing one day from a visitor, of an acquaintance 
who had been cured by cutting a nick or notch in 
an elder stick for each wart, touching the wart 
with the notch, and burying the stick wiihoui 
tcllifig any one of it, she tried the plan, and 
utterly forgot the circumstance till some weeks 
after, when an intimate friend of the family asked 
her how the warts were going on. On looking 



and H 

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iked ■ 

gat ■ 



[No. 27t 

her band tbe thirty-two were gtine, but tbe other 
two, which had not heen chnrmed, were still there. 
She subdeijuently tried to get rid of these two in 
the aame maiiner ; but the chnrin would seem to 
ii&Te been broken by her tell lag of it, and they 
remained where they were, 

Aa this circumstance happened in the family of 
a highly respectable Londi>u tradesman, at hia 
country-house in one of the. neighbouring villagesj 
it aeeni3 to indicate that fifty years ago charms 
were in use in a class of society in which we should 
aot now expect to find them. 

The Devonshire charm for a wart is to steal a 
piece of meat from a butcber's shop, rub it over 
the wart in secret, and throw it over a wall over 
your left should cr. N, J. A. 

Rhjme$ an Winter Tempett -^ 
L " Winter's thunder. 

Poor man** litiAthr rich man^a hongtr,** 
2. « Winter's t ha itder. 
Samtner's wonder/' 
What others exist? R, C. Wakde. 

A mitMed Peal on Itinocents* Day. — On Inno- 
cents' Day, hcarinjj the bella of RIaisemore 
Church, in this neighbourhood, ringing a mu filed 
peal, I inquired the reason, and was told by a 
parishioner that they alwajs rinnr a mullli^d peal 
tcre on Innocenta^ Day. la this p€culiar to 
Maisemore ? C. Y, C, 



TEARS antes. 

Sir James ^fackmtosh, in his autobiographical 
sketch published by his son, has aflTectionately re- 
corded his early ed near ion at For (rose, where a 
popular acatlemy then lh>uri>hed. The following 
copy of one of his school^ bills, which lately fell 
into my hands, is curious : 

** Capi, Anpts Maekintiah^ of^lltt^ for kh ntpheWj 
Jtmm Mackmteak, Dr. 

1775, Jiilr 15- To school fees from this to 

July l^, 1777, at flj. per qr. 
1776-7. To cock's fight dues for 2 yiiars, 2*.6</. 

each _ - _ _ , 

To cath for a Mair's Introductkui, 2i, Qd. ; 

To ditto for 3 moaths' fees at the dandiig 
school, minuet, country -dan oes» and horn- 
pipo, &c. - - - - - 

To ditto fbr practidrigi at ditto 

To ditto at A publk [ball] lor hloMlf and 
tHn-tnar ..... 

To ditto at ^oing to Connage and Inverness 

- 2 Q 

- 3 G 

J to visit his »Utions] for 2 y^ara 
y 15. For answ«»ring the school fees, and 
other Acdtiental dem^Mk, flir tb« jottr ooa* 
mencuig t/t this data 


X5 2 0" 


It is impossible to forbear a smile at the 
ciation of tbe cock-fighls and miivueta with the 
future amiable and somewhat ponderous philo- 
sopher I The scholar's bowrd with a decent 
householder in Fortrose at this time was twelve 
poimda per annum. Here is one of the receipts : ^ 

** FortroM, 80th Ua\\ 1780. ■ 

" Kecd. of Bt, rBallk] John Miflntoahi oa account of ^ 
board wages for Ja. Mcintosh, eon to C«pt. John Mack* 
intosh, Of th« 73rd regiment, from Nov. ISth, 1775), u> 
May 15th, 1780, day and date as above, the sum of 6^ 
St. Pr. Alex-^BIan.*' 

In the autumn of 1780 Jaraes Mackintosh left 
the academy at Fortrose, and proceeded to Ab^- 
deen College, the sum of twenty shillings being 

faid for bis proportion of the chaise hire from 
nverneas to Aberdeen. At college his expenses 
were, of course, greatly increased, and some of bis 
relatives hinted at ** prodigality," a charge which 
he strenuously denied. The following afforda 
some data for forming a conclusion on this point: 

" iVote ofEjTBmtn laid omt oh Jamie MackintoiK, from 
aOlA Jl%, 1780. 

£ 8. d. 
Cash at different times fifom that date to 

5tti Jialv, 1731 - - * . 84 3 O 

Cash from aiat October, 1781, to 16th April, 

17B2 - . * . - 29 14 

Caah from 10th Jane, 1782, to June^ 1783 - 87 1 
Ca«h for dothea and otticr eidTrancei, from 

15th Septftmbflf, 1780, to Jaly, 1782 - 26 

Cash for clothes and otfieradrniicesfor Jamea 

from Jaly. 1782, to October, 1783 - - 27 10 

Xloi 8 0" 
Many of the students at Aberdeen College liyed, 
and many still live, at less cost; but Jomea 
Mackintosh was of the higher class of the youth 
attending the university. He was the son of an 
officer in the army, the heir to a small Hiffbland 
estate (then valued at about \GOl. per annum, and 
which he afterwards sold), and he was of social 
tastes and habits, as well as a great reader and 
collector . His future citrcer b well kuown^^^^ — & 
career honourable alike to his great talents, his 
genuine benevolence, and simple diirnity of cha- 
racter. R. CABaUTilEB^* 

A Htuisian and an EngUsh Eegim^it — The 
courage of an army is the sum total of 
the courage which the individual soldiers bring 
with them to it, rather than of that which they 
derive from it. When I was at Naples, a Rusaian 
and an English regiment were drawn tip together 
in the same snuare: — ** See,** said a Neapolitao 
to me, who bad mistaken me for one of his coun- 
trymen, ** there is but one face in that whole 
regiment ; while in that (pointing to the English), 
every sotdier has a face of his own*" 

Colbiidob's Fbiewd (J* M* O.) 


Jan. 6. 1855.] 


Epitaph on Richard Adlam. — In the romftatic 
villajie cliurch of King:3 Tel;jpton, Devon, there ia 
ft t4>iiib to the memory of Richftrd AdlaiD| whose 
epitaph* heaides beiiig a sini^^uiar sp€cini<*n of the 
atyh of tbc period, is so remarkrtble for the coinei- 
dcnce of ihe first line with Dr. Young a celebrated 
apostrophe U> Death (Hight Third) — 

♦« InRfLtiate ttrtber ! could not one mifficef "— 
thai we might almost think he must have seeo and 
hitd it in hu mind when he wrote it* It i& as M^ 

*• HichArtltu Adlam bnjns eoclesijc Vicariui, obit Feb. 10, 
1670, Apostroplie od Mortem : 

**J)amit,*d ignmil ottn't pinfinitr blood ittffio^ 
Must prj«ics that oINr be the lacriicft I 
Qot^V the fj^eaii that in Matk* ly«i 
TliT triumph » o'er thUracTiid Qihafy, 
Ti(( wme juAt Nemetut vremg^ our mum 
And ftooe Uiis kiil-priett to revere good lawi ! ** 


Earthenware Vessels fmmd at St. Mar^f's Col* 
UgusU Chfireh, Tau^hal, Ireland. — In the pro- 
gresa of the reatoratiim of the ehoir of this church 
luring' the nmijmii of this year, 1854, vases similar 
to those found at Foantaina Abbe^ (yol* x.> 
p. 386.), and at St Peters Mancroft, Norwich 
(VoL X., p, ^^% were diacovered. Thej^ are ten 
in number, laid on their Blde», the orifices Dot 
reaching to the rarftice of the walls in which they 
are imbedded, but communicating with the out- 
»itJe through circular perfbraiiunrf in a piece of 
litneatone kid op to each. Five of these vases 
are in the north wall, and five directly opposite in 
ihe floutb, bigb up ttbove the arches of the windows 
contiguous tt) the nave. They are all of brown 
earthenwnreT glazed within, but differ in shapes 
and diuiensions. Some have narrow moutba, 
whence they gradually expand to the baae. Some 
swell outi, like Roman amphoree, and like them are 
symmetrically tapered to the bottom. Some have , 
wide mouths, narrow necks, and broad bases to , 
atund on. Measurements of ihe largest four were 
m follows respectively, viz. 15 J inches X 11*; 
15 X I i ; 11 X 7 ; 9^ X 9 J. May they not have i 
been intended for acoustic purposes, according to , 
Priestley's experiments f Samubl. Hatma^i Clk. 

Sonth Abbey, YoogbAl. I 

Schedons and Poussin. — Great praise has been i 
itowed on Poussin for the pathetic episode in- 
duced into one of his pastoral paintingB; in 
whii.'h, amid the fleeting pleasurea of the shep- 
herd's life, a stonct the memorial of some de* 
parted shepberi)^ is seen bearing the welUknown 
mscription^ ** Et ego in ArcadiA fui/' It ia ques- 
tionable whether Poossin did not borrow thii 
idea. In the Sciarra P;ilace at Rome, there is a 
pietiire of Sohedone, iir which shepherds are in* 

troduced oontemplattng a skull. On a sUfOt 
below appear the words ** Et in Arcadii ego.*' 1 

rrehend that Schedone*s painting was produced 
first, and that the pathetic and justly admired J 
idea was originally his. Poussin, during his l<nw^| 
residence at Rome, would be familiar with Solr^'^l 
do&e'a painting. W. Ewawr* 

A Family of Six Children at a Birth. — The 
Dayton Gazette^ nublished in Ohio, states on the 
authority of ** a lacjy of character, who saw and 
counted the children, and bad the motber*s word 
that they were all hers ai a single birlb," that a 
German woman lately passed through Daytott 
with six children bom at a birth. The womatt 
was on her way to see her husband, who was sidk 
at another place where he was at work. The 
children were carried in a basket, and were all of 
a mzQ escept the youngest, which was smaller 
than the others. 

It Is said that Ambrose Pare, the French phy- 
siciaii, gives an account of a^ siindlar family. 




China, Conquest of. — In (he year 1758, Loid 
Clive, then Governor-General of India, proposed 
to conquer China, if parliament would supply him 
with a force of fifteen titoutand men* I have no 
doubt so great a man knew well that he was able, 
humanly speaking, to accomnlish what he pro- 
posed; and if his proposal had been accepted, 
what a mass of misery might have been prevented, 
by China and India being united under one great 
Christian government f The fanatical spirit of the 
present rebels against the Imperial government 
would now be turned, with fatal effect, against any 
foreign interference of a bostik* nature ; and 
nothing now remains for England, in her inter* 
course with China, but the most cautioua, pacific, 
and prudent policy* A, 


adhtsoih s ijettebs. 

I am engaged in an edition of AddiiOH*8 Works,, 
which I at first intended should be a mere reprint 
of Bishop Hurd*rf, and form four volumes of my 
British ClasMic4f ; but I have found occaaion to 
alter my plan. Some autograph-collecting friends 
having placed at my disposal several unpublished 
letters of Adtiison, and called my attention U) ihe 
existence of many others in both private and pub-* 
lie coUecLions, I commenced a diligent, and I am 
happy to say successftjl search. I have, in conse- 
quence, discovered more than fifty letters quite 
unknown to the literary world ; all of which, to- 
with w oonsiderable number which have 

appeared in ?arioiis printed collectioD3, will come 
in a fifth volume of my edition. 

My object in addressing you is, to query 
whether any of your readers can and will help to 
increase my store, either by sale, loan, or tran- 
script, or by promotive indi wit Ions ? To such, a 
debt of gratitude will be due from the public, and 

Us^Ef G. BoiiN. 




In the Gent, Mag, for July, 1798, will be found 
an account of a very remarkable man, \Ym. Jen- 
nens or Jennings of Acton Place, in the county of 
SuSblk, and ot Grosvenor Square, London, wbo^ 
died on the 19tb of June preceding, at tbe a^e ol" 
ninety-seven* He is there stated to have been 
the richest subject of the crown, and having died 
intestate and without issue, that his almost In- 
calculable wealth would merge into three indi- 
viduabj previously possessing immense fortunes. 
An opinion afterwards very generally prevailed 
that his heirs could not be traced, and that the 
crown hud interfered to protect the property for 
whomsoever should establish the claim ; and it is 
believed that litigation took place on tfie subject 
even to a comparatively recent period. It waa 
rumoured that a claimant bad taken possession 
of Acton Place, and the notice of it in Sboberrs 
Beauties qf Englajid and Wnles^ published in 1813, 
Tol. xiv., tit. Suffolk, would seem to sustain that 
statement : 

** On his dcceas*? the fine tnpcatry wm torn from the 
wftlb, ami sold with the furniture and other movahles. 
This noble manaion having since that time been uahabited 
only by an old man and woman, now presents a deplorahle 
spictade of dilapidation, and the approach cannot be 
traced but by the coloiir ami height of the erass which 
hos grown over the ^veL The interior suU exhibits 
soma vesttgesi of its former splendour. Th« garden has 
(ax^d even worso than the building, for it has been 
ploiished up, and haa been now cultivated as a fleldj*^ — 
P. 159. 

Some myatery unquestionably hangs over this 
iin^lar individual^ and the vast property which 
he left behind him undisposed of, and which it la 
believed has never yet been the subject of final 
adjudication or distribution* In ** N.& Q./* Vol. 
iv., p. 424., date Kov. 29, 1851, an inquiry appears, 
whether the late Mr. Jenings of Acton Hall, 
Suffolk, was descended from a Yorkshire branch 
of the family, and where information asi to pedigree 
could b-e obtained. In two subsequent Volumes, 
namely. Vol. vi., under October, 1852, and VoL vii. 
for 1853, Queries also occur respecting the Jen- 
nings family; but I have not been able to trace any 
very accurate details respecting the rich Mr, Je- 

As the subject is to some est tent one of histodcal 
Interest, perhaps some of your niunerous corre- 

spondents may be able to afford some information 
as to his pedigree and connexions, and also :is to 
the diaposition of his money and ej^tates, in whom 
they vested, and whether any portion yet remains 
for distribution. \V, B» 

[It appears that Williara Jennens waa a descendant of 
the fjimify of Jennens of Gopsal Hall, co. Leicester ^ who«e 
pedigree, and some account of the family, is given in 
KichoU'a ieicci/CT-sAirci vol iv. p. 859. In'Acton Church, 
Suffolk, i& a monument with the following inscription : 
**Toth0 racmonr of Robert Jennena of Acton Place, in 
the county of Suffolk, Esq., fourth son of Humphrev 
Jenneraa, of Warwickshire, Esq,, who died Ihft 25th of 
February, 1725-6, in the fifty- fourth year of his age, 
leaving one only 3on, William" jenn ens, by Anne hia wife, 
only daughter and heir of Carew GtiidotC of Hampshire, 
Esq. He puTchaded the estate, and began the house, 
Thia monument waa erected by his wife, who also built 
this cfaaneL She died the 1*4 th of December, 170 1, 
aged eighty-five, and is depositc?d in the family vault, 
under the chancel adjoining to thia chapel, with the ro- 
malna of her aaid husband. The abovt^-nnmed William 
Jenncns died the ISth of June, 17»8, in the ninety-eighth 
yeiLr of fiia age: is buried in the same vault with his 
father and mother, and his memory thua perpetuated by 
hia partictilar direction/* From a statement in the Geni, 
Mtiff. for March, 1803, p. 287., it appears that a consider- 
able part of the personal property of Mary, dowager Vis- 
countess jiVndovcr, came to her aa one of the heirfl-at-law 
of William Jennena, whose death is noticed in the aamo 
work, vol. Ixviii. pp. 627. 755. 8ea also the Gent Magi 
for July 1842, p.M., and Aupmt 1852, p. 114., for an 
account of a f&laely rumoured settlement of this long 
litigated ca.*ie. The noble stniclurc of Aetcn Hall, toa- 
tainjng fifly-fnur apartment-'i, was demolished in 1825 by 
order of Earl Howe, heir-at-law of the late pariMiimoniotta 
proprietor 1 see the advertisements tor its sale in the 
Iptwidi Joumait March 5, 1825^ and April 30, 1826.] 


**OLTlMO,*' "lUflTAIIT,** AT«D " PBOXIMO.*' 

I should be glad to receive a critical notice of 
the common phrases ultimo^ itisiajit^ and projimo. 
From what source have these terms flowed inta 
our language, and why h it that they refer to 
months only and not to days? The received 
meaning aeema to be as follows. If I, writing on 
the 2Dth of November, speak of the 1 0th ultimo, 
it means decimo die^ uliimo mense, or the 10th of 
October* If 1 speak of the 10th instant, it means 
decimo diet in,»tait/i meme^ or the 10th of Novem- 
ber. If of the lOtb proximo, it means by a similar 
construction the 10th December. Now as I can- 
not find in books of reference, snch as dictionaries, 
any explanation except that subjoined of these 
phrases, it is very easy to fall into error concern- 
m;; them, especially as Dr, Johnson, our great 
authority in questions of philology, attributes in 
his dictionary a substantive meaning to the word 
instant, used in this sense, which he says is used 
" in low and commercial lan^a^^e for a dag of the 
present or current month." This definition seems 
to be incorrect and imperfect when we analyse the 

Lhe M 


Jan. 6. 1855.] 



plirase, because I have sbowti that " instant*' hath 
An adjecHtie aigtufication referring to the month 
itself, and not to the clay* I am not a-shamed to 
confess that until very lately I attributed a wrong 
meaning to the^e three words, conceiving that 
each and all of them applied to the day iteelf 
whose date stands prefixed, in which case the 
10th uMmo would mean the lOth of Novemher, 
and the lOLh instant would mean the 10th of De- 
cember — decimo die instantit or the tenth day next 
at hand. It appears, however, that this con- 
struction ia undoubtedly erroneous, and upon 
consideration it is evident that where days are 
numbered, they are numbered solely with refer- 
ence to the months in which they occur. Still, in 
the use of common terms the mind is seldom ap- 
plied critically to the consideration of their mean- 
ing, and therefore it might be desirable that all 
these wonlfl, although two of them be not actually 
English, should find a plaee in our English dic- 
tionaries and hooka of referencCj since perhaps not 
one person out of a hundred may take the trouble 
to inform himself of the accurate meaning of 
words which he ia in the daily habit of writing. 

A BoEnisBEfi. 


Carmnsqf York. — There is, in Nichols's Literary 
Anecdotes^ an account of Mason the poet in a note 
in the second voU p.24L, which ends thus : 

"Tlie appointment of the four eauon reaidentiariej of 
Tork cathudral ia in the gift of the dean, who ia obliged, 
by statute, to give thi!v;icant cxmonrv to the first man he 
teea, after the vacancy, capable of taking tt Mr. Marie- 
bam was bis tiriit sight on tlie death of Mr. Mason." 

I should be gfad to know tf this statement is 
correct ; and if bo, what h the date of the statute 
which thus com|>eIs the dean so to dispose of the 
canonry ? C. be D» 

** L*(Eil de Bceuf.'* — Are the French memoira 
pulilished under thia title an authentic work? 
What is known of the author or authors ? 


Cummin. — In The whole Ari and Trade of 
Hwshavdrie^ translated from the German by Bar- 
naby Goo^re, is this sentence, when speaking of 
the above herb ; 

It ia 80 wed boat (aa they thiiike) with cursoa and exe- 
^ntioJis, that it may prosper the better.*' 

Ii there any old superstition respecting this herb ? 
Borne seed was found a few years since, I think, 
' the coffin of William D'Albini, or in that of his 
wife, at Wy raondham in Norfolk. Waa it often 
placed in coffins ? Why ? The seed thus found 
germinated, I believe ; but Barnaby Gonge does 
not mention it among those which " are the older 

I the better." Has cummin seed ever been found 
in an Egyptian tomb ? F. C. B> 


The Episcopal Wig — Life of Bishop Portent, 
— In the Life of Bishop Portent^ by a Lay Mem- 
ber of Merton College, Oxford (London, Hvo., 
ISIO), is the following passage (p. 90.) : 

"It is a short time since all Oxford was thrown into a 
ferment by the refuaal of their newly appointed bishop, 
Or, Randolph, to abandon a comfortable head of hair for 
an epiacopol wig,** 

0r. Randolph was appointed Bishop of OxfonI, 
1799, tranBlflted to Bangor, 1806, and to London, 
1809. I believe he ultimately conformed to the 
established usage as regards the episcopal wig, 
Who was the first modern bishop who abandoned 
the wig? I should also be glad to know the name 
of the lay member of Mcrton College who wrote 
the above-mentioned Life of Bishop Porteusf 

C. H. Cooper. 

King JohiCs Charter granted to Yoitghal, — The 
Be port of the Commissioners on the Alunidpal 
Corporations of Ireland^ !S35, alludes to a charter 
of incorporation granted to the above town by 
King John, a copy of which, the commissioners 
proceed to say, is believed to be in the British 
Museum. Will any contributor to ** N. & Q.*' 
kindly set the question at rest by informing me 
whether such a document is in the Museum or 
not ? Samuel Hatkajit, Clk. 

Soath Abb«j, Yoaghal. 

Le Maine's ^^ Praises of Modesty ** — Where can 
I find (in some accessible work) a copy of the 
P^re Le Moine's poem, entitled Praises of Modesty^ 
from the aeveuth book of his Moral Portraits f 
Pascal alludes to it in his eleventh Provincial 
Letter. Perhaps some correspondent would kindly 
supply me wLtn a copy of the verses, if there are 
not many of them. A. Chau^teth. 

Sea Spiders. — I should be mucli obliged if any 
of your correspondents conversant with Natural 
History would inform me whether the insects 
popularly called " Sea Spiders " are commonly met 
with in the waters of this country. They belong, 
I believe, in scientific phrase, to the family of the 
Pycnogomd^, A friend of mine, who residea 
in Scotland, found them adhering to the small 
shells and sea- weeds on his yacht mooring' barrel, 
in fifteen fathoms of sea- water, P. S* 

Ribands of Recruiting Sergeants.' — Why are 
they worn ? Kobskll Goui* 

Skilful Sergeant Corderoy. — Cm Ma. Fosa or 
any of your legal antiquarian correspondents in- 
form me who ihh gentleman was, mentioned in 
the note at the foot of p, 133. of Athena Oxo* 






fdenses, yo!. i., by Bliss, 184S (edit. Ecdes, Hist. 
Society) ? Was lie a member of Serj^eant's Inn, 
C bun eery Lime ? and if so, are the arms of the 
sergeant emblazoned anywhere there F and what 
were they ? Any mformation respecting him or 
his hmily will be acceptable. Shorkolds^ 

A Note for Junius, — 

« Before I went to bed read some of Francis* Indian 
Minides; quitft able enoagh to bock him as the autlioT of 
«ftt«i«i." — 3§>ore*i( Diary, vol. iiL p. 188. 

Query, Have any of the inquirers after the author 
eoDsulted these Muiutes? J*iL 

■ Wobum Abb»y« 

Anecdote of Canning. — During the time when 
the Right Hon. George Canning was in the ad- 
min is t ration, and tm the breaking up of a meetinj^ 
of the council, he the Right Hon. George Canning, 
I think it was, who undertook to tell any of those 
present that he would ^uess their thoughts in less 
than twenty- one qnestiona. One of the party 
thought of the wtmd o£ office. 

The first question was : Waa it celestial or ter- 
rutml? An», TerrestriaL 

Seeeod, Was it animal or vegetable? Am, 

I have 

! have read the above in some work, affid do not 
know where 1 can proc\ire a copy. I thought yon 
would he enabled to let me know what work it 
WES in, and where I might obtain a copy* E* F* S. 

Comedif at the Coronation of Edward VI, — In 
the Rev, Joseph Mendliara*s Memoirs of the 
Council of Trent (8vo,, London, 1834), be quotes, 
from a MS. collection in his possession, an extract 
from a letter, dated March 8, 1547^ addressed to 
Monsignore Verallo by Cardinal Farnese, in which 
It ii stated that, at the coronation of Edward VL, 
^ajB were performed tn dishonour and vitupera- 
tion of the Pope and the cardinals. The pa«aB^ 
is aff follows (p. 113. note). The cardinal ia 
speaking deile cose d Inghikerra^ and proceeds 

** E qnaato nlla dispositione di quelle amimt- ambkt^ 
^itoniar all* aaion' ddlia Chiesa, et uhedionza dola Sade 
ApoBtolirca, lin qui non si comprendt; co^ bttonai ma ft 
V«de tutto r oppoaito per alrunt cmnmrdie, che soQO atite 
recitate nella cumnatione del iiuo\*o Tirannetto, in dlMBcr 
a vilopiiho del Papa, e ddli C»tdinali." 

Is this Statement of Cardinal Farnese's & hts* 
toriod ftct ? if 80, what are the plsys referred! to ? 

J. M. B. 

WorJt on the Reality nf the DeftU.^ln the 
Mamiurgische Zeitschrt/t, Au^, 1778, a work by 
Profeaaor Link, of Gieasen, Uber die Besessentr, 
is reviewed ; and called ** one of the many works 
about wliiuh the public is 90 curious as to the 
Ijeraonal reality of the Devd." Another is men- 
tioned tinder the title, Man muss mch den Teu/el 

nicht zu md mt/b iirden. The con t ro v ersy i a treated 
as one of gresit interest, and Dr. Johiin Seniler is 
frequently referred to. Can any of your readers 
give me the title of Semler^s book, or any otliers, 
on the controversy^ carried on in Germany at that 
time ? N. E. B* 

l>mtk of Sir ThomoM Prenderptitt — The ftil* 
lowing extract is from an obii.uai^y notice whicli 
appears in The lUu^traied London New» of Satur- 
day, Dec. 2a, 1854 : 

I ** Few of the Anglo-Xorman fumlTfes In Trelatid hav» ' 
held a more honourahlfl and enduring: positioa than tbafe 
of Prenderfjast, seated ftir cetHurioa at Newcustle, in the 
county of Tippwary. One of the descendanta (Sir Thoa, 
Preji<lerga«t, Bart,) wai aji eminent soldier of the reiga 
of Queon Aoae, and a partkipator in the vk lories of 
Murlborough. The mysterious warninjjj that faretifld faia 
death, forma a mont carioas and well'imthenUested anec* 
dote in ikiaily romance." 

I have no doubt that many of your readers can 
teatiff to the annoyance of a reference to " the 
weU-known anecdote" which one doe* mit know^ 
and as I happen to stand in that pretiicament m 
the present caat% I shall be tbunkful to anybo.fy 
who will give me the parlicubira of the ** well- 
authenticated anecdote' here referred to. 

G. Tatw>e, 


True Crosby Relic of in the Tower. — From certain 
original letters in tiie poaseasion nf a relative of 
mine, I am led to believe that, as late as the reigns 
of James L and Charles !., there was preserved la 
tlic Tower of London, among the crown jewels, fi 
relif^ supposed to be a portion of the true Cross. 
Can any of your correspondents enlighten mo 
upon this 8ubj*?pt, and give any infurmaiirm m to 
the previous history of this relic, and wbui be- 
came of it ? J, A. B. 

Pnfssic Acid from Blood. — Tn Niebuhr s Zpir- 
htrf9<m Ancient Hij(torjf, translated by Dr. Schmitz 
(3 vols. 8vo., London, 1852), the lolhiwrng pas- 
sage occurs with rt^ference to the story current 
in ontif|uity, that ThcmiHtoclea poisoned himself 
with bull's blood (see Grote^s Hist, of Greece^ 
Yol V. p. 386.) : 

** It is f^enemllv acknowledged that the statement of 
hiB having killed nini»eir by dnnkin^ ox-blooj is a mere 
fiction^ for no quadruped baa |>oisonous hlofx]. Tliere 
are, however, several castfs in which men are aaid by the 
ancients to hav« killed th«m<f«{vefl wjth the blood of 
oxen. Wt' kuow indeed that this is impos^ble ; hat the 
proasic acid of modem dmea was at first (about ninety or 
oao butidred veari ago) prepared from hlood ; ami is it 
not possible that the ancient^ (of whose chemical know* 
ledge we form mn«h tt»o low an estimate) knew how lo 
prepare it, though pcfrhapt in an impure and inn perfect 
state^ aad thtii extracted (he deadlie:st of all poisonN from 
bkod ? Such an AX^lanalion suems to me by no meaai 
fonred; and how dhauld such a tradition have hecoms 
established in Greece, had there not been an occasion ftir 


Jar, 6. 1855.] 



it? If 8ach A prepjirttjon had no sfpwific nAm«, H mfglit 
V«fy welt be cillcfl ox-l«lood ; And the etorr may have 
becas understood at Athens in tb* aamc manner in which 
it Bas b<?ca unilcrstood down to our days ; naniely, that 
Themialocle* killed himself with actual ojc -blood."— Vol. L 
p. 361. 

With respect to this conJGctureT perhaps some of 
your conrespoiKlents will be able to state whether 
prussic acid was known to i'bemistd ninety or one 
huodreil years ajio ; and whether it has ever been 
extracted from blood ? MoreoTer^ does any other 
example occur in antic|uity (as stated by Niebiihr) 
of a atappofled iuicide by di inking bull's blood ? L. 

Thiri^en, — Fosbrooke, in the second vol a me of 
his AniJqwiiies, p. 797., under the bead of ■■* Popular 
Supenftitiofis/' stiitCis that ** thirteen in company 
W99 eonsidered an unlticky nuoiber by the ancunt 
Bomaiis,^ What clasaical authority has he for 
tfaiifttteiiientF G. M. 

EdBBlall, Penrith. 

Hsmgnumw Waget* — I haye often heard thii 


applied to the sum of thirteen pence half- 
penny. What ta the reason of ita bein^ so callctl ? 

In the London Reniiw, No. L (April, 1835) 
p^ 3d., hanging is spuken of as a cheaper puni^h- 
mmA than traoiportation ; " for the fee of the 
CBficutioner," sa^s the reviewer^ " with rope in- 
eiudfldf leldom exceeds thirteen tbdlingiii and six- 
peooe^** Is this correct? Is it possible that a 
man could be ittduced to play the part of Jack 
Ketch for so trifling sum aa 13f. 6d, ? 

H. Mabtdt. 


[l>r. Simoet P^ggB addrnsed a paper to the Society of 
AotiqQartes on the vulgar not i an, though it da«B not 
appear to be a vulgar error, that thirteen -pence haUpen ay 
was the fee of the executioner ut Tybam^ anil hence it is 
oaUfld hanynuin'i waget^ The Doctor mya, **A3 to the fet 
ilfldf*^ tbirteen-pence halfpenny «<- it appears to be of 
Scottish •atTaction. Th« 8cottiih mark (merk), not ideal 
or nominal mofioy lik« oar markt was a silver coin, in 
vabi3 thirteen -pence ha]f|iynny and two placbs, or two- 
thirds of a penny- This Scottish mark wan, upon the 
union of ttic two crowns in the person of James I., made 
cniTcnt in En^hmd at the value of thirteen- pence half- 

rmy (without regarding the fraction), by prockmation, 
the first year of tiiAt king; where it IsVaid, that *the 
•coin of »iiver called the mark piece, shall be from hence- 
fbrth current within the said kingdom of England, at the 
Value of thirteen -pence halfpenny,* This, probably, was 
a Terolution in the current mont^y in favour of t he hang - 
naa, who^e fee before was perhiiptt no more than a Ahil- 
Uiig. There is, however, very good reijson to conclude, 
from the singularity of the flnm, that the odious title of 
kanaman'$ tcw^i became at thiA time, or noon af^er^ appH- 
eabte to the sum of thirteen -ponce halfpenny. Though it 
wa* contingent, ytt it wa« thea very condderaUle pay; 
when one ahiUing per day was a standing anniULl stipend 
to many reflpectable afQ«<if s of various kincls.7' Dr. Ptgge's 
artkk wiU be found in his CuHalia MUcellunea, which 

has been copied ififo Hon«*8 TaAV Smk^ vol. li. p. f»96. 
Conimlt alw) the Gemt. Mag. for Fed. 1821, p, 1U4 -. and 
Dr. Grej''s note in Jludibrtu, purl m. canto ii. line 751.] 

Aju;ifnt Carving, — Some eight years since a 
gctitleiium rr^idiijg in Ipswit'h fMircbai»eil, at a 
carpenter*s shop in llarkf^tfrtd, SufTuIk, the reaiains 
of a carve*! oak nmnltepiecei cnnsisting **f two 
aemifirculjir |)ilj*sters, four grofegqui.' supj>f»rtcr», 
and two similar roals of urms. Crest, the ht-ad 
and neck f>f a pard, on an fsquire'a helmet, shitdd, 
iind chevron betwee»» three p^^lleta. The culoura 
are wnnting. The outer pair of grotesques bear 
the initials L 0., and the date 1638. Can any 
one had to the discovery of the tamily to whom 
thia work of art heLtn^ed? J. D. G. 

[Till! arm* of Gtilding of Postlingford, and of ForBham, 
both in CO. Sut^.^lk, urc — Gnh:*, sa chevron ur hctween 
three beinnts, Richirrd Ttiriter. of Great TUurlow, mar- 
ried Susan, dii lighter of John Goldia^ of Postlingford, 
circa l€0O— 16li.] 

Jubilee of 1809. — Was there any detail **d ac- 
count published of the iielebrution of the Jubilee 
of George 111., which took place in 1800? 

E. a W. 

[Excepting Dr, Joseph Kenip*i pamphlet, entitled Th€ 
Patrioiic Enter tainmcHt, cafkd the Jubilee^ Lr»ndon, 1809, 
we know of fjo oth*?r di'tailed jHcount than what will be 
found in Lhe ntiWHf}afien« aJid periodicals of the time: BO0 
especially Ackermann's Repository -'\ 

Coai Armour. — To what names do the f<dlow- 
ing bearings behmg Y Purpure (?), a chevron be- 
tween three ra bints si»j;int ar;rtnit. Argent, a 
feas between three fa I conn ri;tin*( sable. Quar- 
terlyi or and jrules^ four lions pasiant guars l.-mfc, 
counterchanijed. Patoncb, 

[The la«t eoat is probably that of North Wales, lh« 
eofoars btlng qaartiTly gulc* mid or, the lion a countcp- 
chonged. (Archaoh^a, xtlx. 407.) We cttuaot tracse 
the others.] 




fV^oLix.,pp. 305. ft03.) 

** In 1657 aa order was passed * that if any one brncii^ 
a Quiiker^ ranter, or oiher notorious heretic witliin tha 
inri*liction of Plym^^uth colony, and should be ordered 
bv th*j mtigi-itnite to rftnrn him wbeaee be came, they 
sCould obey, or pay a tlm? of twenty shillings for evpry 
week that"«nch obnoxiou!! person should remain in the 
colony after such warning, ^m 

" In despite of the twenty-shilling law, Quakers did H 
come within their precincts, and proclaim iheir hatad B 
tenets. This gave ocLUsion to a severer law, to the effoct 
that whoever should harbour or entertain any Quaker In 
the colony would lubjwt himself to n p^nalfy of fiv« 
pound?* for evert^ t^ffem e, or a public whipping. 

" In Ck tober,* 1^7, Humphrty Norton was exaioinad 
by tlie court, who foami hinv guilty of divera errors, and 
banished hiin from the colony. He returncdj howcver^in. 


[No. 271. 

company m'th another Quaker of aimllar apirit. They 
were arrested and imprisoaeti A prominent feature in 
the cqndact of the Quaker.-*, whkk greatly oxospGraC^ 
the court, was, their contempt of the legal aathorities. 
Xhey gare tbeir toncrues giemt liraojcei, and seemc^l to 
nave imagined that mey were honoariDg God by their 
insolent defiance of the civil tribunala. Thos, at tlieir 
examination, Norton said to the governor a number of 
times, ' Thorn liest, Thomas ; thou art a malicious man.' To 
provoke greater severity, he said to the governor, * Thy 
clamorous tongue I regard no more than the dust under 
my feet, and thou art tike a scolding woman, and thou 
pratett and deridest me/ As they professed to be"En;j:liRh 
subjects, the court orden?d th<*m to take the oath of ride' 
lity to tiieir conntrj'. On their refuaing, declaring tbey 
would take no kind of oath, they were sentenced to be 
whipped. After the sentence was executed, and whlUt 
they were smarting under the strjpes they had receivccl» 
tlie marshal ordered them to pay a fee for the whipping ! 
Thatcher saySr in our timers we should think public whip- 
ping to be a sufficient punishment, without obliging the 
culprit to p.iy the whipper^a fee. The Quakers not asseiat- 
lug to pay the required amount, were imprijoued until 
the marshal was Mtisfied. 

In 1658, the court fhimed a bill with this explanatory 
preamble : Whereas sundry Quakers and others wander up 
and down in this jurisdiction^ and follow no lawful calling 
to earn their own bread, and also use all cudeavours to 
subvert cl>'il state, and pull down all churcho* and ordi- 
nances of God, to throat us otit of the waj-a of God, not- 
withstanding all former laws providt'd for the contrary ; it 
is decreed, that a hou^e of correction be built, in which 
all .fuch individuals, with all idle persons, or rcbiillions 
childreo, or servants that are stubborn and will network, 
should bo obliged to earn their living by labour, under the 
direction of an overseer. 

** On the Uth of May, 1659, six persons, among whom 
were Lawrenc^j Southwicke and wife, were sentenced to 
depart out of the jorisdiction of the colony by the Bth of 
June, ON pcdn of death. We have no evidence, however, 
thai this extreme penalty was inflicted upon any Quaker 
in the riymtmth colony. For what was done in the 
Massachusetts settlement at Boston they are not respon- 
sible. The tragedies which were enacted there during 
this period will be described in another volume oa the 
hi?-tory of that colony." — Bonvord's Flymonth and fA* 
JPilgrims, BoatoQ, 185 L 

History proves thnt the leading men of Massa' 
cliusetts, in law And divitiity, firmly believed in 
witchcraft, and without any qualms of conscience 
readily condemned those unfortunate beings who 
were Accused of it to suffer death. " WitchcrafTt," 
shouted Cotton Slather from the pulpit, ** b the 
mo«t nefandoua high treason ;" and fourteen per- 
BOns, men and women included, are too certainly 
known to have perished. But how did this per- 
secution result ? It wag not long after these 
executions had terminated, that we find the 
** General Court of the Province asking pardon 
of God for all the errors of his servants and people 
in the late tragedy," Judge Sewall, who pr^ided 
at the trials, rose in his pew at churchy " and ira- 
plored the prayers of the people that tbc errors he 
nail committed might not be visited by the judg- 
ments of an avenging God on his country, his 
family, or himself*" And now, in a MS. diary of 
this departed judge, may be read, on the margio 

against the description of these trials, in his owa 
handwriLingj these words of Latin interjection 
and sorrow ; " Voe ! voe ! voe I Woe I woe I woe I" 





(Vol.x,, pp.489, 490.) 

In this one column we have, from three sources^ 
collected by three different correspondents, evi- 
dence of which neither three nor three hundred 
such statements can prove to the satisfactioQ of 
those incredulous matter-of-fact people, who will 
be satisfied with nothing short of baptismal re- 
gisters, and which they call legal proof In the 
liope therefore of saving time and your spacct 
allow me to remind your correspondents, that 
more than half a century since, as known to every 
bookseller, and testified by every book-stall in the 
kingdom, there was published, by an ingenious 
gentleman of the name of Easton, a substantial 
octavo volume of three hundred pages, containing 
" the name, age, place of residence, and year of 
the decease of 1712 persons who attained a ecu* 
tury or upwards." Surely here is proof as goo 
as any that can be found in " the waste leaf of i 
old magazine" (tmte^ p. 499.); proofs which, " namo| 
and place of residence" being given, your sceptic 
are bound personally to inquire into before they 
presume to bint a doubt. Mr, Eastonn^ as he him- 
self tella U9, was over-scTupuloua ; and yet 
appears from his prcfat^e (p. xvi.), that more tha 
one-sixth of the 1712 were between 110 and 120 
when they died; and three were between 170 and 
185 ! Mr. Easton refused admittance to every! 
account of the authenticity of which he had tha^ 
smallest doubt. And therefore, though the fact 
was vouched for by "two respectable authors," 
and confirmed by a third, who was " historiogra- 
pher royal," he did not include in his list one 
man who died at the age of " 370 years ;" but 
recorded the fact in his preface, that ** the reader 
might form lus own opinion respecting iL" ^_ 

** N. k Q." sometimes take an interest in cases 
relating to longevity. I may mention an Instance 
attended by more than one remarkable circum- 
stance. Near Springburn, about three miles dis- 
tant from Glasgow, on the old north road leading 
to Stirling, are to be found residing in a humble 
cottage, a venerable Scotch couple, vir. Geoffjc 
Robertson, ninety-two years of age, and bis wife 
eight J- seven, who have been sixty -seven years 
married. They have outlived all their children ; 
with only, so far as they are aware, some remote 
descendants abroad. The old man has become of 
late considerably paralytic, but retains the powers 






fjAN. 6. 1855.] 



of his memory and jml^ment better tlian could 
^ Lave beeQ expected. His partner in life U yet 
Lealiliy and active for her yeiirs, ^ 
i A better example of a shrewd intelligent couple 
I could not eiisily be seen ; who, whik they were 
f mble to follow their ordinary occupation, were in- 
' dependent and hard-working. It would trespfl^a 
I too mufb on space to give any history of *' Old 
• George," as he is familiarly called. In the prime 
> of life he was many years engaged as a man-of- 
war's man ; served with Sir Sidney Smith at St, 
Jean d'Acre, where he wad wounded in the arm ; 
mud was concerned in most of the exploits of 
Kelson, and at the battle of the Nile, Afterwards 
he voluntarily left the service; and for having 
done this, be says he was not entitled to any, pen- 
sion or other government assistance. 

The thatched cottage in which he resides is also 
I a relic of by-gone times, it having been a way- 
side hostelrie in 1745, kept by Janet Stobo ; at 
which Prince Charles halted and refreshed, on his 
inarch with the rebel troops from Glasgow to 
Stirling on the morning^ of Jan. 3, 174<5, In the 
tout emeinhh of this scene, truth appeals more 
powerfully than any kind of fiction. You enter 
the cottaj^e, and see the a^ed couple by the fire- 
aide reading the Bible and instructive books, their 
almost constant employment ; and hoping, with 
Christian resignation, that their ** time will not be 
long now." With all the vivacity of a young hero. 
His dim eyes glistening full of tears, George will 
deserib@ to the youn^ listeners around, Kelson and 
the fleet, and iight his battles over again. He has 
always been a little tliin man, endowed with a 
highly nervous active tcmpcTamcnt, 

If there was any fund in London applicable to 
guch cases, a very small allowance would be ex- 
tremely beneficial In eraoothing the few remain- 
ing days of this interesting couple, and would be 
I judiciously bestowed. G. N. 


Bromtyiodide of Silver. — I see bv a letter published In 

"K & Q." of last week^ that Mr.'Rkade states that a 

real bromo- iodide of silver is formed by tho lolutioii of 

bromitie of ailver in iodide of potassJiimt aDii that he finds 

fault with A former letter of Mr, Leacuman's on this 

subject* Now there may be, as I allow, a difiereace in 

the molecalAr airangcmeat of iodido of silver deposited on 

ft paper, and thus a more perfect impresiioii prodticed 

mntf or even yellows ; but that there exist jh even the 

t trace of bromide of silver ia the depoiit, I entirely 

\ deoY. To prove this let me only ask that Mr, Rkadb 

i wilf do roe thefavotw of trying the following experiments. 

rTlko three graias of nitrate of ^Iver, and three ^raina of 

I iodide nf potaitiom; diuolve separately ; then add them 

[together, and wiah the precipitate thiu produced with 

fdiitilled water; drain aa dry ta nosiible, and add half an 

I cmnce of liqnld ammonuii fort, ; let them digest together 

for leveral hours, shaking occaaonally, and filter the bo- 

lotion repeatedly till quUc clear; next repeat tht 
<!j£penuient with only the substitution of hromide of po* 
taaainm fof the iodide abore mentioned; plac* the two 
solutions apart in separate teat tubesw Next take the so- 
Imtlon OB recommended by Da. DiAMOxnand Mb, HeADa, 
and addinje water to precipitate the »o-calleil bromo- 
iodide of piTverp collect the precipitate on a filter; wjuih it 
well, and digest it with ammonia m before; filter the 
liquid, and place it in another test tuhe. Now to each of 
these add an exce&s of dilute nitric acid ; the resnlt will 
he that the first will become only in the imallest possible 
degree opalescent, if at all so. The second will become 
quit« wnite with the precipitate produced, while the 
third will show exactly the same comportment as the 
first. This establish eji that we have a method of detecting 
bromine aad iodine separately ; and also that in the cane 
of Mr. Reade's bromo-iodide of 8ilver» it comports itjwlf 
nnth ammonia aa iodide of silver does. But, he will My, 
docij that prove that this is not bromo-iodlide of silver? 
Yes, it doesj by the following experiment; first, mix ia 
solution three grains of iodide of potasaiumi and two of 
hromidts of potaisittin ; add nitrate of ailyer in slight ex* 
cess, and tben welt wash the precipitate in a dark room ; 
digest this, as before, in amTiicnia, and on the addition of 
an actd the same result ia obtained as in the case of pure 
bromide of silver, that is to any, complete milkiness of the 
liquid. The reason for using the above proportions is, 
that this is the proportion, or nearly so, in which iodine 
and bromine combine separately i and so we may expect, 
from similar examplea occurring in chemia try, that this 
is their proper proportion of combination with boMfl; but 
should tbb not satisfy Ma. Rbadk, let him add the least 
posiiiblo amornit, instead of the above-named quantity of 
bromide, and he will always find that it at once produces 
extra milkine^ In direct propartion to the quantity of 
hromide added, when compared with the almost complete 
transparence of the solution produced by what he chooses 
to call brtimo-iodido of silver. Now lam far from sayiiig 
that there does not exist sucb a com pound ba bromo- 
iodide of silver, but only that this is not the way to 
make it j nor would I for the world detract from the value 
of Dr. DiAHOXD*g discovery, by which these troublesome 
green tints may be impressed ; all I say ls^ that thia ig 
not the way to get bromo-iodide of silver, as all the 
bromine remains in solution. But now for the method to 
get the substance required. The only means 1 know of 
£3 a modification of a proce^ which appeared some timo 
since in " N, & Q." Take fifty grains of iodide of potas- 
sium, and fifty grains of nitrate of silver j mix in separata 
fiortions of distilled water; poor them together, and coll- 
ect and well wash the precipitate. Next take Hfteen 
grains of bromide of potassium, and tiflcen grains of nitrata 
of silver, and treat them in & similar manner. Mix the 
two precipitates thus produced In a measure glass, and 
fill the latter to mark six ounces with distilled water. Now 
add very carefully, in very minute portions at a time, and 
in fine powder, some cyanide of potoasium, till the liquid 
o«/y imt clears up, and then filtiar it The best cyanide 
for the purpoM h that purified by cryatallisation from 
alcobol, as tno ordinary cyanide contains much free alkali^ 
and acts injuriously on the paper ; it will, however, do in 
default of better. The paper ii to be laid oa usual on this 
liquid, and when it has thoroughly imbibed, to be taken 
olf; when nearly drietl, throw it into a hath of a quart of 
distilled water, to which haa been added one or two 
ounces of glacial acetic acid. By this means the cyanide 
ia decomposed, and the iodide and bromide of silver pre- 
cipitated together, I prefer not using more bromide than 
above indicated, aa it makes the colour of the negative 
rather too red when finished ; but it may be increased at 
the pleasure of the operatori or the whole quantity of " 






Iodide smd broinide of ailrer may be incroosad, if a. thicker 
cottrqg of sheM labBtsneei be roqaircd. Th« paver, after 
\Mang ivjisbed in ■evees! w<t«iB, m&y be dried and used mi 
the ordmarj itMltied |>aper. After a cerUia time tbe 
■Mtic acid irill rvqtiire to be renewed. If the oper«tar 
pralvn vaing the ordinary pyrol igneous acid, as a mbeaper 
nMj^eiat, Ue can dn »o, only employing; double the oiiaatity. 
Ttut paper, 1 tjuL is rather iujariously sflectea by ex« 
poeurc to light before iieitsittain^, and should be kept ia a 
dark portfolio ; but if oaly exposed for a ve»y ehort time, 
aod Dot to very bright li|fb£, appear! to epontaneouslj 
reeoyer its former condition. F, B(axv^cll XiYT£. 

Argelbe, Hiiuies Pyr^'iu^ Due 15, 1854. 

**Xa Xmmiirt ^ and I^ain^aphjf in Kngkutd, — Our able 
f^pencfa cotemporary La [.irjiUKaii:, of the 23rd ultimo, 
llBlltaiaa two articles whicli iihow that thn tuteute eordiadt 
h«tmmo the French and EngjIiRli photoi^nipbers i« com- 

gate. The llrst it a chticiil nutice of aoine eopiee of Da. 
lAJgonD^'s I'QrtraiU of iht Iasan&, in wbicb full justice is 
daoe t« our excdlcut corrc^pondoni'a abiMos a» a pboto- 
piaph«f; and tu tbe value to tbe medkad world of thia 
mganjouja application of \m art. The necoaii bat reference 
to tbe aub«cxiptiofii to suppart M, Larocbe in bin kw- 
aait witb Mr. Talbot, sad to the teatimonijil to Djl Dia- 
mond; end after comptimeiitifig £u^h«b photographen 
for the manner in which thay bare come forwoid on boUi 
tbeeo grounds, and in tbe btt«r ciue bow tbey appreciate 
the aervicBs of oiie ** who neeke not bis ovni bencht, but 
tbe pmigresa of liia art," the writer exproMes hi* hopes 
to me tbe day when aiiailar Be r vice* will be ever>' where 
wcqgniaed in a atmilar uuuiaer. 

Pkeioyn^v and Law, — The litigation in the pbotO' 
graphic world ba§ nut been put a atop to bi^ the receat 
Terdict in the cane of Tatinft w Ltttoche. It h under- 
stood that the plalntilf mean a to move for a new triaU 
and tliat on the i)tb be will malie bis application to the 
Privy Ccunqil for a renewal yf hia piiteiit; and to wbicli 
application no oppoaition hii-i, we hear, bi^en cuuretl. On 
the other hand, a meeting has bc«u beld« *'of Lboae who 
are interested in the art, to adopt meaatuei for tbe pur- 
pose uf supporting the Yerdi^ t. 

TkSAiiion cf the Phnt^rnphk Socidiff. — Thi4 exhi- 
tdtilMl, which is to take pUce early tn the present mofitb, 
will, we believe, show the vajt proj^reie made by tbe art 
during the peat year. 

Many compJaiirta have reached on of tbe sbortiieii of 
Him netice given by the ooinmittee, and La Liam^tm of 
Saturday last gpre* expreeaiofi to the senae filing on 
behalf of foreign exhibitora. Why abo old this b« ? 



^Jfiatme ihf dWiu^" (Vol Lii , pp. 299. J97.; 
V«l v^ p. 61 9.). — Mtlifin teye^ tbat Tibenua wtw 
Oiw erho mt/ed the iDfumruB |s-oYwi> «Huded to hj 

" They preetiae that whee they fall, tbey may £aLI is a 
gvieral ruin $ jsiat ae cruel Tihenui would 'wish': 

* * W hoi I die, let the eerth he rtAled in flemea.'** 
Bmmm ^ tSmrdk .Gotvnvnifnf . book i. cb. r. p, SI. 

llacKSMcii Wai^oott, M.A, 

of l^« 

■*K correi^poTident aaks what If tlie orkj^ 
bean fcaet** amuDg iiie «ervaiit« At Um." 

[No. 271^ 

ry-making^. ^| 

eoln^s Ion? I believe several traded a^'^pt 
dime naote for tbe journey iiien*^ merry -making^. 

Remedy for Jaundice (Vol. x., p. 321.) ; Venom 
of Toada (Vol. vi., p, 517.). —The remedy for 
jftundice, recorded by G. W. B.^ b not peculiar to 
Dnreetabire. The learned Fred. Homnnon (of 
Hiilk) made a note of it in 1675, in bia ChmU 
Pharmaceutiea Schr&deriana^ p. 705. : 

** FKDiruLU& Contra icterum dev'oraDtur ii roatida 
nO ix, et ift atrophia 4 nonn^ullis probantur." 

The Mne ^nme suppliei axi older Ter^ion of 
the «tory in Tbomaw Lnplun's A Thoiaand NottUde 
Things (1630), which was noted by Mb. Feaoogk 
in Vol, vi*, p. 617. ; and repliefl to tdie Query wbiiab 
tbe stwj Buggoited, ^ Haa tbe load mi ontipatltj 
to rue?'' 

** Salvia . , . TnmFplantatnr Marti o, cum mia inivr- 
miriAt qua mrpenitt et t»tfoHe§ eelvisi vjciamm ctfceastfttr.'* 

Thus fur Hofiman quotes from Jo* Scljroeder ; lie 
then adds : 

** S<dvuB virtntes ad pBrmnUos aLSectus corporis hiuDSoi 
commcndiiri infrh Tidcbimus; nihilominns tumen et ilia 
soaa ha bet qtDilimies aoxia*s ct virnlcnta ccnsetur esse ce, 
qutt foUonim piiuios ciwasi carbiinculditas habetjCt penitua 
retorrida est, emaciata et sieca, ad cuJua radices «t pluri- 
nmm bufones et alia vin»a insecta nidulAiitur. i'ar«M^ 
da f «neii*i, cap. 24.^ refert, se a Me di^ito accepisse, ditoi 
aurcatorei, noil longe ab urbe Tolrtaond iltotis sAlviie foLiii 
in Tinnm conjectts illiob atqiie illud bibissent, neci fuine 
datoe ; eab cujus radicibui tngens bufonam acerraB et*- 
bulari deinde rcpertos est, nuos spurcitie 6U& eafviam 
spurcasea. Uedicus istius loci confirmaTrt.''^^P. 5S€L ^_ 

The worka of ParDeua (Ambrose Parfc) were, ^^M 
believe, fimt published in 1561, Vsetau*, 

Hartford, Comi. 

Age of Oaks (Vol. X., p. 146.). — I iiTia tlie 
following in the Laudtm Ckromde, Jan, 24, 175S: 

** We hear from Dnrbara that lost week Thomas Tay- 
lor, Esq., of Comsaw Raw, in the parish of Landiester» 
hod a considerable fall of trees, amongst which was one 
oak of extraordinary aise; the length of the trunk from 
the root to the branches 4G yards 18 inches, tbe circum- 
ference 7 yarda lil iuchet : the exlfflwe itietaaiie of tbe 
branches as it lay along the ground meastind acrose tha 
treak no yards. ItismiaeaatJII. Near the root ^Mf 
fbund, in a entill iron bex, a grant of that eKtenahn 
m&iMT tn the fanilf Iram ting Jelua, eappaeed te ba«ft 
buen huri«d thene, itfbeaC the time <of the ioTaBen ^ 
Deiid, King «f Boat^ ia the jmr IMJ" 

C. K. 

Fctemoeter Row. 

White Slavery (VoL x, p-3W50*— The law* of 
Bcntwylvania, and of several otUer of tbe United 
SMea^ formerly Airtberieed the sal^ of tbe services 
of ineolvent <iebtori, and of foreiga 

for a term tif **»«, to pnv their p»w y - a 
and other debts, in 9o»e State?, laws ortltTi Had 
cogrtiDued to force until a very recent period. 
Pffyasis wbo thuM atM tliemselvos to aeriio^ for 

fjAK. 6. 1855.] 




the paj^ment of pwaage- money, were caUed " Ke- 
deiijpt loners.** See uie Quarterlf/ Revicta^ vol, jt. 
I p. 501. (note), and pp, 519~'20, ^ Piekering'a Vo' 
i€abtdiinf (Bustou, 1^16), s. v, Kedkmftiokrr. 

' Talented'* (VoL x., p, 323.).— Dr, Wehster^a 

^ EUtliority Ijaa not given cuTreiic? to tJm uew- 

I coined atJjective^ exoept with earelesa writera und 

I flpejtkers. It i^ occoi^ioDally beard m conversa- 

I tion, or met wiib la a hustilj-writtco newspaper 

article ; but I ajti not aware tbut i^ts use is saac* 

tioned by an/ writer of approved stjb", Kn^liah 

or Americuo, Vehtaub* 

** He that Mghts and run^ awai/,^' ^c. fVol. x., 

6333.). — The passage of TtrtuIIiau, quoted by 
. P. from Newman's Cfntrch of the FulherM^ is to 
be fuuiid in the De Fuga in Persecutione^ sec. 10. 
In the copy I tiae (Gersdorfs ed.) tke^jreek pro- 
I Terb is given in a note : 

B. H. a 

This was already looked upon as an old aaybig 
in the davB of Tertullian, wLo, ita his book De 
) Fuga in Pemccuiione^ writes of it thus : 

** Sed omiaalj quidiim di\Mnis exhortatiouibus, ilium 
Lsugtt 6rii»cum rer^kulum ftacuUrit seot^Dtitt sibi ad- 

* Qui fii^tebatf niratia pT«(tlafaltiirf — 
I Hi fltTuraiu foraitan fugtat.^*— Cap. %.. 

The " Greek verse*' here spoken of by Tertullian 
' is deemed by one of his annotator% Kheima, to 
lutve been the following : 

i Uid made either by or for Demos th«nes as hia 
[^it answer for having left kii «liietd behind bim, 
ad run nway at the battle of Cliffironea. 

N^wick^ Sussex. 

Mengrave Church (VoLx., p. 405/). — If such 
. AQ ifCt as referred to ever received the royal 
aajieut, it would doiibilu€« be found luuam^ the 
private acts in the Parliament O&e* G. 

Parish Registers (Vol. x.^ p. 337.), — Mil. 
Blbncowk's commuaiciitbn under thi« fcitle has 
rather astonished me, as be appears to have com- 
pletely coiTfiKinded parish regiaters and church- 
war<lens' areounts. One only of his extracts ap- 
penrH to be from a pairish regitsier^ etrietly bo 
. called. 

The extracts ott the Wgrntiing of tii note i^ppear 
J to be from books belonging to the parish of 
l^ralntree, but this h not distinctly stated. As- 
iirainir that I am correct in this suppofition» may 
why chronoloMrical order wa^ not observed, 
id of fducing X5d0 before 23 Hen. MLL^ and 
14074 after both f 

The " fllmanvyvets," which he ponjectures may 
mean German uwtao-bookii should no doubt be 
idtnaurifvuitM^ a name given to a light kind of 
arinourf beoauae it was rivet ted after the old 
Alinayne fashion, (Minshew ; TesL ¥et^ 622. ; 
Sharp*a Couentry Mysteries^ 195.; HoUinshed, 
Hi^. Ireland^ 56. ; Fairholt on Coittume^) 

The notion that the parish paid for discbarging 
a *^ Fopiiib priest " out of the ecclesiasLtcal court 
in 1585, nearly tbtrteen years after the accession 
of Queen Elizabeth, is rather amnsitng ; but wJiat 
can be etiid reppeetlng the supposition that ninety- 
foar quarts of wine were consunied in one year 
for the oiiromiyiion in a town wiih a popniaticm of 
about 'iOOO? As Mb. Blencows is evidently 
aware that Wbiteun ales, and similar drinking*, 
were customary at the period^ is it not highly pro- 
bable that a largo portion of this wine was so 
u&ed ? 

Tbe extracts from the oorporactiou accounii of 
Saffron Walden do not appear to me very apropoM 
of tbe subject-matter of Ma. Blbncowb*s Note. 

Tbompsow Coopjsb* 


Sahdatimi after Sneezing (Vol.x., p. 421.). — 
While proceeding in a public vebii-le from Bo- 
logna to Milan in the year 1847, I happened to 
sneeze, when a lady who sat near me called aloud 
^^feticita^'* which attracted the notice of the other 
passengers. Having been aware of tbe importance 
attached to the omen, nothing fartbei' occurred 
than the whole passing over among us with a good- 
natured smile. In Scotland some attention is jet 
paid to it. As I have long understood^ to sneese 
once is considered lucky ; twice in succession un- 
lucky. G. IJ. 

Diciionajy of Living AtUhore (VoL x., p. 451.). 
— Ctdalogue of fimthMndred cehhraied Aidhors^ 

1788. In the copy now before me 

rs, A-c. 
is this 


*' A meagre and incorrect work, which we lOienllcMi bare 
OS cbart-ituiken notice shoals to be aToided." ^ H. HoTDiBt 
tnt to BMogn^y, vol ii. p. 422. 


My apology is due to the readers of ** K. & 
Q^** if^ as appears probable, I have committed an 
error in attributing the compiUtion of this useful 
work to the late William ifpcott. My authority 
for doing so, which might have been given at the 
time to temper the assertion^ was, aimpfy, that in 
tbe fly-leaf of my copy waa written by a former 
pt>8»e»sor, "Bj tbe late William Upcott,** and 
that 2 bad more than once seen the same state* 
inent made in booksellers* catalo^es ; for instance, 
in that I believe of Mr. John Gray Bel!. 

The opinion of ^la.. Cornet, ibat this work Is 
tbe joint compilation of John Watkins and Fre- 
deric Shoberl, has every appearance of being the 



[No. 271. 

more correct ; and perliupa that gentleman maj 
now, in accordance with hb promise, favour iia 
with the *♦ authority " upon wmch he expressed it, 

Tir* tr . - 


WiLi-iAM Bates. 



Kin^ James Brass Money (Vol. x,, p. 385.). — 
I subjoin a list of the gun-money coinage, com- 
piled partly from booksi but moi^tiy from my owa 
and aueh other collections as I h^ve had access to* 
The authorities are very conflicting, and I should 
be gbd of any corrections, if there are any re- 
quired, 03 I had a design (not entirely laid oj^ide) 
of publishing the complete series i)f the copper 
coinage of Engl an d^ with all the varieties, colonial 
t^pcs, &c., JEcluding the leaden minced metal spe- 
cimeni, &c., lemp. Charles IL, James IE,, and 
AVilliam and Mary : 

1689. Sixpence, June, July, August, Sep- 
tember, 7ber, Noyember, December ; none of 

1689. ShiUing. June, July, August^ Septem- 
ber, October, Sber, November, 9ber; ilitto, with a 
castle under king*s head; December, lOr. 

1689. Halfcrown, July, August; ditto, with 
date under the crown ; September, October, 
8her, November, December; none of June* 

1690. Sixpence. January, February, and a 
unique one of May in the Dean of Li3inore*9 col- 

^ 1690, ShiUifig, January, February, March, 
ditto smaller size ^ April, ditto smaller size ; May, 
Jane, August, September ; none of July or Oc- 
tober known, 

16i)0. Half crown, January, February ; March, 
ditto smaller size ; April, ditto smaller size ; May, 
ditto smaller size ; June, July, August, October ; 
none of September. 

1690, Crown, Only one type* 

E. S. Tatix>e. 
Ormeshy St Margaret, Norfolk* 

This extraordinary monthly coinage appears to 
be little known in England, though there is a 
tolerable account of it lu Simon*a Essay on Irish 
Coins f and in Ru ding's Annah of the Coinage. 
Simon says, ** some of these coins, for every month 
from June, 1689, to April, 1690, inclusive, are in 
the hands of the curious." For the information 
of your correspondent J. R. G., I have in my 
possession King Jaiues brass money from January, 
16d9, to May, 1690, inclusive ; and if this last of 
this infamous monthly issue would assist or satisfy 
J. R. G., I wilt inclose it to a friend in Dublin 
for his inspection. F, J. W. 


^ Of these pieces the British Museum possesses 
eight varieties of the twelve dated May 1690, 
three of June, one of July, one of August, and 

one of September ; of the six 1690, it poftsessea 
two of May, and one of June. 

Edward HAwiuirs*. 

English Proverbs (VoL x., p. 389.). —In your 
list of tlie collections of English proverbs, with 
parallels from other European languages, you 
irnve omitted one which ought not to be passed 
over. The following is the title : National Pro' 
verbs in the principal Languages of Europe^ by 
Caroline Ward : London, J. W. Parker, 1842. 


Oen(fa BegisUr (Vol. x,, p. S93,). — Your cor- 
respondent has somewhat misunderstood mj 
Query. I wish to know how a (jenoa register 
(of 1790) may be procured, D, 

Pulpit Hour-glasses (Yolix., p.252.). — The 
earliest reference to the pulpit glass known to me 
occurs in the churchwardens' accounts of St, 
Helen's, Abingdon; where, under date mdxci, ia 
the following ; ** Payde for an houre-glusse for the 
pulpitt, 4d.'' Chahles Ebcii. 

Paternoster Row. 

Brasses of Notaries (Vol.x., pp. 165. 474.).— 

I think that Mr. Manning must nave been mis- 
taken in supposing the brass of the notary, c. 1475, 
in the church of St, Mary Tower, Ipswich, to have 
been stolen, as it has no appearance of ever having 
been remoTed from its matrix; it may possibly,, 
however, have been far a time concealed under a 
pew, OS has been the case with another brass in 
that church, described in Manning*a List as *' A 
man and his wife," but which should have beea 
"A man and his two wives, c. 1510" This was 
discovered in March, 1853, on the removal of tha 
pews in the cbancel. W- T. T. 


MiUoiis Widow (VoL viii,, pp. 12. 134., &c*).— 
In Nichols's Literary Anecdotes^ vol. ii. p, 534.^ 
art. No, 6. on Dr, Zachary Grey, it is stated : 

** He (Dr. Grey) hod one brother G<M>rge, bom in 1610, 
a Chamber-counsellor at Ne wcaatlu." 

To this is appended a note : 

** 1 have a tiimliher of thia gentlcnaaa's MS, letters ta 
Dn Grey, Sec. The following Little circumstance^ in a 
letter dated July 30, 1731, m&y ho worth preserving: 

"* 1 had a letter lately from auat Milton, who is very 
welU and lives at Nainpfwich. There were three widow 
Miltom there, viz, the poet's widow, my aunt, and another* 
The poet's widow died last summer/ '^ 

This note may be of use to some of your coire- 
spondenta. C, i>m D. 

Tallies (Vol. x., p» 485*)* — The use of tallies 
in this locality is now, I think, confined to the 
dyers, who regularly furniih their soiall tally of 



Jan. 6. 1855.] 



rirood to eacb customer having articles to be dyed ; 
I and without the reprodudion of which, the goods 
[ in question are on no account given up. The 
praiitice exists too, to some extent, mrnong the 
fmall bakers ofPlymouth, more particularly among 
those who have a Urge dinuer-baking trade. This 
BjBtem prevails in conaoquence of the numerous 
fiauda practised upon the bakers by parties apply- 
ing for dinners who had never sent them t« be 
baked, and who thus enjoyed a cheep " tuck-in/' 
to the mortification and !o3s of the rig fitful owners. 

T. Hughes. 

Tallies are still used by small shopkeepers in 
some of the villages in Warwicksshire. They are 
occasionally produced m the smalt debt courts, D, 


ne Divining Rod^ Table-turnings Spc. (Vol. x., 
p. 467.)- — As Mr, Bates appears to be unac- 
quainted with the coiiimntiiuiitioiis of Professor 
Chevreul (author of the remarkable work on the 
liarmony of colours^ lately tranabted into English) 
to the Jim mat des Savanls on the "Divining 
Hod " (la BagiieUe Dirijtaioire}^ will you permit 
me to refer him to that journal, in whit-h he will 
find a s^^ies of eight articles by Professor ChevreuL 
The concluding communication is in the number 
for July of the present ycur, John RIacbat. 



In the Jiioffraphicai Cafahwue of the principal Italuin 
Pattitrrs^ tPiVA a Tat^e of the tutemporar^ Schiu^A of Itaij/f 
4le»kfned as a Hand-ffook to the PictHre (Jaifety, bv a Lfidy, 
ediUnt by R. N. Worrum, we are furnished with a short 
but coinprvhenHhe sketch of the^ life and wurks of i7ach 
artist; emhradog the ka<!ing characteristics which dis- 
tln;^]Ah ihenitf and an euumwation of their principal 
worku. The aecomnanying Synckntnout Ta&fe of the 
principal Matter § of the Jtalian Schooh of Painting from 
the TTitrtt^nth to tm ICi^hteentk Centuriet inclusive^ adds 
to the great utility of thia unprotending littlo volume, 
and will make the lover of Art rejoice in the vrriter'a 
hop<i of profee<ling with similar Catalogaea of the artists 
of other countricsi. 

{The favour with which the volumes of tho kto Henry 
Gunning's NeminigceneeM of tfrn University^ Twioxi, and 
Conttity of Q3imbridg€i were received^ not only by Uni- 
versity men, bat alao by the general public and the 
press, speedily e^xhausted the first edition. A second, 
iomewhat enlarged, and yet cheaper edition, has now 
mp]>eared ; antl will no doubt mnn fmd \U way into tho 
llaDdtof all who like to hear aii old man gossip of the old 
lixn^ in which he lived, and the well •^ known men with 
%bom be aiaockted. 
The interest we take in every endeavour to make more 
popalar, and more generally known, the writings of the 
Father of Enjilish Poetry, wo til d aloni> di^pta^e ua to np+'ak 
well of Mr. Bell's edition of The Poetical IForkg of Geoffrey 
Chttme€r, of which the Firit tad Second Volumes aru now 

before us. Bnt Mr. Bell, who baa adof^ted aa lus text the 
Harieian MS. of the Canterbary Talet, from which Mr, 
Wright printed bis venrion, baa the merit of illastrating 
his author by a masa of Notes which will go far to make 
him M popular and we!l onderstood as he de»er%'c9 to be. 
Why, however, docs ho omit that useful, tliough slight 
addUion — numbering the linea of the poem? 

Whilst on the subject of old pt>etrv,let us mention that 
we have received from Messrs. Wil^ams & Norgatc the 
First Part of a collection of the pscudo-SbakApeariaii 
Dramas, edited by Dr. Del inn, whose familiarity with our 
langua£« and Klizabcthan literature k remarkable — 
eupecially in one not to the manner bom. His edition of 
Edward the ITiird^ an Hittorical Play^ haa but one defect; 
being intended for readers of English, its Introductioa 
should have been iti the English language. 

We have before as two or three books of amnitement, 
which we must perforce dismiss in a few words. First let 
us mention aa of deep interest, and, we may add, of muck 
inatruL'tion as a pictiure of the times, Fhrine, a Tale of 
th9 FiTit CtuMode^ by B. W. MacCabc. As we have no 
dottbt every incident it contains, however startling, haa 
its counterpart in some cotctnporary chronicle, we wish 
the learned and able writer had added to the value and 
um of his book bv a few references to hi» authority. — The. 
Moute and her 2'riViwfi Is a fresh contribution' to our 
nursery literature from German aonrcea, for which the 
" spelling '* public arc indebted to an old friend, John 
Edward Tavlor. — M^Jiier and Son, the tlrst of a new 
series of Tohtfor the Young Men and Women of England^ 
will make all who read it look out anxiou&Iy for the re- 
mainder of the aerie*. 

We have good news for all our friend? who have li- 
braries; Meifisr?* Letts, whose calendars and diaries are in. 
everj'body*s hands and everyhody^a pockets, have pub* 
liahed a iXirvsi of Ctdahigue tftht Library of — — , which 
must iMjfore long be on everjbody'a library table. It ift 
so constructed thnt one may see at n glance the xhelf or 
mark^ au//ior, editor or translator^ title^ edition^ coli., tize, 
date^ ptace and jmbtisher, coMt^ remarks; and what to the 
good-natured h a column of no small moment, when and 
to tehovi (att^ Sfc. 

It may lie useful to such of our readers as have an* 
thority to consult the Documents in the State Paper 
OlUce, to be informed that, by a recent regulation, that 
office is now open evert' day in the week between the 
hours of ten and three oViock* 

Mr. Lilly announces for early publication, in two vO' 
lumes octavo, lite Life of Bitkfyp Fisher^ by the Rev% J. 
Lewis, author of the Life of Wicktijft with ail Appendix 
if lUuttToiive Documents, and an Introductioa by the late 
Mr. iluiUon Turner. 




MiM SrnicKtAife't lawmt or rirn QuiiKt 09 EtntuAno* Vol, H* Of 

It Vol. fidlUan. 
lM(H)Lut»r Lmttattm. Ynl. L Flrtit Edition. 
BooiBTT or Art*' JoeftA^u No. 30. VoL I., and Vf<M. bZ. »(> k M. 

Vol. U. 
Tnm IStbut Mah^b M^aAtrn^fl fbr 1770 KoA 1771. 

*•• Lelt«ni, rt*thi£ii*rticuUri iiiid Ipweit prtct, «V7r^fl*/c^i.*o„bf 

nf p 

pent to Mm. B«l_ 
!««. rieel silr«eu 

FublUber of "NOTKS ANU l^t'Ii^llLEa/ 

Pirttcuflftri of Prin, Irit. of tb« fbllo^nt Booki to be aent dln^et 
th« tfrbtlfsmen by vbum thitr an 1 ■ ■ - 

drMHTB »r« gi van lor that purpo&t t 


and whota n«ixiei «D(i »d- 

Wau.i'i Q,crjLiiTBKi.T F^jAiu ojt Ame«irKTtrA>< Part I,'» GcrTKTC AllCnn-BCTOII.B» FkiiS. 

Pvom'a ExuirLM or Qonuo Aakemnttnvmw. Fidti 3 a 4 of V«t« 
Wu(«d bf /Ma Bebb, 9, LavrwDOi-Femitofir Last* 




Pfo. 271. 

Snrmv-rt't Canoxitiji or fiwaji^iru^ 

ro. Ft*Dt«d tqr Beatl«r. IfMSi 

Wanted hr ft. Thortfum, J. CkrthuiitD 0tnet. 

Bacwue • Wnns*. VoU. L VI. XTtt. VHI. II 

tmo^ XiOodoa, I70&. 

Wutcd by iter. Dr, Todi, Lltarmriaaof ISilollr OoillWiOBfalfa. 

Co Currr^onUcnti* 

. JTiii «K HpAf Ai MiiM*^ r*a^ " N- ft Q," i* /o«i«/ lo b<r qf mm to 
Um^flfmemaitiiktpanorfiteriitutr, cuui £Aat nu^A wv i> eominiaiMrwM 

i Jbr rrptitliakiimt mUk a fun ulitraliaiu, the. foUawin^ p a/ r^grv^h, 

** It fiobvlowf thaA itm vmvtm paper MV* * KoTr* ajtd Qcsaisa ' bvan 
»41tcciI prapDrttea lo tbt ttaMnt of it* ctrctJlaUoo. What it aiimat 

afid aft«r an intereirLiiiir iiuesthin hu been dlMnned flir wteki in oiar 
aetanrna, wv are Enfurmrdi of tamv odc iMftoomiid. liAW amweitMl it bor- 
tn«dlat«ljr if lie had torn it. Bo lun? a« thia U theeace, the advamagtr 
mmay aattlkr «paQ literatuir anit tit«rvnr hmo toTMatiwIty Imi^rfcct, 
W» do wtkat ir« eao to maJtc kno wo our exi«t«iiea thrMick Iht vuttammrj 
niod«« or amtotmorttifnt, sckd wv cratefbl ly admowttdtifethe k i&d wMbi^ 
■wv and viteotirapviimi «■ d*riv» ftm^oar IwthMB o# ifaa 0uWI« 
E hut we would rmteetfutlr tolklt the airittaDee of oar Aivndi 
' - - ir oaefbtnan 

pftpvr, eflbor 
dhAfinftl oC ebk 
By ttich iutro- 
■ rMmlrvf 
klhr abb to throw llclit 
dMCiMipdln our 1 1 Ml I ** 

to a Book ilitab, to • t vwdliif 
etilatfao amofwvttikraooa of I 

upon liil* particular poiat. Oar parpaar la aidad, «iMl ovr oaefbti 
incrcMcd bjr vinerr fntrcKloctiao wbich can be ylvcD to 

^ . tiaraooa of luqnSrr and loteUifcoaa^ By 

diictiana adKilarw belp tHnnsefvet a* Wall ar n, fbrflMfvla no In 
lhrotigtio«t th« kliuilofn who la not oooaakmi 
npen tonM of Uie mulUfiLriotu ob^eda whkh an 

tejOTraai, leAo cudbt rtMptctiitg Hiitory far Fhtkaofiky tMrhlni: hrm^ 

W. T.Ib r#lt 4«ofaaeaHy/a(in (if /Vifiei/MXfiAiMiTirif 

J. W, JL. B. wiUjtnd a wnr t«|pine#«»*»p jVotr ow 

■* The Modc<( Water aaw It* G od and bliuh'd *" 
in Vol. vi.< p, 3A^ iiir4r otto Vol , TiU . , p. y«y, 

Ihditx vo Toi^rvii the Tanrii it im the ihaiuit qf fiM PHtttm-^ 
bf imumt at Iat«<( teith cAc JVttiA^ ctf .SaMniair tJu VUh . 

IR». iVo. I6t, ^pon a^ipUaatiomto Mn. BaLt^ iA« l^tbHAafk 
Koraa ah a Qtraaia*/* Volt. I. to Ik., w-^riyfVv 


*^ SivTKi 4KD Qeaarat" <f p mW Mi tgJ at mom tm Fritiav, ao clMBf Iftt 
/htoJbrOarr nMy raoadw Capim i* that iu0i4i> par««|», mb 

^ i tlia laatnins wbida tiaa Bi:aii«tnt aot oniy thrmushoui 

mnrr part of onr own ooantrjr, bat aJI ovrr ihc titirary worloT and 
to briiw tt all to bear upon tiia ^milUofthe (kJioIat ; tii««,ahlt. la 
■Joift HMD of tettaia all o^v tha vorld to u ire a helninc han4 to a«i« 
lier To a certain axtent we haw anc>jinr<U4he^ thii end. Onr 


latkeii* nd onlv fn^m all i:)Art* of tb« 

^ _, — iinijr in Ku^la - - - - 

IHlaod. bat thtm alnioat cforr quarter irf ihr iflrjbr. 

VCtiiHmlU, and /him almoii evarjr oounijr In I 

Kusland, fw<'t1ftn(l, i 

. -_. , , jlfjbe. Thi* looki welf. 

■ aaiif waworataiaiairwajrtoa«eompliih0i]rri«Bvn. Bnt tnucb 
a Iv be done. We bavt rcfcntljr boca Utld of wbule dijtiieta in 

tUihtr'tkem to tktir 9tbiw4htn oa tkt &Blvrclap. 
r *'Not«tAaD Omnia*" u a£io ismia d im Monlhlr Fart«*ybr tJNoii^ 
Bwwfcwc c q/" »<>*» i''^ "H>v «*t*arilaPia<fi^tdfiria proeatiM» iftc «i> 
Mannmi iMeUiv Xun^n^ar j»vArraeanriao if nM»«fAIy, ir^tjie pmttm 
rmUknt in tk* eomntry or ofrnaad,«o*a mt0 hf '-• 
nwet/r yamfrm.may Acu« itamp»d OMM* / 
FMi^htr, Tht tulmcriptkm M t^.mV*' Nmn *-• 

fwica /ttr #WJ faciM(A>. taA/cA faa|r be paid iw !'<'>'" f.ipr, < mtrr, itruwn. m 
'-— ^ ^ {^, paUMar, Ma« aaoaaa BatL, No. iaa, Fleofc siknek. 

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thtlr Eatahllahmcni eomprkce erei 
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Part Im oontalnlnir ** MOXnER AND SON," 
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place no ^ood book* williju their rweh. It to 
ictix'thctn ah apprlltf, and leavo nothlnf id tht 
panlry aavc unwhoieKimc an^t poUfiDuu* food, 
w hitch, iltpend noon \ty ihmg wllleot rmibcr thaa 
rtarye." — S& W, SaM. 
The want of not only oMful but erttertalalitf 
' B, fttBh aa yonnf peoola will read. It it 
will ba anppUed by tlut proncwadaMiii 
will be borne In muut that tlB 

new Ii«t OB HH*^^- 

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Carneraa^ 81 Ideat and Tripodi iis^ ht hadU HbS 
Trada •nppllad. 


[ ft CO.'9 Iodised ColladiQa, for obtaining 
Inrtanlan^otia Vleuv and PorlraHi* in frum 
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POflrmlli nbtainrd Ijt th* abov«« for delioaey 
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eran romaaoc will not ba ffaiiR»ttea. in tumi 
that the raadar mar be lad mmMf on to imk 
mora and nMm, aD4 Inhibe iboad priadplli, 
aad a rvTrirnce for thing* trae and holft 
inatcud of the InMrEity and anchrlatlan tniflB 
tnit which i« too often Ihe intent of manjr boohi 
now in cirtoiolio'n^ 

Ther will he- IwijotI in n.LTrSTttATRD 
SHUXlNfJ MtJbTTULY PARTS, in the awae 
funn M Viv MrHi-Jiior FARIX IIIAL TRACrS. 

j^tib««rlber*' Namct rccelred by all 

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PHoe l«M bj Poat u, M. 

CESS of OrSTAVE LK Gil AT iTranalalad 
from thf French*. T* thS< haa ht9u vdAiela 
Ni-w Modiflca h-n of iKe l'r.jn-M, hj arhl«h the 
Time of Exporare in tlir r<vmt'ra i« reidticed to 
one-^hurth, hy JAMKH HOW, Aaalatanl In 

I tlie Phlloaophical ^itabllihment of the Po^ 

I G^QRQE KNIGFT » ?«OKfl, Poatcr laMi. 

JjUf. la- 1856.] 





RcmJing Macaulay^s Criticai Essafftt, I perceive 
that in l«30» when reviewing Southej^'s Coihqmes 
on Society^ be has said: 

" T^t thnm ft(W to all thts the ftict, that l%()m person » 
miffered death by the hands of the executioner during the 
rei*(ti of Henry VllU and judge between the nioeteeath 
and thte Aixtoetith century'.'* 

Whether Mr. Mncaulay's subspquent mora ex- 
tentive historical reseftrchea would let him still 
call th;it a/a<7/^ t cannot presumr t<^3ay. But it 
is not<>ric>u?^ly referred ta as a fact, by pupular 
spoflkers «r writers, from time to time; antl your 
useful publication b favourable to having the 
question so ventilnted as eiiher to put an end to 
toe af>uinption of this imajiiriary proof of the 
ferocity of English tribunals temp. lien. VIIL, or 
to elicit some tru«tworthy evidence of its being 
a fact. 

To unreflectinrj readers of English history It 
may be enough thsit II nine has said at tl»c close 
of hist account of Henry VII L, ch. 33. : 

"Th* jirCnouerA in thfkinLjtloni for debts and mmes are 
asfiertcd in an act of parliarai^nt to b« *^i>,Oou periionii and 
above; which ifl scarcely credibk. Harrison aMcrti that 
72tOU"U criminals wens executed during ihia reign for ihefl 
and robLvfy^ which would amount nearly to 2,0 OU a 

The credit due to such an assertion as the first, 
from its hitving been iritioduced into an act of 
parliament f can diifer very little from the credit 
due to its independent probability. For so gross 
was the ignoruiice of national btatistlfs prevttlent 
in that a^je, that an observunt and cfHk^^cientious 
member of the inns of court, Mr. Simon Fi»h, 
could {rravely lell thepublit% in his ndted address to 
ILinry VI I £,^ styled The Supplication of BefCi^Qrs^ 
that there were 5*2,000 parish churches wtthin the 
realms of England, antl could found umm this 
ttaternent a uieth^Klicul caleulution of considerable 
importance, whilst uMidern returns reduce the 
number of parishes below 11,000, 

As to Hiirristjn's at^^ertion in the Historical 
Treatise uppended to Holinshed*8 Chronivits^ I 

kVC not seen it for some years, and have not access 
it it pretsent; but unless my memory deceives 

e, he rnnde the assertion on no better authority 
iban thnt of the Bishop of Tarbes whomFranris I. 

nt to England ; that prelate's dislike to H«*nry's 
^ oceedinjjs, and to the anti-psvpal stpirit r»f our 
tiatinti, made him but too willing to believe any 
slander ajainst eitlier. Whilst the t«le suiia 
rison*^ object, which was to »et forth the advan- 
tages enjoyed by Elizabeth'sjubjects, the progress 

of wealth and civilisatfoo, lis compared with their 
slate under her father's reign. 

When we come to the earliest authority for any 
historical statement, it is always prudent to con- 
sider whether the author could have known what 
be states to be true. There ia no probability that 
Henry's parliament had required such returns 
from all the gaols in the kingdom as would entitle 
its assertion respyclin^ the number of prisonen 
to the weijiht belong ing to any modern official 
document; ntjither is there any probability that 
a French bishop could have made any nearer ap- 
proximalion to the number of executions than ft 
conjecture, even if he hud desired to keep within 
the truth. 

The estimate of the populntion of England at 
that date must also be acknowledged to rest upon 
grounds which are far from being indi>put^ble. 
But it has been made without any motive for 
arrivinjj at a false conclusion; and it jus^tiliea the 
belief that the population was rulher under than 
above 3,000,000, and consequently the number 
of males not more than 1,500,000'; who must be 
a^^ain reduced to about a half, or 750,000, to 
obtain the number of males between 21 years and 
70. Imprimmraent for debt is nearly bndted to 
this lust pi^rtion of the people ; and imprisonment 
for crimes fell almost as exclusively on the 
game, when the offences visited by the law were 
chiefly crimes of violence, or sheep and deer steul- 
injf : so that if 60,tK)0 persons were in priE«on for 
debt and crimes, at least 55,000 of them, would be 
adult mules, that is<, abiujt one adult male out of 
every fifteen ; untl if 2000 were executed yeurly, 
when so many felonies were but punished with 
whipping, provided the fehm conhl repent his neck- 
verse, tme rmt of every 375 men must be believed 
to have fallen annually by the executiouer^a baudfl. 
Are we to believe this ? 

The letters from a iuatice of the peace to Lord 
Burleigh, tFiven in the Appendix to vol. iv. of 
Strypes Annah^ Noii. 212. and 213.^ eon tain siime 
remarkable guol statistics for the county of So- 
merset. According to him, forty persons were 
executed ft*r oflTences in that county in 1596; 
and he complains grievcmsly of the hardship 
inflicted an I he county by its being obliged to 
expend 73^, on (he reiiefof the prisoners, (o whom 
they yet allowed but at the r;jte of 6// a week. 
The inifirisonmeuts must have been therefore 
generally brief. Hkkst Walter* 


(Continued from Vol. x., p. 380.) 

At a gen end council held by the grand master 
William de Villarett A. d. 1302, the sev<?ral dig- 
nities which then ejiiated were parlkulaxly uaax^- 




tioned, and m the followin^r nrdnji-r first c:uue 
tb*3 m;rning pnnee, and al'tfr Ijlm the maritlialj 
chief Hoapi till Jot, draper, treasurer, and liislly the 
Coiiimaiider of Cyprus. I)e Villurtit was so exiiit 
in his government nt this period, that he tiot only 
established the rejipu'LHlve ranks of UU officers, but 
aUo made known the number of servants and 
Attendants whrnn tliey should hiive in their acr- 
^Jce, find the animals which they were exjiected or 
onipelled to own. If h shouhJ he obiserved that 
Tn the above list fto men! ion h made of a Tarco- 
polifer (ir admiral, the o mis.-* Ion ia eiinily exphiitieO* 
At the period now referred to, the liospitidlers 
and Templars were guest;* of the kin^ of CT.-prns, 
a mnnareh so jealous of his sovereignty, that he 
would permit nn interferenee in the jrnvet'nment of 
his subjects, or the proteetion of hi* i*lMnd.* Hud 
a Tureopolier been naniN'tl, there wotdl have been 
no duties far hiai to perform ; and bad Lhe adsniral 
been menlioneib be bml nt* fleet to Cf>niun\nLl, 
Hence tbeir omisision from the list of oflScers then 
known in the convent. 

The gifteil author of Eofhen thus poetically 
notices tlie place which for fourteen years had 
been the island home of the Kni«ihts of St. John 
after ihcir expulsion from tlie Holy Land i 

*' Cypras i» beaatiftil : from the cAgc of ihc rich flowery 
fields'on which I trod, ta ih<j mi^livrtv sides af the strnwy 
Olympus* the ground could only hfre tind there shuw an 
ftbrupt crag, or ahigb strait^hn;^ r'uh^e that u|)«bt>uM^red 
iticir tVoin out of the ivildfrnfu of myrtles and of the 
tbouiiaTid bright leaved j»brubs tlut t^viiied their arms 
together in lovosome tangle*. Tlio air thtit came to my 
lips wns witrai and fragrant aa llicambroitiat breath of iht! 
godd<.'43 mftictiuii me, — not (of cmrs*?;) with a faith nf the 
aid rthifion t»f thu isle, but with a nensi; and apprtdien- 
■ion of it* mystic power, a pouf^r that still was to hn 
<lbeved — ob<?ycd by i7tf, for why otlierwi'^c did I toil on 
with soiry homwis to where for Her the hundred altars 
glowed with Arabian ineenjie, and breathed ia tho fra- 
grance of garlands ever fre^sb. 

*^ ulii templum illi, conlumqne Snbajo 

Thure c&leut htk, gertisque reL'entlbus hbbnt,' 

jEneidf i. 41a." 

In 1307 Fnlk De Villaret became Grand Mnster 
on tbu deecase of his brother, and at a time when 
the Knights «f St. John, tjreatly n-?i^ted by the 
Genoese and Sieiliansr were enijiiiicd in a d>'*pi^rate 
strniJ'ile for the po^ession of Rbcnles. Early in 
the folio win;j year tbis be^uiritnl inland was cap- 
tured ; f an important conquest, which not on' 


• 4"ft[>tain Graves, of the Koyal Xavy, t© whom m iu 
presi'len^ and to Mr. limes ita secretary, the Literary 
and Seientifi'-* Ifistitute of thii* jjiland h so much indebted, 
not only for itj» existenoc, hut also for iu piej<ent dourish- 
1n;5 coaditioH^ has a Hbtory of Cyprus now c|uil« ready 
for publication. To thii work Captain Gravw has given 
bis continued and coiutant attention for several yeart^ and 
its appearance may therefore be looked forwardi to with 
much int«rest,as a'valuable contribuLioii to the literature 
of the day* 

t HiDtoriaas differ as lo the prptisc period in which 
the capture of Rhodes took place. Knolles baa stated, in 

giive to the HospitaUers an a^eeabte residence for 
more than lwt> centuries, but also enabled them t^^ 
raise a bulwark against the eticroachments of tl^| 
Ottoman emperors, which for this long period, wtt^l 
their whole power, they could not overthrow. Ju 
lo-*8, twenty years after the Order of St, John^ 
was established at Rhodes, tt is clearly ebown 
the records that a Turcopfdier existed in the coO 
vent^and that " Giovanni de Bui bra Ik *' wa^the first 
known Engti>b knight who hehl the di^jnity* From 
this dale until 1(3G0, the ofliee wils uninterruptedly 
filled by Enj^lishmen ; but for what reason it \tm 
tirat granted to one of that language, and ever af 
remained with it, tbeie i^i nothing in the man 
script repoi'is of tlie general chapters whii-b ho 
been carefully referred tn, or ]nd>li?bed historlG 
that we are aware of, to show. Five hundred ye 
n;jo the Order of St. John was composed of ei» 
ditrereiit natioiiSj as ihi'v were termed; and earf* 
Imd its own peculiar dfgnity. Thus, the Grand 
Coniinander» who by virtue of hi:^ oQice was per-^ 
petual prenident of the eomninn treasury, cump|H 
truller of the accounts, superintendent of ator^^l 
governor of the arsenal, and nnister of the ord- 
nance, was taken from the language of Provence. 
The Grand Marsbal, who had the ndlilary com*^| 
maud over all the Order, the Graiul Muster*^| 
hou>ehold only excepted ; and when at sea com- 
nmnded not only the general of the galleys, but 
the grand admiral himi^elfi came froiu the lan^age 
of Auvergne. The Grand Uos pi taller, who had the 
direction of the hnsjjital, was Uom the language of J 
France. The Admiral, who in the grand niar-hal'll 
absence had the cmnnisind of the Roldlery equally 
with the seamen, and con Id claim the right <i_ 
being proposed to the council as general of the 
galleys, whether the Grand Master wished it or 
nf*t, was an Italian. The Draper, or granil con- 
servator, w*bo wa^j charged wiib everything reii 
to the conservatory, as also to the clothing, 
purchasing all necessary articles for the 
and hospital, came from lhe language of Arngoi.^ 
The Turcopolier, who commanded the lig^ht cavalry, 
m also all the guards who were stationed in the 
fortresses near the harbours, or in the castles 
around the ci>afits, and gave all passwords and 
countersigns, canie from Kngland. Germnny^ fur- 
ni;?bed the Grand Bailitrto the Order; and, lastly, 
Castile a Grand Chancellor, who could not fill the 
oilice unless he knew how to read ami write,* 

Having tliese several diLrnities now before us, 
shouM it be naked why itny piirticular honour had 
been granted to tiny particular languagCj it might 
be a question as difficult to answer as that why the 

hii Turtiith llistury^ p. Iti3., that it wjs iti 130^; whil 
CaAttUi, p. S3.t bai) re&orikd that the conciucst was otf 
actually ellfc Led tintil 1311. 

* Vi'le JJoidj^elia's Anchni and Mtalem 3/£i//<i, vol. i 
pp. "241. 24a„ from which work the dignities attached to , 
6ich language are taken. 



.^ -« or 
nl coii-^_ 
ng, andM 

tacned to ^ 

tAK, 13. 1855.] 



Turcopolier had been given to Engliind, which wna 
tbt* tljird in rtink in the convept. It is not im- 
probable that, at the foundatiou of the Order, t|io 
Gran<l Master selected those gjsind crosses to dll 
the diirerent t)niees according to the ability evinced 
by them to f>ei form their respeckive duties, Jind 
this without the least reft? rence to the eountij 
from wlui'h they came. Among Englishmen at 
the present time, the cavulry is a fkvourite service ; 
and thus it may have been with their ancestors 
when the taste could be jrratificd. h\ this way 
perhaps the rea>ian may be explained why the 
com m And of tiie ll^ht horse was always confeiTed 
on knights of the iiriti&h ton*rue. 




PK The foUowijig letter, addreased, by Joanna 
■ 'Baillie, "To Mr. Collett, M!j>.tpr of the Aca- 
demy, Eve^hftiu, Worcestershire," may interest 
some of the renders of *' N. & Q/' The original 
is in my possession : 

^_ " Hsmpstead, June IBth^ 1801, 

B "Sir, 

" Tho* r am not altogether pr(?parf»d to answer 
the' questions you hnye put to me in the letter 
I huve hiid the honour of recei^'in^ from you, 
there is something in that letter so very flattering 
to the vanity which authors are not sutfered to be 
without^ th»t it will not permit me to be silent. 
After the lenttj and forhearnnce £ have met with 
from ihe pubbc, I shouhi bold myself bound in 
gratitude, bad I no other motive, to continue^ in 
the best maimer I am able?, tli^ plan I have bej^un 
in * the Series of Plays.* When I shall have it in 
my power to publish another volume, I am not 
certain, but I hope it will be some time in the 
next spring. It has given me great fiatisfiiction 
to learn that you have received any pleasure in 
reading the first. 'Withnut being vidn enough to 
guppnge that a work, with so many faults on its 
bead, has been honoured with your entire appro- 
bation ; to have a voice of such respectable autho- 
r*ty at all on my side, is highly gratifying to, 
** Your obliged humble servt. 
'*J. Baii^lie." 
Mr. Collet t, to whom this letter was addressed, 
WIS a schoolmaster at Evesham, and afterwards 
at Worcester. He published a volume of juvenile 
poems, and also some Sacred Draimis, 'There is 
a short notice of him in Chambers's Biographical 
lUutiratiom of WorceUershire ; but I nave not 
the work at hand to give pai-ticulars. He died in 

' iai7, H. MAfiTIN. 


I have before me a common -place book of I lie 
rei'jns of James I, and Charles L, contalniiij^ the 
gatherings of a mottt discursive reader. It con- 
sists of scraps of history, songs, bon-mots, 
epifiram^, " cabsdisticall verses which by trans- 
posit iL>n of words, letters, and sy I bibles, make ex- 
cellent sense, otherwise none at all," &c* The 
greater number of the pieces I am able to identify, 
but there are others whieh^ as they are nesv to 
me, I I ran scribe, that your more erudite readers 
in-Aj inform rae whoite they are. If too well known 
to claim insertion, I sliall be obliged by a brief 
reply as to their authorship. 

** The Cryer. 

** Gofxl fnik, for gold or hyer, 
Come help wee tn a cryer, 
For my puore heart i» gone aetrAv 
After luT liuart thut went this way. 
licMSi yc-^! hoc yoBl 

'* If there hee any man, 
III towne or country, ean 
Help mt'e my heart againe, 
ril pfea.'^ him for hh paine; 
And by thrse marks 1 will yon show. 
That only 1 the heart doe owe, 

" It wafl A true heart, and a deare, 
And never us'd to rome; 
Bat havini^ gat this tisrino I fcare, 
VVill hardly stay at home. 

" For God'sake, WBtking by th© way. 
If you my heart doe see, 
Eilhtr impound it for a straj'. 
Or >+end it back to mee.'* 

That such language as tlie f^allowiog should 
have come from " a great papist," is explained by 
remembering that, about the time of the present- 
ation of this new year*s giil, the negociations le- 
bttive to the match between Charles and the In- 
fanta of Spain, and the visit of the prince and 
Buckingham to Madrid, had led to a somewhat 
sudden relaxation of the harsh statutes against the 
CatholicSf who had great hopes from this alliance. 

" Venex ttritfcn on a rich cuision which was given to the 
JtiVi/? Iftf Lady Cannisby (t)^ a great Papist, for a AW 
Vftresr^ifl, 1624. 

•* The Solomon of pe«c<», life's liviag bred 
X» only ht and under him our heade, 
Hi?« faithfull Kteward, James, Greata Brfttain's king,' 
Pregorves and feedes hJB people, from him spring 
Plent}' and peace ; above all moa&rk^ blest; 
Of good the greatest, and of great the beat," 

** An anagram maik aj»n the Prince upon hit assurance 
with the ladg qf France. 

*• CharlcH, Prince of Wales, 
Will choM France's pearl.^ 

Polpcrro, Cornwall. 

T. Q. C. 



The following notes on a small parcel of acftrce 
and curious tracts lately come into my possesion, 
are Jit the service of any readt^r t:ikiiig deliglit 'm 
such matters. They may acrve as the commence- 
ment of what is much needled — a descriptive cata- 
logue of the rarer tracts of the perlcwi, 

l. **The Infjwicte of the Soule : or the SouIg of an 
Infont Gathered from the boosonie of Trueth» Begunne 
in Loiie, aiifl fimahcd iti the desire to profit others. By 
Wiilinm Hill. Imprintal iit London, by W» W*. for 
C. Knight, and am ttv 1^ »(dde at hm abop in Paule* 
Churchward at tho Signs of tUe Holy Lambe. 1605. 4to." 
Ko pajijiiitttion. 

Upon a tly-leaf is written, in the hand of the 
period : 

** Nou6mb«r y* 2&, 1620. 
**^ In the Riuer Seaem wu the greateit flood that euer 
wa^ Binue the flood of Noah \ there wa* drowned it Hom- 
tone4 Loade [Hampton's Lode] 6^ persona aathey whar« 
gumg to BewdJy Faire." 

2. " Vox Coeli, or Newes from If esiven^ or a ContuUa- 
iion there held hy the high and mighty Frincegf King 
Hen. 8., King Edw. 6.^ rrince Henry, Qucene Marj% 
Qneene EUzabeth, and Qoeeoe Anne; wherein Spainea 
ambition and treacheriiMi to moet Kingdomes and free 
estates of Evrope, are vn masked, and truly reprcftejitcd, 
but more partactUarly towards Bagland, and now moro 
especially -^Tider the pretended match of Prince Charles, 
with the Infanta Dona Maria, VV'riiten by S. R, N. J. 
Printed in EtUiura. 1624." 4to. 60 pp. 

All the membera of which Conaultation^ except 
Queene Miiry^ prognosticate ruin to England, and 
misery to " Baby Charlie'' if the alliance is formed, 

3. **Hi5 MaJBStiea Declaration, concembg His Pro- 
ceedings with Hia Siihjectf of Sootland, since the Paeifl- 
caiion in the Gamp neerv Berwick, London, 1G40/' 4io. 
63 pp. 

Fioely engraved portrait (half-length) of Charlea 
as frontispiece. 

4. ^^The Replication of Master Glyn, in the nime of 
all the Commons of England, Co the generall answer of 
Thomas Eark of AtraObrd, April 13, 164 L London, Printed 
164L" 4to, 19 pp. 

5. **Tba last L>«claralion9 of the Committee of Eatatea 
now asBemhled in ScotUud. Edinburgh, Printed bv 
Evan Tyler^ and reprinted at London, 18 Octob. Ki-iS.'* 
4to. 24 pp. 

6. « A Kerelfttlon of Mr. Brigtman*f Be^-elatlon. Printed 
in the yet:re of fulfilling it, 1641." 4ta 37 pp, 

R.C. Wabdb. 



Sir F. Thofiger aaserted the other day, tn the 
Court of Queen's Bench, that the word meindh 
mm not to be found in any EnglUh dictionary 
good or bad. 

Lawyers are flimoui for bold asaertionsj and it 
is their goo<l luck to escape unharmed, however 



erroneous those assertions may prove. They all 
go to the account of zeal for their clients. 

Sir Fredcriclc is most singularly unfortunate in 
this particular instance. Lord Campbell inter 
rupts him^ and tells him it is in Richardson^i|| 
and adds, *' It is not in Johnson's," And this " 
true; but it is in Totld, who quotes from Jutuea' 
Military Dicliormr^j. And ft*r swindler he aIj 
refers to Asirs Supplement to his Divlionary^ pub- 
lished in 1775 : tSwindle^ iSwindler^ Swindlitig^ are 
all in Smart*ii Walker^ remrKlelled. 

Ma^on^ in his Supplement to Johnson^ published 
more than fifty years n^o^ says that a windier is a 
** modern colloquial w<»nl." And farther, the 
learned knlt^ht might h;ivc found it in a dictionary 
by a member of his own profession, as a word re<;^ 
cognised by the law of the land ; in that by l^bv^l 
Tomlins, who treats us with the exiiuisitely re- 
fiot'd legal disfinction between the word spokg% 
and the word wri^n, as actionable or not action- 

Richardson says, the time and manner of ii>tFO»,M 
duction reffuire to be ascertained. His own cxa^f 
ample *' of the scandalous appclhition MwindUr'* ft 
from the Essays of the Rev. Vii.esinius Knox, 
which were published at least eighty years ago. 
That author deeervei now to be remembered, if 
one of the earli^t advocates for the improvement 
of acatlemic education. Tlie probability is, that 
there h not now in use a sinj^le Englii»k dictiouuj 
that does not contain these words, 

I remember hearing the late Lord ErakuMb 
when in hii( zenith at the bar, denounce the word 
derange as not English, It wasi not in Johnaon ; 
nor was it^ though now m all our dictianariea. 
(See Todd's Johnson, and Richardiion.) In England 
men were not formerly derangnd* The clown, in 
Hamlet^ tells US they were mad* Q, 

Blooms bar)% 


^£nar ^atti- 

** Travene,"* — The omission of a comma in 
Dr. Johnson's copy of Milton, apparently gave 
this word the place among prepositions which hfl 
and most subsequent le^ticographers have conceded 
to it. Johnson a folio has ^ 

"TRAVBilt^ adverb (^ travtrt^ Freneh), crosawiMj 


•* TaATSltaE, prtp, through, croaawiae." 

the Utter with a quotation from ParadUe Loti 

(L 569.), pointed thus : 

« He through the armod files 
Darts hh experienced eye^ and aoon travtrm 
The whole h:ittaUon views their order due.** 

Ash, referring to Milton as authority, borrotra 
Jobuson's definition^ but inserts a comma between 

Jan. 13. 1855.] 




le two wordsj -^ tiiroii;;li, crosswise," Sheridjin 
_^ ives the same dcfiiiition. \Vol>ster, aa if to make 
the blunder mi>re appiiretitj sultstitutea a aemi* 
colon fur the comma, and defines ^'Tbaveksb, 
prep. thrnu;^h ; cros^wiae," citing MilCon'fl linoft, 
poihted a^ in Julinaoii. 

The e^irliest etlition of tlie Parodist Lost which 
I have at hand (1088), ha-* a coioma aft^T " views/* 
in the li n e ci ted, St) h a* Ne w t o ri*3 ed i ti on ( 1 7 49 ) , 
Bentley^ Todil, and nearly dl recent editors of 
Milton, place a serai-colon there : 

" And soon traverse 
The whoh^ hattalioii views j their oniur due, 
Their visiig^a and statures m of gCKl'S." 

This painting, which ta obviouftj the more correct, 
restores traverse to its proper place amon^ the 
adverbs, and takes away the only authority on 
which its cK^easianal use an a pirepo^itioo rests. 
Dr. Johnaon^ it will be observed, inade but one 
blunder, where subsequent lexico/rrapbers have 
contrived to make itco ; for " traverse,'* if a pre- 
position, wouhl be corret;tIy defined by *^ through 
crov^swise." But Webster, by 3C|)arating the two 
worda of this definition, has (alien into the ab- 
surdity of defining a supposed preposition by an 

"verbj '* crosswise/* VEfiTAua, 

Ilnrtford, Connectkut. 

Milton M DeicriDtioh i^f Rome. — Would it not 
he well that Mr* Murray, in hi* Guide to Central 
Italtf, on introducing the Eiiglitsh traveller into 
Kome, 5?bould open the scene with the general 
description of an English poet, who hifoself wrote 
from recollect ion of the spot ; I mean, of course, 
Mikon : 

I** A rivet of who^ bAnkt 
On each side an imperii*] eity ^iood. 
With tow'rt and lemples pruudly elevtta 
On seven small hills, with palaces adom'd, 
Porches, and theatro.s haiks 3qneduii!ts, 
Statues^ and trophies, and triiimpiiHl ares: 
. lliere the Capitol thou see^st 
Above? tbft nest lifting his siately head 
On the Tarneian rock, her citadel 
Impregnublti i and there Mount Palatine, 
The Lmporial palace, compass huge and high 
I The atmcture^ Kkill of noblest arcliitecta. 

With gilded hattlemeflta conspiruoiia far, 

^^_ Tumsts, and terraces, and gUtterm^ ^pirea 

^K l'heno« to the ^at«a coat round thine eye, ajid tea 
^^K What coadux lasniog forth, or entering la ; 
^^V Pr«tors, pro-couskib to thdr provinces 

^^B Hasting or on return 

^^M' Or embassies frofn regions far ramole, 
In various habits, on the Appion road, 
Or on the Emiliaa." 
^^1 Paradiie R^atned^ book iv. 

^H There are few Engllahmeji of taste who will 
^^■Dt have rea4l or repeated these lines, as they 
^Hbued on the icene described from the campanile 
^Bf the CnpitoL Wm. Ewakt. 

^P Custom ohsermd la drinking at public Feattn. -^ 
In ** N. & Q,/' Vol. 4t*t p. 307*, i^ mentioDed tho 

custom at Queen's College, of plaelug the thumbs 
on the table white the superior* driuL The fol- 
lowing custom has been ^^b-iervetl from time im- 
uaeuiorial, ami still is, at dinnr^rs ijiven by the 
mayor, or at any public feast of the corpor>ilion of 
Lichfield. The first tv^o toa?^t3 given by the 
mayor are *' The Queen," and ** Weale and Wor- 
shifj," both which are drunk out of a massive em- 
boased silver cup, wbich holds three or four 
quEirts, and was presented to the corporation in 
166G by Elias Ashinfile, a native of the citj* 
The ceremony is as follows; — ^Tbe mayor ilriuks 
first, and on his rising the pcrj^on^j on hi^ tijiht and 
left aUo rise ; he then hamU the cup to the person 
on his right side, when the une next to him rii^ea, 
the one on the left of the mayor stilt standing; 
then the cup is pa^scil across the tabli^ to him, 
when ftijf left-hand neighbour rises ; so that there 
are always three r^tartdiog at the same lime, one 
next to the person who drinks, ainl one oppimte 
to him, I pre:4ume that though the ceremony is 
difleronf , the object was the same as that observed 
at Queen's College, that is, to prevent injury to 
the person who drinks. T, G, L. 


Female Rank. — Few, save private friends and 
their frietids, know the hemic conduct of Miss 
Nightingtde in the honpitul at Scutari, which is 
certainly beyond all praise. Not only has she, 
since her arrival, attended all the deatli-be<ls of 
the soldiera under her charge, but she baa had the 
most dangerou:* cases placed in a ri>om next to 
lier own, thut she may be near, and thus enabled 
to render them greater attention. Certainly this 
nobleness will be repaid by the praise of th»s and 
succeeding generations, but oiore especially bj 
the ble&fling of God, Nevertheless, may we not 
ask, why great wotnen t^hould not be rewarded 
from henceforth as great men, excepting, as we 
feel bound to do^ great authors ? Commissiions 
are given away at present to non-commissioned 
officers, and Canrobert la made a C,0, What 
would seem more appropriate, than that this lady, 
who has willingly "iven up the luxuries of private 
life for public good, shoufd be henceforth known 
as Lady Florence Nightingale ? E. W. J» 

The Jirst Dublin Newxpaper. — The following 
paragraph from Gilbert's Hidory of the Cittf nf 
Dublin (p. 17B.), of which the first volume hiis 
lately appeared, may deserve a corner in " N. & 
Q. :•' 

"Thornton issued the first newspaper pabhshed in 
Dublin, vrliich was styletl Tkg DuttOn Xew» Letter, printed 
in lt>95, by * Jo*£yph Ray in CoUegc Gr*;en, fur Robert 
Thornton, at the Leather Bottle in Kkinner Row ; ' it 
consisted of a single leaf of email folio si*e, printed oa 
both sides, and written in tbi^ form vf & letter j each 
number being dated, and commencing v^ith tho word Sit, 
The e£Jsteae« of this publicatioa was totally unknowu to 


[No. 272. 

former writers, ivho anivcrs^allr alleged that P«e'j Oc«ir- 
rencts wju the first Dublin uewspaptT," 




In tlie Ailditional Kotes appended to Nic!iol]8* 
Commciitartf on the Book of Commm Prmjcr 
(p. 8. col. 2. L 13.), tbc following pasaage occurs : 

" In this kaleD<lar, which preserves the memory of 
some zmclent hoi/ men and wumeii that were famous m 
the Clmrch (although iheir days be not now appointed 
by the now sstatutc to be kt»pt lloly D.^ys^ nor wtTc tbcy 
u\\ of them appointed to be kept so before)* there is some 
tlilTereDC« between ihia edition and that of Edward VJ. to 
which the Act of Umfonnity referrctb. In January, 
Lucian and Prisma arc omittpd, with Fabian : m Bast is 
rtd^iod in the fifth of Edxrard VI, In February^ Horothy 
and ?fcf ildrttl arc added. In March^ PcrpctnUt St. Gregory, 
and St. Benedict are omitted ; Atlriaji is added. In ApriK 
Hichnrd and Alphuge art) omitt^tL In May, John Bever- 
ley, Pancrace, HeleuA, Adelina, are added, atid Pcmelle. 
In June are added Edranndp and the Tranislatioa of V.\lw, 
In July, Martin and Swithin. are omittod ; iSeven Sleepers 
are ad«l«d. In August, Xjimo uf Jesns and Beheading of 
St. John Baptist, are omitte^l j Afiwumption of tho Yirijiii 
Mary, Majjnus» Bernard, Felix, and Cnthbert are added. 
In September, Eunarchua [En urchins?], Holy Cross, 
Lambert, and Cyprian are omitted. In Novonibtjr, Brire, 
Machuto, St» Hu;L;h, B. St, Edmund Kiui;, and Cecily arc 
omiltetl; and ThetHjoro is added. In December, O Sapi- 
ent ia and Sylvester arc omitted, and Osmond is added. 

Till a is an extract from some MS, notes m 
Bishop Cosin's hand writing* It would appear as 
if Biahop Cosin had before him a kiilendftr at- 
tached to a Book of Common Prayer of the fifth 
year of Kin*; Edivard VI., commonly called the 
Second lli>ok of Edward ; beln^ that which, with 
certain specified alteration?, was confirmed by the 
Act of Uniformity of 1 EHz. The edit inn which 
he compares with thiSt and speaks of as differing 
from it^ was that in use prior to IC€2. 

Now the difficulty which leatb me to apply to 
•* N. & Q/' for help, is this : I have ncjt been 
able to find o calendar in any Common Prayer - 
Book of the fifth of Edw. Vl.i or of any other 
year of his reign, which answers to the descrip- 
tion here given. The copies of Edw, VI.'s 
Common Prayer-Books, which I hare met with, 
contain only our red-letter Saints* Days, with the 
addition of a very few black-letter days in the 
editiona of 1552, The cdendar of the primer of 
1553 (as printed in the Liturgies, and other docn- 
menta of King Edw. VI , by tbe Parker Society, 
1844, p. 365.) contains many more black-letter 
dajs than the Prayer* Books, but yet does not 
correspond to the calendar Bbhop Cosin soetnfl to 
have hatl before him» 

What adds to the Interest of the inquiry la, that 
the Puritans, at the Savoy Conference, desired 
respecting Sainta^ Day^ ** that the names of all 

others (Saints), now inserted in the calendar, which 
are not in the first and second books of Edward the 
Sixth, may be left out/* Now Bishop Cosiu was 
an active member of the piirty opposed to the 
Puritans j but in the Bishop's Answer nnihing 15 
said which implies, that any hooks of Edw. VT. 
contained the Saints* Days objected to. 

I shall be grateful to any of p^our readers who 
may be able to point out finy calendar which cor< 
" 2 List of Sainta' Day?, with thai 

responds, in the 
described by Cosin. 



I hope that you will furnish me with inform- 
ation respcctinjT what appears to me a curious In- 
quiry, We all know that the word leech wa* 
commonly used some centuries ago to designate t 
physician^ It was employed in that sense bj 
Spenser, and once (in Timon of Atlientt) by Shak- 
speare, as well as by many other writers. Sir 
Oulwcr Lytton states, in one of the nutes ap* 
pended to his novel Harold^ that the derivation of 
the word htut been perplexin^j to many of tbe 
learned, but that kick is the old Saxon wortl for 
surgeon ; and that it has been trace^l to Ueh «r 
lese^ a body ; a word not signifying, like the pre- 
sent German Leichc^ a dead body. Lich-fe w«s, 
in Saxon, a phyaician*s fee, as I have been III* 

The word has been thought by some to be de» 
rived from a Saxon verb, signifying, like tht 
French lecher^ to smooth or assuage. But what Z 
wish to ascertain is, whether the worm, the blood- 
sucker, tfie use of which appears fast disappearing 
from medical practice, was named from tbe phy- 
sician, or whether the physician was nnraed from 
the little animal ? It is a curious fact, if It can he 
known ; either way showing how great waa tbe 
use of phlebotomy in surgical practice. But how 
great must have been the belief in the benefit of 
these small blood -suckers^ if the healing physician 
allowed himself to be called by the same name! 
We know that the first surgeons were also bar- 
bers. When did the use of the leech corae into 
competition with that of the lancet ? Surely some 
old medical works must contain this information^ 
and would explain if, like many improvement a in 
medical science, the use of leeches was derived 
from the East, C. (2) 


^t'ntir CdufTirit. \ 

Foreign CoUecliani of Floral P&etr^. — UTial 
works are there similar to our Poetry of Fiowerw^ 
and others wilh like titles, in the French, Italian, 
Spanish, and Portuguese f Communications from 
foreign bookaellera will oblige. A. Cbai^lstbts* 

Jan. 13. 1855.] 



A Ryder, — ^Why is an additional clauae added 
to A resoliitioTi» &c. called "a rjder?" I know 
enough of criticism to be aware of tlie cation, tliat 
tLe most obvious meaning of a doubtful word or 
sentence is generally the wrong one. Blacks tone, 
in describing the process of maktng a law, says : 

* The Bill is then ordered to be engrossed, or written 
in strong ^rom band, on one or more long rolts or pnases 
of parchment sewed togflther. Wlien this is finiahed* it 
is read a third time, and amendments are sometimes Uien 
m*le to it; and if a new dause be added, it ta done by 
U eking a s«parat© piece of parcbment on tbe bill, which 
ia called a ryder(^oy^ 84.}-" — Blackstone's C^mi».|book L 

Wm. Feaser, B.C.L, 


** Crakijf of IFar/' — John Barbour, Archdea- 
con of Aberdeen, statea that King Edward III. 
had artillorj in his first campaign against tbe 
Scots in 13!27, and calls the guns ** crakys of 
war/* (Vide 3felrical Life of Robert Brttce^ 
pp, 408, 409.) May we credit John Barbour on 
this subject ? B. A* 

Sestertium. —I fiball be much obliged to any of 
your classical correspondent} who will kindly give 
me some rule for determining the sum of the fol- 
lowing figures. They occur in Cicero in Verrem : 
« HS, To millia - - Act IL 1. 2, 25. 

HS- CT^Cl3 - - - n LS, Si. 

HS. Cl3 - - ' ^14, 17." 


Epigram in a Bible. — Who was the writer of 
the following aaturica! epigram, found inscribed in 
a Bible ? -- 

•* Hie liber est, in quo qiiicrit snn dogmata quisquct 
Invenit et pariler dagmata qoisqtie saa.** 


Eminent Men. horn in the same Year, — The 
year 1769 was singularly productive of great men : 
Wellington; his militarjr rival Soult; the dis- 
tinguished minister during their campaigns. Vis- 
count Castlereagb ; the Emperor Napoleon I. ; 
Chateaubriand; Cuvier; and Sir Walter Scott I 
Can any of the readers of " N. & Q," adduce the 
names of sevea persons equally famous of the same 
age? N. L. T. 

Published Lists of the Users of Hair Powder, — 
Mr. Pitt^ in his butlget, 23rd Feb. 1795, when 
lajring a tax of U, Is. per bead on hair powder, 
aaid the names of all those who wore hair powder 
would be published. {Purl. Hist,^ voL xxxi. 
1313.) Have such lists ever been published P 
If BO, where may they be deposited ? As mention 
has been made of Pitt, perhaps some at your 
readers would tell why the editor (W. S. Hath- 
away) omitted &o many of Pities budgets f I 
refer to the editioa of 1606. M. M. 

Legal Query, — Does 41 George III. c. 73. ex* 

elude the ministers of tbe established Kirk of Scot- 
land from sitting in parliament? Would it ex- 
clude those who have htdy orders in the Episcopal 
Church of Scotland ? ^Vuxiam FBASEBt B. C* L, 
Alton, SUffonlflhire. 

Burial btf Torch-light. — It is an idea very 
generally prevalent that all burials by night are 
illegal, and that none but tbe Royal family may be 
buried by torch-light. A clerical friend informed 
me that the snme statement had been mnde to 
him on the occasion of his U5lng a candle to assist 
him in reading the office at a late funeral. What 
is tlie authority for it ? 

WiLLxAM Fbabeb, B. C. L. 

Alton, Staffordshire. 

^*^ Proverhes Gascon x :'* Translation wanted , — 
Perhaps some correspondent, acquainted with the 
Gascon tongue, who has access to a copy of the 
following work, would kindly supply me with a 
translation (English or French) of the Proverbs 
on pp. 10^1 4. : Anciens Proverbes Bajiques et Gas- 
cons, rtCiieiUis par Voltaire et remis au jonr par 
G,B,: Paris, 1845. A- Cha-llstkth. 

Nitrmts Oxide and Poetry, ^^1 have before me 
a letter written in 1S08, and containing a passage 
to the effect, that a Dr. StanelitTe repeated at the 
house of the wriler*3 father some ** Lines written 
after inhaling the nitrous oxide,'* by a living poeL 
Can any reader of ** N. & Q.** refer nie to the 
lines and their author ? I have heard Sou they 
namcil ; but I find no evidence of the fact in his 
printed poems. Dr. Stanclifle was, I believe, a 
popular (Quaker ?) lecturer on chemistry at the 
period alluded to. D. 

**Whychcote of SL Johns^ — Some years since 
(Vol, tii., p. 302.) I submitted, under the foregoing 
title, two Queries; neither of which has been yet 
answered. As I perceive ** N. & Q.*' has now aa 
intelligent correspondent atNewcastle-upf^U'Tyne, 
to which place my Queries point, perhaps he could 
answer one of them, viz. Who is the author of 
Whifchcote of St, Johns f H. D. 

Latinizing Proper Names t Index Geographtcus, 
Some few years ago a work was publiaheJ, in Lon- 
don, if I mistake not, explaining the manner in 
which modern proper names, more especially of 
persons, ought to be Latinized, according to 
classical usage. Not remembering either the 
title or the publisher's name, I would feed greatly 
obliged if jiny of your able correspondents could 
favour me, through the medium of your vnlunble 
pages, with this information; also with the title 
of the most copious Index Geographicus of the 
names of countries, cities, towns, &c. in English 
and Latin. A Flaui >1aii. 

KewcMtl s-upn-TyiiflL 



Jo. 272. 

Beply to Leslies ^^Ca*e stated." — Can any one 
mform me who is the author of the following work, 
which is a Roman Catholic reply to Leslie : 

•• TbeCiu« stated between the Church of Rome nnd the 
Church of England, In a Second CotiTorsattfin berwrixt 
a RoniaJi Catholick Lord, and a Gentleman of the Church 
ofEnglaiML [■.L1172U 8»/'* 



" Brklgcitntrr Treatises'' — In what jear were 
the Briffgetcatcr Treatises estahlished ? with what 
object, find vrith what endownient? Were they 
limited in ntnnber? and by whom were the sub- 
jects chosen ? Who were appointed as the judges 
of them? C, (1) 

[The Right Hon. and Rev. FniDdt Henrv E^ertoii» 
Earl of Bridgewaler, died in Feb. 182^, and hy bia will* 
datad Feb, 25, 182^^, he directed certain troateeat therein 
imiiod, to invest in the public funds the earn of 8000/^. — 
tbit warn, with the accruiiijg dividends thereon, to be held 
9t the disposat of the president for the time being of the 
Boyal Sodety of London, to he paid to the person or 
p«r9(ntB noTCiinated by him. The testator farihpr direct *?cl 
that the ptrmn or persona selected by the said president 
shooJd be appointed to write^ print, and publish one thou- 
land oopies of a work, "^On the Powpr, Wisdom, and 
Qoodfifla* of God, as manifested in tJie Creation ; illus- 
trntlng each work by all reasonable argnmenta ; sa, for 
instance, the variety and fonnation of God's Creatures in 
the Anirnal, Vegetable^ and Mineral Kingdomi ; the 
offect of Difirestion, and thereby of Conversion i the Con* 
g|ructi<}n of the Hand of Man, and an infinite variety of 
Other Arguments; aj also by Disroveries, ancient and 
mmlern, in Arts and Sdenees, and the whole extent of 
Literj^ture." The late president of the Royal Society-, 
Davicj Gilbert, E«q., reque.4ie«l the assistance of the 
Archbishop of Canteriiury, and of the Bishop of London, 
in determining opoi) the best mo^ie of carrying into etfet^t 
tbe intt^ntion of ttie testator. Acting with this idrice, 
and i.rith the concarrence of a nobleman immediately con- 
nected with the deceased, Mr. Davies GilbeJrt apfKvinted 
the fallowing eight gentlemen to write separate treatises 
on the diflercnt branches of the nubject: — Rev. Dr. Chal- 
mers; John Kidd, M.D*; Rev. Win. Whe well ; Sir Chas. 
Bell; Peter Mark lioget. M.D.; Kev. Dr. Auckland; 
Rev. Win. Kirhyj and Wm. Pront, M.D. It is to this 
Ear) of firidgewater that the nation is indebted for the 
fine collection of manuscripts in the British Museum, 
called the ** Egerton CoUeetioii."] 

" Caucus,'' its Deritfoiioa, — Unde derimtur the 
Ameriean eleetionaerini^ word eauats f Can it 
possibly be from the middle age Latin and Greek 
word eoMcus^ rawMi, Kotmrn^ ft eup or veeael? & 

[• We are inclined to think this work is by Robctrt 
M>inni»g, Profctsor of BumMuiy and Philosophy at 
Dfiuay College. About this time, Dodd states. Manning 
nubtished several books of controversy much esteemed 
Dv the learned : s«e hie Ckurrh HiMtmy, vol. iii. p. 488. 
J^olman, a few years since, republished most of MaO' 
niag'i productions ; and it is probable some clue to the 
authorship of the work noticed by our correspondent will 
be found in these reprints.] 

vessel for receiving voting papers? The Latin 
word is used as early as by St. Jerome and by 
St. Bede. (Ecdes. Hist., \l IG.) I fear this would 
be refitirtig in their term* to n greater degree than 
isi probable in America. But can any of your 
correspondents give a better explanation ? 

John £« Cjuu>axs. 
Tavistock Skpiare, 

[Mr John Pickering, in his VfKabulartft or Collectioa 
of Words and Phrases, which have been supposed to be 
peculiar to the United States (Boston, 1816), calls eauctts 
A cant term, used throughout the United States for tho« 
meetings which are held by the different political parties^ 
for the purpose oC agreeing upon candidate.^ for office, of 
concerting any measure which they intend to ea^rry at the 
subsequent public or town -meet iogs. The earliest ac- 
count he has seen of this extraordinary word is in Gordon*i 
HittoTy of the American RevolutioH, 1788, voL L p. 240l 
Gordon says that raoro than fifty years prevfous to tbi 
time of bis* writing, *♦ Samuel Adams's father, and twenty 
othera, In Boston, one or two from the north end of the 
town, where all ship-bEsinesa is carried on» used to meet, 
make a caucus,** &.c. From the fact that the mectiagi 
were first held in a part of Boston " where all tho ship- 
bnsinses was carried on,** Mr. Pickering infers that oaima 
may be a cornrption of caitlkera, the word meetiHg l)dng 
tinderstood. Mr. Pickering was afterwards m formed CKit 
several gentlemen had mentioned this as the origin of tha 
word. Me thinks be has sometimes heard the expresifoa 
a caitcMs meetint} (caulkers* meeting J. Mr. Pickering aayi^ 
that this cant word and its derivatives are never luedia 
pood writing; although occasionally fotind in the newi- 
papers of the United States.] 

Ballad quoted b^ Bt/r/^m. ^^ Burton (Anahmf 
of Meiancholf/^ part ill, see ii, memb. 4,) quotes 
from a ballad : 

** Tliou honeysuckle of the h.iwthorn hedge. 
Vouchsafe in Cupid^a cnp my heart to pledge," fee 

The reference in the notes ia " S. R. 1600.** Whtl 
does this mean ? A. Challstbtb. 

[The referenco is to one of the satires of Samuel How- 
lands, and will be found in The Leiiinff of Hrmmn Bloc4 
in tht HiHtd-Vaint. With a neiv Morissco, diiHifvd by 
Scaucn Satvrea, vpott the bottom e of Diogenes Tuhbe. 
Lond. 18moI 1600, Satire iv^ 3ig* £.] 

Familtf Arms. — Can any of your readers gi^ 
me any information as to the arms of a fami] 
" Manzy," and the arms of the family *' Prev< 

[The arms of Prevost arc given in Robion*8 j_ 
JTiraW: — "PnEvosT, Bart (Belmont, Ha titJt, 6th I 
1805) az. A dexter nrm, in fease, issuing from the i 
fease point, the hand grasping a sword, erect, ppr. ^_ 

and hilt or j in chief two mullets ar. Crest, a denii^^ 

ramp, az, charged on the shoulder with a mural crown or, 
the sinister paw grasping a sword, erect, as in the annt» 
Supporters (aj^signed by Royal Sign* manual : vide Ga- 
tettet 11th Sept ISIA) on each aide a gr(>nadier of the 
sixteenth, or Betlfordsfalre, regiment ot' foot, each sup* 
porting a banner ; that on the dexter aide inscrib ' ^ 
* West Indies,' and that on the sinister, 'Canada.' 
Servatum tinctrt.** We cannot discover tha 



arma d^H 

Jak, 13. 1855.] 


MeneuiuM, — To whom are we indebted for 
tn 8vo. volume of pamplilets, jmblislied a few 

^jears agoy anri entitled Irfltmd : (he Political 
Tracts ftf Menenim T On their appcaru nee from 

i the prea« they attracted a considerable share ,of 
pubhc fttteniion . Abhba. 

[Ttt«ie remarkable political tracU are attributed to 
Pigbr Pilot Sarkiti in the Catalogue of tho British 

Hamvell, Oxon, — Can either of your correspon- 
dents supply, or give a reference to any work 
containing, i n form nt ion respecting a ruin called 
The Castle in this parish r also a Dr. Gill^ who 
wa» the rector about fifty years ago f N. 

[Some Fu:count of Sir Antony Cope** "gallant hotue at 

Hun welt/* rtt r.etAnd caIIa it, will be tounrJ in tbe Beautiet 

i vfEngtoHdawi Wak$j vol xii. part U. p, 518,] 

OOLnRM TABLE OF LHJfEBUBG (¥oL Y., p. 256. ; 

Yo], yVu^ p. 355,; Vol. x., p. 428.) : ancient 
PrNISBMBNT or THE JEWS (ToL X., p. 126.) 

I have never seen the Vortrefflich Gediiehtni^ 
[«ffr Goitlich^ Regierung, but have n Dutch trans- 
r litionj the abriiiged title-page of whicli la 

' Verhaol van nn?€<!e goplcgedc en nooit gchoordJB Dief- 

atallen, aia To^manientlyk an de zecr beracbte Gonde 

TafeU in *t Hooge Autaar van St. Miobiela Kcrk^ te 

, Iraneiihufg. Dwir M, S> H. iiit de Hoogduita vcrtaaltL 

Amaterdam, 1710, 4to^p pp. 42a." 

The book contains the lives, deaths, and por- 

traiU of twelve leading raembera of a large and 

IfrcU-organised gang of thieves, who operated 

[chiefly on churches nnd goldsmiths* warehouses. 

. The most important of the msmy cases proved 

against them wna the plunder of the gohlen table 

I at Luneburg. Besides the portraits there are — 

[ a frontispiece, in four divisions, representing the 

thief *a career, stealing, spendinir, imprisonment, 

Hanging; an Indian plant called Datura, used to 

produce temporary unconsciousness in persons 

intended to be robbed ; and three folding platen : 

1, The phice of execution at Zell, with the bodies 
of the culprits, showing how each was executed ; 

2. A plan of the gulden table, with the parts which 
were not stripped distinguished in stipple; and 

|8. An engraviog from a drawing of the pictures 
the fable. These speni to have been beautifuL 
[The body is divitled into eighteen compartments, 
iiach illustrating an event of Gospel history ; 
nd on each of the two volets twelve saitJts ore 

How the table got to St. Michaera Church is 
not known. The received tradition wafi, that it 
was made from the gold and jewels which Otto If,, 
in the year 965, won from the Saracens at a great 
battle in Italy* So moDj wtre killed that it bure 

the name of "Pallida Mors Sarecenorum/' yet 
there is no satisfactory evidence that any »ucli 
battle was fought. Another tradition la^ that the 
tabic was taken from the Greeks when they were 
defeated at Apulia by Otto I. Upon these points 
the author refers to ll. Bunting's ^ruratwyche en 
Lunenburgsche Cronyk, fo, 47. \ Meiboroius, Her, 
Oerrn.^ torn, iii, p. 77.; and Wittichindus, Annal* 
I 3. 

The table stowl at the back of the high altar of 
St. MichacFs Church. It was safe on Wednt'sday, 
March *), 1698, <^)n the following Sunday the 
sacristan, going to open the doors, luund them 
forced, and the table stripped of nearly all the 
gold and jewels. Two lists are given ; one of the 
articles stolen, the other of those left. The fix'st 
contains 105 items of enormous value ; the second 
only 21, and those mostly relics in silver or ivory 

In the second folding plate a place marked 
No. 3. Is vacant. The explanation is — 

** Eenig goad, dat Rekcre Koningin vmi in 

sterde van t&it xy*er wei eer ten Siertmd haart hie 

uitatnoomtH^ volj^ens oode ^edenkenis^ zou . v^rd 

hebbeu. Want vermids deze Koningin zinneloo-^ wierd, 
tieeft men dit volgeos het oude erfg^TiichtLS ami haare 
kroctn toegipscbrnveo, en baar vervolgena gera.aden het 
goud aan de Tufel weder te schenkcn ; waar van de 
kniis-beelden, in het tweede vnk van vooren te rt^kcnan, 
en in het tweede van 't laatstc staande, dlo van een tatna- 
lyke bre«te en hoogte waTim, en mat edel gestecnla ea 
p.iierlen bezet« gemnakt zyn ; en in gemelde vakken 
ondcr No. 3. Btoiiden."— P. 377. 

I think there can be no doubt that the above 
relates to the crown mentioned by Paul Ilentzner. 
Who was the "certain qui'en?" At p- 364. the 
author pauses between two executionsi and says : 

" Tegenwoordig will jk dt* oude overleverinir yan oan 
cekere Konitmrinne uit lin^eland niet giuin ouderzoeken, 
dhf van deM' Taft*! lets ttit siernad baarer kroorif^ veraog-fc, 
en tiA dat moo 'er het /eJve tutgeconien b^idJe, eerlang 
ymnehm %vierd, dwrbal^en xy vervolji^fiiM twee goude 
kruis-bcelden van eener grootc, nevena het gowl wc»d«- 
rom zond. Zeker ist, dat er in t*tin bezoiidvre Lyst op 
veele plaatscii iets inf^etiat was, dat raea uit de bfeeke 
kleur, tepens "t antlere grind te rekenen, ligtefyk kott 
merken. Indien *er certyda diergelvks was vorgevallea, 
zoo hadda men reden te denken, dat zulks ten tvde von 
Henryke Leo moest gebeiirt zyih die meX de Eii<;elitche 
Prinees Iklachtild^ Dogter van l\urilg Henrik den 1*werd«, 
gehouwd w!w, en ak Bruidt iu den Jtare 11G8 uit de 
lande ^evoerd met Harlog HenHk Leo, te Minden voor 
St. Pieters Autaar hot Huwdyk aloat, dat ook in 't vol- 
gendc Jaar 1169, met cfn plet,'tige Bvlegerini; zeer prag- 
iig te Bronawyk voltrtikken wicrd. Ala wanner men toen 
met Engeknd in t^n vertroiiwelyk Trcndsohap leefde.^* 

A slight foundation for a charge of larceny I 

The table, though impoverislied, was of import- 
ance in 1710. I find no subsequent notice of it 
in the dest'Hptions of Liuneburg to which I have 
referred. Several things worth seeing there are 
enumerated in Murray s Handbook of Northern. 
O ^rmaiint for 18iS4. hut nonft ^ wanft> Tgv 






[No. 272, 

second Inventory. It is said, liowever, *'In ar»- 
•otlier apurtuient, under lock and key, is the 
' corporation plate. Many of the Tesaels are 
masterpieces of goldsmitlia* work of the fifteenth 
century" (p. 329.) Perhaps some relic of the 
table may be found amon^r these ; iirid I hope 
readers likely to visit Lunebtirg will uiukc h note 
lo look. 

The book de&cribes with tedious minuteness the 
discovery, trials, and executions of the tbieves. I 
shall enter into these no farther fhitn is necessary 
to answer P. B. E/s Query. On March 21, 1699, 
six were executed at Zell Christian Zwanke and 
Andrew Zwart were broken on the wheel; Jur- 

i'am Kramer and Christopher Pante were be- 
leaded, — the sentence states that the beheadiog 
was a favour, because they had confessed without 
bein<5 tortured, and Pante bad behaved with 
credit as a soldier ; Gideon Peevnian and Jonaa 
Mejer were hanged, — no reason for the distinc- 
tion is given in the sentences. Per hap some 
might be discovered by a careful perusal of the 
libtory; perhaps it was only for variety. The 
Court, in its post-mortem treatment of Jonas 
Meyer, showed folly enongh to warrant the sus* 
picion. At the scaffold Andrew Zwart* blas- 
phemed and behaved with great violence, but 
grew calmer and joined in prayer just before he 
was broken. The Jew Meyer persisted in re- 
pelling the mmisters, and blasphemed till he was 
drawn up. This being told to the Courts on the 
next day a strange judgment was given : 

"That Ihe botly of Jonas Meyer be tak«n from thu placo 
of execution and brougbt before the Court, and that the 
tongue with whicli lie tios blnsplicmed God be torn from 
hiA throat and |>ub1icly bunied ; that the body be dragged 
back to the pkcc of execution, und tlRTe hung up by the 
feet with a ^ug by its side.'^ 

Absurd and shocking as this was, it was not in- 
^cted on Jonas Meyer as a Jew, but as a bias- 

On May 23, 1C9!), six more of the gang were 
executed : two were broken on the wheel, the 
other four hanged* Two of the latter were Jews, 
It was expected that Christian Miiller would 
speak ill of the authorities as Zwart diil, and 
tnat the two Jews would blaspheme, afLcr the 
example of Meyer ; so they were told that if they 
did their tongues should be torn out hefi^re their 
execution, and the executioner was ordered to 
have an assistant ready with the proper instru- 
ments. The assistant, fully prepared for action 
{met ghijenden tang€n% accompanied them t© 

* '^Dezen Bliadider, over zyn voorgeleezen Straf- 
vonais, in hevigen toonn ouUteeken, kon door geeue re- 
deaea tot bedjLaren gebrogt wordeo. Zyn g:emoed 
alond, wcgenj yym en wntaklust, ia voile n vlarn^ en 
br^kte, in de tegeawo4>rdJgtidd van alle aansehouwers, 
ffelyk dfl Berg Vesuviuap tomwvleu gtsheele klompen van 
weervmak uU."— F. 297. 

the scaffold, but his services were not required 
(p. 3610. 

In July, 1700, I wo more of the gang, one of 
whom was a Jew, were simply hanged (p. 367,)- 

The translator, in his preface, states that the 
original work had gone through two editions, and 
thsit the author, a Protestant minister, was dead. 
He acted as gaol-chaplain, attending the priaonera^™ 
after sentence, and at their execution. TeUirtgj^| 
the truth seems to be his only merit. His matter^' 
is a mixture of Kcwgate calendar and condemned 
sermon— facts, morals, and theology jumbled into 
almost inextricable confusion, so that it would be 
as difficult to arrange n connected and continuous 
story or sets of stories from it us to make a draw- 
ing of the back of an engine- turned watch. Even 
the dates are confused, the yettr being often sepa- 
rated from the month, and the month from the 
day, by twenty or more pages about what took 
place at twenty different times, some before and 
some after that' which is wanted, H, B. €► 

U, U. Club. 


^1 Majo 

Lieut-GeneraL - 



(YoLx,, pp.433, 511.) 

There are three distinct classes of commissic , 
officers in the army, viz. the company ofIicer«, J 
regimental or field officers, and the general officers.^ 
Of these three classes, the captain, the colonel^i 
and the general may be considered respectively^ 
the chiefs ; each having a lacmn tenens and 
second assistant, thus : 

1. Captain 
3« LieutenAot 
B, Second Lieutenant ) 
or Knslga 

Here the junior, or No, 3, of each daaa ia onlj 
major to the senior of the class immediately be* J 
low him. 1 

It will thus be observed, that the major belongs 
to a distinct class front the lieutenant, and cannot 
be compared with him; i^s a lieutenant-general 
may be compared with the major-general, being 
in the same class. The lieutenant bein^ in each 
case the second officer of his class, the third being 

If for an instant we alloiF the bead of eack 
class to be called mag-nu^j (the great man of his 
class), the second will of course be mitwr to him ; 
and, to continue the supposition, the junior will 
be mitiimia (of his class). Starting with these 
data, and carrying on the comparison into the 
next higher class, the junior of that class being 
senior to trmgnus becomes major ^ 

Your correspondent Arcui^^acoh Cottoit sag* 

"■ Whenever any of the last three (major, lieutenaot- 
colon el, and colonel), who are called tield officori, are 

Jan. 13. 1855.] 



minuted witli higher and mora extensivfi coratuauds, the | 
word general is added to their respective ranks, and the 
titles Are shortened in the fuUowing tnftnncr: captain' I 
jliajor-generRl, liciiteiiimt-cofoite/-gfeneral, tiad cwonel' ' 
encral/* i 

Does he mean that the major becomes a major- I 
gencml, the lieut.-colond a lieuL-general, uii4 
the colonel a general ? Surelj not. I 

At tlie risk of being tedious, I will give an ex- i 
tract from the Queeii's Ee^ulatiom, which will \ 
show what the colonel does become when intrusted ! 
with a higher and more extensive command : I 

(hmmand and Bank nf Officers. 
"3, Officera serving on the staff in the capacity of ftnj^- 
dkr-ffCHtralti are to Lake rank and precedes co from their 
commJ5/iions as colonefa in the army, and not from the 
d.ite-i of tbeir appointuienta as hrigadier^*"^ — P* 3, 

Thus we sec the colonel intrusted witlj a higher j 
command is not a general officer ; he is not given 
a higher commission, he »b appointed to a supple- 
mental grade in his own class as a colonel. The 
army m the Crmiea has aflbrded numerous in- • 
stances of eoloneb being appointed to brigades, I 
and subscquentlj gazetted to commissions as 
major-generals \ iliat is, to tbe rank of a general- 
mnjor to the former titles of brigadier-genemls, 
or in reality of colonels. The title may be con- 
tidered as maj or -^^I^«ffler- general : 

" 5. Captains having the brttvct-rank of field officers 
are to do duty a:? field offieera in camp and garrison \ but 
they are to perform all regtmental duties, according to 
their re^tmeiUal rankp agreeably to the ealabbshed rules 
of the service." — P. 3. 

Here again we see Ihe captain jealously kept to 
hia own class as a company officer, 

The final inference I would therefore draw is^ 
that a major and a lieutenant beiug in distinct 
olawea, and having no intimate connexion with 
ench other, cannot be compared as can u lieutenimt- 
general and a major-general. The term major 
implies only two persons under comparison : bad 
three been intended fthe lieutenant, the captain, 
and the major himself), the word would have 
been fnajrimus. 

X hope that the foregoing will answer O. S. 
\Tith regard to the major-colonel he refers to. 

Page 1. of the Queen jt Ri^gulations will show 
Arcojieacox Cotton that the term *^ captain- 
general at field-marshal commanding the army," 
1^ recognised though not used in the British army. 
K metms the general at tbe bead {capui) of the 




(VoLx., pp.35 L 409. &cO 

Perhaps it may interest SiK J« E. TsNivEirr and 
ic other contributors to ** N. & Q." ou the sub- 
ject of the lost of the PabEologi, to know, that a 
loufie settled in Malta, 

and descendants, in the female line» still exist, 
and occupy an honourable position in society. It 
appears by a pedigree, sufficiently proved by bulls 
and grants of various popes and emperors, and 
other documentary evidences, the enumeration of 
which would occupy too much valuable space, 
that Giorgio Palseologua, sixth in descent from 
Teodoro, Prince of Thebes antl Corinth, third son 
of the Emperor Manuel, settled in Malta about 
the beginning of the seventeenth century. Maria 
Palieologus, daughter and heiress of this Giorgio, 
married one Filippo Stufragi, and left an only 
daughter, wife of a Roman patrician, Michaelc 
Wizzini. In the fourth generation this family 
ended also in a daughter, Maria Wiz-zini- 
Falwjologo, who carried the imperial name and 
blood into the family of the Counts Ciantar, a 
Maltese race of some note and antiquity. The 
jrreat-granddaughter of this marriage espoused 
Dr. Francesco Chapelle, one of the judges of her 
Majesty's superior courts of law, and in her issue, 
I believe^ the representation of this branch of the 
imperial house remains. 

I remember to have met in society, some years 
ago, in London and Paris, a certain John Palffio- 
logus, n Greek, and an oriental scholar of some 
pretension, who claimed to be a scion of the im- 
perial family, John o' the Fobp. 

Having met with a passage respecting this 
family in looking over A Survey of the Turkish 
Empire^ ^c, by C. Eton (Svo. London, 1799), I 
venture to transcribe it, upon the possibility that 
it may possess some interest for your correspon- 
dents under this head. At p. 373. of this work is 
preserved a memorial, presented in April 1790 to 
the Empress of Russia, by three deputies from the 
Greek nation, in which these words occur : 

*'Gtvo tts for a. soverelgri your grandAon Conatantine; 
it is tho wish of our nation (the family of our eaiporora is 
extinct), and wb shall becoma what our ancestors were." 

To this Mr. Eton adds the following note : 

** In Ewrope we are apt to think that those who bear 
the names of Comnenos, Poleologos, Ac, are descendants 
of the imperial family j the Grtjeks however, themselves, 
have no such notions ; they aro either christian names 
given them at their tiaptism, or that they have taken 
afterwards, and thev onlv descend to the second genera- 
tjom. A man is called I^icolaos Panudopulo ; the former 
ifl his name niceivcd in baptism, and the latter a sumarac, 
because he waA the son of a priest; hit sons taJte the 
aumaine of Nicolopnlo (son of Nicolaos) added to their 
ebrifltion name, and the children the father's christian 
Djime as a suniame. Those of Fanar have, particularly 
lately, affected to keep great names in their famiMcs^ 
which were only christian names, or uamei? which they 
have taken of themselves, or were afterwards given them 
by their parents. relationSj or friends. The same may be 
said of some names in the Archipelago, particularly when 
the family has preserved for some generations more pro- 
perty than their neighbours i but tlieir names do not add 
to their respect amonig th e other Greeka^'iRU^ ti ^V&Rm 



[No. 272. 

the orli^n of therrit and htre not tlio least notiiTQ thftt 
there i*" any linMl decent to \ye traced of their ancient 
imporial or noblef«miU«H notwitliatandiof^ tlie pret«naioiia 
often of some of them, who bear their names when they 
come to Earope,"— P. 873. 

William Bates. 


(Yol.x., p. 185,) 

In I he preface to the original folio edition of 
the Life of Edward Earl of Clarendon (OxturJ, I 
1759)t the f«dlowin*f passage occurs : ^ 

"The resison whv tliis bistorj has lala so long con- i 
ceal4*d« will ap|>eu' fmm the title of it, which shows that 
hifl lordship intended it only for the infonnJition of hi* 
children. Btit the latt? l^oni Flyde, judg:ing that so faith- 
ful and authontif* nn account oiT this interesting period of 
ODf hiatorVf would be an uaeful and acceptahle present to 
the puhlic, and bearing Ji grateful remenihrance of thii 
place of hii education, teft by his will thi§ and the other f 
remaine of his ^rent-p^nindfathcr in the hands of Imsteea, ! 
to be printed at our pre85, and directed thiit the profits ' 
ariiiin^ from the sale should he employed towanifl the es- ' 
tahiiihin;^ a riding-who^d in the univei^ity But Lord 
Hyde dyjiigp bnfore his father, Che then Earl of Clarendan, 
the property of the»e papers never bescame rested in him, 
and consequently this bequest was void- However, the 
noble heireesea of the Earl of Clarendon, out of their re- 
gard to the public-t and to Chi« seat of learninir, hare been 
pleaded to ml ml the kind intentions of Lord Hyde, aod 
•dopt a scheme recommended both by him and bis great* 
gnndfttther * To this end they have sent to the aai- 
vennty this hiator\% to be printed at oar press^ on con* 
dition thnt the protlt^i Ari«in;7 from the sal e of ihit work 
be applied as a beginning for a fund fur aupporiing a 
manuv* or academv for riding, and other lueful cxer- 
cJms, In Oxford/^ 

In Gibbon^a Memoirs of his own life, he thii« 
alludes to the subject : 

"AGcording to tho will of the donor, the profit of the 
second part of Lord Clarendon^a hifltury bjis 1>een fipplied 
to the establiflhment of a riding-school, that the polite 
ftzerciaes might he taught, I know not with what success, 
in the uoiversity/" 

Upon this passage Dean Mttman makes the 
following remark : 

" Sexi the ft'Jvertiaemeot to Lord Clarendon's Beli^n 
and Pofiev^ ptibli«ihed at the Clarendon Pri4&, 1811. It 
appears that the property is vested in certain tru'iteea, 
who have probably found it impracticable to carry the 
inleniions of th« testator into elToet. If, as f am informed, 
the rtdiug^ftchool depends in the least on the sale of the 
RaUfkm and PMicf^ the university is not likely soon to 
obtain indtraction in that osefut and manljr etzercise " — 
Bd. Milnuuit pp. S3. d6. 

In the advertisement prefixed to the Religion 
and Polity (Oxford, 1811), it Is stated that the 
Duchess* Dowager of Qiieensberry gave the MSS. 
in question by de©<i to Dr. Robert Drummond, 
Arcfibishop of York, William Earl of Mansfield, 
and Dr. William Markham, Bishop of Cheater, 

* Sea tiis IXalo^ en Edmcatioti, 

upon trust for the like purposes as those ex* 
pressed by Lord Ilyde in the codicil to his will. 
It ia added that the then present trustees, Wil- 
liam Earl of Mansfield ; John, Lord Bishop of 
London ; the Rt, Hon. Charles Abbot, Speaker of 
the House of Commons ; and the Rev. Dr. Cyril 
Jiiekson, late Dean of Christ Churcdi, Oxford, 
having found the MS. oi' Heligion and Foliqg^m 
:amv>n(x the Clarendon Papers, have proceeded i^H 
the execution of their trust to publish it, TkW^ 
ailvertiseoientj however, affords no explanation of 
the reasons which induced the trustees to ab»taL%j 
from taking any steps for performing the conditio 
with respect to the cntabli:^hment of a ridinfi 
9cho(d, up'.m which the manuscript of the Life ( 
Lord Clarendon^ and his other papers, were ac« 
cepted by the university. 

It is possible that the profits arising from the 
sale of the Life and the other manuscripts, which 
were at the same time presented to the university, 
were not sufficient to defray the coat of a riding- 
school ; but it does not appear that any atatemeat 
of the inadequacy of the trust fund for the pre- 
scribed object^ or any other explanation of the 
course which they pursued, was ever published hr 
the trustees, L. 

1 Vi 




{Vol ix., p. 240.--Addiiioml List,) 

Miller** Chnrch Bell*. Words to Ringers. 12 mo. 

B«aufoy*s (8.) Ringer** true Gi*ide. 12mo„ l&Ol 

Reeve's Representation of an Iriish Ecclesiiisticat Beil dt 
St. Patrick. FoL, Belfast, 1850. 

Orders of the Compuny of Ringers in Cheapsade, 4t» 
from Feb. 2, imB, MS. cxix. in All Souls' Library. 

Lampe de Cymbalis Veterum. 

Laurentinsi, 'Coltectio de Citharedls, Fistulis, et Itll* 

Barbom (D. Ang), Duo Vota conanltiva, unum de Cam- 
panis, ultenim d« Cemetariis. 4to., ICiO. (" LibelloS 
rari-«simus" *^ X. Jk Q.," YoL ix., p. MO,} 

Qtiinoue^ (l>c Johan., D,D,), Specialis Tractatus de 
Campana in Villa dicta Vililla in Diocesi Cfeearaiigiutaai 
in Ilidpania, ]6'25. 

Py gi us ( A 1 ber I ), H i st. An g. 

August de Hcrruni, De rulsatione Campanarum piro 
Defunct ia. 

Lmurentius Beyerlink, 

The last four are among those quoted by Bap- 
bo&a in his very rare little book, which I had 
not met with when I published the list (Ytd. ii,^ 
p. 240), for the loan of which I am since indebted 
to the courtesy and kindness of its possess^or. 

R. Hospiniarius, ii> his volume (1672) De Tern* 
plis^ h&i iin interesting section ** De Campania 
et earum Consec ratio ne." This autlior quntea 
largely from Johan. Beleth, Thos. Nageorgua, 
and 1 hoa. Rorarius, 157tT. 

Forster, in bis Feremiial Calsndar^ p. 6ld,, 
fer* to a memoir of Keanrnur, in Memoirs < 
Faria Academy^ on the shape of bella. 


Jan. 13. 1855.] 





M. Chateatibri&ncl, in vol. iii. of his* Ginie de ' 
Chrkiemftme^ chnp, preiT!. ** Dcs Cloches,** has I 
aonie beautiful remarks on bells. j 

Diony.siiis Bur. Sulibi^ in the twelfth century, i 
wrote on bells* This is on the authority of Mr. 
Fletcher, in bis Notes on Nineveh, 

Allow me to correct an error in my Note of a 
bell inscribed ** Sign is cessandis,'* &c, (Vol. x., 
p. 3320' It ia at Clapton^ not WeHotiy m Gor- 

The following Notes on bclla iind ringing may 
be acceptable to some of the rea<ler» of *' N, & Q." 

SermoH BelL^lu the injunctions of Edw. VL, 
quotfd from Sparrow's Coll. in Cranmer'a Leiters^ 
hy Prtrker Society, p. 498, : 

'* AH ringing and knolling of bclla ahull be utterly for- 
bDniG at that time (Litany* Mass, ikc.)^ «3cc«pt one bell 
Id convenient tim© to be rung or luiollcd before Uie wtt* 

Bell-ringing on Allballowa Day, at night, with 
other ceremonies, aV^lisbed by a minute of the 
king\*; letter to Archbishop Cranmer, 1546, (See 
the Letter published by Parker Society, p. 414.) 

Master Beiis. — Bella were never rung tluring the 
last three days of Passion week (Roccha) ; and on 
Easier Day no bella could be rung before the bells 
of the cathedral or number church were rung. This 
WB9 settled under Leo X., A.t>. 1*5*11, by an order 
of the Laterttn Cpuncil. The number of hells in 
A parish church was limited to three by a decision 
of Char. Boromeo in the sixteenth century. 

Before the Reformarton no layman was allowed 
to be a ringer ; the office was confined to eecle- 
ffiastics, and it is said they were obliged to per- 
form their office in purphce. If so, it is a proof 
that in those days there could be nothing but 
ioUing and chiming; for it would be dangcTouj? 
and difficult to ring in a surplice. And yet, to 
auote from Fosbrcike'a Abridgment of Smithes 
Ijires of the Berheletfi^ p. 16G./ there were"s,'<Hid 
rings of bells formerly, be<]:ause so murhemph>ye<l 
in funernl!*," At the ccremunial of Latly liable, 
wife of Maurii^ Berkely, who died 1520^ there is 
the en try » — 

••It*ni. Ryngyng daily with all the hfllla eontinuallr, 
that k to sty, — 

At St* Micheira ... xxxH] peles. 

At Tfinitie . - - , xxxlij pe!e«. 

At St. John's - - . xxjtiij peles. 

At lUhyllake, bficause it was so nigh Ivii peJe^. 

And in the Mother Church the • atxx peles. 

Ami every pale xiidj' 

The peals rung on Christma^s Eye or Christmas 
oming were called "the Virgin chimes.** 
The ^^ pardon bell" was silenced by Shnxton, 
hhop of Sarum, in 1538, according to Burnet, 
in hi? Rft/ormation, book iii. p> 14*: 

" Tliat the befl caIM the Pardon or Aye Hell, whir Ii 

after and befbre dtrlne senricc, be not hereafter in any 
pjirt of my dioce«oe any mote tollyd.*' 

Query, What was the pardon bell ? 

Clyst St. George. 

I send for insertion a cutting from the old book 
catalogue of Jf^hu O^Duly (9. Anglc^ea Street, 
Dublin), thinking it may prove an addition to the 
list of books on the same subject which have al- 
ready appeared in your pages : 

" 47. BeLkI^ Roccha (A. Fr. Angelo, Epiiicopo Taga- 
stensi), de Campanis Commcntariuft, plates, ito. velluniy 
extremely rare, 5/. Rom», IGl'i. 

** llie ituthor of this curi(m>i and unique work must ba 
an IriAhman \ m th«r« ia a nonlon <>f it devoted to Irish 
befit, and to the powerful elfect producetl by the ringing 
ttf bells in expelling demons; Although there are demons 
that could not be rooted oat, had all the bells that ever 
were mauoltictured and €OQJM}crated been rmng at their 

Win some of your readers who maj have studied 
the subject, and have examined this work ^ give an 
account of it and its author? EniyKi, 

CttsbtndaU, Antrim* 



On demi taping htt^^ej-ette^i Caftodion Plate*. — To ascer- 
tain the limit within which syruptu! collodion plates will 
give perfect negatives, I have, during the lost three weeks, 
mad« a number of experiments with 8^x4>^ ptatesi The 
mestn lemptrnture daring that period was 46^ and the 
mean degree of htimtdity -83G. The plates were iodized 
as asual, immersed In a one-gr^i^ nitratc^^of-sitver bath 
for a fe«' seconds, drained, and coaled with two dosea of 
syrnp. It is much better to be a little prodi|(;al of ayrup* 
and make sure work with it; for if it la repeatedly waed 
there la great rink, in long-excited plates^ of the reduction 
of Mtne of the nitrate of silver it contaiiifl, and conaequeut 
speckling of the neg/itive. I g;ot perfect negatives with 
plates kept up to 108 hour^ ; but, taking the average of 
ei^ltt experiments* I ahouM nay that 150 hours is alioat 
the limit, after which there is more or less uiicertdinty. 
Beyond this time, owing to the hanJ^ning of the *yrup, 
ami iu almost tolnl insolnbihiy in the one-grain bath^ 
the ncgaiivea were very defective, the image t>eing ex- 
tremely faint, and obacureil by a veil of indurated B>Tap|. 
and the plate mottled over with black patches. 

The syrup, aAer it haa been on the plate a short tioMW 
consists of two layers; an outer one, which remains soft 
and hygrometrjc fur u 1on|r time, and ia soluble in cold 
water; and an inner film next the collodion, a compound 
of syrup and nitrate of silver, which ia insoluble in cold 
water. Tbia is easily proved by woahing the plate in a 
vertical glaat bath, when this layer is aeen sopanitin^ in 
bran- like acale*, the water me<.'hanically removing iL 
Tbia inner layer, after about 150 hours, Ixxromea adherent 
to the colhkdion, at fimt round the marg^in^ of the plate, 
thf'n to the whole surfuce, covering it oa with a vamiab 
which no anioimt of waahinfir in ^^^ water will remove. 

Seeing, however, I hat platea kept long beyond the 
above pcrinda were atill aenBttiveT yielding imagea, al- 
though extremely imperfect, I felt aaiiaiied that oottld 
the indurate ftvrup be removed* perfect nei^^'^,'**^^** 





[No. 272. 

plit« would probublf dissolve this indaratcd syrup, and 
after a few triah I met witli perfect succcas* 

The following is the method 1 have pursiied'with plates 
wliich had been excited upwards of ten day% before expo- 
Bure in the camera ; and you maj- juilgc of its aucce** hy 
tlie positives I send {one being from a ncg^Btive whkh 
hdd been kept 271 hours), aUhou|jh I am &atii0ed that 
the limit to the keeping of platen with t^i5 manipulation, 
extends much beyond that patlod. 

On, removing the plate from the dark slide, immerse it 
ici the one-g:rain bath for five minutes, to irraOTe the 
outer *rmp; drain it; then hold it, collodion downwards^ 
Dvcr the steam of boiling wuter poured into a flat pan^ 
for about ten rainuteSp taking care to keep the plnte four 
or five intihea from the surface of the water ; the mdurated 
■TTup vrilt gradually be seen to dissolve, and by inclining 
tne plate the greater part is easily run oflTauv angle yon 
diooie. Allow the plate to droin'and cool ; Iken remove 
the remaining aynip by gently pouring over it distilled 
water. Having drained the platOi pour on pyrogallic 
add fno image appears under this); after a minnte or 
two, when the collodion has been well impregnatcil, pour 
ofl* the pyro. into m glass containing aliout twenty -five 
minima of a len-graiu nitrate* of- silver solution, and im- 
mediately pour it over the plate ; the image rapidly cornea 
out, and may be developeil as usual to any extent. With 
some kinds of collodion, or in vorj'^ cold weather, it may 
be advisable, before using the pjTO., cither to pour over 
the plate a weak solutioti of nitrate of silver, or to mix 
the nitrate of lilver with the pyro. in the first instance, 
J merely aQggist tbia, having aa yet found the method I 
have given quite sufTleient. 

Steaming the platen cleans them so perfectly, and gives 
us such nia.'itery over thi^s melhodi, that itia always bttter 
they should be so treated, whenever there is the least fe^r 
that the syrup Is indurated* Twoa. L. JIansku^ 


CntiodioHiied Glaaa Ftatea^ Src. — It is with some con- 
iidemble regret that 1 find myself differing from so expe- 
rieoiJerl a photographer m Ma. F. M. Lyte has proved 
biuiself. Such however being the case, there ia no 
alternative but to give expre^mon to my opinions, or else 
to t>e silent, and thus tacitly admit the correctness of a 
Statement which I can by no means accede to. 

In Mr, Ltte'3 latecommcinication (Vol. x., p. 511.) he 
states that my praervativf pr&cfss seems to differ in no 
essential point from his ingtanfttneintM one, e^errpt that Mn. 
LtTK mixes the nitrate of silver with the syrup, wherCM 
I wiuk «/f" all but a slight trace» and add none to the 
tvfup ; ajid then add a that I am a discoverer quite as in- 
dependent *ft* btmself, thereby seeming to imply that his 
original obj<^t was aa much ioprratn^e the senaitiveness 
of the plate as to obtain a more highly exalted condition 
#f Impreamonaliility. Now, tJie exception alluded to ap- 
pear* to me to be the mmt essential difference that can 
well be conceived ; and Ma. Lyte aays, " 1 never leave it 
(the nitrate of silver) out of the syrup as be does, as that 
eanses unequal devdimment.^* 

That the latter allegation is totally unfounded I can 
moat readily prove, having sent eight picture* to the 
fbrth coming exhibition that have b«en thus taken, not 
onv of which has the fault complained ot 

Moreover, I find from experience that the addition of 
nitrate of silver to the syrup materially interferes mtli 
the keeping*: qualities of the plate thus trcjited, more 
•spedaily if the weather bo at all warm. In Mr. Ltte's 
onginal process, as published in "N-& Q/' (Vol ix„ 
p. 670,)» the qiiantity of nitrate of tilver there directed 
would certainly spoil' the plate in ksa than Iwelve hours; 
the qoantitj mently adopted is very iofiniteaimal, but 

the whole process as now given appears to me to be hut 
a variation of mine, directioua for making grape BQgiar 
being interpolated. 

That AIu. Lytb was experimenting upon grape sugar, 
honey, Sec. simultaneously with myself does not admit of 
a tloubt, but his object m using it and mine were totally 
different, so fur as I can judge by his published state* 
ments. Most as.'^uredh' mine was not any exaltation iit 
UHtibiliiyf but preservation of what it had, either entirely 
or partially > and in tliis research I wa^ not indtbud to 
any one foV a single hint, beyond what I have already 
suited as due to Meaars. Spiller and Crooke^ viz. that of 
exciting the plate first and preserving it afterwards. 

With regard to the efficacy of the formula I last gave 
(Tol. X,. pp. 372, 452.), I may stnte that, on the 30th of 
last November, I excited and preserved six plates for 
small stereoscopic negatives, and waa onlv able to use 
four of them on that day, and from prea.^ of busine.'ss had 
no op|Jortunity of uaing the remaining two until Decem- 
ber 28, exact Iv /our u-teks from the time of exciting. I 
did not developc the pictures until twelve hours after 
exposure, yet the result is m tst satisfactory, being per- 
fectly dense picturej and most evenly developed. 

In conclusion, I cannot but express my regret that I 
am thus obliged to appear in an antagonistic position 
with Mu. Lyte, possibly in conseqiuence of some mia- 
op prehension on my partes to hia meaniog, or some ovcr- 
seasitiveneas to an implied plagiarism, 


EfpTie^ tQ ffLinut <^uf rCftf. 


The hiogrfipMcal dictionarv of lifing authon 
(Vol xi., p. 17,). — The late Mr. Frederick Sho- 
berl, printer to bb royal bighiieas prince Albert, 
printed three volumes under my inspection — all 
for private diaLribution. The laiit volume was the 
Memtnn of my JVieod Mr. Ruinibiu;b, whieh was 
completed m 1843. I continuedj however, to call ^ 
on Mr, Sboberl front time to time till almost tbe fl 
cloae of his short career. ™ 

I there s»metimea met hifi father, Mr, Frederic 
Shoberl, and on one of those occasions the con- 
versation turned on the National Bknevoi-ent 
Ikstitution. *^I gave my votes," said I, "in favour 
of Watkius, the autlior of the Biographical diC' 
ftunary " — ** and of the Biographical dictionary 
of Uvitig QuthorSy'' added Mr. Sboberl senior* 
"What! was hb the author of that work?" So 
far I can report our colloquy almost verhaUm, but 
must now have recourse to narrative. ^Ir. Sbo- 
berl proceeded to aicure me, in preaence of his 
ion, that the work was written by Walkins as far 
as the letter F — that some dispute with the pub- 
liaher then arose ^^ — that the materials were there- 
fore banded over to himself — and that be com- 
pleted the work as it now appears. 

Mr. Upcott may have contributed biographical 
cittiingSi as he told me that be had made a collec- 
tion of auch materials* but in the Catalogue of the 
lihrary of the London Institution the work wta 
entered by bimjielf as anojit/mouM. 

A list of the works written, revised, translated, 
or edited bj Mr., Sboberl would equal in extent 

f Jan. 13. 1855.] 



«nj one to be found m hia own volume. The 
' first is dated in ISOQ; the hst, I believe, in 1850. 
[ As it ia in few hands, I sulyolo the title of it : 

"Tlje pjtlnat (TiiUur; ati hislorical play, in five acts. 
i Freely tniiislttted 1V"OT the Gcnnan of Augiistus Yoit 
f Kotztibiie by Frederic ShoberL London: printed for 
I private cSrculation only, [by F. Sliobcrl juniur] lajO/' 

BoLToir Cornet. 

^^ Political Erarister'* — Tour forrespondent P. 
R, (Vul. X., p. 492, ), nfrer dediiring, " the writers 
in it are not known to me, and to spticulato on 
tbe subject would occupy too niucli of jour 
ipocc/' concludes by stating; " Wilkes was cer- 
tainlpr a contributor/* How is this apparent in- 
consistency to be explained ? or is thi^ merely a 
random assertion, rejtting on no other ground than 
the attention (not nntmttiral, Icn^king at the cir* 
cumstances of the time and tlae cdaracter of tbe 
publication) which the Politkal Register paid to 
ilr. Wilkes' ttflTairs ? C. Ross, 

Iriih Newnpapers (Vol, x., p. 473.)- ^ Yotir 
correspondent \Viij4ah Jon« FiTZPATtticK, 

Monkstown, Dublin, stntes that ** the PMic Ri- 
gister or Freeman s Journal njipenred on Satur- 
day, Sept. 10^ 1763. ^Saunders t^pninj; into vitality 
almost simultaneously with the Frteman^ but is 
I believe its junior/' 

Aa I know tbo character of **N. & Q.'* to be to 
elicit facts, I have to stnte tbul No. 13. of the ori- 
ginal of Saunders's News LeHer is in nij posses- 
sion, styled E^duiles News Letter^ bearing date 
Wednesday, February 5, 1745, 

In 1754, Henry Saunders, printer^ became pro- 
prietor, and changed ihc name, calling it after 
nimselfj as his predecessor bad done. At this 
period it was published three times a week. 
^ In 1777 it became a dail^ puper, and has con- 
tinued so ever since; bavmg now attained tlie 
greatest amount of circuliition ever enjoyed by 
any daily paper in Ireland. These are facts which 
cannot be gainaayed, and I authenticate them with 
my signature. II, B, 


The Belfast News Letter would appear to be 
tlie oldest of the existing Xris^h newp.iper9 (pro- 
vincial or other). It was estiibllsheti in the year 
1737. For many years it was published twice^ 
it ia now published thrice a week. 

Jostpy WAaam Dodbiw, A.M. 

7. Stone BuildingSi Lincola*s Inn. 

Fleming* in England (Vol. x., p, 485.). — 
lA,jy* is mformed that many Flemings came to 
England with William the Conqueror, more in 
Henry I.*s time, nnd many as mercenaries, to help 
the Norman baron i to ho!d their grants ngainat 
the Welsk That the chief authorities for the 

above are, William of Malmesbury, book v, ; 
Gir.ddus Cnmbrensis, book xi. ; Lebind, totn. viii. ; 
Ilolinshed^ vol. iL : Camden, p. 154,, and p, 652. 
folio edition ; George Owen and lloveden, to 
which one or two others may be added. \ViI- 
liam the Conqueror^s queen was Countess of 

As to names, if M* D. would favour Welsh 
arehioolojiists with some of the more ancient 
Fleinitob names, could they be communicated by » 
nutive of Flanders, it niitjht be of service to them, 
living as ihej do among the descendants of the 
Flemiah, who were collected together from the 
mnre fertile provinces of England, where they arc 
f?aid to have** swarmed** to the no little disconK'nt 
of his nobles, and drafted into South Wales by 

Oi tbe names mentioned b^ M, D^ most of them 
seem to be of Norman origm. Kemp and Vayle 
are conjectnrcfl to be Flemish, and are found still 
in South Wules. Tbe result of inquiries after 
names and customs in Flanders would be gratify- 
ing. GlLDEBT P£ BOJS, 

Saint Tdlant (Vol. x., pp. f>65. 514.)^ — Dn. 
f) ilie 

Rock is quite right as to the acx of St. Tellant ; 
the feminine teriainatifin njven at p. 265, being an 
error of the press. He is, however, mistaken in 
supposing that I imagined bim to be a Flemish 
saint. My l^uery wn» as to t!ie probability of the 
tradition, which pives the beil a Spanish origin, 
containing any shadow of truth. It has been 
made clear that it docs not, the inscription refer- 
ring to a Welsh saint. SiXEUCCs* 

Col. Mareroni (Vol. x., p. 153,),^— In answer 
to the Queries of 1). W. S,, I believe there is not 
any account excepting ibe Memoir by himselt I 
believe him to have been far more Italian than 
EnijUsh. I believe tbe name Maceroni not to be 

In the Fummer of 1814, dining at the table of a 
German friend at Naples, I was startled by some- 
tblng icy cold touching my neck ; and found it to 
be a snake, winding about the back of my chuir, 
which was immediately removed by the party next 
to me, who put it into his hat^ and apologised to 
me for the annoynnce : this gentleman was intro- 
duced to me as SIgnor Maceroni. My inquiries 
regarding him estiiblished to my belief that his 
mother wus English nnd bis father Italian ; his 
own manners gave the impression of Italian 
suavity, enlivened by French vivacity ; be spoko 
both languages fluently, and without the accent 
or peculiarities that generally characterise the 
natives of either country, when Bpeaking the Ian- 
guiige of the other ; bis English was perfect, but 
spoken with a tlippancy very unusual in a native 
Englishman, which he certainly was not^ ^ During 
ray slay at Naples, we became rather intimate ; I 




[No. 272. 

■ i» be s Bott aaiQiiii^ eompanioB, full 
«fflBfioi«€e aad raried inibniuaiao ; but our careers 
Ivr vaAdj meparaU, and I nerer saw him after- 
It is too true tbat be was Terj badl j off 
be wrote bis Memutirt^ and that be died 
ifter mamj jean of miserj — a disappointed and 
fmi&ed bmb — in «pite of energr and talent, that 
— Igbl to have eommanded an abundance of thb 
irorW-s goods, aad the respect of bU cotemp^ 

Origim of tke Terwu ^Wkig"" amd **Tory^ 
(VoL x^ p. 482.). — Rapin the historian s able 
Duatrtaiiom tmr U$ WkigM ei la Totyt, 1717, con- 
tains the following passage : 

*" Les psztiaBs da Roi fnreot d'abord Dommex Carm* 
BvB, Doa qui a ti4 ckui^ depois, ea cdai de Torys. 
Ccnx dm ParksMBt, qm'on appeiU d'aboitl TAeg Bmdn, 
ant rseu, CBSBttci, i« dob de WTuft. Voici rorigine de 
cai dtox dtniers noms de Tmryt et de ir%t. On ep- 
DelkMt, eo ۥ terns li, TWyx, certains brigands oa bandits 
a*IrUB.!« qui se tenoient sor ks montagnes. oa dens les 
isles qoe foment les rastes mareis de ce psis-14. On les 
nomnie, i prnent, Rapperies, Comme les ennemis da Roi 
raccnMieiit de fiivoriser la rebellion d^Irlande. qai ^clau 
dans ce ni£ae tema. ils dono^rent 4 ses partisans le noai 
da Tbrys. D'an aatre cot^ ceox-d, poor reodre la pa- 
reille 4 tears ennemis, qai ecoient ^troitemeat on is avec 
Isi EcQssDia, leur doon^rent le nom de fFkm, qui Aoit 
eslai qo*on doanoit en Ecosse 4 one sembebie csp^ce de 
bandits, n parait, par 14. qoe ces dsnx noma sant aosa 
aactens qoe les commenceraeas des crcHlble^ et neanmoins, 
iU ne soQt veoos 4 U mode qae plasiears anoMs apr^ 
Je ne saarais dire pr^^isement en qael terns ; mais il me 
soable, qae les noms de Caraiim et de THe$ Bom^hs oat 
dar^ jasqa*aa reubluciement de Charles 11., et qu^ensuite, 
Dea-4-peu, ceax de TWys et de tFkip$ ont pris lear place. 
Ot soat ces deax partis qai ont commeaoe 4 diriser rAn- 
glelerre da tetas de Charles 1., et qai la diTisent eacors 

In this work I find the (to me) first appliomtioo 
€f the terms now in common use, ^uhra (mUrex) 
and "* moderate** (modir^:) to pi>litioal parties. Is 
there an earlier example of the emplojment of 
tiioee words in this sense f C Roes. 

Bsff-Milris rVoU z., p. 508.)— With no pre- 
ttnsioQ to legal knowleoge, or acquaintance with 
oki terms, but fitnn a mere eommon view of the 
word in quettton, I should saj it meant son-in-law, 
horn hmm^/U, or M-rV^mt F. C H. 

SmA, Book$ r^kiu^ to (Vol. x^ ^ 485). — In 
fftplj to ]rour correspondent lor books on seals, 
I would beg to reeommend him to Tk9 Cm$mi«fm 

tAneimi SboKiHiA v^Mt, hj l\ Laing, Edinbunrb, 
k plates, 1850, as the latest work on the subject. 
Many valuable remarks are U> be fbuml in the 
various nublioalitms of the Sooiei? of Antiouartes 
tttd the diflbreni AxchsMlogieal IiUtitutee ; but as 
ttt entire work on the su^ed, I«ainf's Amind 
Smk is muoh esteoBied bj ihoee oonteraaal wilh i 

I the matter. It is, I bdieve, the onlj one that 
! full J treats of it. It gives an ioterestrng, though 
i brief^ account of the art of engraving and the use 
of seals, as well as descriptions of above 1200. 

In Ruddiman*s Introduction to Anderson*8 
Diplomata Scotia are some interesting notes on 
seals ; and the fine work of Les Sceamx des ComUe$ 
de Flaudres may be consulted with advantage ; as 
also Natter's Traiie de graver en pierre fine^ and 
Tassie*s Catalogue of Genu, But these works, 
and many others equally valuable, treat the sub- 
ject more specially as one of the fine arts, than in 
the official character which most of the mediaeval 
seals assume ; and it is, I presume, this view your 
correspondent takes. Sigxet. 

Tour correspondent Adeiak Adxihax will find 
some assistance upon an examination of the un- 
dermentioned books, vis. : 

1. ** Ast]e*s Account of the Seals of the Kings, Royal 
Boffoogha. anil Magnates of Scotlend. Folio. 1793.** 

:^ ^ Lewis's Dissertations on the Antiqaitv and Use of 
Seab in England. Smell 4tOL 1740." 

3. *- Laing's Descriptive Catalogoe of Immcasions from 
Ancient Scottish Seals, Royal, Earoniel, Ecclesiastical, 
and Monicipal; embracing 'a Period from A.n. 1094 ta 
the Oommonwealth Taken from Original Charters aad 
other DMds praserred in PaUic and Prirate AirhiTct. 
4to. *■ Oolv one handled and fifty Copies printed fat 
Sale.' 1856." 



I can help your correspondent Adihk ax to the 
titles of a few works, in which he will find nnmerooi 
enj^ravings of seals, riz. SaiMlford*s Gemtalogied 
HUi. ofEmgtamd; Lain<?*s Catatogme of tke Scot- 
tisk Seals ; TWsor de Aaa ttr as a feyiie (a Terr fine 
work) ; Uredius* SigiUa Comitmm HamdHm; 
D*AnisT, Recmed de Seemax Sonmarnds ei Amglo- 
yorma'mds. Z. s. 

ne 5dkio£ne8 (VoL x^ p. 464.). — In reply to 
jour Querist J. F., I beg; to say that the best way 
m which he can satisfy himself will be to rend, oa 
any point of Theology whit^ may be moft interest- 
inffto him, some one or more of the Schoolmen. 

The first Schoolman b Peter Lombard, Bishop 
of Paris, who commkd the 5Mrnces, i.e. the 
^ decisions'" of the Fathers. This jcreat work is 
the foundation of all the scholastic wrttinirs. Our 
own Alexander of Haks, the Doctor IrrefragabiliS| 
in whom I bare al$o read, b one of tho^ who 
fiUlowed and amplified the master of the Sfiilences. 
St. Thomas Aquinas, the Doctor An|:elicus, did 
the same thins« lenTing an authority and a repu- 
Ution l>ehind him whi& perhaps no other wntcr 
since the Fathers has obtained. Your oorre* 
spondent wUl find» to hb great ^titfiwtiMi, wad 
prjbably to hb aurprtse^ that these qoealioiit 
wkiols in C011MI mm uakanMd tnlkt are dailj 

Fan. 13. 1855.] 



rentilated ut dinner parties, religious or ordinarr* 
ill over England, haye been seized upoD^ perfeclTj 
nulysed, and set ut ri'st, ages a^o, bj ** iLe 
elioolinen," I p.irticulitrly teeomuietid to lum, 
9T example, tbe Decalogue^ m our coy airy man 
Jexander of Hales. D. T. 

J. F. doea not state what branch of the Sehool 
philosDpby be wiahes to study. If it be ethical 
pbilosophy, be ciiimot have a more favourable 
initiarum into ethics than in the Secuitda Senififlfe 
of the Summa of St. Thomas Aquintis. I cannot 
boiu*t of having read the Sum ma through ; but 
I u^e It for constjint reference, and scarecdy ever 
rise from Ha perusal without the acquisition of 
some n»'w idea, or a su«rgeslion of a«me new 
trains of thought. Hie ang;e!io doc (or certsiinlj 
not only compiles but thinks, ami tbey whf) enter 
into his Inll discussions of every subject will be 
constrained to think tt>o. If J. F. is in earnest 
about studying the Schcjohnen, I vt'iitiireto retom- 
mend him es|>ecially to commence with the Sttcunda 
Sectindte, home previous knowledge of Aristotle's 
method and style in desirable* 

William Feaskb, B. C. L. 
Alton, StaffordBhira. 

SamManks (Vol. x., p. 508.). — The force of 
gravitntinn which bringi down the silt from a 
river ie opjwaed at or near its mo nth by another 
force, that of the tide of the estuary or se^a into 
which tjuch river tlows. Where these two coun- 
teracting forces meet, the sediment contained in 
tbe river-water settles and rbrms a bar across the 
rivers moutfi, and sandbanks beyond it, the op- 
position of the two fltreams (river versus tide) 
producing quiescence and facilitatinar the deposit 
of which sandbanks are composed. I'hese sand- 
banks, the orifjin of deltiis^ are deserving of close 
atteniion, as their accretion const ituteji a natural 
chronometer, wlierebv tbe age of the river it&elf 
may be a|>proxituately estimated, by ascertaining 
the quantity of de|KiHit accumulated in a given 
time» and therefroui inferring the ratio of tbe time 
of the aggregate accumulaiiuu of the whole ^and- 
bmnk. T. J. Buckton. 


Brasses restored (Vol. x,, p. 53o.), — Would 
Mb. FijcQARDsoN or W. W. oblige me by giving 
tiie comp<^ition of the ball, which being rubbed 
upon black puper, placed over ao engraved brass, 
produces a perfect fac-simile, and the metallic 
appearance of the original, or say where it can be 
Hr chased f Sob. 

Chttf Tobacco-pipes (Vol ix., p. 372. ; Vol. x., 
pp, 23. 48. 211.)-^ — I have tbe bawls of two clay to- 
bacco-pipes of very small size and peculiar shape ; 
ttrangely enough, they were both found in church- 

yards in this county (Somerset), within five miles 
of each other ; they are cast in the same mould, 
and have on ihe heel the pott^^r'a name itnpreised, 
*' lisFFBir hvnt/* The small size of the bowl, 
and the use of v for c In the stamp, point to some 
antiquity. Perhaps some reader of ^"^ N. & Q," 
who may be acquainted with the time and place 
at which Jeffry Hunt exercised his useful calling, 
will communicate a note thereon « 

AiiTavs Pagbt. 

Churches dedieaied to St. Pamras (VoL x., 
p. 508.), — Z. asks for the localities of the twelve 
churches dedicated in honour of St* Pan eras. 
Here are eiji^ht of them ; some other correspondent 
can probably supply the otbera. 

Kxtter ----- De^oQ. 

\\'i*iei:oinb-in -ihe-MooT - - Devon. 

PautTaAweek - - - - Devon. 

Chiclicalor - ^ . - Sussex. 

Wroot Lincola^hlre, 

Colli red - - , - . Kent, 

Londiin^St. Fjincras, New Hond - Middieavx. 
Do. St. PttucTua, Super Lune 
( incorporated with St. Maiy-le- 

Bow) ... - - Middlesex- 

The best representation of St. Pancraa I have met 
with is in tbe magnificent brass of Prior Nelond 
at Cow fold in Sussex : he is drawn with a youth- 
ful countenance, holding a book and n pidm branch, 
and treading on a human figure, probably intended 
for one of hia pagan persecutors. Noaais Deck. 

Your correspondent Z. states, that there are 
twelve churches in England dedicated to St, Pan- 
eras, and wishes to know where tbey may be 
found. I suppose be has some authority for the 
j/>eci/?c numher which be has mentioned, although 
he haa not in form ed us of it. I send you the fol- 
lowing li^-^t comprising ten^ which are all that X can 
discover, but probably some other correspondent 
may be able to supply the other two. 

Alton Pancras 
Arlington - - - 
Cbicliester - - - 

Exeter - - . 
LondoHj Sopcr Lane 
St. PftHLTaa . - - 
Pan craei week 
Wroot - - - 










F. B— w, 

[Our correspondents have overlooked tha (^td St» Pan- 
ems Charc-'b, ne&r Kf iitish Town.] 

Oiford Jeu d" Esprit (YoL x., pp. 364, 431.)..^ 
In a copy of Johamus Gilpim iter^ latine redditum^ 
in my possession, 1 find a MS. note, referring 
the authorship either to Robert Lowe, of Mag- 
dalen College; or to John Caswell^ of New 
Hail That note was inserlcd on the authority 

-ing . 

ag- ■ 
Inn ■ 


[No. 27^. 

an ex-Fellow f>f Orid College, anil a first-clti^s* 
man in Lfteris Humanioribas of Michaelmas Temi» 
1833, I am slitl unacquainled with tlie name of 
the Author ot" the Rime of the New-made Sac- 
calere. Q. L. S. 

Song of the Cuckoo (Vol. x., p. 524,). — Uneda 
refers to on old ru^tie aiid nursery rlijme, of 
which til ere are several slightly varying editions* 
That of my early recollections ran thms : 

" The mckoo U a merry hhii^ 

Sbe sings an the flie* ; 
She brings as gocnt lidiagSt 

She tells ua no Ucs. 
She sucks httle bink' eggs 

To make her vijicc clear y 
All J when »ho sings * cuckoo* 

The STiramer la near/* 

5fay I be allowed to refer Uned* to a paper of 
mine on the subject, published in Bobn'n recent 
edition (edited by Mrs. Howitt) of Aikint** Calendar 
o/Naiure. Carojuiic£ Catu^bkicb Lucas. 


" Nii^'' and ** Knagg'* (Vol x., pp. 29. 172.)* — 
Are there not good and sufficient reasons for be- 
lieving the^se to be the same word^ diHerentlj 
written, nnd to be different forma of gnaw for 
knaw ; in Ang.-Sux. Gnrpg-an^ in Ger. Nagen f 
Todd tells US, that ** Anaw " is ^' sometimes written 
for ^naw/* The interchange of h and g is com- 
mon ; so IS the change of the guttural g into u or tr. 
Todd gives no examples of " ^naw/* Richardson 
has three : from Chaucer, Sir Thomas More, and 
North's Translations of Plutarch . 

To keep gjtawin^ or knaggiiig at a bone ; to fret 
or eat into by continued biting, by repeated trials, 
19 a literal explanation from which all our conse- 
quent metaphorical usages seem easily to derive. 



Sir Henrif Johnes (Vol x., p.445.).— J, P.O/a 
Query is truly *' the voice of one crying in the 
wilderness," for, like many another traveller on the 
tame road, he has lost his way in the thicket of a 
Welsh genealogy, I will endeavour, under cor- 
rection^ to restore him to the right traclc. Both 
Burke and Courthope, in their^j-^iitcf Baronetages^ 
proceed upon the assumption that there was but 
one SLr Henry Johnes, Bart., of Albemarlis ; that 
ho married Elizabeth, daughter of Sir John Salis- 
bury, Knt., and widow of John Salisbury, Esq., of 
Rug, and that by her he left no issue, whereby the 
baronetcy became extinct. Now, it is perfectly 
clear to my mind that this is an error, for there 
were, beyond doubt, at least two Sir llenriep, 
Baronets, of Albemarlis ; conseauently the first 
Sir Henry must have left male issue, by one or 
Other of his wives, Miss Salisbury or Elizabeth 
Herbert, for it appean to be quite certain he was 

twice married. Elizabeth Johnes, who was marrie 
to Sir Francis Cornwallis, Knight, was one of ti^ 
diiughters of the secomi Sir Henry Johnes, Ba 
by AEurg!iret,liia witCj daughter and coheiress of £ 
rfenry ^Villiams, Bairt.,of Gwenievet, asisexpresslj 
stated in Burke's General Armoury, Magdalti 
and Prise ill !i, who, as J. P, O, states, were marrie 
to the brothers Stepney, were daughters, as I con 
ceive, uf the yiV*/ Sir Henry Johnes, by Mijs Her 
bert; whereas Magdalen, who became the wife i 
Sir Antkony {not Sir Price) Rudd, of AbcrglassnjI 
was in all probability a niece of these ladles, 
Bister of Lady Cornwallis, iind^ by the same token, 
daughter and colieiress of the second Sir Henry 
Johnes, Burt., of Albemarlis* I cannot discover 
when either of the barooctri Jolmea died ; indeed^ 
neither Burke nor Courtbope state when tb^^ 
baronetcy became extinct* If J. P.O. knoii 
where the family generally were burled, a rcferenq 
to the moiiumentul inscriptions or parochial reg' 
ters would set the matter at rest. 

As I stated at the onset, I have advanced I he 
remarks entirely under correction^ and it is thep 
fore quite possible that I may be wrong upon son 
points; yet, in the uiain, I trust and believe m^ ^ 
reasoning will prove correct. As Sir Francis 
Cornwallis was styled of Albemarlis, at least as 
early as 1710, I conclude the barouvtcy became 
extinct sometime previous to that date. 

T. HuGBSit^^ 

Chester. M 

Battledoor (Vol. x., n. 4S2.). -^ Thanks for th« 
answer to my Query. Now as to the derivation of 
the word, it can scarcedy be from battoir^ the 
name both of the washing beetel and the toy ; but 
Albcrli gives " Battolr,grosse palette avee laquelle 
on bat la iessive ! ** and on bat Fcau also ; there- 
fore may not our word have been originally ^^battrf^H 
d*eau ? It is curious that, instead of adopting tbli^| 
name of the implement and the toy, we shouM^* 
have made a longer and a meaningless name for 
ourselves. In the cav^e quoted from Annals of 
Cambridge^ the implement was doubtless used to 
prevent infection by handling the clothes of per- 
sons who bar] the plague ; the hint might be taken 
in the present day, F. C. B* 

Ahclardand the " Damnamns'" (l^ol x, p. 4S5.), 
— See Berengarius, ** Apologet* contra B. Ber- 
nardum," ^c, in 0pp. Abfelurd.^ 4to., Paris, Hil6, 
p. 305. But it was never intended as a serious 
narrative. C. P. E* ^ 

Novel in Manuscript and the " Sm Otter,** ^ 
(Vol vii., p. 130. ; \ ol x», p. 465.), — In answer 
to the Queries of your correspondent William 
DuAWC, of Philadelphia, I have gone over the 
principal part of** Lloyd's List** for the year 1809^ 
and can find no iuch ship as the '* Sett Otter/* 

Jan. 13. 1855.] 



CiipUiin Nlles, namecl therein, eiilier arriving at 
Any port^ sailing fVoin anywhere, or even any 
notict! tttken of lier loss in the list of shipping 
cfisaster?, fr^in August to December in that ymr, 
Th.* ** ScQ Otter," if thLTC was sucli n ship, did 
nnt belun^j to thf port uf London, lor n frioiiJ of 
mine baa kindly searchetl the books in the Ciistoni 
House hore^ from 1805 to 1811, unJ no such nanie 
of vessel appears : separate bouks are kept at ihc 
Customs here ibr the various oiit-portp, so per- 
haps all hope may not yet be lost to your cor re- 
Spundcut of fiuding Iter out. As no mention h 
mude ol' sneh a vesael in Lloyd's List, as far as I 
can see, I am indined to think it i5 a fictitious 
name,— could it be ** Swalkiw/' badly written ? I 
kive seen two or three vesaela of that name regis- 
tered. Is the year correct P J. S. A. 
Old Bn>ad Str«et. 

^m DtiSJi a Circle round the Moon forckdl had 
PBlVt?oM(?r f (Vol, X,, p. 463.).— Araong iLo peiij^lu 
■ ^ of Scotland a ^''hrugh about the uiooii ** bus been 
long eon&idered us betokening a change of weather, 
usually to teet; and from observation it will in 
most cases be found to bold true. The bnigh or 
fog is supposed to be caused by the atmosphere 
being charged with moisture ; and the longer and 
deeper the circle the more chance of copious rain. [ 
Dr. Jamie^on, «. o. , says, ** a hazy circle round the 
di»k of the sun or moon^ generally considered as a 
presage of a change of weather, is culled a hrugh 
or hrogh** That however, as regiiids the sun, docs 
not ujjpear to have popularly settteddown with the I 
sauic strength of prognostication, G. 2i, 

I beg to Inform W, W. thai, in the opinion of 
country people, a circle round the moon always 
■Hpni tends rain; and if very large, the fall oi' rain 
^v will be very great. It is considered an indication 
of much rain, rather than stormy weather. This 
^^ was first pninled out to me wlien I was a child, 
^Ll>y a genileman who was a great observer of these 
^Vsiaturai signs ; and my own observation since has 
^H convinced me of its truth. U.J. 

^B Wandsworth. 



Whaf is Amontillado Skerry f (VoL ix., p. 474.), 
— I do not see that any of your correspondenti* 
has given what 1 believe to be the correct account 
of this curious wine. The peculiar llavour is 
IcuuHcd by a process of fermentation^ over which 
the growers have no control, and for which they 
eannot account. Sometimes only one or two 
butts in a vintage will be affected, and in other 
Tears none at alT. Those which same mysterious 
influence designs for Amontillado, produce a kind 
of vegetable weed after having been put in the 
eask; it is long and stringy^ like some of our 
fresh -water weeds, but with very fine fibres, and 
bears a very minute white Jlower. Immediately 
,*fier shedding the^e lowers, the whole plant dies 

away, and never again appears, but it leaves that 
peculiar flavour. 1 hare had this description po- 
sitively stated and verified by those who have vi- 
ailed I he Spanish wine districts : and in Chambers* 
Edinhurgh Joiu-nal I remember reading the same ; 
the exact reference I cannot give, but it was before 
Aogust, 1852. I have looKcd over the indices 
since, and think it must be one of thoi?e arliLles 
which boars no relation to its title ; a y^Tj bad 
babit, which prevents an index being of any use. 


Artificial Ice (VoL x,, p. 414,). — I had in- 
tended myself to have calletl attention to the mis- 
apprehension of my Query on this sulject, W. J. 
BtttNHAKD Smith is quite right ns to what I alluded 
to, I understood, however, when making intjuiric3 
upon the subject, that the isurface wa.^ smoothed 
by being rubbed with wct elolhs. This was in 
nnswer to my (juej^lion as to whether it would be 
necessary to roof over any place laid with thecom- 

I position. This, joined to its being then a patent, 
ed me to think no more of it at the time ; but I 
nm now anxious to find out the composition, and 
therefore beg to renew my Query. \\' hat was the 
eubstttnce exhibited under the name of artificial ice 
for ikaliiig on at the Egyptian Hall and Baker- 
street Bazaar, many years ago ? I. V, Q. 

**The Modern Athens'' (Vol. X,, p, 525.). —The 
manuscript entry referred to by our Editor, 
assigns the wrong Christian name to tlje authi>r of 
this work. The Modern Athens wna written by 
the l.rte Mr. Robert Mudie, author of 7'he BritUh 
Nidurtilist ; Guide to the Obaervatiun of Nature ; 
and of many other popular works on Natural 
History and other subjects. C, Fobbiss, 


Quotation for Verificatian (Vol, x,, p. 404.), — 
** Son of the mornia^, whither art thou gone? 
Where hjist thou kid thy njauv-apimgled head 
Ami the niajciEic menacti of tUiau eycj, 
Felt from ufiir?" 

This passage is from Bbur*B Gravc^ lines 134— -137 ; 
but the last word of the first line is **gone,** not 
" fled," as given by \\\ Fbasieb, The poem being 
in blank verse, a rhyme here would be a fault. 

A?r OiJ3 Bengal Civilian some time since 
(VoL v., p, 137.) iiifurmed us, tLit the phrase 
^' Son of the IMorning,** in Childe Harold^ cant. 2. 
stanza3., is an oriental expression for ** traveller,'* 
in allusion to their early risiii«j to avoid the heat 
of the sun ; bm, however applicable this int^rire* 
tation may l>e to the passage in Childe Httrold^ 
the phrtise can hardly, I think, bear thi;« sense in 
the lines from Blair. Can any of your readers 
say what it means here ? The context seems to 
reler it to Alexander the Great, E, L. N. 



[No. 272. 


nam OH BOOKS, btc. 



King^i PamphJeU. — TIjb frequenters of tbe reading 
rooms of tbe British Museum were grstifled, at tb« re- 
opening of the library tbiu week, by the «i>pear3nce of 
nine hujre folio yolume'* lubelled "King*g Pamphlets/' 
Thiifl in nut a catfi}<*^ti(t, however, of the ftplendid collecrion 
of pamphlets about 40,000 in number, which gcocrallir 
pus under this name — ^ tbe moat valuable act of docu^ 
mental,** eavs Thomas Carlyle, **connf?cted with English 
hifltorj'.'* *rhe new catalogue we upeak of represents wine 
20,00i> pftmphlcta belonging to the royal librarj', which 
were prt^senied to the nation more than thirty years ago, 
but whose existence waa made known to the piiWic only 
mx Tuesday bst. They were disinterred hy Mr. Panizjti, 
andt wc undcriitiiiitli a catalogue waa made of them fifteen 
jeart <go, but chie6y for the unc of the librarians. This 
catalogue h^n been revtsei and recopied, and is now ac- 
oesivible to the public. The collection contnins all the 
mont im|iortant pamphlets written during the reign of 
Georgv III. on trader commerce floance, administration, 
and ptJitics general ly» It embrace* also an immense 
number of tract!*, placards, «tatiifeii, Jkc.^ in liutcb and 
Freni'h, hn^nnj; reference to Spanish rule in the N ether- 
land i^. To Mr Panizzi*8 eoergy the public is indebted 
for the banquet thu.** »et before it. Tlie old collection of 
King')} PampbletA, known to bibliographers »» ths; Tho- 
mason Collectiou, woa ma^k during tbe reign of Chtirlea L 
and the Commonwealth, After experiencing a variety of 
Ticis'^ttodc.'i, it wa* purchased by George III., who pre- 
sented it to the Hritish MuBeum hhrary. It h catalogued^ 
in manufrript. in twelve small volumes Adio. On the 
fly leaf of the timt volume is written, — "Actions that 
may be presidents to poateritie ou^bt to have their re 
cords : and doc merit a most uaefuTl preaervatioa." Tbo 
tratt^ are entered ac^rording to their sixes. A distinct 
catalogue, ab-habetically arrangi^d, h much required for 
this mrnt invaluable historical col lection. 

Mr. Peter Cunningham* by the pnbUcatton of the third 
volume of his edition of Johnson' t Live* of the PoHm, has 
brought to a closo his many year-' labours on these cele- 
bratedl biographies. The present volume, like its prede- 
oessora, eu mains not only evidence of the great piuns 
which the editor has taken to do Justice to tbe labours of 
Johnson, hut also moob curious illustration of th« accu- 
racy of J oil neon in caMs where bis accuracy has been 
doubted, and al*o some curious ia^tancM of the shrewd- 
ness of his conjectures in the absence of positive know- 
ledge. Thus when Johnaon laya, " To read Euttathiua, 
of whow» work there was then no Latin version, I suspect 
Pope, it' he had been willing, not to huve been able," 
Mr. iC^unningbam shows how well founded is the supjio- 
■ition by the following note : " * AH tlie crime ih&i I have 
committed is sa}ing tnat he is no master of Orei^k; and I 
am so contidt-nt'of this, that if he can transhite ten lines 
of EufitathiuA, rU own myself unj out and unworiby,' — 
Brome lo Fenton, IStb June, 1727 (unpublished Letter in 
Mr. Cmker's poesession)." It is by sutb appoiiite notes as 
thiA, and by the free use of nnpublL-^bed materials, ori- 
ginal lettem, &c., of which he has been fortunata enough 
to procure many well suited to his puirpose, that Mr* Cuu- 
Dingham has succeeded in making bis book, what we 
believe it will long continut^ to be, the standard editfoD of 
Joht%»fn/i Livei of the Mo§t EmiutHi Enjfluh Poet$. 

Mr. l^entley, encouraged we preauiae bv the success 
which has attended his cheap ealtiotis of f^re»cott a his-^ 
toHcal wrJtinji^^fi, has determined to make ■ monthly isaue, 
ill a cheap yet be;iutifuUy pnote^l form, of many of the 
▼mluable copyright works of which he is the proprietor. 

The fim of these Mimtkly Vofumes of Standard ami Po^ 
pwiar Miidern LUtraturt (for m the series is to be entitled) 
is the tirsi of that amusing and popular bit of gossiping 
history, Jets^h Court of Mngiand under the Htign of the 
SttutHi^ a work undertaken to supply — in some measure, 
and so far as the period to which it refers — the want of 
those anecdotical memoirs in which the French are so 
rich. And although the book may want somewhat of tbe 
freshness, quaintness, and, so to speak, tbe unity of anjr 
one of these, it of course has on the other baud the »4- 
vanta^ea which ought to attend all selectionfu *•'' 
ing of good things only; so that for a wet 
foantry, a long e%'ening at borne, or a long ni ', 

Jease'a Cburt of Emdand under iht Stwarta, in its u«w 
and cheap form, will be found an idmirable companion, 

Books JiKCFdyETi.^ Knowledge it Poterr; a Vtrw of 
the Proditdive Fttrctt of 3fr>tlem Society^ and the ResvHt 
if Itahotirt Capital^ and SkilK by Charles Knight, — all 
expansion and adan^tation to the more advanceil views of 
the present day of Mr. Ktaight*s popttlir and most usefoJ 
volumes,^ The Result* of Maehinayt and Capital mtd 

Gibbon* $ Rome^ with Variorum Xotet, Volume SLtth — 
Bohn*» Bn'ti^ CiriMjVf. In announcing the extension of 
this edition to seven volume**, Mr, Bohn promiseii that the 
seventh shall contain ** an Index more eircumstantial and 
complete than any heretofore publiabed." 

The Eceletiastical lihfory ttf Sftzoment and the Etxkd' 
asticnJ HuUiry of Philttstorfjiuit, trantlated from the Greidkf 
by Edward Woiford, is the new issue of Mr. Bohn*s £e-^ 
cUMtastictx! Library, and is another of his claims to the 
support of those who wish to see knowledge made oeceesCbla 
to all 

Jamen* Life if Richard Ctrtir-de'Linn, In T^vo VobimeBv 
which forms I he isNUe of Bohn'* Standard Librarjf for the 

E resent month, ia one of tbe most popular of Mr. Jtuitdfy^ 
istorical biographies. I 

#Vy LeacfM. The Second Serte* fully justifies what W*i 
said of it4 predecessors, viz.^ that it is a fitting companioA ] 
for Davi;*^s Olio^ and other work?< of that kind, prized 
because useful to all bibliographers. 



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Gibbon wa*» in gonerul, io careful a writer, aad 
^ bis knowledge of antiquity was so comprehensive, 
that an J dt^viatiuit from accuracy in hh grent 
historical work, even on a subordinate and inci- 
dental point, is worthy of being ncjted. llii his- 
tory hmv ninreover, been revised by editors of so 
much ability and learning, that those errors which 
were in?€p:irftbJe from so vast an undertaking 
have been for the most part rectified. The fol- 
lowing passagei however, stumls without any ob- 
servfttfon in the recent excellent edition of the 
Bedine and FaU of the Roman Empire^ by Dr. 
Wm. Smitli : 

" AlmcMit all the flowurs, tUe herbii» and the fnaita that 
grow in our European gardens, are «/f foreign cxtri^tion, I 
which, in many ciiaeSt i* botrajcd tven by their names i 
tlie apple was a native of luly ; and when the Romans 
j had tasted the richor tlnvour of the apricot, the peach » the 
pomegraaflte, the cilton, and I he orange, they ton ten ted j 
thtm^vei with applying to all these new fruiu the 
comraon denomination of apple, discriminating tliam 
frwm each, other by ibo additional epithet <if their coun- i 
try.*'— Vol. i. c. ii'. p. Wi. j Dr. Smith's edition. i 

Of the exotic fruits enumerated in this passage , 
as known to thtf Knuians in the early period of 
the empire, the Mains ArmetUaca^ or apricot, u 
I mentioned by Columella, s writer of the first 
I century, as cultivatcil in Italy in hia time, (De 
Re Rmi.^ v. 10* xi. 2,) The Romans aJso called 
this Iruit pracocia or nrtBcogua^ ^ being an early- ! 
ripeninjj peach. Speasing of the different Perxico^ 
or peaches, Tliny says, " Muturescunt a-stutc pra;- i 
cocift, inlni trigint;i annos leperta, et primo de- > 
I nariis «ingulis venundula.** (N. IL^ xt. 1 1.) | 

Martial, in an epigram headed ** Persica,'* or 
*^ NuciiKjrsicft/' speaks of the apricot as inferior i 
L to the peach, and as a stock on which the peach 
I was grafted r | 

^^L ** Yllia matemia fueramus pntscoqna ramis ; I 

^^P Nunc in adoptiTiii Pendca eara suiniUL^'^xui. 40. | 

^^ PalliMliui, however, who understood ganlening 
better than Martial, describes Armenia or prts- \ 
eofpta a<? a species of peach, and as being grafted i 
on the plum (xii. 7.). Dioscorides likewise;, after I 
eaking of peaches (rT</wiJt*l m^ao), ^ays that the ' 
iller sortj called Arm^'TimnSy in Latin TrpatKOKia, 
more digestible (De Mid. MetL^ i. lt>5.; and 
laee SprengeVs note, voL ii. p. 41(5,) The Greek 
' fcrm of prtpcocia or pr<Ecoqrm o?curs as wpwwKla 
in Galcn De Far. alim,^ ii, 20*, and as fitf^Koitien in ! 
the Geoponics. Compare Mcorsins, Lex Grmc, \ 
barb, in 3«f):iroifKm and UpttcoKKia, From this cor- ' 
Kispled form of the Latin pr acacia was) formed the 
hiM^mdhereocca^ with similar forms in the other 

Romance languages, and the old Engfish apricochi \ 
(See Diez, Rom. W&rierbuch in Albercocco.) L* I 
Grand d' A ussy ( Pw PrivSe des Franqavt^ torn, ti I 
p, 216,) states that the apricot was not cultivatei^l 
in France till the shcteenth century, ■ 

The peach, Maliut persica^ had been introduc 
into Italy before the time of Columella (v. 10.)^ 
and its varieties are described by Pliny (x%*. llS 
13-), who states thitt it passed into Italy from 
Persia through Egypt. According to Le Grand 
d'Ausrfy, the peach was known to the ancient 
Gauls, and was cnltrivated in France in the time 
of Charlemagne {ih, p, 2 IS.), 

The pomegranate, Punicttm mtdurn^ or granatum^ 
known to the Greeks in early times by the name 
of poll, appears to have been cultivated in Italy 
under the early emperors, (See PI in., N, H^ xiii, 
34.; Columella, xii. 41.) 

The citron, 3falus As^yria^ Medica^ or citrea^ 
wad not cultivated in Italy in the time of Pliny, 
He states that the fruit was only eaten as an an» 
tidote against poison, and that the plant would 
not grow out of Media and Persia (xu.7.,xv. 14,), 
Virgil describes the citron as a Median tree, and 
speaks of its fruit as a remedy against poisons 
(Georg, IL 126—135. Compare Theophraat., 
Htift. Plants iv, 4.). A writer named Oppius is 
cited by Macrobiu?, as stating in his work on 
Wild Trees, that the citron did not then grow in 
Italy: ** Citrea item nialus et Persica; altera 
gcneratur in Itslia, et in Media altera.*' (Saturnal. 
jii, 19. § 4.) Palladitifi (iii, 6. v. i.), whose time 
is uncertain, but who is referred to the fourth 
century, gives a minute account of its cultivation 
as being then common in Italy, 

But the orange, Cit/us aurantium SiTtensia., was 
a plant wholly unknown to the uneients. It is a 
Chinese tree, and it lay beyond the range of their 
navigation and commerce. Thci'^ is no reason to 
suppose that any ancient Roman had even seen 
the fruit of the orange* Tlic common account is» 
that the orange was introduced into Europe by 
the Portuguese as late as the sixteenth century; 
and it is added thut the original orange-tree 
brought from the East was still growing at Lis- 
bon, near the end of the last century, in the 
garden of Count San Lorenzo (Le Grand d* A ussy, 
ib. p. 11)9,), 

It appears, however, that this account ifl not 
exact, and that the merit of having introduced 
the orange-tree into Europe does not belong to 
the Portuguese. According to the recent re- 
searches of Professor Targioni (as abstracted in 
^' Hititorical Ni>tes on Cultivated Plants," in the 
Journal of tfie Hirrtimdtnral Svcieiy of London)^ . 

the orangC'tree was introduced into Europe from j 
Arabia by the Moors ; and was cultivated at 1 
Seville, towards the end of the twelfth <y!i!SvVMa^^ 
and at Palermo, and Tjt^^\i^V\i ^v '^•nwx^ vw^^ 
thirteenth, \.^ ^TiaA « ^>4.%v5 XvV^>««^ «^^^ 

that some plants of it existed m Daupbine in the 
jear 1333. Other wrUei-^i have supposed that it 
was broy^ht from Asia bj the Veneiiang or Ge- 
noese. But whatever may have been the precise 
time at whicli the orange- tree was iiUroduced into 
Europe, and whatever the chanoel by which it 
came, It is ceitaiti that Gibbou has uommitted an 
anachronism of at least ten centuries, in ascribing 
the cultivation of the orange to the Komanaof the 
firat period of the Empire. L* 





*— oo«atr«TijoijrARxoai, — opestion of the mastku air 

THK ROLia, Etc* 

The Charter from the 31st Report of the Com- 
missioners appointed ill pursuance of the act 
6 Wra. IV. c- 71., and presc^nted to both Houses of 
Parliament, by command of Her Mtijcsty, 1 837 : — 

** llenn,-, by the Grai e or Qui!, Mmtster of the CharcU 
of W inches* ttT, to tbeVeoeraUc Lord in Chrkt, llaymoiid, 
Master of Itio Hospital of Jerusalem^ and hid brethren in 
»lu€ succession for ever; Those thing*, which arc appointed 
for the honour of God, and for tbe health of their auula by 
the faithful in Christ, ought to be so siecurely eatablished 
OS not to be shaken by uny lapse of time; wherefore^ be- 
loved brethren in the Lord» 1 dcliyer and commit to Pro- 
vidence and to th« admlniBtration of youj-aelf and your 
Buccesaora (as evidenced by tht^ writing), the Hospital of 
the poor of Christ, which I, for the heiil th of my soul and 
of the 80uti» of my predece&Kirs, and of the kmg» of Eng- 
land^ have founded anew without the walb of Winchester, 
presenriag its condition nnchangcd, so that, aa it has been 
constituted by me, and has been confirmed by those apo- 
itoUc men of piou* memory Wipe Innocent and Pope Lnciujti> 
the poor in Christ mav there hnmbly and devotedly serv^e 

** Now the form of the a«rvire and the constitution ap- 
pointed by mo is thid; 

*^ Thirteen poor impotent mGn» and so roduoed in strength 
as mrely or never to be able to supnort thetnaelrw with- 
out the ait.*iistance of another, shall refnaln fwimanently 
in the Hospital, to whom shall Lkj given necttssary gar- 
menia, provided by the Prior of tti« hoote, and bciia 
suitable to their inlirmltie,H ^ nbo good wheal en bread to 
the ntnount of live nicadure-s daily; with three diahe^ at 
dinner and one for supper, and aumcient drink. 

** If* however, it should happen that any one of these 
recover hia strength, he shall be tUsmissed with decency 
and respect, and another shall be Introdticed In h[& room. 

** Besides whifh thirteen poor men, 100 other poor men of 
good conduct, nnd of the more indigent-, shall be received 
At the bour of dinner, to whom shalf be given coarser bread 
of the same weight aa above, and one dish, as flhell seem 
meet according to the convenience of the dav, and a cup 
of the mea^urti afure-faid ; and who when they rise from 
dinner shall be permitted to take away whatever iihall 
femain of the meat or drink. 

"We farther enjoin you compassionately to impart 
other assistance, according to the roeaai of the house, to 
the needy of every description^ 

• See ** N. & Q," YoL x., pp. 185. 2^0. 381. 

** All these things I with the asaistance of Dlvioe grace 
have appointed to be observed in the afore.wid bouse of 
God for ever, to bo continually and faithfully fulfilled 
by yon, but preserving in all things the canonicjil jims- 
diction of the Bishop of Winchester, that the appoint* 
ment and administration of the Prior of Ihe said Uospitil 
may be by the hands of the said bishop; and that the 
rents, together with all the appurtenances, bestowed upon 
the said Hospital by me, may remain without diaturbance 
or misapplication for the purpo^cj of the said Hospiti 
among which apnurtenances we have thought it right 
enumerate the following bv their proper names t ^ *" 
chnrchc3 of Farehani, of ^^ursling, of Milbrook, of . 
ford, of Hinton, of Alverstoke, of Kxton, of IIurstboL 
of Whitchurch, of Chilbolton, of Woodhay, of Alton, _ 
Wintoey, ot' Stockton, of Ovington, with all their appar« 
terianc«8 and appendages, and the tithea of demesne of 
Wakham, nnd other rents a&signcd to them in the city 
of Win ton ; and if any person hereaA^r shall take upoa 
himself to appropriate or dimintah the said rents, or to 
disturb or deteriorate the statutes and customs of tbt 
aforesaid House of God, which have been condrmed by 
the authority of the Huly See and of the King, let hin 
incur the anger of Almighty God, and of the Bishop of 
Winchester, and of all good 'men, unless ho ahull study to 
amend bis fault by fitting satisfaction. But to yoa aad 
your sui 
our constiti 
mercy from the Lord Jesus Christ, 



on, ijI™ 

accessor*, benefactors of the poor, while you preseivt 
riAtitutiona without breach, mav there be peace and 

The date is not affixed, but 11J7 is assigned as 
the year m which this charter was granted. 


Cardinal Beau for t^ brother to King Henrj W* 
and Bishop of Winchester, about the year I'"' 
mnde considerable additions to the buildings of 
Hospital and its rev en ue^ and directed an increased 
number of poor and others lo be maintained 
therein; he nko imposed statutes and regulation* 
lo be observed on the part of the persons admitted 
on his foundation, which was to be descrilwd ss 
(he Alms-house of Noble Ptwertf/^ But the car< 
dinrd, although a very wealthy man, had Dumeroof 
enemies. He was searcely dead before the malioe 
of those who envied and hated him became too ip* 
parent, and the Hospital was soon stripped of the 
secular estates which he bad annexed to it. How- 
everj by the zeal and per<evernnce of Bishop Wam* 
dete, a charter was granted by King Henry VL 
in 1486, directing that with what remuined of' 
the cardinars entlownie]it> one chLiphiin and twa 
brethren should be maintained instea^l uf the 
chaplains, thirty-five poor men and three women^ 
appointed by Beaufort; that the chaplain should 
celebrate mass daily with a special collect for the 
soul of the founder, and witli the other prayers eo* 
joined in the statutes : the two brethren were alio 
bound to say private prayers like the old brethren* 
but their habiliments should be diJTerent. ( Li/s 
o/BUlmp Wa^nfiett, p. 225,), 


With reference to the statutes of tie he 
a local historian states tliat the wldt 




r. 20. 1855.] 




steward^ prior to 1696, destroyed the wliole of 
them and the ordinancea/to cover her husband's 
defalcfltlotis. (Prouten s Winchester Guide, p. 38.) 
A siiiiilitr Btatemcsnt was made to the Court of 
Qneen*s Benth m June, 1851» wherein it was al- 
leged that in the time of James I., one of the 
masters being residtint in Scotland, left the care 
of the Hospital to his son, who afrain left it to a 
Mr. Wright, in whose time all the papera were 
lost, and that the wife of Wright burned all the 
records of the Hospital. (Shaw's Juslice of the 
Peace^ vol. XV. p. 4;J3.) 


The commissioners (from whose report the copy 
of Dti Bloia*ft charter is taken) say tnat the regu- 
lations for the government of the Hospital and of it^ 
funds, if any were ever prescribed by the founder* 
or visitors, appear to have been lost anterior 
to the year 1660, and the estabhahmeut was long 
conducted upon the authority of traditional custom 
only ; that the defect was at last supplied by com- 
mon consent of the master and brethren, about the 
end of the seventeenth century, by the preparation 
and adoption of a document culled tlie Consuctu- 
dinarium^ in which, after reciting that upon dili- 
gent and strict search made among the records of 
the Hospital, no statutes nor footsteps of any 
statutes could be found, directing the government 
and re;iulation thereof; but it then was and had 
been time out of mind governed by customs taken 
from and in pursuance of former grants and 
donations of the founder thereof , . , and to pre- 
vent all difFercnces and disputes in future, the 
then master and the brethren, the steward and 
chaplain, mutually agreed and declared that the 
several customs Jind usages thereinafter written 
were those by which the said Hospital had been 
and was then governed. The instrument then sets 
forth the number and description of persons that 
were to be supportetl by the establishment, the 
allowance to each weekly, yearly, and on parti- 
cular days^ which, together with other matters of 
rule and reguhition, although important, are too 
long for insertion here. It also states, that it 
had been and was the custom and usage that the 
master should govern all persons in and belonging 
to the Hospital; that he should receive all the 
profits and revenues thereof, with which he was to 
tear the whole charge of the house, and to keep it 
and the church in sufficient repair ; the overplus he 
was to retain for himseb^^c, (F. 847.) 
The representations made in the Guide Book, 
the Court of Quecn*s Bench, and of what was 
M to the Commissioners, may be received as 
matter of information only, and given without due 
warrantry ; but the jftatementa m the Consuetudi- 
narium, attested by the signatures of the several 
parties thereto, and ratified conditionally by the 
then bishop of the diocese, demanded and received 

strict examination at the hands of the learned 
judge who presided over the court in ivhich the 
inquiry was conducted. His searching eye and 
acute power of investigation soon detected the 
erroneous and fallacious assertions therein set forth. 


The learned gentleman s opinion of that instru- 
ment is expressed with such a vigorousneas of 
purpose, that it is not only startling, but forcibly 
impressive. He said : 

" ThiflConaucliiriinariiini is one of the most extraordinary 
docunicnls tb^t ever was produced or relied upon in A 
court of justice: it bogitia Uy reciting that search had 
been iinide among the records of the Hospital, nnd lliat no 
Kt^itutiis or trace of any stailutes could be found, diret'ting 
the govern ment nnd rcgidatioii ihereof. At that time they 
who were the parties to thjs recital had in tlicir poaseMion 
a copy of the sen ton ce against Roger de Clownc [on« of the 
maaters called severely lo account by William of Wyke- 
hom in 1372, for endeavouring to convert the rpveuqes of 
the Ilou^e to hia own uae], a copy of ihe Bull of Pope Crre- 
Ijorj' respecting the abuses introduced by the blaster of 
thollospital by the approprktion of its revenues, luid ap- 
pointing a coni mission to inqnire into the same. They 
had also a copy of the evidence and prtjcecdiugs under 
that comtJiis!*ion» besides which they had various docu- 
ments respectinf^ the establishmRnt of the Alms-house of 
Nohle Poverty* These documents, toes nnd now iu their 
possession, contain ample evidence! of the original rales 
and statute?j showing the object ami destination of the 
charity to have been the very opposite to that to t* hich 
they were about to convert iL The conl in nation of this 
document is of a piece witli the opening] it reciter that 
it had been lime out of mind governed bv customs taken 
out of and in pursuance of the grants of tlie foumler?, the 
interpretjition of which might oocaJii on diltlerencea l^etween 
the master and brethren ; and iu order to prevent w hich they 
Cthe master and brethren) had agreed on what the cus- 
tom was .... Thereupon they proceed to settle 
the cttstotn, or rather the distributio'n of the revenues of 
the charity, in elaborate detail, according to their own 
will aud pleasure^ in direct violation of lUi act of parlia- 
ment passed one hundred and twenty years before, and in 
direct t^pontion to tkv evidence and documcnit then in ihdr 
own cutiody , . . , A more borefaccd and shameless do- 
cument, in my opinion, ihan this Coosnetudinarium could 
not have been' framed, nor coidda more manifest and pro- 
bably wilful breach of tmat have been comnuttod hy the 
master and brethren. The bithop who ratified this docu- 
ment trusted to the word of the master and hrcthrtn, hut 
he gave his mtificatioD quatiBed so a.*^ not to be in dero- 
gation of the statutes of the founder, if these ahouM 
afterwards he discovered-** — Late Journal, 1853, Chftncery 
Cases, Tm—m^. 

I am thankful to Ma, Cuarles T, Kellt for 
the corrections of my list of Masters supplied in 
Vol. X,, p. 473, ; and through the medium of your 
columns request, on behalf of myself and other 
readers, the dates of appointment of the under- 
mentioned gentlemen, named by the Rev. Mac- 
kenzie Walcott, in his volume on Wyhehum and 
his Collages^ as having been Masters of the above 
celebrated House : 

Page 347. "John Rede, D.D.. Fellow of New ColU^^t.^ 
1 474. Warden of Winchester, &<u ^*aJwt ^"^ ^^V. ^::i^'««** 
Died 1521/* 




[No. 2tX 

Page 413. "John Cfookc, Fellofr of Windiester Col* 
lege, 1619, ProUcndary of WiiKLe*ur CathedrmJ, 1640. 
Miister of SL Cross," cScc, Died about 1645, 

Page 43-L Tbe Rtgbt Hon. **Clmrlfl3 Wolfran Com- 
irmll, Barrister -at Inw, one of the f^rvrda of the Treo-^iirj, 
•ad twice Speatier of the Houac^ of CommoiiB, 1780, 1784. 
Mijiier of St. Cross," Dietl 1789^ and was buried in the 
Hoapital Church. 

Henbt Edwaeds. 


The love of tbe Dutch for extreme clean! mesa 
htiM become, as it were^ proverbial ; and every one 
who ba« travelled tlirou^h the country, and wit- 
nessed their grand hebdotnudul schoonmakeiL, can 
testify to the almost faimtical exee&s to which tbe 
passion for piirificiition is carried among them. 
It would appear, nevertheless, from varioua ullii- 
Biona in the works of our older writers, that in this 
respect, m w«ll as others^ Ihe Dutch of the present 
day are *^ unlike tlieir Belgic sires of old ;^ and 
that while tbej have ]o«t tbe bold and warlike : 
character ascribed to tbeir ancestors by Goldsmith 
in bis Trateliery they have at the same time ceased 
to be characterised by the ruggednefis of dress and 
filthiness of person ivhieh served at one time to 
paint tbe moral of the wit and tbe satirist. J'bua 
tbe punnin;; allusions in Prince Henry's taunting 
yiecch to Poins have ceased to be intelligiblL\ and 
I am not aware that any commentator ba6 endea- 
voured to explain them :■ — 

" What a disgrace is it to mf ..... . to bear the in- 

rentfliy of thy shirti; as, one for superfluity, and one 
other iQT n»i?'— but that, the tenuiictmrt keeper ktiowa 
better Ih&n ! ; for it is a low ebb of linen with thee^ whm 
thou kecpest not racket there; ns thou hast not done « 
great whil*?, becausci the re?t of thy low-ctmrttrieM have 
mide a Mfiifl to eat UTt thy hnUurCd: mid Ood knows* 
ifrhrth^r those that b&wl out the niitia of thy lincn^ shall 
inherit his kingdom,** &c— - Second Part of Kinq Henry 
IV,, Act IL Sc 2. 

An cxplanatian of these alluaiona would be 
desirable : they tiiny be thought to receive some 
illustratiou from the following passage from Eaile'a 
MicrocnsTTUjgrapfiy ; or^ a Piece of (he World 
ducovered; ^c., l2nio, London, 1732. In bb 
cbaracter of " A Younger Brother," the Bishop 
says : ** His last refuse is the Low CouiitFie«», 
where rags and linen are no jtcandai^ where be lives 
A poor gentleman of a company, and dies witlioot 
a thirt.** So also in a satirical work by Owen 
Fellthara (A Brief Character of the Low Countries 
under the States^ being Utree Week/ Obserraiion of 
the Vices and Virttte* of the luhabittiiiijt, London» 
1&59, l2mo.), the sailors (thut is, the inhabitants) 
are chariicterised as being able to " drink, rail, 
swear, nijrgle, steal, and be lowgie alike ** ( p. 40*). 
Goldsiiiith is reported to have said (wbereP) 
that **a Dulcbmttn'a house reminded him of a 
temple dedicated to an ox ;" and in his Ciiizen of 

the World (cliap. xxxiv.), he says : " My Lord 
Firmly is certainly a Goth, a Vandal, no taste m 
tbe world for painting. 1 wonder how any call 
him a man of laste ; passing through the streets of 
Antwerp a few days ago, and observing tbe naked* 
net^s of the inhabitant!), lie was so barbarous as It 
observe, that he thought the best metbod the 
Flemings could take was to sell their pic tares mad 
buy clothes." 

Perhaps after all, these ill-natured sneers m«^ 
have lie tie better foundaiion than lu ibose pbysical 
peculiarities and eccentricities which have so long 
marked out the Low Countries as a stock tbemt 
for the exercise of satirical humour — IVom th« 
witty and extravagant descriptions of Marvell and 
Butler, to the patiietic *'' Adieu ! canuux, canardi, 
caniiiile" of Voltaire, and tbe aarcastic dcscriptioa 
of the author of Vathek. Wiiuam Batss. 


Minor ^nttS, 

The Tnrhijfh Troop.^, a.d. 1800.— 


** It !«, perhapj^* a fortunate circumatance for Enmips, 
that the efforts which hiive be«ri made at different tim*^ 
and which are still making, by European officers, to la- 
troducn a discipline among the Turks, have prnv«d ia- 
effectuid ^ for, if they are considered in regard to their 
personal courage, their bodily strength, or tii«itr miiitny 
habita, they will he found to eqaal, if not to surpaas, aaj 
other body of men. A loaf of^ bre^d, with au onion, ii 
what many of them have always lived upon ; rice ii a 
lii3cary» and meat a dainty to them. With thia mlMtfr- 
mioufi diet they are etracigiars to many of our diaeatiit 
and the li^trdjihipit of a Gamp life are habitual io thaia; 
l>ecau>iep from thdr itiikuc)% they have slept upoci tht 
ground and in the open air. Diacipliac would certaiidy 
make men who arc posKCdised of luch natural advanTazd 
verj' formidobl©; wnereas, from a want of it, thty lit 
despicabte sasmiss." 

The camp at EUArisb : 

^ The ^iew of the camp the morning after niV mrrival 
at EUAri^h, was to mc a very j&iiigular aight, as 1 belwfs 
it was original in ita kind. The ground U[>od wbick il 
stood wo.^ irregular, and a perfect desert of white saii^t 
with no other si^s of Tegetation than a few date-trvo^ 
which stood in a cluster at a gnmll distance. The tenlSp 
which are of different coloars and ahapes^ wex« irregularly 
strewed over a apace of ground several stiiaA in circuiti 
and everything that moved was coosplcuaiB to the eye, 
froai the white ground of the landscape. The whole n* 
scmblcd a targe fair; a numlwr of the af>!diers who 
without pay t-arry on a tTaflic bj' which they sit boat; 
there are, besides, tradesmen of ah deAcriptioiis who lUt 
low the camp{ some keep coffee-houses, which an dis»< 
tinguiahed bv a red Hag; others are horse-dsalein ; aad 
a number of public i^ryers are constiLnlly emplojeA 1^ 
de^ribing io the multitude things lost/ or in selllnp 
divers articJes at auction. This SL-enc of cimfuaifla is 
certainly mon? easily cotieeired than to! hi ; bat 
ingenious detinitton of it wah given l>y a Turk, who 
aaked to deiu:nbe their manner of encampmeuL * luua,' 
said be, pulUng from hi3 pocket a handful of pofaa [a 




^llhur V 

jAS.2(i. 1855.] 


flroall bIItct coin], nod thTuwIng^ them cttrclesaly on m 

Tlic above extracts are from a Memoir of a 
campaign with the Ottoman armtj in Egypt^ from 
February ia July ISOO. LQudon, 1601, 8vo. ; on 
interesting pampblet of uncouioiofi ot-Lurreiice, 
Mr. Moritir vvas priirnte secretary to his excel- 
lencj the earl of Elgin, Boj-Toa CottNET. 

Curiosities of Letter-writing. — I sa^oii) 8 per- 
fect gem, which I have just recelirecl from a female 
correspoiidcnt : 

** SUT» 

" I Lucjiy • • • Beg^ to Infonn^ you that i Have 
ucitliiii;^ A gainta the ••*.*.... Campnay Hut my 
Iluabantl b a SoulUor i\jid i Have nothing a Loud mc 
from the Parisjh anfl the IIjua that 1 Live in is wear my 
Sorounel^sii Ncbora Bee wear 1 Pick Hup my Little Bred 
for m« and my famley And j Cannot Leave it without i 
Biive a Nother Cloua'at and.^ 

The *^ nebori/" I hear, consider the poor woman 
A witch I In ray judginejit, the appeal would 
have been less clotjuent htid it been couched in 
leas exceptionable vernacular. 

C. Majisfi£L1> Ikolbbt. 

ne Duke of Monmouth. — The fullow^ing is a 
copy of a letter addressed to the Corporation of 

« Wytchall, 23 Ang. 
" Gentlemen, 
*" Upon my arriv»ll att London 1 mctt with the report 
of Mr. Marvel I 'a deaths on© of the burgissefl for yo"" towne, 
which givQA me occasion to becume a nultor to you in 
btihalle of Mr, Shalen, tiiat yoa ^ould eln^t him to atipply 
that vacancy in Farliamout, whom I biik upon as a pcraon 
very well f|ualifved to scirve the king, hin rountry, and 
JO' Corporation iu particulrir, to whose interusta I ahull 
always nave a pccaliar rf'f;ard, and shall owue your Und- 
nam ner^iix aa aa obligation to. 


** Yf very humble Scr**, 

*^ MoSMOUTB " 

In another band — 
**Rec^ the 23ti> Ang*. IB.** 

It appears, however, that the duke's friend, Mr. 
SbaleS) waa not elected to supply the vacancy 
occasioned by the death of Andrew Marvel, but 
ipparently Mr. Anthony Gtlby* SiiOBaoLDS* 

Curioun Magical Compact, ^ In Tableau de 
Tncanttance dea mavpais Anget et Demmut^ par P. 
'e Lanere, k Paris, 1612, p. 174., he relates the 
following : 

' En Tan 1574 vn bomme nommd^ Troia Eieus.» ft*obliga 

era vii M<Medn E«cossota qui s'estoit v^nu accazer en 

ville de Ilourdeaux nomme Macrodor [or, aa ha 

1 bo Ci&ll(»i in Scotland, Marroiker or Mac^rDmther\ 

' mruir apr«!z aa inort de Demon, et k cei iini 11 luy 

acdt aon esprit^ a'obljgeant ii£ tuy reufder toutes 

■ecrete» incognu«i aujc homines, et luy fjiire to us 

IS offices, que semblables E«prita out accouatamt^ da 

^oeux gui cntrent en pareilks ctiriositez: mesme ae 

oir visiblement h sa dextra toaloi let 

r auec aa robbe et un Juppia «tt eaia^iiiii 



de vetoux tan^ at des cbau^^es do mediae «»tQfe et cou- 
kur; br^f en me^ime habit qu'il estoit tors dudici pact^ ct 
conuention. lequel estoit escrit aur de pnrchernin rirrgo 
en lettre (ic isaiig d'homme que le to '.■ " : ,o- 

)«tte i et fut troiiuer Id dicta obligatio I9 

cuyure de rorme r(kle d^assez raiedi , at^ 

laquelle efltoy*?nt graue2 lea sept noma de JJieu, Uea Bcpt 
Auge*, des st'pt pkn^te*, et plusieurs antres Laracterea, 
lignw, poiuctjj et autre* chosea k moy incognucA. 

" Or ce Maorodor estoit oommimemcut tenu pour "Ma- 
gicien et soicier, et k faict lay et toute *a famdle \m fort 
paunrc fin ; et pendAnt sa vie sa plus grandc fortune a 
est^' de Aeruir de Medecin aux. pauurM pri»c>ui}ierB de la 

Mbj not such dark practicea ms the foregoing 
have given some countenance to the old phraac 
« Buying and selling the DevU ?" G. ^. 

Otherns Life of Odo. — AlLan Butler^ in bis 
Lives of the SaitUiy vol. vii. p. 39., states that ** the 
life of Sl Odo^ written by Osbern, and quoted 
by William of Malmesbury, seisins nowhere to be 
cxtat»t.*' In torn, cjcxxiii. coL 9^1. £cc. of the 
Patrologia Cnrsus Completm, by the Abbe J. P. 
Migne, we find " Vita S. Odonis auclore, ut 
videtur, Osbcrno monaeho Cantuarien&i (Apud 
Mabll. Acta Sanctorum ordinia S, Bened^ Scc,)»' 
Thiii life states that Odo was Bishop of Sherborne, 
not Wilton, previously to his proraation to the see 
of Canterbury. Joseph B. M'Cali*. 

British MuBiiuto. ^m 

** IVhy spare Odessa f — We have all seen this H 
Qaery many tiuiea repeated in the " leading ' 

journal :" its transference to the more peacefiil 
columns of ** N, & Q." is now made niore with a 
view to the introduction of some (^notations from 
the chapter entitled " La Russie ** of the Abb4 de 
Pradt's celebrated work, Le Congres de ViennCf 
than from any special decfire to see Odessa razed 
to the ground. At the same time I do wish to see 
that finely*9ituated |»orl in the honda of a gene- 
rous power like England, which would rentier it a 
free mart for all the nations of the world, rather 
than an entrepdt to be opened or shut ut the ca- 
price of a despot like Nicholas, The spirituel 
Abbe aays (he was no admirer of Russia forty 
years ago ; what would he say now ?) : 

" Une cr^LlioD d'arta et de commerce k Odeasa m^in- 
■pire plus de craialefi que Sowurrow arec son armde aa 
Italie: lea arrai^ea paasent, lea arts resteut. La Eataie a 
prb la rout« du Midi; elle fl*avant'e stir lui avec una 
popubition raillante et robuate, avec Jes Instmments dea 
artfl, et so us de« cbefs atisd polled que lei Europ^iena. 
. . . « Toute armm punmient Euroip^iuie est dvuia^Saf 
toute unn^ Ruasa Feat leuLement dans tes chaft ct aa 
I'est poj dims le laste de sm ineiitbrea. Quels que soiiutt 
les progr^ de la civilisalioa en Kusale^ cette dittance daa 
chefs aax Bubalternee durera enciora longtempt. Mais 
c*e«t 11^ pr^ia^ment qu'est le danger. Cue barbarie n>- 
buBte et obdiBsanie esst ttinjours aax ordiea de la civiM- 
aatioa La plat exquita. lies mains aavaales mnmttii dm 
inatrumena bar bares, at »*en acrvent commc dea uf^ns 
aavautes peuvent le lauia. ..... II parmit (|uc ramitio ct 

la reooanauiaoco da la Pniaaa oat tadliltf Jes acnmga* 

10 ct ■ 


[No. 273. 

me OB de la Roasi^L Oa a pu crolre n'avoir rien k roa- 
tcster k qui Voa pouvait croiro tout devoir. . . * . CVUiit 
contre !es agmndisaemcrui de la Eiwaie quo tc Congrfes 
dcTait dresser toutes l&i forces dc sa raJson, de sea ra> 
pr&entatioiu 6t de son opposition : c*eut et^ nn iiit<^res- 
aant pluidoyer que celai do midi de 1 'Europe, deniaudant 
au nord de cesser de l*alarmer, et de 8*aiTcter en6n. .... 
En nt%liKeaat ce noint mpital, le Congrta s'est compl^te- 
moiit m^pris sur I'mt^rtt principal de TEurope* 11 n'a 
paa connu le clef de la voiite de son propre oavrage," 

• J, M. 

Recapiluhtiom, — ^Tbe pjiges of ** N. k Q." are 
too valuable to be eitcroaclied on by recapitula- 
tions, the ajreater part of wliich might he avoided 
by a reference to the very clear and copious in- 
dices of the Yolnines. In YoL x., p. 494, Mr. 
IIzNar H. Breen ^ivca a r|iiotation from Darwin 
illustrative of the airaile ** Stars and Flowers,'* iind 
refers to Vol. vii. pctssim. N^ow^ if Me Bekeji 
had taken the trouble to verify his passim refer- 
ence, he would have seen that the simile is referred 
to in three places only in the seventh volume; 
and that, in one of those places (p. /SIX), the 

■ quotation from Darv?in (which Mb. Breeit gives 
with the air of ita discoverer) was noted down by 
me. I may also here take the opportunity of 
pointing out another needless recapitulsitton. In 
Vol. ix., p. 346., I gave several parallel passages 
relative to ** Death and Sleep ;" and among them 
I quoted Thomas Warton'a well-known Latin 
epigram on sleep ; * and Peter Pindar a equally 
well-known English version* In Vol. x,, p. 356., 
J. G* again quotes the Latin epigram, " addin*;" 
the linea^ as he says, to the "passages already 
given," with the remark : ** I have heard them 
attributed to an eminent dignitriry in the Churchy 
whose name has escaped me.'' And at p. 412., 
TX. S., after remarking, *^ there are several trans- 
lations or imitations of the defiant lines which 
have been sent you by J. G.," quotes the English 
version of Peter Pindar. Cuthbert Bisds, B.A. 




May T ask whether any of your antiquarian 
readers can inform me what has become of the 
originals of the collection of letters known as the 
Bromley Letters., publishtid by the late Sir Geo, 
Bromley, Bart.» 8vo., London, 1787, printed for 
Stock dale of Piccadilly ? They contain letters to 
and from the Queen of Bohemia and other mem- 
bers of the Palatine family, from whom that of 
Bromley descends, through a natural daughter of 
Prince Rupert, The letters were sold with the 
other eflTects of the late Sir George Bromley, who 
assumed the surname of Pauncefort, at his house 

• Written fer a statue of Sommis, in the garden of 
Mn Harris, father of the ^rst Lord lialmnbury. 

in Eussell Square, in 1809, but wlio was their 
purchaser I am unable to ascertain, unless I can 
do so through your medium, 

I should also be much obliged if any of your | 
correspondents can inform me of letters of Queen 
Henrietta Maria existing in private collections, 
or in print e<l works of not very usual occurrence, 
I am preparing a series of her letters for publica* 
tion, which I wish to render as complete as pos- 
sible. Maby Anhe Evebett Gmsss. 

7. Upper Gower Street. 

^tn0r Oucrti^. 

" Bonnie Dundee** — The tune to wliich Scott's 
Bong, " The Bonnets of Bonnie Dundee," b^iK 
ning : 
** To the Lords of Conveution 'twas Claver'se that apok^* 

is usually sung, is not the tune called ** Bonnie 
Dundee," in Thomson's or Wood's Collection of 
Scotch Sony's. In Scott's Diary (see Lockhart'i 
Life^ vol. vi. p. 170.), l^e says the words wert 
written to the tune of " Bonnie Dundee/' Now, 
is the tune, to which the words are generally Bnng, 
an old air ? Is it the air of ** Bonnie Dundee* 
which was running m Scott's head, when he wrote 
tlie verses ; or what is the history of the air. If 
written to suit Scott's words ? H. E 

Eei>, William Mackwj. — At the cast end of 
l^Iartham Church, Norfolk, are stones commemo- 
rative of the Mackay fjjmiljr, and until recently 
there was one commemorative of himself; it i* 
now removed, owing to the decayed state of the 
tomb, and placed about the centre of the porch in 
the pathway ; it bears the following inscription : 

*' In Memofy of Wm. Mackay, Kector of Fishly, Vicir 
of Upton, Sequestrator of Ranworth, and Curate of Reppt 
with Bast wick. Died July 13, 1752, aged eighty -seven." 

Where can any account of the above be found? 
Did he publish any theological work ; and if so, 
what? J,AV. BiDOLL. 

Great Tarraoutli. 

Doddridge and Whitefield, — Lon« before ths 
existence of " K. & Q.,'* I asked for aa explana* 
tion of the following singular plafrinrism through 
the medium of another periodical, but receiveil no 
satisfactory reply. I trust I may be more fortu- 
nate in my present inquiry- 

In vol IV. of l>oddridge s Collected Worhs^ there 
is a sermon on Luke x. 42., " One thing is need- 
ful;" and the same identical sermon appears 
amongst those of \Miitefield, edit. London, 1825, 
p. 312. 

Can any of your readers account for this t»- 
tounding fact f C. W. BniGOAii. 


Jan. 20. 1855.] 


Tartar Conqtugror* — Who id the Tartar con- 
goeror referred to in the foUowm^puMge of 
i L WOberforce's Inquiry into the iPrmcipUs of 
Omnh Authority f and where ii the statement to 
be found? 

** Those wbotc converse is oolj with books, and who 
Urs ia thftt circle of thougbta which ii lug^e^tcd by our 
great divines, ra^y imagiiie thAt the Church of Engl&ad 
Est oott oQOMbrteat system of te«ching^ and tncolcates a 
iiagle body of truth ; but exticrieace diuipates the de- 
^raUt and ahows such hopes to be like those of the 
Tartar coaqueror, who discarded morning and evening 
pcraver becAUse be ima^ned hinuelf to have reached the 
laad of eurnal sunahint " — P. 279. 

WlLLlAX FbASES, B, C. L , 
Alton* Staffordshira. 

CUtrhson MonxmeTiL — In 1827 a fubscnption 
waa 9et on foot for the erection of a monument 
near Wade's MiU, on the road to Cambridge, the 
apot where Thomas Clarkson conceived the idea 
of entenng on his anti-slavery labours. Was the 
memorial erected F X. 

Copying-ink, — Tot some years I have saved 
ibe expense and the mistakes of an amanuensis in 
copying what T write, by taking fac-siraile copies 
di damped tifsue paper by the simple pressure of 
the hand. For tbb purpose I have useu Tarling*s 
copying-ink, and recently Plowman's. The former 
is frequently so deficient in gum as to fail in 
producing a distioct fac-simile ; and the latter so 
abundant as to smear or run when a copy is taken. 
Can any of your readers tell me what gum is the 
best, and how much should be put to a pint of 
eoHiBion btaclt ink, and if any other ingredients 
iMist be added to produce a distinct fac-^tmile ? 


Yam Ltmput or Hemee. — Since favoured by a 
reply in **X. & Q.," respecting the painter Van 
Lemput, T have in vain endeavoured to trace the 
tfBiie of his sons. 

Ferbaps one of your able correspondents could 
Cali^en me farther on this point. I have been 
told they occasionally bore tne name of Kemee 
(irooi the father's name Remtgius). The family 
U bttlorieally celebrated at Antwerp as well as in 
Utrecht. New Yobk. 

Imacripiion Query. — Between the leaves of my 
OQp>y of Sjlveira*s Commentary on the Acts (foL, 
T«8et^ 1 72d), I found the other day a piece of 
pipcf» rather smaller than an ordinary visiting 
€Bra, wttb the following inscription printed on it, 
caDoept the last numeral, which has been inserted 
with the pen : 

" Anno 1734, 
Capax est 

in Irachcnberg." 

Z AaXi be glad to receive an explanation of it from 
~ r or one of your correspondents, F. A. 

Professors, — What constitutes a professor ?^ 
Many small individuals a&ume that title, and* 
many ^ood philosophers do not use it, althougb 
they give lectures of the highest quality. Mutz. 

Nuns acting as Priests in the Mass* — At a 
short distance from Schafi*hausenf on the Swiss 
side of the Kbine, is a place called Diessenhofen, 
near which there b a con%"ent of Dominican nuns 
dedicated to St. Catherine. In a Guide-book, 
entitled Noupel Ehel. Manuel du Voyageur en' 
Suisse et en Tyrol, \G°** edit., revue et corrig^ 
par L. Maison, Paris, 1852, I find the foUowmg 
account of this convent (pp. 190, 19L) : 

** Avaot DicAscnhofen, on voit le beau convent dtt da 
Ste. CathertQe. It contient auarante religieoaes avec una 

firieure, Du temps de bi reformatioa, ka notmea dirent 
a mease, n'ayont paa dc pretre, et cboiaireat Time d'ellea 
pour faire les foactions de pr^cateur. Les sceors qui 
habiteot malntenant ce couvcnt, fond<^ au xiiiin* st^cUi 
s*abstienaent de toute aoorriture animale ; leur ^gliM eat 
decoree avec beau&>up de magnificence.^ 

What is the truth of this story ? Does it mean 
that one of ihe nuns actually performs the part of 
a priest in the Mass, as well as that of preacher ? 
And are we to infer, from the words "Du temps 
de la reformadon," that the nuns of this place 
have taken upon themselves to act in this way, in 
consequence of having adopted some form of Pro- 
testantism f 

Possibly some of your readers may be able to 
say whether there is any» and what, foundation 
for this singular statement. J. H^ T. 


** What I spent,'' j-c. — The followbg epltapli 
is of course well known : 

** What I spent I bad; 
What I saved I lost; 
What I gave I have," 

But can you or any of your readers give the ori- 
ginal? W-(l) 

Lord Audley at Poietiers. — Do the manuscripts 
preserved in Worcester College Library, Oxford, 
said to describe the achievements of Edward the 
Black Prince, with the names of his English at- 
tendants correctly spelt, contain those of the 
esquires who were companions of the great Lord 
Audley at the battle of Poictiers? BaTTUsnuLP. 

'* Cur mittis violas" j^. — Jovianua Pontanus 
has a short poem commencing ' — 

" Cur mittis viohw? nerapc ut violentius uret ; 
Quid viclaa violis mo riolenta tuis? '* 

I shall be thankful for a copy of the remaining 
linesi, as I am unable, just at present, to lay my 
bands upon the works of this writer. Does Pon- 
tanus dally with other flowers in tliis manner ? 


Triai of Bar ell ofLitdecote. — Is there an j old 
book, 01" pamphlet, giving the detaib of thti irial 
of Dftrell of LkUecote P L, (1) 

Penitentiaries for Females. — When wag tbe 
first jienit*intiary for the restoration of fallen wo- 
men established ? Wag tliere any penitential de- 
partment in any of the religious houses before the 
Steformation ? or is the penitentjarjr, a^ lucla, 
aubdef^ueat to tbat date ? We read that St. Vin- 
cent de Pan! founded one in Paris under the 
superintendence of secular ladies; but tbe insti-^ 
tntbn havin^j very 30>n fallen into abuse, he 
placed it under the care of three nuna of a reli- 
gious order, Tiiia step created, we are told, a 
great deal of surprise at tlje time, and would 
therefore aeem to prove tbnt the Church in 
France at least had not had the penitentiary, as 
ittcb, previous to the time of St/Vincent de Pan!. 

Geo. Xugee, 

Anglo- Sazoftt S^. — Will some one of the An^lo- 
Saxon Btudents wlw> correspond in *' N. & Q. be 
flo good as to inform a lady, whether it would be 
poasible, with limited time and at small expense, 
to obtain n knowledge of that language; and also 
to what extent it would be a useful asAistani in 
tlie study of English etymology ? She would feel 
obliired by the titles of any French or German 
worKM equivalent in those languages to the Diver' 
gimtM of Purleif nnd the works of Messrs, Trench, 
Lower, &e. in our own. A Kbassb, 

Cowley on Shakipmre.—l have a memoranduna 
that Cowley w sis of opinion that the grosser pas- 
SA^ei in the plays of Shakspcare were interpolated 
by the players, but cannot find tbe particular 
reference- If any of your reailers arc atiquainted 
with it<j perhaps they would kindly make tbe re- 
quisite extract, which would be worth a place in 
" N. & Q/' independently of any personal object- 

J. O. i£. 

Theophilm Iscanus. — Who was TheophUus 
XscaDtis, who appeared on Bishop H.iWs sule in 
the Smectymiiuan Controversy, in a tract entitled 
Philadeiphwt vnpulum against Lewis du Moulin? 
He dedicates the work to Bishop Hall ; and from 
the dedication it would appear thiit he was one of 
his lordship's chaplains. It would appear tbat 
Bishop Hall had a chaplain named Jackson ; and 
if 90| can any information be obtained recrardins 
him? W. H. C, 

Niagara, — » What is the supposed depth of 
water as it passes over the edge of the rock in 
this matchless water tall ? MiMi. 

" Tlie Schtyolmasier^ or Teacher of PfiUoMphie.** 
^ I have nn old black-letter tract, bonnd up with 
some others, about 1607-8, signed T, T., and with 
the running title of ** Table Phihsophie :'^ unfor- 
tunately, tbe title-page is wanting : could any of 
your eorreapondenta favour me with an exact 
copy of the title-page ? To assist in the identi- 
fication^ I may add, that in the preface, which 19 
printed in Roman type, the author has these 
words: "And for this cause I l«ve deterrainetl 
to in title this work The SchoohutMier, or Teacher 
of Table Phiiosophie^ and have divided the same 
into foure severall partes." And then he f^oes on 
to give the ** argument thereof." W. H. C 


['Ffaia work is by Tbomai Twine or T«ryne. Hie ftl^ 
lowing is a copy of the titk-pa^e : — *• Th« SclusoleuaafcK, 
or Teaser of Table Pliylosophie. A mo«C pleasAxit and 
merie Companion, w^U worthy to be welcomed (fcr a 
dsjlj Gbeast) nit onelye to all moos boordc; to gnidk 
ibein with moderate and hobome dytii; bat wAao iiM» 
euery mans companie at all tymes, to recreat tbcir 
mindes, witb honest mirth and deloctaUe deoiscs: to 
sundry ple^aaant purpnsea of pli»iuace and paatynui 
% Gathered out of diuer*. the beat approucd Auctliun: 
and deuidod into foiin^ pithy and pb'asiat Treotiso^ if 
it ma)' appj?are by the conteTites. ^ Imprinted at Loa* 
don by Richard lobnes^ dwelHng at the Signe of fke 
Hose and the Crown, neere Holbanie Bridge. ldS8.*'] 

Conway er Book of Prayers, — T have in Of 
possession a curious and early book of pmyen 
entitled : 

*' Moflitatiofts and Pntiers grathflTPd out of the Snemi 
Let tern and Tertaous Writox^, disposed in Fonnxie of Ifaa 
Alphabet of the Queene her MoaL Excellent MMeetui 
Xarae^ Imprinted at London to Bleet Street, by Hemy 

The dedication to Elizabeth is signed J. Coa- 
waye. Any information respecting tbe yoIoioc 
or its compiler will oblige* TwiiT. 


[Sir JohnConwiy, of Arrow, in Warwickshire, beiog 1 
person of ffreat skill in military nfraira, was made gowoor 
of Oatend by Robert, Earl of Leit^ter, Dec, 29, t58f 
(;29 Eli&abethl tiie oaid Earl being then general of tAs 
English aoidttaKiM In b^atf of the States of th^ United 
F'rovioces. From some cause or ether, Sir John wts 
made a prisoner; as the Harleian MS. No. 287, foL 103, 
contains '*an original Ittter of Sir John Conwav to Sir 
Francis Waliin^ham, dated at Ostcnd, ScpL 8, 1588^ 
concerning hi« imprisonment, and of the uses ihit joaj 
be made of Bernyy the spy^ who hjns great credit witn 
the Prince of Parma'* Daring his contiaeniait. Sir J 
wrote hifl " Pos}i> of Flowred Praiers " on hia tveo4 
** witk tea thy pen sell of laade." He died Oct. 4, 160S^ 
See Dugtlale a JFarwickMhirt^ vol il pp. 850, 851, cdiiL 

** Tableau de Pam " — Wbo ii tbe autbor of % 
work, which appears to have been produced 
pGriodicftlly, entitled Tfibleau de Pari* f 
edition I possess is in twelve volumes octavo, 


Jan. 20. 1855.] 



I the 

on lit title-p«ge there is " Noavelle edition, cor- 
rig^ et augment^, k Amstenlam, 1783." In 
the AvertistemerU dts Ediieurs it Ib called an 
llthisi in four volume*, and another edition of 
Sieur Sfonuel Fauehe pere is spoken of m a 
defective copy of the first edition in two volumeB 
which appeured in June, 1781, und "which, ap- 
pear mg at a distance of a hundred leagues from 
the author, Is itaelf very imperftict.'' Awa?f- 

[Thb work ifl b}r Lotus- S^bastien Mercfer, acccmliiig to 
BArbier, Dktkmmawe dSu (hwra^n. Bm dm Qa^rardp Im 
France LitUraire, a, &] 

Long 5. — la it known what adventurous printer, 
and at what date, first disused the long j f In a 
cursory exaininatiou of several books, tlie latest 
which 1 find printed with the lon^^ m is The Di- 
versions of Purley^ printed by J. Johnson, 1805, 
Probably some of your carrespondentj remeniber 
noticing ihii innovation, which seems to have taken 
place soon after 1800. £dbn Wabwick. 

[Mr, J. Bdl, Ixrokseller in th« Strand, who printvil *ind 
palili»ihcil nn edition of SAcc^bpeoref The Bntiah Theutrt^ 

and Ifie Pfiettt about 1795» flout aet the example;, wUich 
aoon became general of diMording the Long t As the 
El2«v]r tyiJ€ is oow coming into fashion, the long f, and 
itM combinatjons, will rerolnd ua of olden times.] 

Tteo Suniamts joined htf Alias, — ^Ooe \% con- 
tinually meeting this, a^ ** Simon Sudbury, alias 
Tihiihl, Archbinhop of Canterbury, 1381.'* Per- 
haps some of your readers would obligingly assign 
tile reason of it ? Auab^ 


[Gcwlwin, in his Catalogtu of the Bishop* of Snpland, 
p. lOL, thus (explains it; ** This Simon waji the M>nne of 
a gentJeman nained Ntgeiln'^ Tilxtld^ so that his true 
nnnie was Simon Tibold. But he was borne at Sudbury, 
a town of Sidfolk, in tbc panJsh of S, George, and of that 
toiiirne lookt his n:imii^, accti'rding to the manner of many 
cleargymen in ihoae dales." See a notiue of this prelate 
^^ ^* N. k Q,/* Vol. v^ p. 194.] 

^H^ Sir Thomas Tresham, — In what work can I 
^Bbid a detailed aitcount of Sir Tbonuis Tresbani^ 
^^mther of the Gunpowder Plot conspirator ? 
r E. P. IL 

[Some fe!W notice* of Sir Thomas Treshnm may be 
gleari^ed from liridges' Northamptomkire^ toI. ii. pp.' 324. 
874, Ac.; FuUer'a Worthki^ art, NoiiTHAMrroNHfitRE; 
Lalaod^A Itimrury^ vol. vL p« 3^. ; Beautiea of England 
I amd Walt*^ rol. xi* p. 160.; and GcnL Jlag, for August, 
1808, p. 680.] 

Cohplim, — Unde derivatur ? J, M, 

[Colophon is derived from a city of that name in Tonia, 
north-west of EpheiiLs and one of the places tlut con- 
teodwl fbr the birth of Homer. The Colophoniaoa were 
excel ten L horeemeo, and gent^rally tumiid the scale on 
aide on which they fought; hence the proverb, 
Ka^¥* imnBitMti" — ** to add a Colophonian" — put 
_ \e j!nis)iing hand to an affair ; hence also. In the early 
fjeriods of printing, Ihe last things printed at the end of 
tkB book was called the cohphan. The 

excel I 

used by the Romany ai well ea by Eramtaa, whose words 
are Cotophomm axMidi — ** I have pui the liniahing toufjh 
to it." Consult Lemprifcre'* Qas»irai Diet by Ant h on and 
Barker, and Thomas s Httt. of Printing in Aiaerico, vol. i. 
p. 14.] 

Nottingham Butts. — ^Will you inform imt where 
I can meet wifh a good account of the Nuttinghaxn 
Eiota, which took place Eome time about the pass* 
ing of the Reform Bill ? \Y. K Howl^tt- 

Kirton in Lindaey. 

[A long account of the nota at Nottingham on the 
memorable days of Oct. 9Lh, 10th, and llth, ISai, when 
the Ciutle and Mr. Lowe's silk mill were demolished, will 
be found in the ]^ottiagh<im Jovmal of Oct. 15, 1831, and 
in the Nottingham Review of Oct 11, 1S.11, which waa 
moat probably copied into the London papers,] 


1>CA!C BlhL, 

(VoL Tii., p. 266. ; Vol 3c.» p, 530.) 

I shall be very much obliged to A. H. JiC^ 
M. L. B.^ or to any other correspondent of ^"^ N. & 
Q.," to fiimish me with particulars of the ancostrj 
of this worthy reformer. 

As a clue^ I will recite all that I have been able, 
with limited reaourcca, to collect, William Bill, 
D.D^ was appointed Master of St, John's College, 
Cambridge, in 1^46. He was invited to Trinity 
College, and became the second master on that 
foundation in 1551* Queen Mary ejected him in 
1553, and be was restored by Qiiecu Ktizabetb In 
1556, In the ftdlowing year Dr. Bill was ap- 
pointud, with several other learned divines, Arch- 
bishop Parker being at their bead, to take a re- 
view of ibelwo litnrtfies of King Edward VI., and 
to frame from them a Book of Common Prayer 
for the use of the Church of England. On the 
21 St of May, 1560» Queen Eliziibeth re founded the 
eatabliahnieut at Westminster Abbey aa a col- 
legiate church, to be governed by a dean and 
chapter, and appoinit^d Dr. Bill to be the first 
dean. lie died 15tb June, 15G1, in possession of 
the Deanery, the Mastership of Trinity CoHesei 
and, 1 believe, the Provostship of Efon, Bnrke, 
in his Armory^ says that Dr. Bill's niece, the heir 
of his elder brother Thomas Bill, of Ashwell, co. 
Hertford, married James Huydock of Greywell, 
CO. Sou t ha nip ton. In his ilxiinct Baronetage, 
under the fiiniUy Samwell he says that Francis 
Sam well, Esq., of Cotsford, co. Oxford, who re- 
moved first to the town of Northampton, and 
a/terwards settled at Rothersthorpe in that shire, 
waa auditor to Henry VIII., and married Marvv 
sister to the Rev. William Bill, D.D., of Ashwell, 
CO. Hertford, almoner to Queen Elizabeth, by 
whom he had Issue Sir William Samwell, atiditor 
to Queen Elizabeth, knighted by James L, and 
ancestor of the baronets of that family. 


[No. 273. 

I tttve never b«cn able to ascertain whether the 
Dean was married, or to connect him with the 
Staffordshire family. Richjird Bill of Rolleston, 
CO. Stafford, the first I notice in that county, was 
born about twenty years after the Dean's death. 
He married Elizabeth, daughter and heir ess of 
Robert Slienton, of Farley, Esq,, and died circa 
1640, leaving issue three sons: 1. John, who inhe- 
rited Farley ; he lefl an onl? daughter and heiress, 
Elizabeth, who built Farley Ilall. 2. Richard, 
who died without issue. 3* Robert of Stanton, 
the ancestor of the present family ; he had three 
sons, of whom Richard, the eldest, repurchased in 
1699 the Farley estate, wbich had been sold in 
1679 by Elizabeth Bill's son and heir. 

In the Manual of J3ran,^ejf, published at Oxford 
in 1848, it 13 recorded, that on Dean Bill's sepul- 
chral slab in Westminster Abbey, his coat of arms 
in brass, now lost, bore — Ermine^ two wood-bills 
sable, with long handles, proper, in saltire ; on a 
chief azure, a pale or, charged with a rose gules, 
between two pelicans* heads erased at the neck 
argent, Burke, in his Armortf^ gives a similar 
coat to the Bills of Staflordshire, the only differ- 
enfie being, that the wood* hi lis arc called battle- 
axes, the pale is argent, and the pelicans are 
vulning thcmselyes. But he gives to Dean Bill a 
coat altogether difTerent, vrz.. Or, a fret sable 
within a bordure engrailed azure, on a canton 
argent, five martlets in saltire sable. The con* 
fltruction of the first coat, the rose borne on a pale 
in the chief, savours of the Westminster arms *, 
and I should almost infer, from this circumstance, 
that these hearings were granted to the Dean 
during the short time he presided over that 
Chapter. If this suggestion be correct, no doubt 
a record of tlie grant, with perhaps some account 
of his family, is still extant in the College of 
Arms. A search there, or in the Ilarleian MB, 
Ko. 1546., in the British Museum, which contains 
the visitation of the county of Hertford, by Robert 
Cooke, Clarencieux, in the year 1572, might pro- 
duce a solution to A. R. M/s Queries : Chauncey's 
Hertfordshire^ or Clutter budcV, might be con- 
«ulted. Patoncb. 



(Vol.x., p,282.) 

^ The French philosophes^ and Voltaire in par- 
ticular, have sins enough of their own to answer 
for, without being made accountable for those 
which the malJce or ignorance of their opponents 
has attributed to them, and any explanation that 
should exonerate them from the blasphemy im- 

• This it not an uniMttftl moile of differencing the shield 
of p«r9oujt coanected with VWstiiunster; e.q. the jLnns of 
Lorda Tharlow, Eldan, Wyuford, and Lang^ale. 

plied In their eerases Vinfame^ would be on act of 
justice as well as a tier vice to the cause of truth. 

In France, the erroneous interpretation of thia 
phrase is not confined to the illiterate classes, who 
are obliged to take all such matters upon trust, 
but is adopted and inculcated by professors of 
divinity, and others engaged in the education of 
youth. The wonder seems to be how, with the 
context so clear and so pointedly expressed, as in 
the passage quoted by Me. Db Moegan, thi^ un* 
founded imputation should have received such 
general assent. As aids towards a solution of 
this difficulty, I beg leave to offer the folio wing 

1 . lu the belief of the majority of Roman Ca- 
tholics, what Voltaire calls "superstition" is 
bound up with the essence of " religion.** To ai- 
siiil the one is to assail the other ; and the man 
who should hold up either as mffwie^ is as culpable, 
in their eyes, as if he applied the term lo the 
Divine Founder of Christianity. 

2. Of all controversialists Voltaire la the most 
unscrupulous. In the passage cited by Mb. D« 
Morgan, he draws a distinction between ** super- 
stition '* and ** religion," and tulks of bis love and 
respect for the latter. But we all know that this 
is a mask. His attacks upon religion are not 
confined to what an enlightened Protestant might 
deem its " superstition,*' but extend to the under- 
mining of its fundamental truths. In this unholy 
warfare» satire, sarcasm^ irony, abuse, arc alike 
unsparingly employed; and as to miisrepresent- 
alien, be never comes across a text of Scripture, 
the meaning of which he does not distort to serve 
his purpose. These tricks of dislortion are part 
of his grand scheme for bringing Christianity mto 
contempt ; and those who know with what acerbity 
and unmirncss religious controversies are generallj 
conducted, will not be surprised to find thai Vof- 
taire*s opponents have resorted to the same un* 
justifiable weapons, which he had wielded with so 
much success against them. ' 

3. It is clear that at first Voltaire used the ex- 
pression ecrasez tinfiime m the restricted sense 
of the passage quoted by Mn. De Moioajc. But 
afterwards it became a sort of watchword among 
his disciples ; and the use of it, in this isolated 
form, by writers who were known to carry their 
abhorrence of religion to a fiendish excess, natu*" 
rally led to the supposition that by Tinfdme they 
wished to designate the author of what they la* 
boured to represent as a tissue of '* infamy/* 

There is a slight apparent inaccuracy in one of 
Mm. De Morgan's remarks, which he will pardoa 
me for adverting to. After quoting Voltaire*i 
words, he adds : " consequently infame is a femi- 
nine noun.** This has reference to the passage 
quoted, and so far we understand what is meant ; 
butt taken in an absolute sense, it might lead to 
misconception^ If infame were a feminine i&oujif 

jAi^. 20. 1855.] 



the phrase ecrasez rinfame could never have been 
underfeitocMl hf any oue as applicable to Jesufl 
Christ. The tact is, in/dme is an adjective, and is 
the same in both genders, When used as a noun, 
as in the passage from Voltaire, the elision leaves 
it doubtful whether the nrticle intended be le ur 
la ; nor la this uncertaintj removed till we come 
to la and elle in the subsequent part of the sen- 
tence. HE^SHY II. BE££5. 
St. Lucia. 


(Vol. X., pp. 242. t^55, 356. 510.) 

Mr. Hayes's sug(;estion as to the probable cir- 
cumstance which led the Greek surgeons to stop 
hollow teetb, Is, I think, inadccpiate, especially as 
the fact of the imbedding of a grape or any other 
seed in the hollow of a decayed tooth would not 
BtTord relief^ on the contrary, the swelling of the 
seed after it bad remained awhile in such a po- 
sition, would produce inconvenience, patn, and 
sometlnicB intense Buffering, as I have more than 
once experienced. It i^, however, matter of less 
importance whence the practice was derived, than 
whether we possess reliable evidence of tbe fact^ 
nor 13 it atTected by tbe condition of the material 
used. Teeth were stopped with several intentions, 
— to prevent their breakinp during extraction, to 
preserve them, and to aUeviLite pain. Celsus gives 
the following advice as to the first : 

" Tum» SA fieri potest^ fnanu ; at roiiiu?, forficc dens es- 
cipit'ndus. Ac, Ri exc3U» tsU ante id foramen vel JiniL- 
mento, vd imte accommodato plambo reptendum est."^ 
Lib. viL i\ xii. 

How the lead was prepared for this purpose we 
have no information. 

Paul us ^gineta ^Adams's Tranfr., published by 
tbe Sydenham Society), vol, ii. p. 294,, also ad- 
vises the filling a carious tooth with a small tent, 
with the same object as mentioned by CcUus. 
Marcel I us recommends tilling a hollow tooth with 
gum from the ivy to prevent ita falling out. Se- 
rapion, tbe filling a like tooth, and painful, with 

Aa regards filing teeth, Faulus iEgineta advises 
that an unusually large tooth, or the projecting 
portion of a broken oncj be scraped away with a 
fie, Albucasis gives directions for fding down 
the teeth for fastening them with gold threads, 
and gives drawings tor extracting the fangs of 
teeth. (P. j^ginct., vX suprit, vol. ii, p. 295.) 

The references given to Mk. Hates by >L D. 
will supply him with avast amount of information 
on the subject to which he has turned his at- 
" cntion. R. Wildbaham Faxcoheh, M.D. 



Br&mo-iodide of Siho-.^l have read tbe communi* 
cations of ^Ib, Leachman atid Mb, Lyth on thia photo- 
genic agent wttli much mLere4t» and in reply I beg to 
ofTflr the following obaervations. Mr. Leacumax proves 
that bromide of silver is entirely dissolved in a saturated 
BoUition of muriate of ammonia, and that bromo-iodidf of 
flilver (for such iH, in fact, the precipitate he forms thougU 
he doubt* it) is altogether iaaoluble tn that nienRtrunm. 

Mit, LvTB proves that iodide of silver and the **so* 
called bromo- iodide of ailver," when digested in strong 
liq, amm.t are each similarly acted upon by an excels of 
dilute nitric acid. He then forms a true bromo-iodide of 
silver, but in such combinatiofi as to exhibit the same 
kind of milkinesA which occura with pure bromide of 
silver on the addition of an acid ; and hence he leads to 
the conclusion that bromide, and not Jodide, of silver is 
exhibitetl by this exp-eriment ; whereas Mr. Li-acumaji 
thitik» that'by Ins experiment on the same double com- 
pound, the precjpit.ite cannot he bromide of silver at all, 
but mu5t evidently bo the iodido. In ttiia point of view, 
therefore, to use a* legal formula, the case is one of Lrr& 

I now offer with some confidence the following e^tperi- 
tnrntum crndt^ as a proof of the accuracy of my former 
statement :^ — Form bromide of silver by the addition of 
the nitrate lo bromide of potnssinm; wash the precipitate, 
and dissolve it in an excess of bromide of potassium. It 
U scarcely necessary to say that bromide of silver ia 
thrown down on dilating this solntion with water. 
Next, form iodide of silver and dissolve it ia an excess of 
iodide of potassium. Mix the two solutions together to 
form a bromo- iodide of silver; and should any cloudiness 
appear, it is immodifltely removed bv the addition of a 
few grains of iodide of {potassium. Now the addition of 
water to this compound so entirely throws down tho 
whole, both of tbe bromide and Iodide of silver (or, as w» 
may now term it, the bromc- iodide of silver), that not a 
traoe of silver h to tie found in the filtered supernatant 
fluid. Hydrochloric acid, that stcra detector of silver, 
leaves it ns clear as rock-crystal. I cannot dlevise a more 
stringent fornmla of verification as to the correctness of 
Dr. Di.iitosD'd theorj'; and when we find that in prac- 
tice the results he obtains can be arrived at by no other 
method, it is probable that his present opponents will b© 
converts to hia views, J. B. Relvde. 

The Photographic EThlhitiim, — The display of photo- 
graphic pictures this year is most satisfactory' % not only 
as sho¥nn£; tlie gradual progress and general improve- 
ments of the art, but also for the evidence it affords of 
the many purposes to which the art is applicable. We 
cannot enter into details of the beauty of the kndscapea, 
&c,, by Jlr. Fen ton, Mr. Ddamotte,' Mr. Leverett, Mr. 
Stokes^ &c. ; of Mr. Mayall's admirable portraits and won- 
drous stereoscopic likenesses; of the excellence of some 
of the small collodion positives exhibited by Mr. Rosling ; 
of the "clouds'* and portraits of Mr. Hennah ; or of the 
promising ptcturt^ of Mr. Lake Price: all thew!» excellent 
as they are, belong, with the exception perhaps of Mr. 
Pnce*s works, to general photography — and admirable 
they are. But there are some of the more special pur- 
poses to which photography has been applied with most 
sattsfactory results, to wliich we would nither direct 
attention. Its application to the physiognomy of disease, 
as shown by Dr. DiAMONo'a •* Melancholy v* to the 
microscope, aa shown hy Mr. Ringaley^s beautiful illus-* 
t rations of the **Brcfithmg System of Insects^" ^^\ ""o 
striking instances of this. Not less so are the Count 
de Montlzon's 'zoological portrait?, which m.ike him the 
Landseer of photography j Mr. Contencin^s copies of 


[No. 273.' 

pariniia m chalk; wid, lastly* Mr, Thurston Thompson's 
copies of the Raphiiel drawings belonging to [Jer Mujesly. 
Hmd we bui theae, w« ahould scarcely envy Her Majesty 
the poMeMion of the originaU. 

Aflilitif to SBinOT <ftufr»<. 

quoted b^f Lord Derby (VaL x*, 
p» 524,)* — Lord Derbj^ as reporte^l^ certuitily 
misquuied the epigram, but so does Jatdee in its 
best point. The true and pungent reading is, — 

" Lord ChaLhani with hija sword widravru. 
Is waiting for Sir Kitbard Strachanj 
Sir Eichjircl longing to be at tliciti. 
Is waiting fur the Earl of Chatham/' 

Unlike most epigraioB, the point was in the first 
line, the " uword muiraamj" I well remeaiber its 
first appearance {In, I think, the Mormtig Chro' 
nicle), and vr« thought it was Jekjirs ; aoroe one 
afierwardj atlded a couplet, not verv neatly ex- 
pressed, but quite as near the historical truth as 
the rent : 

** What then, ia nitflchiief*B name, can atop 'em? 
They both am vrailiag for Home Popham.^* 


Cfuriaua Ceremony at Queens College^ Oxford 
(Vol. x,» p. 306.) —The practice of scjholari wait- 
ing upon the Fellows* table was dtacontinued in 
the year 1796* I am assured, by one who haii 
hlinstjlf waited in this way, that I be ceremony al- 
luded to by Dr. Barrington was a joke^ never a 
prftctiue. H. H. Wooi>. 

d'b CoU. 

Anastatic Printing (Vol. x.» pp. 288. 364.). -- In 
repljr to your correspondent J. P., I beg to ob- 
tenre that he will obtain the infurmatiun he re* 
quires in a work pubLi^ihed in 1849 by Boyne, 
entitled On the various AppUcatums of AnoMtatic 
Printit^ and Pap^frographg^ bj P. II. De la 
Matte. J* IL Gutck. 

Paris Garden (Vol x„ p. 423.)— M». J. E»- 

HonDs wilt find the followin<^ mention of it made 
ill Mr. Cuoningkani's Handbook : 

^A maiKir or lil»efty on the Baakside in Soutbwifk, so 
called tr>im EoUert de Paris, who hod u house and garden 
Ibere in Uichard 11. ''t time, who by proclamation or- 
dained thii the butchers of London ahtiald btiy that 
■asdaii lor the receipt of their garbage and entrails of 
DHpt% to ^M aad the citr might nnt be aunoved thereby. 
^Blomit's Gtotmrn^jkia, e± Un, p, 473. 

**Thia manor aAenrarvh appertained ti> the monastery 
oi St. Sav^iour's^ lknnond»«y, and at the diHEolcttion to 
Henry VJIL It vra» !>iobi««f{ueotly held by Thomas Cure, 
fcMuidar of the ahju-lmusji'.s in Soinhwark wldch bear his 
same; and bit of all by Hich, Tavern er and William 

** A circas axiited in the umium' of Paris Garden, etrected 
for boll Mid beiir-bjiiting, a« ejirly as the 17 Henry VEIL, 
whei) th« hari of NortbumberLand ia aaid (in tbi^ 11oum>- 
hold Book of the tamdy) to hare goao to Paiis Uarden to 

' behold the bear-baiting there. The beat riwr of Pans 
Garden Tliciitre forms the frontispiece to the fiooood 
\o\ of {^oWier^tt Anntdg of the Stagt»'* 

I ''Riditis Bodkin** (Vol. x., p, W> — I pre- 
1 aume N, E. T. had exhausted all the sources of 
; intormuliun usually atlainuble, such H3 Johasoa^t 
Dictioitury and \u eotdrerea, before be burtheiied 
your paper with the Query ubove referred to. I 
therefore give an exphLnation us given to ine mare 
than once by a learned man and diligent antiquary, 
the late Henry Thomas Payne, Arehdeaeun of 
St. Davitfis. *^ Bodkin" is bodjkin (little body), 
a8 manikin (little nniii)^ and was a little person to 
whose company no objection could be iuuJe oo 
aiM-'Ount of mom occupied by the two persons ac- 
commodated in the corners of the carria<ie. 



Spftnish Epi^am (YoL x, p. 445.).^ — May not 

J. P. R. have mistaken the following IfaUan fort 

Spanish epigram, in praise of small things some* 

times enfolding in thenaselves the largest value f 

\ A huge lump of coal cries out : 

I " Bcnchfc son' nevo, sono gigante.^ 

To this boast a tiny but sparkling apeok of 4iik> 
mood answers : 
I " B«fteh^ ana' ptocoloi aoao bdllante.'* 

Ahigail Hill rVoL x«, p. 206.).— The notorioof 
Mrs. (a Lady) Mashani was dau^diter of Frwidl 
Hill, a Turkey merchant, and sisJter of General 
John Hill of Enfield Green. Her husband Samud 
Mdfihuui was in 1711 created Lord Mash&m, which 
title expired with bis sou Samuel, the second baroD, 
in 1776. 

Can any of your correspondents inform me 
whether Sir S^ipio Hill, baronet of Scotland, wiis 
connected with this family, or which was his 
parentage ? He was certainly an Englishmati ; and 
m the notice of his death in 1729, he is called **• 
gentleman whose character is very well kMOwa," 
He was a colonel m the army, and served in Scot- 
, land, where he was concerned in the massacre of 
Glencoe. From a litigation in 1711 m the ScotUsh 
courts, he seems to have been a gambler. B. E. 

I A Russian and an English Regiment (Vol. xi., 
p. 8.). — Coleridge's Fhijsnd has, ludicrously 

I enough, kicked down his own anecdote ; for he 
says that the critic on national physiognomies that 
he f J notes was in truth so miserable a judge aa to 
mistake CoLKim>GB'8 Faitsn for a Neapulitatu 
I do not remember when a Russian and an English 
regiment were likely to have been drawn up in 
the same snuore at Naples ; but if both regiments 
had been English or both Russian, but that one 
had been cieajt shaven, while thti other won; be&nls 


AN, 20. 1855.] 


and moustftches, a Jooker-oti would &e£ more ind'i- 
yiduolity uf countenojice m the regiment that was 
ahaveii* NoYActii4i» 

7*he Episcopal Wig (Vol. xL, p. 1 K), — I be- 
lieve that the firat biahops thut appeared witbout 
wigs in the House of Lords were boidc of tlie 
Irish hisibops after tlie Union* I remember par- 
ticularly that Archbishop Kereaford, who bad a 
very fine figure, a bjild patriarchal bead, and most 
beaevulent expresaioi) at* coynterianee, made a 
great and favourable imprei^siijii anionirat his pe- 
ntqued brethren of England ; but the custom waa 
not rreiieral even an tlie Ii i»h bench. The adop- 
tion of it by English bEahops has been recent^ I 
remember to have heard, fifty yeara ago, that an 
English bi»hop, whose name 1 heard but have for- 
gotten^ applied to George IIL tor his sanction to 
leave oS the wtg^ alleging that the bii^bopa of even 
aa Lite as the seventeenth century wore, as their 
pictures testified, their own hair. *' Yes, my 
lord/* said the king, '* but the same pictures bliow 
that they then also wore beards and luoustachios. 
I suppose you would hardly like to carry out the 
precedent. 1 think a distinetj«n of some sort 
necessary, and I am sati&fied with that which I 
End establlBhed/* C. 

I believe that the present Bishop of London 
WHS the first to commence the disuse of the un- 
sightly and nneeclesiasticul wig. When a loyalist 
Cantab appeared in the recently imported 
Louis XI\. wig, Charles H. issued an order for- 
bidding such imitation of lay costume. Tillotson 
is the first bishop represented in a wig, and wrote 
a sermon to defend himself. The archbishopB and 
Bishops of Gloucester and Durhaai alone retain 
it, I believe. Anti-Wig, 

Rihhamo/ Recruiihig Sergeanit (Voi xi., p. II.)- 
— Allow me to answer Russell Golb by asking 
him in return why eockades are worn ? why 
ribbons are worn by parties at eleetioas ? why by 
benefit dubs on Whit Monday? why by Iree- 
maaons ? why by horses in a fair? why by ladies 
at all times? and why by princes, lords;, and 
heroes when they can get them — blue, green, or 
red? Simply for distinction, to attract attention. 

A KiBuoifMaK. 

Kecmiting ribbons show the colours of the 
clothing of the particular regiment for which the 
party is employed. W'e have red, white, and blue 
for a royal regiment, the red cloth, white lace, and 
blue facings : other corps have yellow, ereen, buff, 
black and nurple ; in such cases no blue is em- 
ployed in tbe cockade nnd ita strearoeri. 


AccaurU of Ike Jt$bilee (Vol. xi., p. 13.)* — An 

ccount of tbe celebration of the jubilee was 

printed in quarto by Mr. R, J a bet, ju-ojirietor of 

tbe Commercial fferaid, Birminghatn, either in 
the year 1809 or 1810; and bears aa & frontia- 
piece a very excellent portrait of George lU,, 
drawn and engraved by F. Egginton of liirming* 
ham, Tbe volume consists of 203 pages; and 
contains, according to the alphabetical order of 
the counties, accounts, in some instances eopioua, 
of the rtijoicings upon this occasion in the various 
cities, towns, and villages in the kingdom. I 
should have stated, that the btmk begins with the 
eelebration of the jubilee in the metropolis. The 
title-page states that tbe compilation was made 
by a lady, the wife of a naval officer. This was 
really the case. Her name was Davis, and she 
resided at Solihull, Warwickshire. The expetiaes 
of the work were defrayed by subscription, of 
which the book furnishes the names of nearly 
850 subscribers. The profits were given to the 
Society for the Belief of Prisoners confined for 
Small Debts. Tbe work is curious, and I know 
of no other i»imilar account of this celebrated 
natirnml njoicing. From some knowledge of the 
family of the printer of the work, I ibink it may 
be stated that but few copies Ibuod their way to 
other persons than the subscribers. 

JoHTt WoDD^aspoojr, 






Trwe Crwf, Relic of, i« the Tower (Vol, xi^ 

p. 12.), — I am enabled so far to enlighten J. A- D, 
on the above^ as to inform him that I ha\e seen a 
small piece of wood, with accompanying docu- 
ments attesting that it was a portion of the stump 
of the true Cross, and that it was formerly kept in fl 
the Tower of London among tbe jewek of Kin^ ^ 

James I, I begged a splinter of thin, oml have it 
frtill ; set in a silver fUkgree croaa, with crystal on 
both sirles, in the fc>rm of a cross. It la moira 
than thirtv years since this occurred, bttt I W- 
member thinking the attestations very curious h 

and worthy of credit. If I do not mistake, thej H 

accounted for the way in which the supposed ^ 
relic was removed from the Tower, and came into 
the possession of the party who then held it. If 
I can obtain farther particulars, they shall be 
given ; but, at this distance of time, I alnioi*t de- 
spair of finding tbe person in whose hands the 
treasure then remained. F, C. Husenbkts, 

ThelaetJacobUes (VqI x., p.507,).— Valentkift 
Lord Cloncurry was a nobleman who was on very 
intimate t^irms with Cardinal York. Whether 
he was one who ^* indulged the hope of pUdng 
him upon the throne of Great Britain '' or not, I 
cannot say. But it lookit su«picioujs, when we bear 
in mind that as a young man he joined, heart and 
foul, the anti -government party, was an United 
Irishman, became a member of the Executive' 
directory of the United Irish Society, wrote A 
pamphlet, and becoming an object of government 








auspicioti, was arreated in 1798, and examined 
several times before the privj cotin€il. A twelve- 
month later the government ngam arrested him, 
and kept him in tSe Tower for two years. In htg 
autobiography, amongst some sketches of his vibUs 
to France and Italy, he thus speaks of the last of 
the Stuarts : 

"Amongst tbe prominent members of Roman societj' in 
thttse days was the last of the Staftrts, Cardinal 1 ork^ 
with wbom I became soDiewhut cf a favourite probably 
by virtue of addreMiue him m * Alajesty/ and thus goinj^ 
ft step farther than the Duke of Suiaex^ who wa« on 
{junihar tertiis with him, and always apphed to htm the 
style of Royal Highness, . . , , , .'Upon the occasion of 
my visit t^'Fraa<!ati, T presented the cardinal with a tole- 
icope, which he neemed to fancv\ and receiv^efl from him 
in return the large modal stntck in bouour of his acces- 
fioa to his unBubstantlal tbronc. Upon one side of tbia 
medal was the royal bust, with the cordmari haUand the 
words *!Ietiricu« noaua I>ci ^atia rex;* and upon tho 
other the arm» of England, with the motto on tlic exer^e, 
• Hand desideriis honiinum, ted voluntate Del.* " — Pcrtowil 
Brcolfeetitttrs of' thf Lijr and TimeSj ^, of Lord Qoncurry : 
Dublin, McGWhan. 


Druitfa CircU (Vol. x.» p. 524.),— In Rhodes's 
Peak Scenery it \a aaid : 

**Near Middleton-by-Youl grave we found the cele- 
brated Druidic-al monument of AAttr-Lovt one of the mo«t 
atriking remain* of antiquity in any part of Derby»hirie, 
This circle inclodea an area of from forty to ^fty yards 
diameter, formed by a wriea of large unhewn ftton^ not 
BtandtDg upnght, but all laid on the ground, with an 
inclination toward^s the centre : round theae, the rematna 
of a ditch, circumscribed by a high embankment, may be 
traced. Kear the south entroinee into this circle, there is 
a mount or buri&Nplace ; in which some fraji^ent^ of an 
nm, some holf-bumt bones, and the homa of a etag were 

Your corresfpondent L, M. M. R. will obaerve 
the name is Arber-Lott^ not Arbelon^ as stated in 
the Query. John Algob. 

Bishop Andrewea* Pujis (Vol. ix., p. 350,)» — 
The play upon words, so frequent in the sermons 
of that holy maUj was the vice of the age, A few 
instances will, probably^ suffice your correspon- 

** Their anointing may dry up* or b€ wiped off ; and &o 
IdngB be uiichrklcd, eease to be Chrieti Dominu" — 
8c rm. lU. on Gowrio*a Gm*piracyt P* 56. 

" Tho train readv, and the match ; they stayed but for 
the coHt for the time, till all were con ; that is, nmul 
mmptf, and then ronsumpti sbottld have straight come 
upon aO." — /6. Sermon IV. p. 26tj, 

Some curious particulars might be collected 
respectinjT quaint texts and germous, such as that 
of the Dean of St* Stephen**, when Vienna was 
relieved by King John Sobieski of Poland (St. 
John i. 6.) ; and that of Dr. South before the 
Merchant Taylors* Company : " A remnant shall 
be saved," Romans ix. 27. ; and Dr. Gardmer*s 
Sermon on Dtrht/Mhire. (Select, fr^im Gent. Mag.^ 
ToL iii. p, 420.} MaciLBSfziE Wai*cott, M.A. 

Bolingbrok^s Admce to Swift (VoL 3C.»p. 34C.).— 

** Nourrisser bien votrc corps ; ne le fatigaer jamais j 
laisser rouillor Peaprit, meublo inutil, votre oatil dan- 
gereux j laiaaer ?oupcr nos clochej* le matin pour tfvatler 
le« chanoine^, et pour faire dormir le doyen d'uti sommail 
doux et profond, qui lai procure dc beaux aonges; lerex- 
vouB tard,*" &c. 

The mistakes in this quotation are all reducible 
to misprints. The verbs " nourrisser," " fatiguer," 
"laisser" (the imperative mood being intenil' ii 
should terminate in z instead ofr; inutU BhniM 
be inntile^ and nos is a misprint for vos^ unless 
it can be supposed that Bolingbroke meant to 
describe himself as one of the eanons of St, 
Patrick's. The only difficulty is the word souptr, 
where Bolin;;broke is made to recommend that the 
bells should be allowed to have their supper, and 
that too in the morning. Ma, I?coleby suggests 
soupir^ or, as better still, 8*assoupir: but, in mj 
opinion, neither is admissible. Lamer sonpir U ob- 
viously incorrect : Simpir is a noun, and ledsttr 
requires after it a verb in the infinitive mood 
Soupirer (which was probably what Mr. Inglkbt 
intended) would give us the bells performiriff the 
f u nc t ions of " breathi ng " or ** sijThin jr." Again, ai 
re<!ard3 s'a&saupir^ to say laisser 9^a9»oupir not 
ditches would oe to recommend that the belli 
ehould be kept motionless ; and in that state how 
could they tveiiler lea ehanoines f 

I have no doubt the word used b^ Bolingbroke 
was sonner^ both because the variation from that 
word to 3ouper is little more than the lengthening: 
of the fii-st stroke of the second n; and also be- 
cause it ifl the only expression which will give us 
the effect of awaking the canons i 

" Let your bells be rung in the morning, to awake th» 
canons,, and induce in the dean a sweet and profound deem 
at!corapanied by pleasing dreams ; rise late," &o, 

HsNRT II. Bacsir. 

St, Lucia. . I 

Old Almamex (Vol x., p. 522.). — Contemnlu- ' 
ously as old almanacs have been spoken of» tney 
are really most valuable helps to history, and i 
regular series of them is so rare, that I have never 
met Avith one of any early origin. The MiiseunH 
I think^ does not possess even a tolerable one, and 
I hope that the Scotch series mentioned by your 
correspondent may be looked after and acquired 
for tbat national treasury. I myself have the 
good fortune to have completed a regular aeries of 
the French Almanacks Riv/avT^ Nationaux^ Impi' 
riattXt and Rotfanz^ Nadommj:, and Imperiatir 
again, from 1700! inclusive to the present year, 
in all the various and very significant bindings of 
tlielr respective times. I have heard that the late 
Duke of Angoulcmc had a similar collection com* 
plete to 18 SO, but that it was plundered and dis- 
persed at that revotution. I suppose, therefore, 
that my set is almost unique in private hands, 
least in England. 



Ian. 20. 1855.] 



Qmialiotti of Plato and ArUtoUe (Vol x., 

p. 125.). — The passage in Pinto referred to by 
your correspondent IL P, will be found in bis 
Ep'momis^ voL li. p* 978., edit. Serrani. The fol- 
to^injj extract from an imalysis of this treatise, in 
Dr. Ca&sar Mor trim's Inveftiigation of the Trinitt/ 
of Piaio mid of Philo Jmlaeus^ will I hope be ac- 
cept iible : 

***Th(? God that gave number U the Heaven, who 
taught inert tlie ^rst principle of enumeration by the 
waeetssBmi of day and niiiht, the variations of thu moon,* 
&c The same method of injitmctiog men in number \b 
likewise mentioned in the Timaiis, Philo also, adopting 
the flamn method of teaching;, saya, ' tha stars were placed 
in heaven to aniwer m&ny purposes/ &c," 

The nocti-diurnnl rule of Scripturo, and of 
varinud nations, reapeuting which inquiry baa re- 
cently been made in *^ N". & Q-," is copiously 
illustrated by quotations and references in the 
Rev* Ed wartlGrea well's Fasti Catht/lici et Lidkes 
CaimidnriiP, vol L pp, 130—236. ; j 

" 111 the allusions to the compr^nent part* of the yvx^n' 
t^tpo¥, whit h occur in Greek writers, it ia ohscrvahle that ^ 
the idiomntic form of the allusion is invariably night and \ 
dajf, and datf and nltfht. We may infer from this fact that i 
these two ideaa w€re so associated in the minds of the | 
Grcebfl, that they always presented themselves in this 
order J first night, and then day." — P. 167. 

To the specimens there given may be added 
the worda <jf Plato, following those referred to by 
your correspondent : 


Work on the Heality of the Devil (Vol, xi,, 
p. 12.).- 

"Seml<»r. (I.) Untorsnchung dor diimoni<iclieTi Lente^ 
odL*r*o^enftmen Descs^enen : nebst Beantwortuiig einigen 
Anpriffe, Bva Halle, IVfiS/' 

*♦ (2.) De Demon Uds^c^nonim in E van geliia fit Mentio, 
4to. Edition, i'1%'' 

These are the nnly works by Sender in the very 
copious list of his wntiu;;js to be found In Kayscr a 
VoUiitiinditfca Bucher- Lexicon^ that treat <lirectly 
on this subject; although it is nut unlikely that 
Seraler may have written upon it in some of his j 
iniscetluneons treatises, or in the therdogical re- ] 
.views i>f Germany, In Farmers work on the 
^etnouiacs of the New Teitf tber^ are some refer- 
cea to Semler. J. M, 

Antiquiiif of Swimmin^^hells (Vol. xi., p, 4-). * — 
There are many exani|>le8 in the Nineveh sculp- 
tures in the British Museum, which plainly prove 
that something like the swimming-belt was in 
common use at the time which they are meant to 
repreisent* I do not recollect whether there is a 
single figure, but there are many instances of 
seversd pi.^ople together passing a river supported 
by inflated skins, ^ M, E. F, 

Jennens of Acton Place (Vol xi., p, 10.). 

From the Beverat inqtiiries which have appeared 
in " N, & Qry* it seems evident that an impreuaioa 
exists that some portion of William Jenuena' large 
property remains undisposed of. This, however, 
19 not the case. The pedigree (whicli is not cer- 
tified) may be seen in tlie Townsend Collection in 
the Heralds' College, I would send you a copy 
if I thout^ht it of sufficient interest to appear in 
your columns. John Jennens, of Birmingham, 
left, a 3on» Humphrey Jennens, of Erding and 
Nether Whitacrc in the county of Warwick, who, 
by Mary^ daughter of John Mifward, of Snitterton, 
CO. Derby, ha<i issue (with other children) Charles 
Jennens, eldest son, from whom descends Earl 
Howe and Robert Jennens, tha father of William 
Jennens of Acton Place. Also two daughters: 
Esther, who married William Hanmer, Esq. ; and 
Ann, who married Sir Clement Fisher, Bart., of 
Fackington, From Esther descended ^V^illiata 
Lygon, Esq., afterwards Earl Beaucharap; and 
from Ann descended Lady Mary Finch, born in 
1716, and who married William, Viacount Aa- 

William Jennens of Acton Place, by his will, 
simply devised his real estate to his wife for her 
life, leaving the reversion, as well as the whole of 
bis personal estate, undisposed of. He appointed 
no executor, and on the 6th July, 1798, admini- 
stration, with the wilt annexed, was granted to 
** William Lygon, Esq., and the Hight Honorable 
Mary, Viscountess Dovi? ager Andover, the cousins- 
german once removed and next of kin of the said 
decensed." . As next of kini the personalty was 
shared between these parties ; while the real estate 
descended to the testator's heir-at-law, George 
Augustus William Ctirzon, and from him to his 
brother, tlie present Earl Howe, Q. D. 

Deoth'hed Siiper/ttition (Vol, xi., p, 7.)- -^ I 
remember to have scl'U lumging up in the entrance 
of a relative's house at Chipham, nmny years ago, 
a large brass shallow dish, with a repress ntntion 
(cast in the metal) of Adam, Eve, the serpent, the 
Tree, & c . I n (pj i ri n ;; the us e of so c urious - 1 1 >oki ng 
an article, I was told that such vessels were not 
uncommon in the houses of old families in Hert- 
fordshire, and it was generally placeil, filled with 
salt, immediately after death, upon the breast of 
the decease*! member of the taniily. Probably 
this has reference to the curious circumstance re- 
corded by W. N. T. It would be interesting to 
trace the origin of such observances. W. P* 

Hidif-lmf Money (Vol, x., p. 488.). — Referring 
to Da* Rock's corrections, 1 must observe, that 
when I asserted that the practice of distributing 
blessed bread was " the sole remnant of the obla- 
tions of the faithful,** I alluded to thoise made 
during mass only, being quite aware of some 
others, which Da. R» particularises. F. C. H^ 


[No. ars. 

" .Ex qttimii Ugno non fi Mercttrius^ (Vol. x.^ 
pp. 447. 527.), — A printers error un fortunately 
stultifies my communication on this subject. I 
wrote to show that the miinufacturer of tie note, 
which you quoted in n?ply to Ma. Fbashk's 
Query, had tnistoken the words of Erasmus hiin- 
eeJf foran extnict from Pliny, and never having 
t*ken the trouble of referring to the Isitter writer, 
had set them down ns the result of imlependent 
reaeiirch, though, like many other purhnners of 
other folk»2 goods, be was only leavirif^ a certain 
clue fiir bis det-ection and ejcpisure. This was tb© 
** fai^htoD " after which "the note -maker had 
blundered." Your printer, however, kind man ! 
by fubstftytinrf a colon for the full -stop after 
" Item Pliniiis libro decimo-sexto^" and by placing 
the two succeeding: perifids, which form the pas- 
sage in question ('* Quirlam superstitiosus , . - 
artibiis' ), between invertcMl commas, baa made 
me the sole blunderer: — ^in other wordsj making 
me show that the ptissage actually ix an extract 
from Pliny, while the ex[ire»s oHject of my com* 
munifation was to declare that it u not, 

A. Ghallsteth* 

SonfUi( % Blanco White: Bacon (Vol. .x., p. 31 L). 

•♦Scitiseime dixit quldam Platonicaji/* fee 

Has this quotation been traced to the orijjinal 
aTithor, or does it remain to be discussed ? I find 
the same comparison as the one here quoted, and 
which is repeated in the Nomtm Organnn^ proefat, : 

** Scnsms enim instjir Soli* ^lobi terrestris faciem aperif» 
cceTestia clAUHlit et obsi^at,*" 

Li Philo Judas us, Legum AUegnrut^ lib. li. : 

** Itaqne aenBJtxtim e^n^ilaittia mentis totnnua eat, menlia 
veit> evigilontia Bonmus sensuum. QuemAdmodum et 
sole oriente splendoree aliarum BtelLiruni obj»curi aant: 
ocddetite aiitem tnanifesti: sic eoUs plane in tncKlam 
mens evi^lanfi qaklem inumbrat seaaus: dormiens autem 
ipatw iudt efru]g«r&'' 

I had written thus far when I looked into AVats'3 
translation of Bacon 3 Advancement 0/ Leaniirifr^ 
where there is a referenccj in hco^ to Philo 
Judieus de Sinnniift. Neiiber are these " Nit;ht 
Thou|jht8,'* any more than the prccedinpf, the same 
verbatim as Bacon \ to whom language was & 
mrgula dimna, and — 
** Who needs no foil^ but shines by hiu own proper light." 


Cannon-haU Bffeeiji (VoL x., p. 386.). — Apro- 
pm to my former inquiry on this subject, I here- 
with subjoin an illustrative extract, culled from the 
eolumna of this di*y*s Edioburgb LaiHes' Jmtriml: 

** The Wind nf a Csmnon-baU. — The Satut PuMte of 
Lyons reUtes the followini; &ct, which it points out to 
the allentiwn of physiologista : — ^ * An officer of tlie Fneach 
army, whom General de Mnrtimprey had .*ent tn nmke a 
ro^onnaiiwince m the neighbourhood of S*fbnstopoI, wan 
knocked down, mot by n cancan^ball itself, but by tbe 

I wind of H as it passeit close to him. The connBodbo pn^ 

I dticed WHS so intense that tho tonji^tie of the officer ilk-. 

J stacitly contracted, so thiit be could not either put it oat 

I of bis nioath or articulate a word. Having obtained 

leave of absence, he rctamed to Marseilles, where he 

underwent treatment by means of el*^ct^ici^^^ After the 

Arst few shocks tho tongue began to mov^ with tnni« 

facility, but without his being able to speak. On tht 

twelfth day he wax subjiected to an nnusually ▼ioienl 

shock, which produced tae desired effect, and in a few 

minutes afler the patient recovered hi* speech. Ha is 

now fully recovered, and expects to return to his poal fn 

a fiiw days,* ** 

David Forstth, 
Edinburgh, Doc. 28, 1854. 

Prapng to the Devil (Vol. v., pp. 273. 351 ), — 

I Thn infamous ** Society of Blasters" was exp 'e,'i 

I in Dublin in 1738. One of its members, Vr- 

i Lensj a printer, in hh examination, declared i: • 

self a votary of the Devil; and acknowk !j 

having offered up prayers to him^ and pubiiciy 

drunk tn bis heahlu See speech of Earl Granard, 

Friday, March 10, l737-fl. I copy from a paper 

of the period. R. C, Wakdk. 




ItcMOin OP JcniJC BrrHcnvv, tjc» Scotch Pobt, By hb brottier, 

uiiltr Bethune 
IwTHnppmmT E*a** OM EMOi.T>n FFiarroitT, |ncflx«4 tO *'tJtf«af 1 

KtAteimenof ihi;; CommoTiwedUh/'br John Fgralcr, Etq. 

It Co. 
Caw'-ou's Swimaiiri. X Vol*. Sto. 
Tui.Dririi.ACTant OpKita Ommik. 
MriM 8rMtc€tAH0*t Litvm* <># m* Qirssirt of ElfftCUjTgw ToL H. ^f 

ISVol. edltJQO. 
Iitmiiot^v LiMXMM, Vol. I. Ftrrt Edition, 
Scwirrr nr Akt*' JocitHju,. No^ Si). YuL 1., Kod Nog. &t. SI. a Ob 

VoL n, 

Tmm SirsHT MA»*t MAaA.ima fhr 1770 uul 1771. 

•«• Letten, ttallsie ixArtlcuinin md lawert pHec, eafrduf^ A^Hk I9 fe» I 
Mnt lo Mn. B1114-, Pyiilither oJ " NOTES AND UUKlllIt** I 

Pjvrticulirinf Price, *r-, of the (nlXowlng: Booki lo be tent dlr«ft1* ' 
the fft^ntlemFn bj whom thejr Are nH|u]r«Cijid wIidm niimM *Ad m^ 
drcMct Krn rtrea for that puriKi« ! 

Jm, Bohn, It. Itlnif WilllAin Strwt. We,l Strand. WO. ^^ 
Wanted by W. n., Fwb Odlce, Dunbar. 

OitiEE.rH'V BAjroBo«iKor CiimrtrbT. 
C^vvKomt Socim* All Lbe VqLi. pubUih^d. 

Wiuited Ixr Rev* Frtderick Smitht, Churehdown, Chelk 

AnnAvrtrm MebuiAffftcim qk mrr B4ito<nc]'H, atictore Abr. 
TomuB XT. Oolflii. A«t. Atma t teao . 

Wanted br Jkr. JJr. Todd, LltofaHui of Trlairy Colltte,] 

W|iu.«'f QvAiiTKiix,T P^rmi *« A»o«iT«cTDa». Pw-t 1. 

CArMLKn'ft OoTjfif ARCKtTPrrtiKs. Pari 3. 

Fcviw'b BaiiMri.« or Oomic Jkmcu^rtmcxvmm, PaHi 1 a 4 of ToL ^ 

Waalvd ttj Jdbt ir«6&.9. Ii«tii«n<!e<Pountnaj L«iic. 

IfsKXTi««*t PufsrHfAnTa na^tnvr fw« PLAan. 4lf). Ifltt. 
SfKcrTT^tGiiiiOKHit.aav Exof^AKO. Vi>!« IT. I|a. 177R. 
fl«A«nsAits*t PiAra. ^''ol. U. tfo. Printed bj Bcfialey, U 

Wanted liy R. Thi>tbum, t. CiJtliitflaB Stntt. 

Jak. 27. 1855.] 



weir$ Arithmetic (YoL x., pp, 363. 47L).— 
any correspomienL, who knows the iniigh- 

bourhood of Lichfield^ tell me what was, and wbat 

\ ifl, tbe common uaoiie of measuring fence work in 
tbftt part of the country ? 

I Francis Walkingame (VoL v., p. 441.)' — The 

Query there made has never received any answer. 

I This writer, whose editors do not agree within 
twenty as to the number of the editions, is wholly 
unknown. There must be some grandton or 
groat-nephew who could give a little information. 

1 A friend ha5 recently presented me with an earlier 
edition than any I had ever seen ; it is " tlie tenth 

I edition with several additions/* printed for the 
author, Lonilon, duodecimo in threes* The date 
is 177 [2?] in the print, but the last figure has 
been neatly erased both in the title nnd preface, 
and a written I has been supplied. The author 
calla hinMetf writing-master and accomptant ; from 
the preface it appears that he kept a school, and 
from an advertisement that he taught writing 
and jirithmetjc abroad. He lived in Great Rua- 
8ell Street, Btoomsbury* We may suppose that 
the work appeared before 17G0 ; the author 
affirms that it was (1771) established in almost 
every school of emint.*nce throughout the kingdom. 
William Aft ins. — He is mentioned in my Arith- 
wmtiioeil Boohs (p 80.) as author of a work on 
arithmetic published at New York in 1797, the 
preface of which shows him to have been at St, 
Mary Hiill, Oxford. Join this to the following 
anecdote given by William Seward '. 

**A gentleman bom at Salonica in TurkeVt when he 
was at St. Mar}' Hail in Oxford, us a g«ntffiin&ii-€om- 
moner, was vei^f" kind to a worthy young mant whose 
circomstancea obliged him to b« a aervitor of tbe college. 
The »er\*ilor taking orders had some pr+)femient in 
America given him br his fHe«id> reeommemhiiiion. On 
tb« breaking <mt of tne war he was accidentally informed 
that the astalst of hia beaeAictor were to be cont^acated, 
OS supposed to belonfr to a Britiih subject. On thia he 
took horse immodiatoly, and proved to Ibe Assembly that 
hia friend was not a liritish subject**^ 

RMdwnrd Cocker, — In my Arithmetical Boohs I 
ave Bufficiently shown that the great work, the 
English Baritne, was probably a forgery by John 
lawkins, under the name of Cocker. This 
dawkins published in succesairm Cockers Arith* 
metic^ DecifHol Arithmetic^ and English DicHanary. 
or the circumstances which indicate forgery^ 1 
lUst refer to the work above cited, to which I 
iw make the following additions. 
Cocker died between 1671 and 1675. By the 
iptions under his portraits he was bom in 
rd% lie waa a writlug-jnasier and oogrnfer, of 

writing at least. He is said to liave published 
fourteen enffraved copy-books. At the and of 
one of the alnwinacs for 1688 is advertised, as a 
reprint-, Cockers Pen*s Transcendency, Evelyn 
(cited by Granger) mentions him and three others 
as comparable to the Italians both for letters and 
flourishes. His genuine work on arithmetic^ pub- 
lished during his life, before 1664, is the Tutor to 
Writing and Arithmetic^ which I suspect to have 
been an engraved book of writing copies and 
arithmetical examples. Some of his worts are in 
the Museum. (^Peyiny CycL^ ** Cocker.") 

It seems that as soon as the breath was out of 
Cockers body, this John Hawkins constituted 
himself his editor and eontinucr, Hawkins began 
by reprinting an undoubted work of Cocker, with 
a preface signed J. H. : 

** The Young ClerkV Tutor Enlarged : Being a most 
osefal Collection of the be^t Presidents of EeocMniixaiioeBy 
Obllgmttona, Conditiona, Acquittance*, Bills of Sole, War- 
rants of AttorDey, &c. ... To which is annexed, 
several of thf best Copies both Court and Chancery- 
Hand now extant. By Edward Cocker. Ex Btudils N. 
tie Ltttibulo ♦lAoi^ov. The eighth edition." LK>ndoo, 
1675, 8vo. 

The goodness of C/ocker's alleged work on arith- 
metic lies chiefly in this r of all the small and 
cheap school-books of the time, it is the one which 
adopts the now universal mode of performing 
division, to the exclusion of the older method, in 
which figures are written down and scratched out. 
In its explanations it is inferior to many of the 
works which it supplanted. 

When did the name of Cocker become a pro* 
▼erbial representative of arithmetic? Can any 
one carry this higher than the year 1756 ? In 
thut year appeared the farce of The Apprentice^ 
in which tbe old merchant's strong pomt is the 
recommendation of Cockvr^s Arithmetic, "tbe best 
book that ever was written/* to the young tra- 
gedian, his son. Arthur Murphy hati evidently 
been looking up the names of arithmeticians ; the 
o!d roan who reverences Cocker is called Wingate^ 
the name of a writer second only to Cocker in the 
number of his editions. Is it to this farce that 
Cocker owes his position ? If Murphy had hap- 
pened to call bis old citizen Cocker, and make 
bim recommend Wingate's book, would the two 
have changed places? These are questions which 
may have to be answered affirmatiTely, if no one 
can establish a usage prior to 1756. 

Any one who took the trouble might make a 
curious list of extracts in which dramatists and 
novelists have exposed the want of suificient tech- 
nical know^dge to represent the characters they 
intended. Both Wingate and Cocker would have 
b«en shocked to hear the Wingate of the faree 
(who U obviously intended for a keen mercantile 
arithmetician) going on thus i 

** Five-eighths of three-sixteenths of a pound ! raal- 
Upbr thg fiumeratoc by the deoominator i tiv«i t\«iRai tbc**- 





[No. 274. 

teen is ten times ei^t, ten times eight is eighty, and — 
a — A — cany one. IEtU,'] " 

The latest numbered edition of Cocker I have met 
with is called the 65th, by Geo. Fisher, London, 
1758, 12mo. 

Rattier too scientific. — The piece broken off 
from a mass of saltpetre, to test it, was culled the 
refraction ; and this word passed into a technical 
term for the per-centage of foreign matter found 
by common chemistry. A scientitic journal took 
it that the goodness of saltpetre was lueusured by 
its refraction of the rays of li<;ht, and undertook 
to add that tlie less the angle of refraction the 
better the quality of the salt. 

Arithmetical Scale. — I know of but two at- 
tempts to alter our arithmetical scale altogether. 
Perhaps others can bring forward more. 

** The Pancronomcter, or universal Georfpan Calendar 
. . . and the Reasonfl, Rules, and Uses of Octave Com- 

?atation, or Natural Arithmetic. By U. J. London, 
763, 4to." 

The word Georgian looks so like Gregorian, that 
probably many persons pass(*d the book over as 
one of those which the change cif style produced 
by the score. The author's system of arithmetic 
b that in which local meaning proceeds by eights : 
thus 10 stands for eight, 100 fur eight eights, &c. 
He has a mania for the comparative and super- 
lative terminations. Ilis leading denominations 
are units, ers (eights), ests, thouscts, thouseters, 
thousetests, millets, milleters, &c. Ho calls the 
square of a number its power, and the cube — by 
an oversight, not the yowext but — tlie powers*/. 
Eiffht feet moke a feeter, eight fceterx a font est, 
eiffbt pounds make a pounder, &c. If the crotchet 
which possessed this unfortunate H. J. were to 
return with seven others as bad ns itself, thus, 
and thus only, would this crotchet of a system, as 
itself tells u.s, be made a crotcht'ter. But, strange 
as H. J. may appear, there is a stranger, not 
meaning eight, but only one. 

** Calcolo decidozzinale del Bnrone Silvio Ferrari . . 
. . dedicato alia nationo Inglese." Torino, 1854, 4to. 

This work has probably been suggested by the 
discussions on the decimal coinage. The system 
is duodecimal. The author goes farther than 
H. J., for he takes old words under new meanings. 
Thus 10 is called ten, but means twelve; 100 is 
calle<l a hundred, but means twelve twelves. Of 
course I translate the Italian into English. New 
names and symbols are wanted for old ten and 
old eleven (which now mean twelve and thirteen). 

a are kappa, denoted by a sign like w, and 
^ derived from pendulum, with a symbol 
\ turned left side riglit. Thus what we call 
twenty-four is twenty, whut wc call a hundred and 
twenty is kappaty (ten twelves). What we call 
twenty-three is ten^pendo (twelve and eleven). 
The year of grace now commencing is one thou- 

sand and kappaty seven, 10w7; 1000 meaning 
1728, wO meaning 120, and 7 being unchanged: 
and a happy new vear it would be if we had to 
commence it with this new reckoning. We should 
pay money at the door of a show to see a man with 
ten fingers ; and it would seem very strange, in a 
philological point of view, that, aAer the traitor 
had hanged himself, the number of apostles left 
should be designated by pendo. 

The author dedicates his work to our country. 
His system, he says, — 

** Abbisogna di mettere le prime sne radio! in un ter^ 
reno verginc, in cui non abbU a pcrire oppresso dalP ombia 
dclk rigogliosa pianta decimalc.'* 

This means that our persistence in refusing to de- 
cimalise otir coinage, weights, and measures, is 
enough to make any one think we are open to an 
offer to rid us of the decimal numeration alto- 
gether. A. Dk Morgas. 


On looking over a collection of old letters, I 
found several from T. Amory (John Buncle), 
and very curious ones they are. I send you s 
copy of one, which you may perhaps think worth 
preserving in your entertaining and instructing 
pag<?s. C. ©bD. 

" My dkau Mias , 

*' I send you u curious paper for a few minutes' amnw- 
ment to yoii and the ladies with you. It was written 
above thfrty years ago. Perhaps you may have seen it in 
the ma^azine.s, where I put it; but the history of it wu 
never known till uuw that I lay it before you. 
I am, 

Miss . 

Your faithful, humble 8er\-nnt, 

»,.... Amourl 

« July 8, 73, 
Xe'wton Ilall. 

"A Song 
In praise of Miss Roive, 

Written one ni^ht extempore by a club of gentlemen ia 
the county of lipperary in Ireland. It was agreed that 
each member should, oft-hand, write four lines, and 
they produced the following venues : 

" A whimsical pain has just caught mo, 
Much worse than the gout in my toe; 
What damsel on earth could have taught me 
To love, but enchanting Moll liowe ? 

Written by Sir Harry Clayton. 

•• When chatting, or walking, or drinking. 
No person or subject I know ; 
For all my whole power of thinking's 
Employed about sweet Molly Kowe. 

JBy John Macklin, Etq. 
" Some people love hunting and sporting, 
And chace a stout buck or a doe, 

Jan. 27. 1855.] 



Bat the came I am fond of is courting 
A smile, from my dear Mollv Rowe. 

By I%omaM Dundou^ Eaq. 


** In the dance, through the coaples a scudding. 
How graceful and light does she go ! 
yo EngUshman ever lov'd pudding 
As I love my sweet Molly Rowe. 

By Mr. T, Amory. 
" In the dumps, when my friend says, 'How goes it?' 
1 answer him surly, • So, so.* 
I*m sad, and I care not who knows it ; 
I suffer from charming Moll Rowe. 

By Wmiam Bingham, E$q. 

" Tho' formerly I was a sloven. 

For her I will turn a great beau ; 
111 buy a green coat to make love in. 
And drtts at my tempting Moll Rowe. 

By John (yRourke, Eaq. 
** She's witty, she's lovelv and airj% 
Her bright eyes as black as a'sloe ; 
Sweet's the county of sweet Tinperary, 
The sweetest n^'mph in it's Moll Rowe. 

By Oliecer St. George, E$q. 

•• So great and so true is my p.ission, 
I kindle just like fire and tow ; 
Who's the pearl of the whole Irish nation ? 
Arra! who should it be but Moll Rowe? 

By Popham. Stevens, Esq. 

** Tour shafts I have stood, 3Ir. Cupid, 
And oft cr)'*d, • A fig for your bow : ' 
But the man who escapes must be stupid, 
^Vhen yon shoot from the eyes of Moll Rowe. 

By Thomas MoUinenx, Esq. 

" Come, fill up in bumpers vour glasses. 
And let the brown bowl overflow ; 
Here's a health to the brightest of lasses. 
The queen of all toasts, Molly Rowe. 

By Thomas Butler, Esq. 

**Xoiabeme. — When by our mutual contributions we 
had finished our 8<mg, we all drank bumpers to Miss 
Bove's health, and sang the last verse in grand chorus. 

^ I do not remember, in all my reading or acquaintance, 
tliat inch a thing was ever done before, and, perhaps, will 
r be again. 

"All the composers of this song (except Amory^ and 
I Bowe are now in the grave, llere I am, round and 
•fWDd, by the order of Providence, for some of God's 
adorable decrees. 

"Xewton in Yorkshire, July th*8, 1773." 


. Men ofth€ Time. In doing lo I was reminded of 
I what has been objected to it as a defect, the 
number of *' unknown '* names which it contains, 
: by which I mean names of men active and influ- 
ential in tlieir generation, but to a great part of 
that generation almost unknown — the writers on 
the public press. Writers of this class are too 
much disregarded by their cotemporaries, and too 
I soon forgotten by their successors ; and the con- 
. sequence is, that of no body of men have we so 
' little knowledge as of political writers. What 
: would we not gfive for a succession of Tolumes of 
I Men of the Time, say from the commencement of 
i the last century, or even from 1760? What a 
' flood of light might occasionally be thrown upon 
an obscure page of history by a knowledge, not 
only of what was written upon that subject, but 
of those by whom it had been written. If we 
, cannot now hope to discover all that we desire to 
know, we may yet do something to supply that 
■ deficiency. Let no reader of ** N. & Q." think any 
fact that bears upon this subject — any hint of 
authorship, or any discovery of this kind, in any out 
I of the way corner of his reading — too insignificant 
to be recorded, but throw it as a mite into the 
common treasury. More especially, let him not dis- 
regard any scrap of information tending to identify 
the author of any pamphlet. It may be a link in 
a chain of evidence the most important. What 
might not Mr. Crosslet, Mr. Cornet, Ms. 
Cunningham, Dr. Maitland, and many other of 
your recognised correspondents, furnish in this 

manner ; to say nothing of Mr. , Mr. , and 

Mr. , whose pens it is not diflScult to recog- 
nise* in vour columns without their signatures, 
and to whom the men of the last century are 
as familiar as household words. Pray, Mr. Editor, 
excuse tliis suggestion, hastily thrown out and im- 
perfectly developed. Open your columns to this 
important subject, and, my word for it, generations 
yet unborn will thank me for the suggestion, and 
** N. & Q." for having adopted and carried it out. 


[If we rightly understand the object of our corre- 
spondent, viz., that we should invite contributions of all 
facts which serve to identify the authors of political pamph- 
lets, we readilv accede to bis proposal. But we desire to 
do far more. \Ve would not cimtine ourselves either to the 
period or class of works to which our correspondent alludes. 
\Ve hope everj* reader of ** N. & Q." who can identify the 
author of any 'anonymous irork upon any subject will record 
his discovery in our columns as a contribution towards 
that great desideratum in English literature, a Dictionary 
of Anonymous Books. 

We may take this opportunity of stating that we have 

By one of those coincidences which are oflen so * We have struck out the names given bv our cor- 
tuggestiye, it has happened that shortly after respondent for the very obvious reason, that if he be right 
m£ng your address on the commencement of the j? *^« conjectures there can be no necessity for disturbing 
Vw vwVru Vft» tTM> T Um^^ u»A ^ww,..:^.. 4^ -«r«- *!>« mcognito of the gentlemen to whom he alludes ; 
r^P'^L, • r'lVV? r^^/S° ^,^^ while the doing so woofd be a manifest discourtesj-.-Eo: 
to Mr. fiqgue s uefol bat imperfect little volume, , ««N. & Q." 



[No. 274. 

B measnre in contemplation, somewhat in connexion with 
this proposal, which, if we are enabled to carry it out 
efiectually, will five a featarc of new and increasing in- 
ttrsst to onr pages. — £d. ** N. & Q."] 


** Beware 
Cf entrance to a quarrel; buti being in^ 
Bear it that the oppoeer may beware of thee." 


The preliminaries of peace is a phrase with 
which most persons are familiar, and many must 
remember when the reports of such proceedings 
— when notes and conferences, propositions and 
counter-propositions — were the objects of con- 
stant and earnest discussion. 

The preliminaries of war seems to be a new 
phrase, and to deserve a place in the vocabularies 
of diplomacy. It would serve to indicate the cir- 
cumstances which chiefly require the consideration 
of sovereigns and statesmen previous to the de- 
claration of war. The subject may be rather out 
of date at this moment ; but while some are intent 
on passing events, others may choose to glance at 
affairs retrospectively, 

A just cause, and a just appreciation of the 
force with which we have to contend, as com- 
pared with our own resources and expectations, 
should be considered as the indispensable prelimi- 
naries of war. The first circumstance would 
carry with it a partial consolation for the evils 
and miseries which war produces, and the second 
would give us some assurance of the probability 
of its successful termination. 

The expediency of the war now in process is 
a political question, and therefore unsuitcd to the 
publication in which this appears : it is neither a 
question of facts nor figures, but a labyrinth of 
arguments. An estimate of the force with which 
we have to contend is a more tangible subjects, 
and I need not conceal tliat the notes thereon 
about to be transcribed are assumed to be of con- 
siderable importance. 

** Let forces de terre fde la Rnssiel sont estim^s li un 
million d'hommes armM, y compris rarra^ polonaise de 
50/>00 hommei^ Mais sur cette maase de troupes, on n*en 
oompte qa*ua peu plus de 700,000 de parfititement r^gu- 
li^res, et 48,000 de troupes d^^lite formant la garde. Si 
Ton consid^re I'i^tendue des frontifercs du cot^ de TEuropo, 
Ifli distances et les points susceptibles d'etre attaques, 
anfin la population de Tempire, on ne trouvera pas cet 
tftat militaure plus fort que celui des autres monarchies 
continentales. Mais le projet de transformer peu k peu la 
population agricole des domaines de la cooronne en une 
milice permanente, or^nis^ h la mani^re des Kosaqucs 
sous le nom de coloniee militaires [syst^me aujourdbui 
Iden ^tablil, donnerait k la Rustic unc force arm^ pour 
ainsi dire illimit^'* — Conrad Maltk-Brun, 182G. 

** Les statisticians et les g^grapbes les plus distin^n^ 
donnent les Evaluations les plus disparates sur Tarm^ de 
rempire Rnsse. — Mais les faits positift et les raisonnemens 
de M. Schnitzler, dans sa statistique de Tempire Russe, 

nous ont engage & fkire de nouvelles recherehes ; leor i^ 
sultat nous a prouvE la justesne des calcula de ce ttatisti- 
cien, et nous n'h^tons pa.« k les admettre dans le tableta 
en r^uisant le cadre de Tarmde rustsc sur le pied de paix, 
h la fin de 1826, & 670,000 hommes ; encore ferons-nou 
observer avcc M. Schnilaier que ce nombre doit ^re ze- 
gurd<^ h cette dpoque plutot comme mominai an*effketifJ* 
— Adrien Balbi, 1844. 

** Le courage du soldat russe n'est pas imp^tuenx comme 
cclui du soldat fran(;ai8 ; c'est, si je puis m exprimer »iTnn^ 
un courage de rodignotion, et celui des recrues e^t pent- 
«^tre supdrieur k cclui des anciens soldats, mais ces derniefs 
sont pr^drables, parcc qu*ils savent mieux leur m^er.** 

— Im marquis dk Chambuay, 1823. 

** Les Kasaques s »nt d*une vigilance extrume, mais ib 
nc font point consister leur gloirc k braver le danger; ils 
n'atlacjuent qu'avec une grande supc^riorit^ tie forces, rt 
se retirent h Tinstant hi Ton fait bonne contenance ; ik 
craigncnt beuucoup Ic feu, et ne s*y exposent jamais volon- 
tairement : leur principal but Etant de faire du butin, ct 
les bagages de Tanni^ en contenant de tres-pr^cieux, ilj 
redoublaient d'activite." — Le marquis de Ciiambbat. 

"Ccqui nous frappait surtout [tk Sevastopol], c*^ait 
de voir cos memos soldat**, tour k tour terraasierSy chAT- 
puntiersi, forgerons ct masons, accomplir k merveille toat« 
res tncheh si di verses. — Ajoutons que le soldat russe eft 
non-8eulcinent un bubile artiban, mais encore un ouvrier 
docile par car.-ict^re, rcs[>ectueux sans bassesse, adroit rt 
actil'sans fortanteric.*' — Anatole de Demidoff, 1840. 

*'Cc grand »|jectaclc guerrier de Vosneaaensk, d<mt 
j'etais assez heureux pour admirer de si prbs tous la 
ilc'tails, dcvait naturellement me trouver tout rempli de 
respect et d*attention. Certes ce n'^uiit pas an intenc 
vulgairo qui m'avait conduit dans cette ville de soldau, 
et, apres le premier e'tonnemcnt, je n'eus ricn de plus 
press<.* fpio de luc rendre compte de ces forces tcniblea. 
surtout de cette cavalcrie formidable, qui n*a pas son 
e'gale dans le monde. C*e9t pourtant k Tinstitntion des 
colonies militaires quMI faut demandcr le secret de cei 
rtMultats admirables ; de \k est sortie cette anii^ impo- 
sante. I/C n(nnbrc, la discipline, Ic liien-etrc des hommes. 
la rare bcaute des chevaux, et Jusqu'^ Tair martial de cei 
es<Mdroni<, tout proclamc les heureux effets de ce systdne 
et sou incontestable snperiorite."— Anatole de Dsmidoff, 

** On courre la poste en France et en Angleterre, mais en 
Kussie on vole^ surtout daus le gouvemcinent dc la noa- 
velle Kussie. Je partis a huit heurrs ct dcmie du matin 
dc XicolaTef, et k midi un quart j'avais parcouru aoixante 
verstes, ct jVtais aux ]K)rtcs de Cherson." — Le baron m 
Reuilly, 1806. 

While thus reviewing the vast power in array 
against us, and reflecting on some oversights, and 
marks of public disappointment, I give no place 
to dismay. The only remedy is prompt and in- 
creased exertion — more officers — more soldiers 

— more excavators — more ammunition — more 
8up])lios of every description. 

The skill and activity of the commanders In 
this conflict — the bravery and patient endurance 
of the troops and seamen — a rapid sucoeaaion of 
unsurpassed victories — are the themes of admir- 
ation with all manly and candid minds. In one 
f>articular only there seems to have been a re- 
axation of discipline, and on that essential point 
I presume to transcribe a word of advice : 
** Among the many preeantioni to which a c 

Jan. 27. 1855.] 




shotild ttttenU, th^ first k tliAt <*f obsen'ing iecrecjf^'* — 
Polity I us. 

** The commander of the Force? — hns fVpquprTth' ia- 
men tetl the ignorance wlikh 1 scions 

commuaicat^^ in ietter* wr;; l the 

indiiicrctidn witli which ihoiL , , —Sir 

Arthur Wklucslbt, K.IJ. Celorico, 1810, 

Bolton Cohnkt . 


KouTu, paBsii>Eirr or vagi>4len college. 

In the very interesting and ably drawn up 
account of Dn Hoiitii, said to have been wrttteu 
by a Fellow of Magdalon^ tind whiub aptwiired in 
The Timei^ no inentian was made of the Presi- 
dent's first publication, the Euthydetmis and Gar- 
gias of Plato; and the omission was soon after 
noticed by a correffpondent of The Times^ wbo 
wrote from Cambridge; but wbo was in error in 
placing the date of the Dialo^uc^ in 1 774^ instead 
of 1784, which is the true date. In connexion 
with Dr. KoutU, and as a sbj^^it contribution both 
to bioffi'ajthy and bibliography, I send you the 
following; quotations ; the first Jroiu Mojis's J/anuai 
of Classical Bibliography (London, 1825) : 

*" After r&Ailmg through the iicavy and barren bst of 
editiuDA rtf tii« Dlaio^ues^ puhltibed sefMinildy* I adi at 
last arrived at the lu«t specimen of classical ediioralijp, 
which mv venerable, pious, and hij^hlv esteemed friend, 
the Iearnf*d President of Maj^dakn Coftege, Oxford, pre- 
MOtM to tht? world. (Oxon, ero., 1784.) That aach and 
•0 highly Jijipreciated presenta are so seldom to be met 
with, is to every whol&r a subject of regret, ITia Latin 
TersioQ is by the editor, in which he appears rather to 
have aimeit at p«n<picuity and brevity, united with a 
correct interpret a tion of his author; yeu nerertheleis, wfi 
oftea meirt with elejipmcies. Of the matenaJs em- 
ployed hy Dr. Roatht in the compilation of thi« edi- 
tion, 1 sliaJl pceseiit my reader with the detail given 
by Findeiiseti in his odition of the Gear^uu: — *Routhii 
Tiri doctJAs, ej^regtain opus,' &e For far- 
ther infurnifltion, I refer my readers to the brief but 
eloquent t'hjiiracter of Dr. Kouth, drawn up by my hOt 
lamented friend Dr. Parr, in his Charact€r»ofC. X Fax, 
ToL ii. ; who, by the long and intimate acquaintance 
which sabsifited between liim and the President, was 
duly able to dlscem and estiuuite that character, tJie 
virtues and accompllahmentj of which he has so plcuis- 
ingly nouTtrayod; to the Preface of Findeisen; to ih«? 
Cntwal Eeeiew for Joly, 1785, pp. 45 — ol. ; FabricH UiW. 
Grava^t torn. iu. p» 18^^ edit. Harleas; Dibdio'd Introd.^ 
rcH. ii. p. 137.; Bftmet, J^mml de Zifiraire." — Moaa, 
vol. ii. p. 434. 

The Dext extract ia from Dr. Parr, in reply to 
tlie accusations of Gibbon against Oxford in 
geoera], and Magdalen Colle^ in particular : 

" Dr. Home waa a monk of Mmjdtden [a coutemptuouj; 
iioD made use of hy Gibbon], but he compoifcU 
I volomea of aermoas, to which Mr. Gibbon will uo( 
the pimee of iafrenuity; and he alao drew up a 
Commfntary oa the Psalma, lor nobler ptirpoeaa Ltian tlio 
amo»emeot of scholars or tlie confutatiou of critics. Dr. 
Chandler Is a monk of Magdalen. But he has puJ>ltshed 
TVori'Zr initf Gfwe and Aaia Mimor^ which hava been 
well received in the learned world ; and, with great credit 
*". be baa 


Dr. Honth is a monk of Mairdftlen. Bat hf* *" 
gnf^ in a work of crcat difficulty, and of , 
whtch he is pcculiany qoaltried by hti pru: 
ledfre of the tenots and the lan^afc of the earlier f^iibers 
in the Christian Chiircb; and ioag before the deatb of 
Mr. Gibbon, this very monk had seat forth an edition of 
7W I)ialofftt£» ra Ptato : an edition which, iu rommon 
with many of my coxmtrympn, I have myself rojid with 
inslrnctioo and witli ' ' * n edition yl' " ' ist 
Mchol&rBi on the Com praised} ^v! -n 

Barney ♦loves,* and n Hichard J i* 

durej.* ***— cV/ri/o/ >erMMrti, iiute^, p. 128., London, lijOl. 

, I am informed, by a late Fellow of Ala^dalen, 
that the first scholars of Germany still continue to 
speak in terms of high praise of Dr, Routh's Twif 
Dialogues of Plato. It is with deep feelln*rs of 
^atitude for great kindness experienced from 
Dr. Routh, and of Teneratiou for the character of 
one, wbo, even at a comparatively early period of 
life, eeems to have inspired all who approached 
him with feelings of veneration, that I send these 
few hasty memoranda to the Editor of " X, & Q/* 

JoiiK 2ViACfiAr. 


** Senenhf'Kepen.** — I lately asked an " old in- 
habitant *' bis age ; and be answered, witli a smile 
nt bis own bit of humour: "Why, Sir, I belong 
to the sevens; born in the three sevens (1777), 
I must this year (1854) of course confess to the 
two sevens (77)." Anotlier century must elapse 
before tbii reply C4m be given, after the year 
which has just expired. iN. L. T* 

Clock Imcriptiofi, — Under the clock in front 
of the Town Hall in the tt>wD of Bala, Merioneth- 
shire, North Wales, is the following inscription : 

•* Here I sUnd both day and night, 
To Leit the hours with all my might| 
Do you example take by me, 
Aud servo tliv God a^ I'scrve thee.'* 

H. J. 


Sun-dial Motto. — One at llcbdcn Bridge, 
Yorkshire : 

•* Quod pctis, ttmbra est.*' 

John Scjubc. 

Anciejvt UMOges of the Church (Vol. ix^pasnim). 
— There was, a few yejirs ago, and probably still 
exists, in the parish church of Yeovil, a practice of 
.singiu|r, or rather saying, after the Gospel, words 
which incidentally themselves perhaps refer to an- 
other more ancient custom. The words, thus «aid 
or gung by the parisb clerk, were these ; ** Tlmnks 
be to God for the Light of Ilis Holy Gospel.** 

•J. J. 

Johnson and -S'io(/l!.— Jc'inson's prejudice ngalntt 
Swift is visible in many passages in BoawelL That 
in which he deeUred " Swift is clear., b\Lt. Wi.'^ 



[Na 274. 

sTiallow" (Croker'fl ed. 1847, p. 277.), » curiously 
illustrated by the following characteristic anec- 
dote, which I have just disinterred from the Town 
and Country Magazine for Sept. 1769. 

Dr. Johnson, being one evening in company 
with some of the first-rate literati of the age, the 
conversation turned chiefly upon the posthumous 
volumes of Swifl, which had not been Ion? pub- 
Hshed. After having sat a good while collected 
in himself, and looking as if he thought himself 
prodigiously superior m point of erudition to his. 
companions, he roundly asserted in his rough way 
that ** Swift was a shallow fellow ; a very shallow 
fellow/* The ingenious Mr. Sheridan, not relish- 
ing so despotic an assertion, and in his opinion so 
false a one, as be almost venerated the Dean of 
St. Patrick*s literary talents, replied, warmly but 
modestly, " Pardon me. Sir, for diflering from 
you, but I always thought the Dean a very clear 
writer." To this modest reply the followmg la- 
conic answer was immediately vociferate<1, *'A11 
shaUovos are clear 1 " M. N. S. 

Lord Derby and Manzoni. — While Lord Derby's 
quotations are a matter of interest, let me recall 
attention to one which he made in a speech on the 
death of the Duke of Wellington. It was, re- 
markably enough, taken from J^Ianzoni's Ode on 
the Death of Napoleon,^ 

" Ov'b silenzio e tenebre 
La gloria che passb." 

But where was the speech made ? I cannot now 
recall, and should be thankful to any one who 
would inform me, and say how I may obtain a 
copy. I do not find the quotation in his speeches 
in the House, and believe it was made in one 
spoken at some public dinner. 

The Classics have for so long a time usurped 
the foremost place as subjects for quotation, that 
it was delightful to find so great a man as Lord 
Derby breaking through conventional rules and 
doing honour to the beauties of the Italian muse ! 


Vessels of Observation. — Vcgetius (de re Mil, 
iv. 37.) has the following : 

** Ne candoro prodantur, coloro Ycneto, qui marinis est 
flactibas similiis vela tinguntur et funes : cera etiam qua 
nngucre solent naves, inflcitur : nautn quoqnc vel milites 
Yenetam vestom induant, ut non solam per noctem, sed 
etiam per diem facilius lateant cxplorantes." 

Is this the origin of our Blue-jackets ? And 
would our present Board of Admirtltj pooh-pooh 
)r sea-green sans P 

1 ouNQ Vebdakt. 

the introduction of blue or i 

* n Cinque Maggio, 



In the interesting Journal of John Byrom^ 
F. R. S., one of the latest publications of the 
Chetham Society*^, he states, under the date of 
June 3rd, 1725, that — • 

** At a meeting of the Royal Society, Sir Isaac Newton 
presiding, Dr. Jurin f read'a case of small-pox, whers a 
girl who had been Inoculated and had been vaccinatad, 
was tried and had them not again, bat another (a) boy 
caught the small -pox from this girl, and had the conflneot 
kind and died." 

The paper referred to by Byrom was commn* 
nicated by Mr. Sergeant Amand. It has been 
kindly transcribed for me by Mr. Weld, the libra- 
rian of the lloyal Society. The case occurred at 
Hanover. The inoculation of the girl seems to 
have failed entirely. It was suspected that she 
had not taken the true small-pox. Doubts, how* 
ever, were removed, as a boy, who daily saw the 
girl, fell ill and died, " having had a very bad 
small-pox of the confluent sort.** 

The point to which I would draw your readen* 
attention is the mention of *' vaccination** in this 
journal in 1725 ; it is one of some interest and 
curiosity, as it is supposed that no one, before 
the time of Jenner, attempted to introduce the 
virus from the cow into the human species. The 
word does not occur in Amand*s paper, of which 
Byrom is speaking. Nor is it to be found in the 
dictionaries of Bailey, Ash, or Johnson, until in- 
troduced into the last by Todd. Richardson, in 
his Dictionary^ says that ** it is a word of modem 
formation.'* Did Byrom borrow it, or was it his 
own invention ? He studied medicine, and it was 
suggested to him to practise as a physician in his 
native place. He so far obtained the title of 
doctor from his acquaintance, that he was com- 
monly so addressed; and on one occasion he desired 
that his letters should be directed Mr., not Dr. 
In 1727 he says that he had not health or ex- 
perience to practise in Manchester. 

Byrom*s attention appears to have been mudi 
turned to the subject of inoculation. Other refer* 
ences to the practice will be found in the DiarWf 
and he mentions reading Dr. \Vm. Wagstaffes 
Letter to Friend, on the danger and uncertainty of 
Inoculation, published in 1722 (Diary, p. 140.). 

It was in 1762 or 1768 that Jenner s attention 
seems to have been first awakened to the subject 

• This diaiy, with a striking portrait, wa» generously 
given to the Chetham Society bv its accomplished possessor, 
the poet's descendant. The MS. was happily committed 
to the hands of an editor, most competent to do fall jiudce 
to it In his preface and notes. Canon Parkinson has 
heightened the vivid picture which BjTom has drawn of 
the habits and manners of our grandsires, by his own 

t At one time Pxvsident of the College of Phyaidans^ 

Jam. 27. 1855.] 



of his ^ent fliscovcry* by the chnppcd hnnds of 
mi Ik urn aotnctimes provm^ a preventative of suiall- 

Soat, and bj those amon;i8t tbera whom he en- 
eavoured to inociilnte resisting the infection. In 
1770 he mentioned the cow-pox to John Hunter; 
ten reiirs afterwards his anticipations vrare quick- 
ened, atifl about 1796 he performed the first 
siicce-^sful operation. These dates I gather from 
Mr. Pettijrrew's cttrofullj compiled and very in- 
teresting life of Dr Jenoer.* 

Some of your corTe5pon[3ent5 will very probably 
tell me that what I have quoted is not a solitary 
instance of the use of the word vaccination early 
in the last century^ J. H. Mabm^land, 


Can any correspondent of " N, & Q." help me 
with answers to the following questions ? 

Who were the Sherinjjtons of Selmeston, co. 
Sussex^ one of whom, Katherine, dau*;hter and 
heireas of Simon Sherington, was married to John 
Selfryn of Shcnn^on^ about the year 1350? 

Are there any Sheringtons still extant tracing 
their descent from ihia fiuiiily ? 

The grandson of this marriage is Nicolas Sel- 
wyn, ot Shenngton. I cannot lind the surname 
of his wife; her christian n?ime is given in Berry *8 
Genealogies of the Smsei: Gentry as Laura. 

1 have been told tlmt the name of Nicolas 
Selwyn is found also Shulder. I shall be glud to 
know whether there h any confirmation of this, 
independent of the authoritv on which I have re- 
ceived tty whick uuthorityt I i^hould addt is a high 

In the collections of Peter Lc Neve, Esq., 
Norroy Kin^^ of Arms, now remaining in the 
College of Amid, there is the following remarkable 
discrepnucY with the statement uf the monument 
of Sir Edward Selwyn still extant in Friston 
Church. The monument speakis of one son only 
of Sir Edward, by name William Thonjas Selwyn, 
who survived hia father only two months, Sir 
Edward dying Dec, 9, 1704, and William Thomas 
Feb. 9, 170J^ in his twenty-first yean The young 
man is deplored as^ ** Qui sola spes fuit, et nunc 
exatincta, antiquai Selwynorum familiu;. Ultimus 
hie Selwynoruin jacct," ^Q, 

On the other hand, Peter Le Neve gives to Sir 
Edward Selwyn a son, whose christian name is 
unrecorded, colonel of a regiment which is uude- 
scribed, except as a regiment of foot, and who 
married a daughter of a Battinson of Chlselhurst, 
ihe christian name neither of the lady nor of her 
Ikiber being given. The house is easily identified 
$^ as that or the late Sir Edward Betenion. 

Now I buve no doubt that the monument is 
here to be believed, and that the learned herald is 
tn error. But I shall f^^l obliged by any one of 
your readers who will kindly fill up the tleficien- 
cies of this record, and refer Colonel Selwyn to 
bis proper father, or who will give me any other 
clue to the satisfactory solution of the dlfhculty. 

Sir Edward Selwyn was M. P. for Scaford in 
1681 and 1684, and High Sheriff of Sussex iu 
1682, Can any of your readers tell me by what 
means I am likely to discover precisely why he 
was knighted, llis uncle, Sir Nicolas Selwyn, 
was ** (me of the honourable band of pensioners of 
King Charles.** I shall be glad to learn something 
about the«e pensioners, and es[»eciaUy for what 
services Sir Nicolas was knighted wad admitted 
into *^ the honourable band/' 

I shall be thankful for any information con- 
cerning the following Sussex families, or for re- 
ferences to documents where they are mentioned : 
— Sherington of Selmeston, about 1350; Marshall 
of Maresfield, about 1380; Keresby, nbout 1440; 
Bates or Batysj about 1470; Jolin Adam, about 
15O0. E. J. Sblwi-j. 



An intelligent and imaginative^ though unedu- 
cated old friend of mine (now dead), who had 
led a most eventful life, ran away from his parentAl 
home, in Edinburgh, when about sixteen yenrs 
old. As is the case with all the strays and waifs 
of the British empir^^ he straightway bent his 
coursi* to London. Of course the theatre was not 
long unvisited ; and one incident in a piny which 
he then saw acted became indelibly stHrnped upon 
his mind, and exerted an important influence upon 
him in after-life. This is his description of it* 

A sturdy, middle*aged farmer wits hard at work 
in his field, when he was interrupted by the ap- 
pearance of his daughter, whom be heartily loved, 
She was a beautiful, blooming, innocent- looking 
girl of eighteen. Leaning upon Ids spade, and 
ceasing from his toil, the tiinner bxtked fondly 
upon her, and passionately exclaimed, '* How 
1 love thee, Sukey ; Ob, how I loves thee! 
Thou rt a sweet lass, ihouVt ; how thy old father 
loves thee \ " And then he threw his spade down, 
and drew her to his bosom, fairly weeping with 
joy. But suddenly, and as if stung by some wild 
thought, he held her away from hi in at arms' 
length, and gazing fixedly and even sternly upon 
Ler face, cried, half inquiringly, half in soliloquy : 
'" Dost know what Virtue is lilte, Sukey ? It is 
like — ah, now, what u it like ? Let me see. It is 
like — like " (doubtfully, and as if he paw through 
n glass tlarkly), "like — Oh! I sec what it'a IVkst, 
Didst ever see, dear S>ak«^.| ^v^ 






[No. 874. 

beautifhl and thrifty field of grain, waThg its rich 
and golden top backward and forward so grace- 
fbllT in sun and shadow, and filling the air around 
with sweet fragrance ? Well, it is a lovely and a 
jdeasant sight ; a sight that makes glad the heart 
of Gk>d*s creatures. And a virtuous wonuin is like 
it But ah ! Sukey dear, take a keen, cruel knife, 
and cut off the tops of the grain ; and then it 
becomes a sorrowful sight. 19'ought but straw, 
wcnrthless straw, is left; which man and beast 
shidl tread under foot, and trample on, and defile ! 
So it is with a woman despoiled of her virtue ! " 

Can any of your correspondents refer me to any 
play illustrating an inciacnt similar to this ? It 
must have been acted in London prior to the 
Mutiny of the Nore, for my old friend, shortly 
afler he witnessed it, was pressed into the naval 
service, and was a participator in that celebrated 
outbreak. C. D. D. 

New Brunswick, X. Jersey, U. & A. 

Minor €LutvM. 

Heiddberg. — A spot in the plan of this ccle- 
ated castle is called " Clara Dcttin*s Garden.** 


Who was Clara Dettin ? 


The Sign of Oriffiths the Publisher. -^^yhsit 
could induce Griffiths, the publisher of the 
Monthly Review, to adopt The Dunciad for his 
sign? J. M. 

Oilberfs " History of the City of Dublin^ ^In 
Mr. Gilberts very interesting History of the City 
qfDMin, vol. L p. 94., I have met with Uie follow- 
ing passage: 

« A woman, known as * Darkey Kelly/ who kept an 
infiuDons establishment in this alley [Copper Alley], was 
tried for a capital offence about 17ti4 ; sentenced to death, 
and publicly uurnt in 2Stuphen*s Green." 

The author informs us in the next sentence, 
that " her sister, Maria Llewellin, was condemned 
to be hanged, for her complicity in the affair of 
the Neals with Lord Carhampton;** and therefore 
it is not likelv that the printer has mistaken the 
date of Kelly*8 execution. But is it a fact, that 
any one was "publicly burnt in Stephen's Green'* 
in or about the year 1764 ? Abhba. 

Newspaper Cutting. — 

<* It is not 400 y«*arB since a baron of this realm was 
tried for high crimes and misdemeanors ; and one of the 
charges exhibited against him was, that holding in con- 
tempt the respect that man ought to have for man, he 
had suflered himself to bo carried about his own garden 
in a sort of a chair, with poles put to it, bv two of his own 
•arvanta"— Aris's JScrauj^ftaai GoxdU^ )une 22, 1795. 

Who was the baron? 


Bi^ard Brayne^ Braine, or Brain. — Can any 
of your readers favour me with any informatioB 
respecting the family of Richard Brayne, Braine, 
or Brain, who lived at or near Northwood, in the 
county of Salop, and died August, 1755 ? and what 
was the maiden name of his wife, who also died in 
1755, and who was her fEither ? S. B. 

Sir John Crosby. — Can any one through your 
journal inform me, who, if there are any, are the 
descendants of Sir John Crosby, who is aud to 
have built Crosby Ilall in Bishopsgate Street, and 
who lived about the middle or latter end of the 
fifleenth century ? Qcut. 

Bishop Oldham. — Information is requested 
relative to the descendants of Dr. Hugh Oldham, 
Bishop of Exeter, who died June 15, 1519. 

Tuos. P. Hassaum 

59. Lord Street, Chetham, Manchester. 

Arms of Sir J. RusselL — What were the i 
of Sir James Russell, Knight, Lieut.- Grovemor of 
the island of Nevis, and Grovemor and Com- 
mander of the Leeward Carribee Islands, 1686? 
and his family's lineage ? M. M. 

Distributing Money at Marriages. — Perhaps 
some of your able contributors will favour me 
with the origin of the custom practised in Allen- 
dale, Northumberland, and other northern dis- 
tricts ? The male guests, as soon as they emerge 
without the precincts of the churchyard, com- 
mence distributing money to the spectators, and 
continue so to do from thence to where they 
remain for refreshments. — I might also add another 
peculiarity in connexion with a marriage in the 
same place. Previous to the bride entering the 
doorway of the house after the marriage ceremony, 
she is met at the door, a veil is thrown over her 
head, and a quantity of cake is pitched over her. 
Have these customs anything in common with 
Eastern customs? if not, what arc their symbolical 
meaning? J. W, 


Oentleman hanged in 1559-60. — A private 
gentleman, of a good family and of a lar^e estate^ 
suffered death by hanging in March 1559-60, fur 
" a great robbery.** There is no doubt that the 
" great robbery *' must have been connected with 
political events. Can any of the many readera 
of "N. & Q." throw any light on this subject by 
means of their knowledge either of the immediate 
fact, or of the general passages of the political 
events of the time ? Cabbingtob. 

Ormonde Correggia. — Could you through your 
valuable publication give me any information as to 
the Ormonde Collection, and the Correffgios in it? 
I possess a fine Correggio, a Madonna, imnetly in 


jar. 27, 1855.] 



W 1 




the Ormonde Collection at Kilkenny Castle ; nnrl 
Mm very snxfous to ascertain how h came into tliiit 
fimily, Jind the exact date when it left it. 

There is much historical interest connected with 
ihifl picture, which waa a heirloom in the faniily. 
The engraving, when seen by Colnaghi^ waa im- 
mediutely reeogniged by him as one Tespectin-^ 
which there had been much diacussioHf the piiint- 
ID? not being kno^rn to be is existence, — in factf 
a lost one* 

The print la in the British Museum in three 
stages of engraving, with the following inscription : 

" Antonio tlA Coireggio pinxit. R. Cooper del. et 
acolp. 1763. To the Queen tbb plate U humbly In^ 
•cribed by her Majeaty's mostdevoletf jind httmbk servant, 
HichArrl Coopor. From lh« original painting of C<>r- 
regrgio, formprlv in the Ormonde Collection, but now in 
possessiofi of John Butler, Eaq/' 

Kow, in 1716, the Duke of Ormonde had been 
attainted, and his estates con 6 seated. Fie died a 
pensioner on the bounty of the Kin^ of Spain, 
naving taken part with the Pretender. John 
Buth^r was hi^ir, and would inherit this picture as 

heirloom. In 1791 he b^carae seventeenth Earl 
Ormonde, so that the painting was engraved 
[%ben the title waa extinct. 

It hits been thought that the painting may 
liave been one of the Esc u rial Correggios, and was 
given by the King of Spain to the Duke of Or* 
monde for his seryices. If you can put the 
Queries for ine in your publication, so as to elicit 
any information as to the time when it was given 
or purchased by the Ormonde family, and the cir- 
Ciinistances under which it was parted with, you 
fill confer a great obligation. Mabgarbt Fison. 

New Court Houae, Charlton, Cbeltenkam. 

P» S. — There appears to have been a sale at 
tome time or otlier, at which I believe the picture 
waa purchasedi and came from that channel into 
our possession* 

ChurchiU Property. — About ten yenrs a^ 
lOQie law proceedings were noted in The Tima^ 
referring to a fund for the benefit of personf 
named ChurchilL Can any of your readers furnish 
the particulars of its origin and distribution, &o. ? 

Que or roe Namb, 

BeUs heard 5y the droumed. ^- Will any one 
kindly refer me to the story of a man who was 
drowned in a Danish lake ; and who described, on 
being restored, after a long period of suspended 
animation, that he heard under water, in his last 
moments of consciousness, the sound of the Copen- 
hagen bells ? Alpkkp Gatty. 

J}ean Smedlet/. — I beg to renew my inquiry 

(Vol. X., p. 423.) after Dean Smcfllcy, both on its 

own account, and to correct a blunder made by 

our printer in my former Query, of ** Patres sunt 

**"W' for ** Patres sunt wtukc,'* t. e. old women. 

In reply to S. A. U*s inquiry in the same 
Number (p. 418, )^ I am SJorry to say that no ex- 
planation has vet appeared of Pope*fl agj^lome rated 
mentirm of Black more and Quarles, Ben Jouson 
and Old Dennis, the Lord'^ Anointed ami the 
Russian Bear. Nor has Ma. Cross let either re- 
tracted or supporteil his na-^ertion as to the appear- 
ance of »* S(*her Adxitce *' so early as 1716. I hare 
DO doubt that on reconsideration he finds that he 
was mistaken. Every parngraph of the p<»eia 
proves that it c<5uld mt have been written earlier 
than 1730. a 

Geltjan Bowers, — What is the orijjin of the 
Julian (or Gelyau) Bowers, found in the north of 
England ? M. J. S. 

Dial. — How may I learn to accurately mark 
out and set a dial ? JoaN Scrldb. 

Death of Dogs. — In November I saw in War* 
wiekiihire a printed bill oflTering a reward for the 
discovery of " sotne evil-disposed person or per- 
sons who did poison a dog.** Making inquiry last 
week, I was tcdd that many dMn hatl fdnce died 
in tl»e neighbourhood very sutMenly, and where 
there was not the leai^i reason to suspect thai 
poison had been adiniiu»tered ; but it was a new 
disease which had atTlicted the canine race. Has 
a similar mortality taken place in other districta P 
and what is the nature of the disease ? H. W» D* 

Verses. — In the Exchequer Record Office^ 
Dublin, there is deposited an original paper upon 
which the following lines have been written : 

" Lett En Inland, old England tn glory still rise. 
And thanks to y D. j* opeaM herVys.^ 

The document to which I referred bears no date, 
Imt It appears to me to have been written in or 
about the year 1710. To whom is allusion made 
by the words (or rather the word and letter) ** y* 
D?" J.F. F. 


Fsahn'&inie^in^ and the Nonconformisis. — Can 
any one explain why the early Nonconformists so 
much neglected the practice of p8alm*5inering in 
their worship ? Joaiv Scatitg, 

" The Lay of the Scottish Fiddle*' a poem in 

five cantna, supposed to be written by W 

S ', Esq. ; first American, from the fourth 

Edinburgh edition, London, James Cawthorn, 
]8I4< The names of the author of the abovo will 
oblige. R. iL B. 

Heavenly Guides, — Who was the author of 
The Poor Mans Pathway to Heaven^ a small black- 
letter work, dated about 1600 ? My copy lacki 
tjtle-page. Bo C. \Vi 







[No. 274. 

Minar ^nttiti foitb ^wttBtrt. 

FairchUd Lecture at St. Leonards^ Shoreditch. 
^-Thomas Fairchild, whose communication to 
the Koyal Society of Experiments on the Circula- 
tion of the Sap is printed in the Philosophical 
Traruactiotu^ 1724, and who died at Hoxton in 
1729, bequeathed money to trustees, for a lecture 
to be deliycred in the church of St. Leonard, 
Shoreditch, annually, on Whit-Tuesday. The 
Subject must be either *^ The wonderful works of 
' God in the Creation, " or " The certainty of the 
Besurrection of the Dead proved by the certain 
changes of the animal and vegetable parts of the 
Creation.** Dr. Morell (I presume the author of 
the Thesaurus that bears his name, and the friend 
of Hogarth) preached this lecture fur several 
years. I am desirous of knowinf; whether it is still 
delivered according to the will of the testator ; and 
if so, at what hour on Whit-Tuesday I must 
attend at the church in order to hear it ? 

Geo. £. Frehe. 

Roydon Hall, Diss. 

[Some celebrated men have prcacheil this lecture, Among i 
others Dr. Donne, Dr. Stukeley, and 5^Amllel Avscough ; I 
but we never hoard of Dr. Murell as one of the lecturers, 
nor does his name appear in the list furnished by Sir 
Henry Ellis, in his Jiistnry of Shoreditch, p. 288.' Mr. 
AvRcou^h delivered it from 1787 to 1804, and was suc- 
ceeded by the Kev. J. J. Kllis, Rector of St. Martin's 
Outwich, in 180.0, who lias continued lecturer until the 
present time. Xoxt Wliit-Tucsday will be the 125th an- 
niversary ; Divine Service ouinmencc<t at eleven o'clock. . 
Tliere was a local periodical published in 18.V2, called the 
Shoreditch Herald^ which if our rorrcsjwndent could l>e ! 
fortunate enough tu pick up nx\ any bookstall, be will find | 
an interesting a(.-count of the worthy founder of thi^ lee- i 
ture. Sec the number for .July, 1602, p. 12.] ' 

" Penehpe^s Wehh.*^ — I have a much mutilated 
copy of a black-letter volume so entitled. 1 I 
should be glad to learn its date, exact title-page, 
and degree of rarity. R. C. Wabdk. 


[This work is by Robort (iroene, ainl, from the prices 
ffiven in T»wndo.<s must bo extremely rare : ** Boswell, 
fe5., 7/. Vit. Roxburj^he, fifi.'iO., 5/."' It contains the 
followinpf full title-Tia^e : •* IVneloi^s Web : wherein a 
ChridtuU Mirror of Feminine Purfoction repremMits to the 
view of euery one thoHC vertucs and graces which more 
curiously beautifins the mind of women, then eythcr 
sumptuous Apparel, or Jewels of inestimable value*: the 
one buying fame with honour, the. other breeding a kinde 
of delight, but with repent Anre. In three scuerall dis- 
courses also are three speciall vertues, ne<*essary to be 
incident in euery ve.rtuous woman, pithely discussed: 
namely. Obedience, Chastity, and Sylonce. Interlaced 
with throe scuerall antl Comicall Histories. By Robert 
Greene, Master of Artes in Cambriiige. Om'ne tulit 
punctnm qui miscuit vtilo dulce. Limdon, printe<l fur 
lohn Hodgers, and Are to be soldc at his shop at the 
Flowerdeluro in Pleeto Strccte, nccre to Fetter Lane end. 
1601." See a list of Greene's innumerable pieces in Deloe's 
Anecdotes of Literature, vol ii. pp. 1H8. lOii. 291.; And 
Centura Lileraria, vol. viii. pp. 880— 3!M. Dibdin, in his 
BemhuaeeHeeSf vol i. p. 437., remarks, ** There if more to 

' be learnt of the express character of the times in the 
I pieces of Greene, Harvey, Decker, NAsh, itt., ihan in the 

elaborate disquisitions of learned historiana. And yet, 
' after all — how singular ! — in none of these cotempora> 
! neous pnxluctions is there the slightest mention of Shak- 
I speare, who was not only living but in high repute. One 
I would have thought thAt his verv 'hose, doublet* and 
! jerkin ' would have been described by some of this vivA- 

cious and talkative tribe. Who would wish to * lose one 
' drop of that immortal man ? * "] 

I Rev, Dr. Gosset. — Can any of your readers 

i oblige me with any recollections they may have 

I of the Rev. Isaac Gosset, D.D., of bibliographical 

I celebrity, other than may be found in Clarkc*s 

Repertorium Bibliographiciim, p. 455., or in the 

Gentleman s Magazine , to which I have referred ? 

I am also desirous of knowing where he was 

buried, and if he has an epitaph. His father^ 

whose name also was Isaac, died at Kensington in 

I December, 1799, at the advanced age of eij^hty* 

' eight. F. G. 

[An interesting notice of Dr. Isaac Gosset will be 
found in Dr. Dibdin's Decameron^ vol. iiL pp. 5— -8. 78L, 
and some passing notices in Dibdin's J?e}iiin?.'«cejice«, voLi 

Ep. 20o. 2U J. Gosset is described xmder the character of 
.epidus in the Bibliomania^ and those amusing lines, 
"The Tears of the Booksellers," on the death of Dr. 
Gosset (Gent. Matf.. vol. Ixxxiii. pt, i. p. 100.), are by 
the Rev. Stephen Weston. Consult Hornets Introd. t» 
Bibliography. voL ii. ]). 651., and the Classical Jourmd, 
vol. viii. p. 471. &c., for some of the prices for which the 
Gossetian tomes were sold. We cannot discover Dr. Gos- 
set's burial-place.] 

Winchester Didce Domnm and Tahda Legum 
Pcedago^icarum. — Will any reader give, or direct 
me to, the history of these ? J. W. Hewett. 

Illoxham, Banbury. 

[Dr. Milner. in his Ilistan/ of Ulnchegter, vol. il 
p. 130., edit. 1801, remarks: "That the existence of the 
.''ong of Dulce Domum can only be traced up to the dis- 
tance of About a century-; yctthc real author of it, and 
the occasion of its composition, are alroady cloudod with 
fables.'* Some of these traditionar}- notices will be found 
inWalcott's William of Wykcham and his CaHlvrteit^ p. 266.; 
and in Gentleman » Mag, for March, 179C, p*. 209., and 
July, 179G, p. 570.] 

Levinns Monk, — Who was Levinus Monk, whose 
daughter and coheiress, Mary, married Thomas 
Ben net of Babraham, Cambridgeshire, created a 
baronet in 1G60 ? P. P— m. 

[Levinus Monk was clerk of the signet in 1611. His 
signaLui-c is affixod to two docum«fiits in the British 
Museum (Add. MSS. :»750. f. 131.; 57Jt'.. f. 101.), and is 
there spelt Levinus Munck.] 

Quotation. — Who i.<« the author of the line 

" The glon* dies not, and the grief is past," 
quoted in Lockhart*s Life of Scott, vol. vi. p. 224. ? 


[This fine line is from a sonnet on Sir Walter Seott's 
death, by the late Sir Kgerton Brvdges, as stated in the 
one-volume edition of Lockhart*8 LifeofScotU edit 184^] 

Jajt. 27. 1856.] 



Waveriey Not^clji. — Wheo and where did Sir 
Walter Scott publicly acknowledge the autljor- 
shlp of the Waverley Novels ? Joa?t Scrfbe. 

[At a theatricfll liinncr* Febman' 23, I827» of which an 
Jiccount is piven m Lockhtirf* L1/0 of Seoit, odit, 1845, 





The supposition of Niebubr with respect to 
bull's blond in old Greek writers, is extremely 
far-fetched, and unwortby f>f hh ^reat reputation. 
It IS to be rerrretted that Blakcsley, in bis elabo- 
rate edition of Hcrodotu?, lias taken no notice of 
tbe passage (lib. iii. cap. 15.) where Pgammeoitiis 
b said to bave been put to death by Cambysea hy 
means of this poison; for a subject which could ' 
present ant^b didiculty to the aeutest historian of 
modern times, ou;Tht not to be slurred over by an ' 
English cominentator» whose professed object is 
"to iilnstrate, through his text, tbe time in which 
his author lived, anci the influences under which 
his work wou!d necessarily be composed." 

If we allow t!mt the Greeks were acquainted 
with priisstc acid, we must reject the usual * 
modern opinions respecting the conditions of ' 
cbemktti science in ancient ttmeSf and must sup- 
pose there were inen» livin*^ two thousand years 
ago, who were acquainted with all the discoTeries 
hitherto supposed to have been due to tbe re- 
■earcbea of the alcliemiHt?*, who knew in fact as 
much, or more, of chemiiitry than many an eipe- I 
rienced practitioner of the last century. We have 
then to account for tbe strange faet, that they 
have not chosen to reveal such seientifie acquire- ' 
ments in writing, for not tbe remotest trace of 1 
such extensive knowletlge le to be found in Greek 
authors. Although bull's blood contains the che- 
mical agents necessary for the production of ' 
prussic iicid, tbe process of its preparation from 
animal substance in any form, but eapecially in | 
that of blood, is long and intricate ; such as re- ! 

Njiulred the advanced science of 1782, and the 1 
ingenuity of a Scbecle, combined with far greater 
ptience for scientific investigation than Greeks 
fcnerally seem to have been capable of to dis- j 
fever* The process commences with evaporating 1 
the blood to dryne^^s, and then heating it in a ' 
close crucible; but in its next stage it requires 
an acquaintance with other cbemicaf agents, auch 
as ia not to be found in any extant Greek work. 
Moreover, the blood, in character and appearance, 
-"iffora so entirely from the acid, that it is highly 
'probable the Greeks, careful as they generally 
to mark in terms such differences, should 
* the same name for substances so wholly 

dissimilar : still more improbable that the Romans 
would bave imitated them in such cari-lessness. 
I am surprised that the acute and cautious Niebuhr 
did not use a little research, or consult a scien^ 
tlfic man, before he propounded such improbable 
hypotheses. Had he referred to the Aiexiphar' 
maca of Bioscoridcs Pedacius, a Greek writer on 
the materia medica of the time as supposed of 
Nero, and whose work, though it probably em- 
bodied all that had been previously knowHt as it 
was certainly long after held the very best on the 
subject, is replete with mistakes, he would have 
found a much more probable solution of the 
difficulty than that he has attempted Chap. xxr. 
of the Ahxipharmaca^ which is wholly devoted to 
this poison, commences thus in the translation of 
the editor (J. A. Saracenus) of the best edition : 

** Tatiri reccns jagolati sanguis eipotus^ ipirandi diffxcul- 
tatem ftranfjulaturnqtie cfmcitatfdumtonvHarum fauinutntptr 
meatus evm e^hfmfuti crtnvuhtfine obifrviL Vomitiim Ul 
hoc nialo vitahimiiN ne forte iurunii ejnsmodi attraolii in 
sublime clati guJaj magis irapingantur," 

He then propounds such remedies ns we might 
expect. The simple experiment of stirring a 
little fresh blood with a stick, when a mass of 
fibrine will form around it, will serve to explain 
its modvjf npemndi as poison. Pliny too, in his 
Natural Hutort/^ repeatedly refers to the danger 
of swallowing bull's blood, owing to the celerity 
with which it coagulates: see Hh(. Nat,^ lib. xi 
90. L, and lib. xxviii. 4L I. And it is worthy of 
notice, thuL he recommends tbe very same reme- 
dies as DioBCorides, viz. alkaline solvents com- 
bined with purgatives ; as ** semen brassica? 
tostum," lib. XX. 26. 3. ; " grossi eaprifici," lib, 
xxiii. G4. 3. ; ** nitrum cum lasere/* lib. xjud. 46. 
1 3. ; " coaguluni hfledi et leporis ex aceto " lib. 
xx.xviii. 45. 4. 

In brief, then-^ as ancieut authors themselves 
inform us that tbe al^a ravpov fto^rtpay^s acts as 
poison by coagulating in the sto m:\eb, we need 
not have recourse to the fanciful hypothesis that 
prus.sic acid was so designated^ when we are told 
that Psammenitus, Hannibal, Themis tocles, and 
others, died by its means, F. J. LeachaiaH) B.A* 

20. ComptoQ Tcrracse, T sling ton. 


(Vol X,, pp. 147, 102. 374.) 

Among those moral dia^osties by which the 
philosophic observer is enabled to predicate the 
conditi«m of nations and individuals^ tht» tendency 
to utter gloomy vaticinations respecting them- 
selves is not the least unfavourable. Indicative, 
in the first instance, of the presumptive probability 
of the event foretold, and of that want of confi- 
dence in their own powers in itself so (so^d^^sx*^ ^^ 
failure, the predictvotv., ^mcft, xi\x«c^^^'^iK»Ma!*a* 



[No. 274. 

terrors of divine judgment and irresistible fate ; 
and spreadinfT from mind to mind with a rapidity 
pn)pf)rtioned to its plausibility, gathers strengtn 
from its very diffusion, till at length with the ac- 
caniulated impetus of the avalanche, it crushes its 
yictim in its resistless course. Thus the pro- 
phecies which relate to this city, and which seem 
to have been adopted by its successive occupiers 
as a baneful charge upon the inheritance, testify, 
from their number and their purport^ how uncer- 
tain, whether Greek, Latin, or Turk, they felt 
their tenure to be. That, fur instance, may be 
oited of the Emperor Heraclius, related by Ri- 
gord (Vie de PkiliDpe-Auguste, collection Guizot, 
tom. XL pp. 29,30.;, that the Roman dominion 
would be destroyed by a circumcited nation, erro- 
neously supposed by him to be the Jews ; and that 
this nation, who turned out to be the Saracens, 
' should, as farther predicted by the martyr Me- 
thodius, make another irruption at the time of the 
coming of Antichrist, and oYcrspreading the face 
of the world, punish the penrerseness of Christians, 

S' the perpetration of unheard-of atrocities for 
e period of eicht octayes of years. Then there 
is the cloud of smister predictions which darkened 
the reign of the last emperor Constantine Dra- 
goses; the portentous oracle of the Erythrssan 
gybil adduced by Leonard of Chios, and cited by 
Hammer ; and the answer given by a soothsayer 
to Michael Palssologus, who was anxious to know 
if the empire whicn he had usurped would be 
peacably enjoyed by his descendants : 

"L'oracle lui r^pondit, Mamaini^ mot qai no si^fie 
rien par lui-mcme, mais qui fut expliqm^ par le dovin de 
cettc sorte : L'empiru sera posscd^ par autant de vos de- 
scendants qu'il y a des lettres dons ce mot barliaro. Pium il 
sen dt^ de votre potit^fritc de la ville de Constantinople." 
— Ducagj ch. 42. 

Finally the predicted event took place, and the 
Turks seized upon the doomed city, accomplishing 
a prophecy in the manner of their triumphant 
entry : 

** Par suite d*une proph^tie analogue on avoit bouchd la 
porte du Cirque. La vcille de la prise de Constantinople 
par Mahomet II. I'empcreur Constantin Tavnit fait ouvrir 
pour faciliter une sortie, et par unc fatale impr^voyance, 
elle n*avait pas eto refermee. Ce fut par \h que lesTurcs 
se pr^'ipit^rent dans la villc." — I^Ianne, Curmnt6» de 
Traditions, §-p., Paris, 1847, p. 36. 

The same author records another prediction, 
which possesses a present interest, inasmuch, 
though once supposed to bode evil to the Greeks, 
k is now, as is asserted, applied by the Turks to 
themselves : 

^Snivant Raonl de Dicet, historien anglais, doQt la 
chronique ne sVtend pas au-delli de 1 199, la porte d*Or ^ 
Constantinople, par laquelle cntraient les triomphateurs, 

Srtait cette proph^tie: Qoand viendra Ic roi blond 
I'Ocddent, je m'ouvrirai de moi-mfime ! Ce ne fat 
ponrtant pas par oette ports que les Latins ptfn^trtrent 
aans la vuU en 12M, car U cramts des pniph^ties qui la 
concenaknt Pavait iUt mnrer dapnia longtempa. Au- 

jonrd'hai les Turcs se sont appliqutf la tradition, qui, 
jadis, eflVayait les Grecs; ils croient fermement que la 
porte d'Or iivrera on jonr passage auz Chr^ens tad 
doivent, comme ils en sont persnad^ finir par reoonanenr 
Uville." — /(«d;p.36. 

We now come to the celebrated prophecy of 
the equestrian statue in the square of Taums, so 
emphatically recorded by the sceptical Gibbon as 
of unquestionable purport and antiquity. In 
chap. Iv. of the Decline and Fall, we read, — 

** The memory of these Arctic fleets, that seemed to de- 
scend from the polar circle, left a deep impression on the 
imperial citv. by the vulgar of every rank it was a^ 
8crte<l and ^lieved, that an equestrian statue in ths 
square of Taurus was secretly inscribed with a prophecy, 
how the Russians in the last days should become maatas 
of Constantinople. . . . ." 

To this the historian adds a conjecture, the yerifr 
cation of which we trust is still distant : 

** Perhaps the present generation may yet behold tki 
accomplishment of the prediction,— of a rare prediction, tf 
which the style is unambitious, and the data unquestiaa' 
able.*' — 2>ec2iiM and Fail, Milman's ed. 1846, toL i: 
p. 312. 

A reference to tho Byzantine and monkish as* 
thorities cited by Gibbon in his note to the abovc^ 
may lead, so far as their obscure phraseology csi 
be understood, to a different opmion aa to the 
purport of this prophecy ; as, howerer, its yalne 
and meaning have already been discnssed ii 
Frager*s Magazine, July, 1854, p. 25., to whiA 
the reader is referred, urther remarks are heif 
unnecessary. It is doubtless the same prophecy 
that Dr. Walsh records in his Journey from Cbt- 
stantinople to England, London, 8vo., 1828, p. 50. 

The opinion of a Frenchman a century ago wiD 
appear in striking contrast with those of his coob* 
trymcn at the present day ; whose future co-ope* 
ration in preyenting the fulfilment of his predictiM 
was a circumstance which he did not foresee is 
his philosophic previsions. In a letter to the 
Empress of Russia, dated 2l8t Sept. 1770, Vol- 
taire writes, — 

''J'ai dit il y a longtemps, que, si jamais IV 
Turc est diftmit,' ce sera par la Russie ; mon aupruste 1 
p^ratrire accomplira son pr^liction. . . . Je ne Mb 
pas surpris que votre ame, faite pour toutes les graadsi 
chosea, prcnne gofit i unc pareille guerre. Jo crois vss 
trou|)es de d^l>arquoment revenues en Gr^ce, ct vos flottsi 
de la Mcr Noire mena^ant les environs de Constanti- 
nople ? " 

In a subsequent letter : 

** Pour peu que vous tardiex & vous asseoir sur le trfios 
do Stambi>ul, il n'y aura pas moyen que jc sois t<^moin ds 
ce petit triomphe. . . . J'espbre que votre Majest^ 
chassera bientut de Stamboul la pesto et les Turcs." 

To this the imperial correspondent briefly re^ 

** Pour cc qai regards la prise de Constantiaopls^ is as 
la crofis pas si prochaine. Cependant il ne tani, dift-cih 


Jau. 27, 1855.] 


As not altogether irrelevant^ the following re- 
marks ol" the empress may be cited, in reference 
to her invasLOu aiid conquest of the Crimea : 

** A propot de flcort^ J^*^ on vie de vons fkiro sur c« pomt 
ma c4>afesaion g^mfrale. J*iii eu de gnuid« stxtxks durant 
cctle ffuerre; Je m*en buU nfjouie tr^ naturcllemont ; j'ai 
dit: La Kusne Ben bien conn an par ceitA guerro; an 
Term qa« cetto nation est iliiktlg«btef qn^clte poaa^e doi 
hnmrocs d'une ni<^nte Eminent, et qui ont toutes lea qna* 
lit^ qui furnif?nt Ics b^ro«$ on verra qn'cllo ne manque 
point des ressourees, ct qn'elle pcol w d^fcndre ot faire 1a 
guflrre avec vigueur lorsqa'elJe est injiutettient attaqu^/' 
— Letter io I'^oitairf^ 22nd July (2nd August), 1771» 

A somewhat diflTerent version of the prophecy 
quoted by Anon from Sansovino'^ CoUection will 
be found in a treatise entitled A Discoitrswe Pro- 
hUme concerning Prophecies^ hy John Harvey, 
Physician of Kine*a Lynn in Norfolk, London^ 
4to. (1588) ; and is cited in a curious fatidical re- 
pertory, MiTactdou$ Prophecies and Predictiona of 
Mmrnent Men^ jrc., I2mo., London, IB'21, p. 26. 

Dr, Walah, in the Appendix to the work before 
alluded to, gives (p. 436.) two copies of a very 
aingular document; one tbe original, said to have 
been inscribed on the tomb of Constantine tbe 
Greats and the other its ioterpretation, ascribed 
to Gennadius, the first patriarch of Constantinople 
aHer its capture by the Turks. It predicts tbe 
overthrow of the race of the Palicologi by '* the 
kingdom of Ishraael and him who is termed Ma- 
homet ; " and the destruction of Ishmael in turn 
hy " the yellow-haired race,'* with the assistance of 
the western nations, who shall take ** the seven* 
hilled city with its imperial privileges,*' Eton 
alludes to the same prediction, as asserting that 
the Russians^ under the title of **the Sons of 
Yellowness," will conquer Constantinople ; and 
Forster, referring to it, cites the following passage 
in the notes to his singular work, Mahonimed' 
anism Utweiled, S(^c^ London, 2 vols. 8vo., 1829 r 

" Wallachiuj in Vkk MahomctiB (p. isa) refert, Turcaa 
hodienio« in annalibus mis legerev tamdiu pervdiuntm 
ngnnm Mahammedicum, donee venia&t Jl^tuo/i h'mndi; 
t9,Jlam ct athifim, vel filii ex saptoitrione, fiavia et albis 
cmpIUij^ Mcunanm alioruni inteqiretationem ; ntri antem 
Soaci hie intelligendi, c«u volunt nonnulH, aliis diacu- 
tModum reliaquo.''— S4.huitena, EccUa. Muhamm. Brto, 
/)i£M.. ArgeaL 1S68, p. 22. 

It is, perhaps, the same prediction, though more 
omintkus and presently significmit in expression, 
which is related by a Georgian author, probably 
of the eighteenth century, also aa having l>eeo en- 
graven on the tomb of Constantine the Great : 

** riujiieurs nations le r^imimnt aur la Mer Noire, ei war 
le continent; lea Isroa^itos seront vaincuf, ct la piiisaanee 
de leur nAlion aflaiblie tombera dana ravilisaemenL 
Le4 pcTiples eoalis^ de U Ruaaie ct des enviroaa snbjn- 
nATOOl Ismael, prondront lc« sept colline?, ct tont ee qui 
ka eotaure." — Lebean, HUtair^ du Baa-Empire^ iKlition 
-Martin, p. 330. 

Russians for their part seem fuUy alive to 
elvea the appa- 

rently divine mission of fulfilling theae vanoua 
prophecies. We are informed by the Edinburgh 
Review (vol I. p, 343.), that in 1769 a pamphfet 
was published at St. Petersburg, entitled The 
FaU of the Turkish Empire^ predicted by the 
Arab astrologer, Mousta Eddin, the unlucky au- 
thor of which is said to have been thrown into the 
sea by the Turkish Sultan; and a collection of 
curious predictions concerning the same event 
was published at Moscow in 1828 ; perhaps* as 
the reviewer suggests, as a sort of Piece JusHfka* 

Those who may wish to poraue the sobject, ore 
referred to the chapter on the Ottoman Empire in 
Dr. Miller's Lectures on the Phil of Mad, History $ 
the Mohammedanism Unveiled of the Rev. Charlei 
Forster, before alluded to ; and tbe able essay on 
" Providential and Prophetical Ilistoriea " in the 
Edinburgh Uemew, vol. 1. p. 287. 

There remain yet to be noticed the vaticinal 
deliberations of that class of writers who have be* 
lieved themselves qualified to accept the Apoca- 
lyptic invitation, ^* Let bini that hfttb understand- 
ing count the number of the beftBt-** Among 
these Dr. Miller has succeeded in making out to 
his own satisfaction tliat there was a period of 
exactly 666 years between the second Nicene 
Council, hy which tbe worship of im.igea was an* 
thorised, and the taking of Constantinople ; thua, 
he thinks, the identity is established between thft 
Greek Church, and the prediction concerning the 
second beast. Others are as firmly convinoedf 
and with as good reason, that ** tbe man " referred 
to is the heresiarch Miihomet, the numeral value 
of whose name spelt with Greek charaetera will 
be found to amount to the mystical aura, three 
hundred three scare and six \ thus, *— 

10 + 1 + 7« + 40 -h 5 i- 300 + 10 + 200 = 6<W 

which ConsUnltnopIe, being like Rome, built 
upon seven hills, is aptly typified by the seven- 
Leaded beast ** on which the woman sitteth." See 
the able essay on ** Emblematic and Chronological 
Prophecies" in the British Review, vol, xviii, 
p. 396., the learned author of which is so convinced 
of the plausibility of this theory, that he makes it 
the basis of his scheme of Apocalyptic interpret- 
fltion. Tbe same view was held bv tbe Roman 
Bishop AValmsley, whose theory, however, has 
been decisively disproved by that able controver- 
sialist, G. 8. Faber. 

In conclusion it may be observe<l that these 
prophecies^ however variously worded and vaguely 
recorded, have yet a certain significance and con- 
sistency ; they show that the belief is entertained 
by the Turks themselves that the Ottoman em- 
pire will eventually be destroyed by a nortbem 
and a Christian nation : this belief is itself an im- 
portant agent in the fulfilment of the prediction 
but we truat fgnrentlv that tAwi Wttiaw^ ^ 






[No. 274. 

not now at hand for its accomplisbment, and that 
Great Britain may not have her share bj some 
irretrievable reverse to her arms, perhaps her 
first step in that " Decline and Fall which his 
torj tells us is the fate of all nations. 

William Bates. 

THE schoolmen. 

(Vol. X., p. 464. ; Vol. xi., p. 36.) 

My knowledge of the schoolmen is too slender 
to warrant me in offering an opinion unasked; 
but I come within J. F.^ requisites, being "a 
living man who has read one treatise;" and 
having perused ten iu>lume8 and two numbers of 
" N. & Q." may claim " the advantage of some 
modern reading.** I am sorry that he finds Smi- 
glecius "obscure and unconnected;** but hope 
tliat, as his view was taken on ** looking into,** it 
will be changed by reading, I know no book 
more likely to appear " obscure and unconnected '* 
than Simpson*s Euclid on a cursory perusal, or 
less so than the logic of Smiglecius if gone through 
with the attention usually bestowed on the other. 
The title-page of the only edition which I know 
(I believe it. is the last), that of Oxon, 1658, 4to., 
pp. 761., says : 

** In qua quicquid ia Aristotelico Organo, vel cognita 
necessarium, vel obscuritate perplexum, tarn clare et 
pcrspicue, quam solido ac nervose pcrtractatur." 

This, I presume, was not a compliment paid by 
the author to himself; but from the great assist- 
ance I derived from his book, in reading the 
Organon^ I think it well-deserved. 

Thougii J. F. objects to the judgments of " co- 
temporaries,** I wish to add, in support of my 
opinion, that of Rapin, as quoted approvingly by 
Bayle. (Die/., art. SMiGLscias.) 

^ Smiglmus, jesuito polonais, fut un dcs deraiers dia- 
lecticicns qui <fcrivit sur la logique d'Arisloto le plus 
subtilcmcnt et Ic plus solidemont tout ensemble. II a 
pt'netre, par la sagacitt^' de son esprit, ce quMl y avait k 
approfondir en cette science, avec une clartd et uneju$tes$e 
qu on ne trouve presque point ailkurt.^' — lUpin's RtjUxions 
aur la Loglqiu^ p. 383. 

Bayle observes, that the English have done 
justice to this work by reprinting it, and that 
some were disposed to do more than justice, may 
be inferred from a story in Terra Filius, No. 21., 

•* A member of a college, where Aristotle had no reason 
to complain of being treated with disrespect, having been 
heard to sav, * That the best book that ever was written, 
except the l^ible, was Smiglecius.' ** 

I know less of Zabarella, but in readine his 
commentary on the Posterior Analytics^ I did not 
perceive *' the difiuseness of style.** That subiect, 
at least, is not "firivolous;** and I do not think 

any of those enumerated in the tabl6 of contents, 
prefixed to his logical works, are so. I refer to 
the 17th edition, Venetiis, 1617, 4to., pp. 700. 
Bayle calls him '* un des plus grands philosopfaes 
du 16° sibcle,** and says : 

" n enseigna la logique pendant quinze ann^es, et pok 
la philosophie juaqu^ sa mort II publia des commea- 
taires sur Aristote ; qui firent connaltre c^ae son esprit 
^tait capable de d^brouiller les grandes difficult^ et ds 
comprendre les questions les plus obscures.'* 

If J. F. has time and patience to fp thoroncfalj 
into the object of his inquiry, I believe the best 
book is the Disputationes metaphysuuB of Suares 
(torn. ii. fol., Geneva, 1614). I say this, not <■ 
my own experience, having referred to it oe- 
casionally only, but on that of Schopenhans 
(1 Parerga und Parcdipomena^ p. 51.), who calls il: 

" Dlesem Uchten Korapcndio der ganzen scholostischa 
Weisheit, wosclbst man ihre Bekanntschaft zu socha 
hat, nicht aber in dem breiten Getrttsche ^eistkia 
dentschcr Philosophie Professoren, dieser QointesBesx 
aller Scbaalheit und Langwciligkeit.** 

Schopenhauer is perhaps the highest authority oi 
these questions ; and I am confident that he woaU 
not express an opinion on a book without reading 
it, or bestow praise where it was not fully de 
served. H. B. C. 

U. U. Club. 


(Vol. ix. passim.) 

The following addition to your notes on this 
sulnect, I copy from the Silva Iheologice Symboliat 
of Joh. Uenricus Ursinus, Norimbergce, 1665: 
" cxcix. 
" Smaragdini ocidi. 

** * Rex sedens in solio judicii dissipat, omue malam 
intuitu.' — Proverb, xx. 8. 

** A pud Cvprios juxta Cetarias marmoreo Leoni is 
tumulo Keguli llermiso oculi erant inditi ex Smaragdii^ 
ita radiantibus etiam in gurgitem, ut territi instramentt 
refugerent thynni, diu mirantibus novitatcm piscatoribei^ 
donee mutavbre oculis gem mas '* (Pliniu$, lib. xxxriL 
cap. 17.) *^ Ita bonus justusque priuceps fugat ocalonai 
quasi fulgore improborum colluviem. Odere illi iatom 
non minus quam ululu3 solem. Innocentia sola non fbgit 
amat etiam ct colit ; quid enim oculis Smaragdinis Uetius? 
yisuve jucuudius? 

Syncsius' Epist. ii. 
Leges qui metuit, nil habet metuere." 

Mr. Douce, in his Illustrations of Shakspeare 
(1807, vol. ii. p. 192.), refers to several old writers, 
by whom the epithet ** green** has been applied to 
eyes, particularly the early French poets. Chancer 
has given to one of the characters in The Kmght$s 
Tale, eyes of the same colour : 

** His nose was high, his eyin bright dirym,** 

Jan. 27. 1855.] 




In ne Two Kobie Kinsmm (Act V. Sc. 1.) we 

also lind : 

" Oh vouchsafe. 
With that thy rare (frecn eye," &c, 

Steevens notes these two instntic&s on the pass&^e 
JB Romeo andJuUet nkendy quoted bj Mn Ternple* 
addini^ — "Arthur Hull (the most ignnrsiiU and 
absurd of all the translators of Homer), in the 
fourth Iliiul (4to., 1581), calls Minerva 
" * The green eide goddeae.' ** 

I renieraber receiving, when at school, as an *' im- 
position," for ptfrsiatently tranEluting yXavKmim; 
*' green/* or rsither " sea-green eyed," as many 
hundred lines of the ^neid as there were letters 
in the oireridtng epithet, A couplet, wLicIi pro- 
bably prompted I he offence, still clin^^a to my 
memory in connexion with this incident of my 
** sal lid ** days ; it comes, porbaps^ from an imitn- 
tion of some old French or Spanish ballad, and 
refers of course to the eyes of aome fair damsel : 

** Now tliey were green as a mooiiog sea, 
And now they were black iw blue It can be,'* 

Late years have added strength to the mridiiy of 
this opinion, anil, to use the words of Ursinus, 
"quid oculis Smaragdinis l^tius ? visuve jucun- 
diua ? " Indeed, I can only tbink of the goddess, 
"too wise to look throuj^h optics bhick or blue,'* 
as possessed of eyes tinged with the emerald. 
Will any correspondent say why we should not so 
interpret Homer a epithet ? A. Challst£Th. 


Dr. ManteWs Proctu (Vol xi,, pp, 33, 34.). — It is 
with very ootiaJdurAhle pleimure that 1 notice the com in a- 
nic&cioii from Dr. Manskll, dcLaihng an improved me- 
thod of developing the |lre«(Tve<J collodioniscd pidtea. It 
18 evidently so perfect and so simple of appUcatiun, that 
there can Lhc but ane opinion about tbo matter. 1 need 
scarcely Jidil that 1 shull certainly adopt it, and hei; to 
offer my heat thonka for so huppya suggestion. With a 
manipulalor ao sjigaciouA a* t>u. M.\j«siiLi, there In no 
photographic proccM that 19 good in principle that could 
ultimately fail in hia hands. Geo. SuAnuoLT. 

Mr, ThompsnfCg CopUs nf the Ranhael Drawings, — By 
what process did Mr. Thurston Ihomp^on procure hi'a 
negatives of the Raphael Drnwings, «o justly prai.^ed bv 
jrwi in your notice of the PJiotognipbic Kxhibition ? Will 
thAt geatleman be kind enough to aav whether it was by 
aimplo superposition? or were they taken by the camera? 

TaHiot V* Z^rwAf. — We are glad to hear that the 
qwEMiio rex aftf wliich haa 80 long agitated the photogra- 
phic world, is at length at rest. We aaderstand that on 
the one hand no attempt is to be made to net anide tho 
verdict, nor on the other to raiw the points of law which 
were mooted at the trial ; and finally that Mr. T&lbot, 
notwithstanding he has been a great loe»cr by the ex- 
en»c« incurred in the experiments, &c, undertaken by 
'~i licfore taking out hi* patent, does not intend to per- 
->io iu» ^K^katioii lor it* ]*«i«wai. 

** H*iloiype. — We have received the following from 
Mr. Hill, in relation to the miluroi colours. We are 
nnnhle to give auy farther information upon this subject 
than that which the notice contains. We may say, how- 
ever, that one cttu.*e of Mr, Ililfi delay is owing to the 
lingering illness of bia wife, who Is at the prc»eui moment 
lying Very low witli consumption. He says, •Her case 
has required and received most of my attention for a 
ye;ir jnut, or, unthout any doubt, I would have been oat 
with the colours.* 

" * The yatural Calourg, — Dagacrrcotypists, and others, 
who wish to he informed as to my present plan for im- 
parting a knowledge of my fidiochromic Proctsit, will 
plea*t; funiish me, ptuttatjr prud {no other will be received), 
with their yamet, Fi^st OJict, County, and Statr, IhosQ 
who do ao will he addresaeil with full partiouiara. My 
delay for tho past year, end other matters, will be aatis- 
fiiciorily explained. Address, 

L. L. Hiu^ 

- Greene Co., N. V. 

•* * Westkili. Dec. 11, 1854.*" 

From Humphrrg't Journal a/ the Dau/uaTeotffpt^ Sfc, 

Sir Becil GrenmUe (Vol x., p. 417. ). - T. E. D. 
sent a letter of Sir lievil Grenville's for insertion. 
Will you be BO good as to give place to these lines 
of inquiry, to ask whether T. E* D. is aware of 
any other letters of Sir Bevil GrenvtUe hitherto 
unpublished ? or of any MS. annals of that illaa- 
trtous family, aa an antiquary is desirous to trace 
the early history and connexion between the 
Grenville branch at Stowe in Cornwall, and 
George Lord Lansdowne the poet. l>i<l the 
latter ever live at Stowe? and when did the 
Cornwall property pasa into other bands ? Again, 
in what degree of consanguinity did Sir Ricbard 
Grenville, Lord of Neath Abbey in Glamorgan, 
South Wales, stand to the renowned Sir Bevil 
and Lord LanstJowne ? and what caused the 
breaking up of the Grenville branch in South 
AVnles ? G. G. 

Anecdote 0/ Cannhig (Vol xl, p. 12.). — If 
E. P. S. will turn to the second series of A Bestir 
dence at the Court of London^ bv Richard Rush, 
the American ambajisador, he wdl, I believe, find 
the anecdote he is in search of. I cite this from 
memory. The game is not of twenty- one, but that 
of "Twenty questions;** and on this occasion, if I 
remember rightlyj eighteen or nineteen had been 
asked when Canning gnossed " The Wand of the 
Lord High Steward,'* The success of the ques- 
tion depends upon bis power of logical division, 
and with this aid it rarely requires even twenty 
questions to arrive at the object thought of. 

D. W. 

Biblical Question (ToL x., p. 4D5.). — Yon no- 
tice a Bible (Cambridge, 1663), sold for filtCL*ii 
IttineM at bi^thaby and Wii^pgoa'ai hftv--" 




[No. 274. 

(1 Tim. iv. 16.) «Thy'' instead of "The*; doc- 
trine. AVill you or any of your readers inform 
me of the cause of value of thb volume ? Is it 
from its being supposed to be an intentional mis- 
print, or the rarity of the edition ? I possess one 
of the date of 1660 (John Field, London), having 
the same reading of the above passage. H. AV. D. 

The Episcopal Wig (Vol. xL, p. 11.). — The 
first modern bishop who abandoned the episcopal 
wig, was the Honourable Edward Legge, Bishop 
of Oxford, 1815 ; and he, it was said, had a special 
permission from the Prince Regent to do so. 

E. F. 

James Ws Writings (Vol. x.,p. 485.). — G. N. 
Inquires wliethcr certain devotional writin^rs by 
King Jumes II. were ever published, and, if so, 
under what title, &c. ? I Imvc an 

<< Abridfpient of the Life of James II., extracted from 
an Enj^iish manuscript of the Rev. Father Francis San- 
ders, of the Society of Jesus, and Confessor to liis lato 
Majesty, &c. 

"Also, a Collection of the said King's own Thoughts 
upon several subjects of Piety, by Father Francis Britton- 
neau, one of the same Society. *^Done out of French from 
the Paris Edition. 1703. London, printed for K. Wilson, 
Bookseller at Maidstone in Kent, and sold by the Book- 
sellers of London and Westminster. 170-L Price 2s." 
12mo. pp. 192. 

from p. 109. to the end are — 

** The Sentiments of James II. upon divers subjects of 
Piety,'' which collection, such as it is, says the French 
translator's advertisement, " is no more tliau a plain and 
fidthful Translation of what he had set down with his 
own hand in English." 

" The approbation " of this work is dated Paris, 
the 13th of December, 1702. E. P. Shirley. 


Canons of York (Vol. xi., p. 11.). — The va- 
cancy of a canon residentiary of York is obliged 
to be given, not to the first man, but to the pre- 
bendary of York, who applies for it. My au- 
thority is a prebendary of that cathedral. £. F. 

Rose of Sharon =^ Jericho (Vol. x., p. 508.). — I 
think Mb. Midoleton must allude to the ^* Rose 
of Jericho,** Anastatica hierochuntica, a cruciferous 
plant, the Kaf Maryam, " Mary's Hand," of the 
Arabs, which, growing in the wastes of Arabia and 
Palestine, has the property of recovering its fresh- 
ness when placed m water, after having been ga- 
thered and dried. Most botanical woru will give 
farther information on this point. Sxleucus. 

Eminent Men horn in the same Year fVol. xi., 
p. 27.). — Looking at the circumstances tnat your 
correspondent has taken both England and France, 
and has included Chateaubriand and Castlereagh, 
it 18 not too much to sappose that twenty men 
might have been named, EngUihmen or French- 

men, of whom seven being bom in the same year 
would be quoted as a coincidence. Again, cch 
temporaries of the highest note are usually between 
fifty and sixty years of age at the same time. 
The search for a coincidence, then, maj be fjurly 
conducted by picking out twenty men of fame 
who are born in the same decade. Supposing eai^ 
year of that decade to be as likely as any otba to 
be the year of birth, it is not more than aeventeei 
to three against some one year giving seven or 
more of them. It is about an even dance thtt 
the coincidence would be found once, at least, ii 
four trials. 

It appears then that of twenty cotemporaiia 
who are within ten years of each other, it is ail 
six to one against seven or more being of oae 
year. And it is never difficult to find, in tif 
great countries, twenty such cotemporaries Wi 
are all of high fame. It is true that a dvM 
containing men so remarkable as Napoleon «k 
Wellington cannot often be found. I. 4. U 

Murray of Broughton (VoL x., p. 144.).— It 
answer to Y. S. M., I beg to inform him tkl 
there is no proof that Mungo Murray of Brou^ 
ton (or Brochtoun), who had a charter in IMI 
of lands in Galloway, was second son of Cuthbert 
Murray of Cockpool, as stated by the inacconta 
peerage writer Douglas. It is very likely, hot* 
ever, that he was a cadet of that family. ** Johoi 
of Murray, of Kirkcassalt, sone and ayr of Ua- 
quhile Stevin of Murray of Brochtoun," is piff- 
suer of an action before the Lords AudiU»% 
March 23, 1481 ; and is styled "of Brochtoun' 
in a subsequent notice respecting the lands d 
Kirkcassalt in 1490. Between these dates, how- 
ever, appears the name of " Moungo Murray of 
Brochton ;** and I have met witn notices of 
" Herbert Murray, son to Unquhile Mungo Mo^ 
ray of Brochtoun," as flourishine; in 1563 sad 
1564. A descendant, probably George Murnff 
of Brochtoun, had a charter in 1602 of the lanoi 
of Mekill Brochtoun and Little Brochtoun; ia 
which, after the heirs male of his body, Joht 
Murray (aflerwards Earl of Annandale), son of 
Charles Murray of Cockpool and the heirs male of 
his body, whom failing, W illiam Murray and Mal- 
colm Murray, brothers-german of George, aiiA 
their heirs male respectively, are called to the 
succession. It in probable that George was father 
of John Murray of Brochtoun, who married i 
coheiress of Cockpool, as mentioned by Y. S. M. 


Knights of St, John of Jerusalem, (VoL x^, 
p. 301.). — In the notice of James Sandilandi 
several mistakes occur, which onlj recjuire to be 
noticed. Sir James Sandilands is said to have 
reaiffned the property of the Order into the hsnde 
of the Queen of England^ instead of the Queen of 
Scotland, Torphichen is printed Torphioaa ; and 

Jam. 27. 1855.] 



Polmniso, Polotiaiae. Sir James sat in the Scot- 
tish Parliament at the head of the Biirona as Lord 
Sl John, in virtue of his office of Preceptor of 
Torphichen ; and after the erection of the p<i8ses- 
fiions of the Order into the temporal lordship of 
Torphichen, was designated "Lord St, John," 
" Lord Torphichen," and ** Lord St, John of Je- 
rusalem," indtscriminatelj. He was dead In 1587, 
being in that year called "deceased;" and from 
Lis grandnephew and heir descends the present 
Lord Torphicben, H. H. 

Charles L and hit Relics (VoL vi., pp. 173. 578.; 
Vol. vii., p. 184. ; Vol. x., pp. 245. 416. 469.). — 
Your correspondent Mr. Huouss suggetts that a 
list of autiientic relics of the royal martyr would 
be an acceptable oflfering to " N. & Q/^ Allow 
roe to contribute rav mite towards such an nnder- 
takiiinr, by the following extract from Hillier*s 
Narrative of the aUempted Escapes of Charles I^ 
I^ndoQ, 1 852 1 

" An ancestor of the name of Howe, of Mr. Thomaa 
Cooke, now reodeot at Kewf>ort, ia the U\^ of Wight, 
was At this time rJan.t 1646] Ma^tc-r Ganncr mt the 
C&atlc of Caria brook ; and oa a mark of the king's scum 
of tbe attention paid to him by that oflicer» he on one 
oocjution presentft'i him with the staif he ycBs^ using. The 
ivory head of thi^ relic \a fttiil in th« po&»euion of Mr. 
€3ooke ; it is inlaid with silver, and unscrews, the top 
forming a scent-boiL. Mr. Howe hod also a son, a litUe 
boy who was a great favourite of Charlie* : one day* seeing 
him with a child^a sword by hi^ .«^idc« the king askf^ him 
what he intended doiog with it ? ♦ To defend yonr mnjcsty 
finom yoar vnajevtj^ enemies," wm the n^ply ; an answer 
which so plea^^ed the king, that he gave the ohlld ih« 
ajgnet ring he was in the habit of wearing^ ttnoa Ms finger 
|{|fte ring has descended to a Mr, Wallace {of Southsea)^ 
I kinsman of Mr. Cooko. 

** It is also recorded that Mr. Worseley of Gatcombe, 
sived hJ8 Miye-4ty*3 watdi (still preserved in the family) 

I a gift, the morning be was leaving the Ldond/* &e. 

Enp-avings of the cane-head and ring are giren 
%% Ti, 71*. of the work. 

Perhapa the followin*^ extract from the THar^ of 
^Capt, Richard Symonds may serve to discover the 
whei*eabouts of tie king^B chess-board. 

" (May 1644). Roimd about the king's cheia-hoard this 

* Subditus et Frtnceps Istu sine sanguine oertent' " 


Epigram in a Bible (VoL xi., p. 27.). — Perhaps 

iome of your readers, while looking up the author 
of this epigram, may happen to find out the author 
of the following translation : 

♦* One day at least in every week. 
The MCta of every kind, 
Their doctrlaefl here are sure to seek* 
And jost as sure to ind.^ 

It ia rather an illuitmtion of our monoayllabic 
iuguAge, that though the transLation hia raore 
latter than the original, yet, counting evay a» « 

Authority of Aristotle (Vol x,, p. 508.). — In 
his Hisi. Anim,, iii. 5., Aristotle says : 

Thus translated by Theod. Gaza : 

** Nervorum mox ordiaem pereeqaemar. Ongo eorom 
qnoqae in corde esL^' 

See abo De Spiritu, cc. ri* ix. There can be 

no doubt^ therefore, as to the opinion of Aristotle, 
that the nerves have their origin in the heart 
Br. Southwood Smith (PhiL of Health, u 76.) 
appears to corroborate the Aristotelian view : 

•• The organic nerves, diatribnted to the organic organs, 
take their origin and have their chief seat in the cavities 
that coQtuin the main instruments of the organic life, 
namelv, the chest and abdomen. The^c nerves enconi' 
pass the great tnmka of the blood-vessels that coovej 
arterial blood to the organic orgaJia." 



" Kastlichc Beispiele von der anglanbljcbea Vcratockt- 
heit der scholastiker f flhrt Galilai in aetneni Dialogus de 
Sifficmate Mvndi (Colloq, i Augtist. Treboc, lt>85J an* 
Ein herUhmter A.nX zn Vcnedig iemonstrirte ad nctdot in 
einer anatomiscben Vorlesung, daas der grttaate Nerven- 
stamm von Him ausgehe und nur ein sehr diintier Faden 
gleich einera Funiculus rum Herzen dringe* und wandte 
sicli dann mit der Frage an eincn nnwesenden Peripate- 
liker, oh er aich nicht tiberzeugt habe, daas der Ursprong 
der Nerven das Gehim und nicht da« Hcrz sei? Aber 
der Peripatetiker gab star Antwort, nachdem er sich cine 
Zeit kng besonnen hatte : * Equiiiem ita aperte rem ocn- 
lis iubjccisti, ut nisi textas Ahstotelius aperte nervoa ex 
cordf deducens obstaret, in seiitentiam suam pertracturcs 
me fneriB."?— P. 258. (Feaerbach, Pierre Bayle^ Leipzig, 

H. B. C, 

U. U. Clab. 

Farrants Aidhem (VoL ix.» p. 0.). — Farrant, 
in hia anthem, appears to have compiled it from 
several sourceSi probably the following: 

" Lord, for Thy tender mercies' sake [SL Lnka i. 78*, 
8t James v. II.], forgive us that which is past; [forgive 
tis all that is past, — Qmf^ ffoijf CbmmMmon,'] and give as 
grace to amend oar sinfkl lives; [That it may please 
Thee to endae us with the graee of Thy Holy Spirit, to 
amend our lives* — Litanjf,'] that we mny incline to virtna 
[Lord, incline oar hearts to keep this law,— Cboun., Mokf 
Communitm.] and decline firom vice. [Concede, ut ad nul- 
lum dechnomuA peccatum, — Bramtr, Sari^.j f* 18*^** 

MACK£irzt£ Walcott, MJL 

Well Cfiapel (Vol x., p. 525.), — DtmiTROXB 
writes, " The spring of water flows from under 
the altar, which is marked with four crosses.** 
After a tolerably extensive search I must admit I 
have never found an altar or torn baton e so marked, 
the very usual number of crosses on Roman 
Catholic altara erected during the sixteenth and 
seventeenth centuries is " five," intended as sym- 
bols of the five wounds of Christ ; some few are 
marked with ** seven," these are figurative of the 
seven sorrows of tli^iiHiPI and to these may be 





[No. 274. 

added the number of " eight,** a rare occurrence, 
and perhaps used only on tombstones, where thej 
are commemorative of the eight Beatitudes. Your 
correspondent will confer a great kindness by ex- 
plaining the meaning intended to be conveyed by 
*'four crosses.** Tn modern Roman Catholic altars, 
no longer or rarely built of stone, a small square 
piece of marble is let into the wood on which a 
single cross is inserted. Hemrt Davenet. 

«» Condendaque Ltxica^ ^e, (Vol. ix., p. 421. ; 
Vol. X., p. 116.). — These lines, for which Mb. 
Gantillon inquires, and which are quoted in 
the preface to Liddell and Scott*8 Lexicon^ will 
be found, as might be expected, in the Poemata 
of our great English lexicographer Dr. Johnson. 
They occur as follows in the first verse of the 
well-known poem, 

•• rxaei seayton. 

(Post Lexicon Anglicanum auctum et emcndatam.) 

** Lexicon ad finem longo luctamine tandem 
Sculjger at duxit, tenuis pertiesus opells. 
Vile indignatus studium, nagaaque moiestas, 
Ingemit exosus, tcribendaque lexica mandat 
Damaatis, pccnam pro pccnis omiiibus unam/' &c 

This has been very pleasingly rendered in En- 
glish verse by his biographer Mr. Murphy Q^ Es- 
say on the Life and Genius of Samuel «fohnson, 
LL.D.,** prefixed to many editions of the Dic- 
Honary and WorlU)^ which I shall here transcribe : 


(After revisiag and enlarging the English Lexicon or 

*< When Scaliger, whole years of laboor past, 
Beheld his Lexicon complete at last. 
And, weary of his task, with wond'ring eyes. 
Saw from words piled on words a fabric rise, 
He cursed the industry', inertly strong, 
In creeping toil that could persist so long ; 
* And if,' enraged he cried, * Heaven meant to shed 
Its keenest vengeance on the guilty head. 
The drudgery of words the damned would know, 
DoomM to ¥rrite Lexicons in endless woe,' " &c 

It appears from the above that B. II. C. was 

Suite correct in attributing the original lines to 
08. Scali^er. The epigram which he noted will 
be found in the GentUmarCs Magazine for 1748, 
p. 8., and which, as Mr. Murphy remarks, was 
*' communicated without doubt by Dr. Johnson ** 
to his friend ** unwearied Urban.** J. K. G. 


Rhymes connected with Places (Vol. v., p. 293.). 
— The following are in the moorlands of Staflbrd- 
ahire, not far from Alton ; Grin is Grindon : 

"Calton, Caldon, Waterfall, and Grin, 
Are the four fou'eit places 1 ever was in.** 

Ita testor, GcLiEuirs Fraseb, J. C. B. 

Alton, Staffbrdahlre. 

Poetical Tavern Signs (Vol. x., pp. 33. 329.).— 

At Street-Bridge, Chadderton, near Manchater* 
referring to a coalpit chimney hard by : 

** Altho* the engine smoke be black. 
If you'll walk in I've ale like sack.** 


In riding through Dorsetshire two or three 
years ago, my attention was caught in passing bj 
a very old sign-board, representing a stag with t 
ring round its neck, and the following lines below: 

** When Julius Cocsar reigned here, 
I was then but a little deer ; 
When Julius Cnsar reigned king. 
Upon my neck he placed this ring. 
That whoso me might overtake. 
Should spare my life for Caesar's sake^*' 

The stag was almost effaced, and the lines war 
much obliterated by the action of rain and IK 
The inn is called " King*s Stag." It is on yot 
right, a little off the road from Lydlinch to Huet 
bury Bryan. Before you come to it, you p* 
an inn called *^ Green Man," with a very oU 
sign-board, representing a gentleman entirelj 
clad in green. PHix.oL06Ci 

BoUnghrohe's Advice to Swift (Vol. x., p. 346.; 
Vol. xi., p. 54.). — Mr. Breen does not seem t0 
be aware of the fact that, in French, instructioBi 
(prdonnances) are commonly put in the infinitir^ 
rarely in the imperative. Such being the &c^ 
there is no need to adopt the suggested change d 
r into 2, at the end of the verbs nourrisser^fatigm^ 
and laisser. 

Me. Breen charitably suggests that by soupr 
I probably intended soupirer. Certainly : tk 
error was occasioned by the proximity ofs*asso9fir 
in my note. I think soupirer far preferable to 
sonner^ and I have now little doubt that the formtf 
was Bolingbroke*s word. Allow me to thank 
Mr. Breen for his reply. Thoush I have beei 
obliged to dissent from some of nis remarks oa 
Sterne*s French, I am fully sensible of the sound- 
ness of most of his criticisms on French compoa* 
tion, and think he has done good service for 
" N. & Q." C. Mansfield Ikglbbt. 


Tenure per Baroniam (Vol. ii., p. 302. ; Vol. z., 
p. 474.). — Baro and Rev. William Fbaseb are 
referred to a treatise, entitled Tenure aai 
Peerage by Barony, published by Messrs. Stevens 
& Norton in August, 1853, where they will find 
the subject in question discussed. Copies of the 
pamphlet arc left for them with the writer*s com- 
pliments at the publisher's, Mr. Beirs, 186. Fleet 
btreet Ahoh. 

Earthenware Vessels found at Fountaitu Abbey 
• (Vol. X., p. 386.). — It was a freauent pnctioe to 
I use bellarmines, or grey-beards (the guied jugi 

Jax. S7. 1855.] 



SO called from a bearded mark on the neck), in 
the conslructiotj of old walls. Tliere are couBtaiil 
czamples of thia in England. The object wat 
nrobablj to combine strength mriih lighrnes^ on 
the prmciple of our modern hollow bricks. In 
the ufi|>er portion of the wall of Caracal Ia*8 Circua. 
near Home, are manj large globular amphora? 
embedded m the maaoury tu rows. 

W^ J. fi£R]iuARi> Smith. 

Jnhilee o/1809 (Vol 3tJ„ p. \Z,).^An Accmmt 
of thr Cetebmtron of the Jubihf of 1809, in tor ions 
Parts if the Kingdom^ wjw published in a quarto 
Toluine at Birniiu^bam shortly after. A copy is 
QT was on isAa at Russell Smithes, Soho Square. 


of 1«W> 



thmy rt|vjnra very t;i 

VOTSa 03f BOOKa, BTC. 

The decision of the great literary priz&i* Tht JBumett 
B^qtttH^ far ilie two best treatises ^ On the BeiDg and 

Aturibw'^'-' "^ •'■'«i ' <"'^^ r.i-.,'.. nr Al>erd«n o» Satard«iy 
ImS- ^ re, for the first prize, 

r Thompson, A.M*, of 
the second, uf 600/., the 
of 8L Mftry** CoUei^t^ St. 
than 208 comi>etitor8, aod 
. Mr, Henry Ilogi'r*, 
u? in th^'ir decbion. 
il olhers of the 
-n tiic ^Munier 
C ' « Quarterly jimrw t>rt ^oIltembe^T I i" *>.'>, 

V. . much iiitereit ty hist*' H*^) I ^tuf^-nt-^, 

bat rrprmii!'"! ;t m a volume entitled ///«/■ 
t^Otmitfhttrp, He has thrown in ns mil 
dktr fwnH-r*. r.flmf^lv, the Lan^iing of \ ^ 
wsni f ' ; And Bccket'is Shnuc. l^iiiir tUe 

■ibitai > d<*liv»rf»d by him The***, how* 

•rcr, an i::: ' ■. ,>re- 

folljjirepar /fe- 

cit*. Bat t: irioos 

wmA valtiabii> goU» by Mr. Ailn^n Uay, vGt ot which, on 
a ioMirt formerlv diK-n«sed in our columns, natiielv^ 
•tWRlin-' r' T " V- " v,e read with ioterest by all 

Wll<4 took, |. -^ rll, 

IfLfiirtl t. iition o'^a Proverb — **Thft 

wbdotti of piiiwiy iuiki th'ri vv*t of one** -be c(»rrect-, and 
If L^rd boeon tie juftified in declaring, that ** the geniit», 
iriC* and Aptrit of a nalioD are diji>cf>vererl by their 
nfVWbi : " what a book of wit and wi^ciiom, wlmi an 
Qla^tnitiiin (4 tiaUomtl character of the Knghjib, mast 
Hwt ht ^UWU Mr. Uohn has recently issued under the 
Ikla id A iiujuitMmk of Fn>wr6$t 6cc', 1 And, cerlJiiuly, 
mtwtj tun*m$ roKoclioti it is> It certainly ■' ■ ' 
cmaiD, \s It (<n>feiiMS to do. **an entire tI:\ 
af Bay* Ofihrtum of EmgtUk I^mv*rhm:" for n* 

*"'rrpnnt Kay*B work ^tirt^ and Mr. Bohn loi aJ- 

1 «iiiit« a» nmch of it as he dectmtly could; yet the 

" * useful oue, snd made itill 

rratmn^ th:it the Iffe t»f airv 


bricks and mortar, or even of the icencii enacted in it, 

but slso of thoM who congregated within its walU. 

and made iia name laiiMitt amooff the people of the 

rarth. Pennant did much tif this for London, Saiutfoix 

for Pari J ; and we cannot bestow higher pr^iie up<»a Tkt 

r' '/ the City of Bubiin by J. 1. Gilbert, of which 

•luine is now l)efore us, than bv Miytng that the 

Seeretarj* of the Irish Archteological and Celtic 

Hi^iHy h«u produced a work which may well be placed 

beside thcMe models of amusing and imtructire tope- 

— r^ ' The volume is replete with most curious matter, 

of njany interesting inquiries^ and dcservea 

•►nage as will tnaure its early completion. It is 

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Books Re^eivcd. — Gihhon* Roman Kmpirt^ unVA Xaiu 
by Miiman and GuiTot^ tdiud 6y Dr. Umith, V. L VI^ 
which carries the work down to the flfty^teoond chapter. 

Voyages and DUcwtritt in the Art'tu' Ife^ons^ bv F. 
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Saving been accustomed to enter in my adcer* 
ia any notices which I liave met with in the 
iT»e of my reading, of the destruction of books 

fire, jiermit ine to forward fjo you the first 
lion of my collection. There is a second 
|iB of notes of the formation or existence of 
itnt libraries^ which I shall be happy after- 
rds to send tus a farther contribution to the 
tory of books and their fortunes. No doubt 
my of these arc already known to your readers, 
t perhaps they have ncjt appeared in a collected 
m. My time doej not permit me to arrange 
im in chronological order. I give my author!- 
I where I tind them record ed» You have cor- 
pondents who will, no doubt, make additions to 
i list, which may be considered supplementary 
the notices of books burnt by the hangman, 
icb have already appeared in your pages, 
[t IS pretended, that about 'the year of the 
rid 3700, the Chinese Emperor Che-hwang*te 
iered all books to be burnt ; and that after this 
jnt, in the metal vases were leR the only monu- 
inta of the ancient characters. (Aitiatic Jmrnaly 
Uii. p. 259.) 

Jehoiakim burnt the prophecies of Jeremiafa, 
er cutting them with a knife. (Jer. xx:tvi. 
. &c.) 

In Acts lix. 19. it is recorded that those at 
rhesus "who used curious arts, brought their 
oks together and burnt them before all men." 
Socrates, the hj^itorinn, relates (book i. 6.), ihAt 
natantine the iireat ordered, that *' if any 
itjng of Arius" was found, it should be forUi- 
bk committed to the flames, to destroy not only 
I heresy, but every menional of it. Any one 
10, after this, lecreted any of Arius's books, did 
on pain of death. To the same effect writes 
«omen, i. 20. 

AAer this, heretical booka were commonly or- 
red to be removed in the ^arne way. This will 
[H>uj^t for the fact, that so few of the writings of 
ptited heretics now remain. 
The destruction of th^' famous library of Alex- 
dria in a,d. 642 by Omar, la too well known to 
ed description. 

The Council of Constance in 1414 condemned 
e writings of Wiclif to tlio dames, and added 
e coudenmatlon of the authors bont^s. The 
me Council burnt Uus, the author of the heretical 
Luther copied the example of his teachers, and 

1520 burnt publicly the Popo*s bull, the de- 
etals, canon law, &c., at Wittemberg. But we 
Pit remember that Luther^a writingi had ' 

already burnt at Meutx, Louvain, and other 

Manv books have been barnt prtTately as well 
a? publicly in consequence of the decision of the 
Council of Trent concerning heretical writings. 

The burning of two-thirds of the Sibylline 
books by Auialthea, in the reign of Tarquin the 
Proud, is well known. {Comp, A. Gell. i. 19., and 
Plin, Nat Hiat. x\'n. 13. 27.) The library of 
Ptsistratus escaped burning at the destructian of 
Athens by Xerxes, who removed the books to 
Persia. (A. Gell vi. 17.) 

The Alexandrian library was in part burnt at 
the sies^e of that city, but not intentionally. ( A» 
Gell vl 17.) 

In 43*5, nn Armenian council ordered the writ* 
ings of NesiorluB to be publicly burnt. 

In 680, at a peneral council at Constantinople, 
the writings of Jionorius, Bishop of Rome, and of 
others, were condemned as heretical and burnt. 

In H68, a Roman council issued a condemnation 
of Phot i us. and adjudged to the ilames his book 
against PopG Nicholas. 

In 869, at Constantinople, the writings of Pho- 
tius and of his defender§ were ordered to be burnt 
before the synod. 

In 904» :tt Ravenna, the acts of the council, 
which condcnjned Formosus the Pope at Rome, 
were rescinded and burnt. 

In 1209, the second Council of Paris prohibited 
and burnt the writings of Aristotle and of others. 

In 1410, a convocation at Oxford condemned 
and burnt the writings of John Wiclif. They 
were iignin burnt in 1412, at Rome. 

In the deatructicm of ilerculaueum in jl.d, 79, 
many books were burnt ; many others yet remain 
more or less injured by fire. 150 volumes were 
discovered in 1754, 

It is said that books, to the number of 200,000, 
were burned in a.u. 476 at Constantinople by 
order of Leo I., Biijhop of Rome. 

Many of the books of Galen are known to have 
been burnt in his own house at Rome. One ac- 
count says he wrote no fewer thnn 300 volumes, 
the greater part of which were burnt in the 
Temple of Peace, where they had*been deposited. 

There was a great destruction of books at the 
sackinfT of Rome by Genseric the Goth. The 
same is recorded of the overthrow at Athens. 
And of the destruction of Jerusalem by the 
Romans under Tttus. 

Auguiitin says : 

" Ezra, the priest of God, restored ih« law which had 
been burnt by the Cliiddewis in the archived of the 
tetnple." — O/j/j,, \**t ill. part ii App. 

Honorius III, in a.d, 1216, condemned the 
writings of John Scotus Eri|j;ena to be burnt. 

In the Mh century, Marciau, the Roman em- 
peror, issued an edict in which he condemned 
the £ames the writioM c^ £tLtYQh&ik. 


itn- A 

to ^H 




Justinian, bj a constitution made at the time of 
the fiilh general council of Constantinople, or- 
dained that the writings of heretics should be 
burnt. Especial reference is made to Anthimus, 
Seyerus of Antioch, Zoaras, &c. 

Justinian, by another edict against Sevems, 
forbad " that the sayings or writmgs of Severus 
should remain with any Christian man ;** and 
ordered that ** thej should be burnt with fire by 
their possessors. Whoever disobeyed was to have 
his hands cut oE** 

In 1120, a council at Suessa condemned a book 
by Abailard, and compelled him to put it into the 
fire with his own hands. 

By will, Virgil required his own poems to be 
burnt; but Augustus prevented it from being 
effected. (Pliny, Nat. Hut vii. 30.) 

The first Roman libraries were burnt when the 
city was set on fire by Nero. TSueton., iVero, jrc.) 

The library adjoining the Temple of Peace at 
Rome was burnt under Commodus. Compare 
Herodian^ i. 44. B. H. Cowpeb. 

{To he continued.) 


Every one acquainted with Scott's Border 
Mvistrelsy is aware that ** Christie's Will " is the 
name of a famous border reiver of the seventeenth 
century : 

** Traqiiair has ridden up Chapelhope, 

And sae has he down by tno Gray Marc's Toil ; 
He never fitinted the li^ht gallop, 
Until he «peer*d for Christif'^ Will. 

** Now Christic*8 Will peepM frao the tower, 
And nut at the shot-hole kvekcd he ; 
* And ever unlucky,' quo' he, * is the hour, 
That the warden coine.i to 8]>eer for nic !* 

«* « Good Christie's Will, now, have na fear I 
Nae harm, f^ood Will, Hhall hap to thee ; 
I daved thy life at the Jeddart air. 
At the Jeddart air frae the justice tree. 

" • Bethink how ye fiworc, by the salt and the bread, 
Uy the lightning, the wind, and the rain. 
That if ever of Christie's Will I had need, 
He would pay me my service again.' 

** * Gramcrcy, my lonl,' quo' Christie's Will, 
• ( jramercy, my lonl, for your grace to me I 
Wht'H I turn my cheek, ami claw \uy ne«k, 
I think of Traqimir, and the Jeddart tree.' 

"Anil ho has open'd the fair tower yett, 
To Traquair and a' his compani'c ; 
Thi* <>pinle o' the deor on the boanl he has set. 
The fattest that ran on the Ilutton Lee. 
*• * Now, wherefor sit ye sad, my lonl ? 
And wherefor sit ye mourn'fullie? 
And why eat ye not of the venison I shot 
At the dead of night on Ilutton Lee? ' 
" < wed may I stint of feast and sport. 
And in m3' mird be vcxetl and sair! 
A vote of the canker'd Session Court, 
Of Und and living will make me bare. 

<* * Bat if auld Darie to heaven were fiown» 
Or if auld Dnrie to hell were gane. 
Or ... if he could be but ten dajs stonii. 
My bonnie braid lands woald still be my ain.* 

** ' O mony a time, my lord*' he said, 

* I'vestoun the horse frae the sleeping lonn; 
But for you I'll steal a beast as braid. 
For I'll steal Lord Dtirie frae Edlnbnrigh town! 

As the ballad goes on to relate, and as Sir Wallff 
Scott's notes explain, Christie's Will was ns gooi 
as his word. He kidnapped the ** auld lurduH* 
near the sands of Leith, and enveloping him in i 
cloak, carried him to the Tower of Grahimu^ ■ 
Annandale, where he was detained in close eoi- 
finement until the lawsuit in which Traquair ws 
concerned had been decided in his favour. Ltri 
Durie, it was understood, would have voted fl 
favour of the opposite party. Various dr 
daring deeds are recorded by the freeboM 
which well entitle him to distinction in fiortB 

But who was Christie's Will? Sir WihB 
states, on the authority of a somewhat ambigsM 
tradition, that his real name was Armstrong, ai 
that he was the son or grandson of Criftopir, 
son of *' the famous John Armstrong of Gilknocka^ 
executed by James V. ; " hence colled Christie'i 
AVill by wav of distinction. 

The '^Jofmiiie Armstrong** alluded to was ex* 
ccuted, it is believed, in 1529. His son Chriftd* 
pher appears to have been an infant at the time: 
" And Go<l be with thee, Kintty, my m>n. 
Where thou sits on thy nurse'a knee." 

If this was the Christopher, as Sir Walter sop 
noses, who grants a bond of man-rent to Lorf 
Maxwell in 1557, he would then be about twentr^ 
nine years of age, and could not well have h«i 
the father of Christie*s Will, who kidnapped Lorf 
Durie ; which circumstance must have occnml 
nearly eiirhty years afterwards. Alexander Gib- 
son, Lord l)urio, the well-known ccillector of 
Durie's Decisions^ was promoted to the benek 
10th July, 1621, and died in July, 1646.» Ask 
is described as *' AuM Durie " \\\ the ballad, tk 
probability is that his abduction took place to- 
wards the close of his life, about 1640. At iD 
events Christie's Will, who is represented H 
having performed certain dexterous feats during 
the troubles of Charles I., must have been in tbc 
prime of life at the time, and was more likely, if 
an Armstrong at all, to have been the granwi 
than the son of Kirsty ; hence, unless Christopher 
had continued as a family name for two or tnrec 
jrenerations, the designation of Christie's Will b 

AVe have been led into these remarks by the 
fact, not generally known, perhaps, that Cryiitii- 

* Another authority mentions his death as occ ani B g 
10th June, 1644. 

rEB. 3. 1855.] 



wol! wAfl, ftnd siiM may be, for &ught we knaw, n 
•urnome in thia country, ThU appears from the 
foJlowing extrnct : 

•* Tcit. Chryistiswoll — The testament, testainenlar, 
&c., of vmqle Johne Chryiati*woll, xoogcr, luie of tho 
poTtioncri^ of LundergtouUf ffniLbfullie maid, &g„ the 
xiiij day of Novjjmber, l*;o6zeiri«. Qubairiu he noniiimt 
and comtitoit Tliotniia ClmialbwolK in Bmc, bia brother, 
and Jonet Syin^iwuc, .^pou$ to tbe defunct, his exrs , &c. 
, . , Thb teaUtnent was moid be th« mouth of tJie 
deid, da}% monetb, zeir und pbce, foir»aid. Befoir Ihir 
witnesses — Mr. Thomii4i Zouger, minister utlnn^rkip^; 
Thomas Sympaone in Bnie j Jame» Taiheour, aue of the 
portJoticriB of Lunderstoun, and Jame^ Hyndman, in 
OocbnmJr. . . . Confirnjcd at Glas^o\ir, the penult 
d«y of ^lay, 1608 zeiris.** 

It fiirtlier nppeara that Chrylstiswo!), or Crystis- 
woll, was the name of a place as well as of persons : 
Hobert Stewart, of Cr(/itiswoU, is a witness lo the 
teatatuent of ^' Robert Birsbanc of Bteiboptoun, 
wibbin the parochiii of Erskyne," dated i6th Ja- 
ttuary, 1610, 

In Scotland, " Chris tie*a WilV* ^i^id " Cryistis- 
WoUi" as pronQUnced by the peasantry, are pre- 
diiely similar ; hence the possibility that tlie one Is 
merely a misnomer of the other, and that tbe 
freebooter of the ballad was not an Arnwtrong at 
all, but a genuine descendant of the Cryistiawolla I 



It ha^ sometimes been maintalnetl, that erery' 
thing material has its symbolical st;rniQcation< 
Have any of your readers, wIjo incline to this 
opinion, ever observed how remarkably this theory 
ia supported by the following facts in regard to 
colour ? 

If twenty persons were asked which they con- 
ildcred the most beautiful of the three primary 
colours — blue, red, or yellow ? probably fifteen I 


out of the twenty would reply '* blue" — heaven's 
own hue. Yet ask those Itfteen to name the two 
colours wbicb they consider would form the most 
kormotiirms combination, probably not one of them 
would mention blue as forming part of this fa- 
vourite mixture. 

It is a law of colouringj that no two primary 
OOlours will blend — the eftect would be harsh, the 
contrast too violent ; but a primary colour must 
always be united with a compound, and in that 
eompoimd the primary must bear a part. Tbus, 
red and purple are a good mixture, because red 
iM an in^edient of purple. Green and gold are a 
good mixture, because yellow is an ingredient of 
green. Upon the same principle, blue and green 
ought to be an agreeable combination, because 
blue is an in^cdient of green ; yet blue and ereen 
are universally coruidered a bad mixture. Thus 
I wejsee that blue will not harmonise either with 
led, jellowt or green. It stands alone, exquisitely 

beautiful, but almost incompatible with other 
colours. Nevertheless, by mixin* it with red, we 
produce purple — a colour which harmomses more 
universally than any other, whether prlmairy or 
compound. Thus purple and red, purple and 
gold, purjjlo and green — nay, even purple and 
blue itself — are all manifestly good mixtures. But{ 
though purple is so harmonious, and is in itself 
beautiful, yet it has this peculiarity, viz, it I 
ail its charms when seen by an artlticial light. 

Surely none can be so dull of imagination, as 
not to see the obvious spiritual meaning of all this, 
Blue^ — ^the hue of heaven — is too bright and pure 
to blend with earthly hues. How, then, can we 
bring heavenly things to harmonise with thinga 
earthly? Ilns it not been by the shedding of blood F 
Is it not the red stream of our Saviour's blood| 
which has brought down Heaven to earth ? Is it 
not tbnt crimson stream which has restored har» 
mony betirecn man uiid bis Maker, between earth 
and Heaven Y And as purple — an apt emblem 
of the Gospel — is the only colour which is suited 
to all other colours, so the Gospel is the only 
scheme of religion which is suited lo the condition 
of all men. And ria purple, so beaufiful when 
seen by the light of Ilcivven, looks dead and mean 
b/ an at-tificial li;iht, so the Christian religion, 
when contemplated by a heaven-illuminated mind, 
is seen to be the sublimest of ideas ; but, seen by 
tbe dim taper of human reason, it looks tnean 
and despicable. 

If there be any truth in these consideratianf, 
how much might colouring, in every branch of 
the art, be improved and ennobled by a due re- 
gard to its eyinbolieul meaning! — a meaning 
which seems to have been graciously implanted in 
m&tter, in order that it may act as an antidote to 
itself, and raise the mind from an undue attach- 
ment to material thinps to the contemplation of 
things spiritual. Surely it is presumptuous to 
condemn Mr. Uuskin as romantic and fanciful, 
because he considers that to be the most perfect 
system of colouring in which red, blue^ and pur- 
ple (the colours revealed to Mo^ea on Mount 
Sinai) prediiminate. It may be objected that 
blue harmonises with brown and grey ; but it 
should be remembered, that these are neutral 
tints, and, as far ns the present argument is con- 
cerned^ must be placed in the same category with 
black and white. £. H. 



It is not without reason that readers are puzzled 
when finding such contradictory statements iii the 
works of well-known authors, as are to be met 
with in the following passages : 

1, "The lake AsphaUilet it railly great in dream- 
ference, as if it were a sea. It ii of'aa ill taste, aad it 



[Na S7S. 

piMnucioiis to the Adjoining country bv its BtroDp; tmell; 
the wind Kuses no waves there, nor will it maintain either 
fish or snch birds aa use the water."* — Tacitus, lib. v. 

2. ** This lake Asphaltydes is by some also called ^lare 
Mortuum, for by reason of the saltnes, and thickncs of it, 
nothing can live in it; neyther will it mix with the 
waters of Jordan, though the river run through the very 
midst of the lake. Xo creature can iK>ssibly sink in it, 
though it were a horse, or uxe, and their legs were tyd 
together ; nay, the very burds that sometimes would nv 
over it, arc bv the novsome smell of it suffocated, and fiill 
dead into it.*' • — Teonge's Diary, p. 120. 

3. "The river Jordan running a great wav ftirther 
with many windings, as it were to delay his ill destiny, 
gliding through the plains of Jericho not far below where 
that city sto<»l, is at length devoured by that accursed 
lake A6*ph;iltydes, so naraeil of the bitumen which it 
vomitcth; called also the Dead Sea — perhaps in that it 
uourisheth no living creature, or for its heavy waters, 
hardlv to be moved by the wind."* — Sandi/M, lib. iii. 
p. no, IGOO. 

4. ** We found the hills, which are of white stone, 
higher the nearer we approached the Dead Sea. The air 
has been always thought to be bad ; and the Arabs and 
people who go 'near its baukis always bind their handker- 
chiefs before their months, and draw their breath through 
their nostrils, throuj^h fear of its ivrnicious elfccts." * — 
Pocfick, vol. ii. pp. 37, 38., 1733. 1710. 

5. "Evctything about it was in the highest ilejjree 
grand and awful. Its desolate, though majestic feature^ 
are well suited to the talcs told about it."* — Clarke's 
llgit to the Uolif Land, 1801. 

G. •* I wont on, and came near to those waters of death ; 
they stretolieil tlecply into the southern desert, and before 
me,* and all an^und as far away as the eye eould follow, 
blank \\\\U ]iiloil high over hill*, pale, yellow, and naked, 
wallt-d up ill Ih-r torn!) forever — the tK*ad and damned 
Gomorrah. There was no fly that huninuMl jn the for- 
bidden air — but instead, a deep stillnes.-*. No grass grew 
from the earth, no weecl pei^red through the void saml ; 
but in mockery of all life, there were trues bornu down by 
Jordan in some ancient Aood, and these, grotesquely 
planted npon the forlorn shore, spread out their grim 
skeleton arms, all scorched and tharred to blackness bv 
the heats of long silent years." — Eothen, cap. xiii. p. lOt). 

7. ** At length wo reached the shore of the fatal sea, 
and oncampoawithin a few yanls of the water's eilgc. The 
shore was strewn with logs of wood, and withered hranche.-* 
that presented something of a petrified appearance^ and 
lighteil into a lire with great facility. There was no shell, 
or tiv, or any sign of life along the curving sand." — 
Warlmrton's 'Crescent and the. Cntsf, cap. xi. p. 107. 

8. " AI>out six wo entered the great plain at the end of 
the De-id Sea; tor about a quarter of an hour we passed 
a few hushes, but afterwards founil the soil santly and 
pen'-'ftly barren. At dark, we stojiped for the night in a 
ravine at the side of a hill, much against the wi.nhes of 
our gnid«'s; who strongly urged the want of wat»r and 
the drojid ot", as inducements to make us pro- 
ceed. >Ve collected a quantity of wood whieh the Dead 
Sea had thn»wn up at high-wa'ter mark, and endeavoun»d 
to make a lire in order to bake bread, as we h:td Hour. 
71i«» wooil however was so impregnated with salt, that all 
onr etforts to light it were unavailing; and we contented 

* The references thus marked are to be seen in Tconge^s 
2^lii^, Loadoa^ 182i, pj^ 120. 123. 

ourtelTee with drinking the flour and water mixed, which* 
though not verv palatahle, served to appease onr hunger." 
— Irby and Mangles' Travels in JSifmt, yybia, S^rimt 
and the Holy Land, London, 1845, p. 'lU7. 

9. " We arrived all at once at the lake ; I say all at 
once, because I thought we were a considerable distance 
from it. No murmur, no cooling breeze, announced cor 
approach to its margin. The strand, bestrewed with 
stones, was hot; the waters of the lake were motionlefla» 
and absolatcly dead, along the shore, llierc was no 
want of wood,' for the shore was strewed n-ith branches of 
tamarind trees brought bv the Arabs : and such ii the 
force of habit, that our Bethlemites, who had preceded with 
^cat caution over the plain, were not afraid to kindle a 
hrc which might so easily betray us. One of them em- 
ployed a singular expedient to make the Are : striding 
across the pile, ho stoopoil down over the fire till hii 
tunic became inflated with the smoke ; then rising briskly, 
the air, expelled by this species of bellows, blew up a 
brilliant flame. 

** About midnight I heard a noise upou the lake. The 
Bethlemites told me that it proceeded from legions of 
small fish which come and leap about on the shorei Thb 
contradicts the opinion generally adopteil. that the Dead 
iSea produces no living creature." — Chateaubriand's 

' TraceJs to Jerusalem and the Holy iMnd, London, 1835, 

! vol. i. pp. 343, 344. 

I 10. *• Since our return (to America), some of the wat« 
j of the Dead Sea has been subjected to a powerful micro- 
scope, and no animalcule or vestige of animal matter 
could be detected." — Lynch's Unittd States* Exped&tkm 
to the JJeail Sea, 1849, i).'377. 

11. "Almost at the moment of my turning from the 
Jordan to the Dead iSen, notwithstanding the long credited 
accounts that no bird could lly over without dropping 
dead uj^on its surface, 1 .«aw a ilork of gulls floating 
(juietly upon its bosom ; and when I roused them bv a 
stone,' they flew down the lake, skimming ita sur&ei 
until they had carried themselves out of sight-"— 
Stephen*s*/MciVi2(M/s of Travel, cap. xxxii. p. 122. 

1 2. *' The general ap|>earance of this wiMerness of land, 
anil water over whieh an awful aihiin.e reigns, is gloomy 
in the extreme, and calculated to depress tlie spirit of the 
beholder. The soil around (the Dead Sea) being im- 
pregnated with salt, iirodnees no plants; and the air 
itself, which becomes loaded with saline particles from 
evai>oration, cannot be tavourable to vegetation. Uenoe 
the de^idly a»pect which reigns aniuud the lake. During 
the few hours we remained in this neighbourhood, ira 
confers we did not sec any bir«ls ; but it is not true that 
the exhalations of the lake arc so peatiferous .is to kiD 
thase which attempt to ily over it." — Uobiuson*s /'«Ih- 
tine, vol. i. pp. 06, G7, 

13. ** Nothing in this place gave me the least idea of 
the desolation spoken of in the llible. The air is paat% 
and the fields extremelv verdant." — Mariti's Visit to Urn 
Dtad Sen, 17G0, vol. vi'i. p. 372. 

14. *' Hie old stories about the pestiferous qualities of thi 
Deail Sea and its waters, arc mere fables or delusions; 
and actual apjx^arances are the natural and obvious effects 
of the connned and deep situation, the intense heat, and 
the uncommon saltness of the waters. Lying in its deep 
cauldn>u, surrounded by lofty clitfs of naked limestoiis 
rock, exposed for seven* or eight months in the ^-ear t» 
the unclouded beams of a burning sun, n(»thing but ste- 
rility and solitude can be looked lor upon its shores : and 
nothing else is actually found, except in those parts 
where there are fountains or streams of fresh water; ia 
all of which places there is a fertile soil« and abandaat 

Feb. 3. 1855.] 



vegi'talion. Birda a}ao aboond, and tbey are obeenred to 
■ ' over and acroH tho aeA without being, m old storiea 

, injured or killed bv iU exhftLaiioQA.'^ — - Pic^orio/ 

Wf, London, 1843, voL lii. p. 572. 



I Upon tlm Atcrn und de'^olate shore I stood 

lOf Ihftt grim lake, witbin wboM? fotil recess, 

Jordan's sweet watera turn to bitt^mcsi. 


. ■■cdi 

;-«jiL Nur w;ii it ihe Jess, 
i' a tomji^st fierce and rude. 


. 1,*. 

^Aml J. 

Jki itiLjDg uiud migbtiJy 
-, with diamn.] roar, 
■ i .. ..x.c dound, they fell upon tbe ihore.* 

** From Bethany w« struck into a path* a, little to tlio 
■oath of the Jericho roatl, im«l leadini; directly to tha 
head of the lake. This was, if possibi*?, even more droaary 
than the other; on all ?idr> ro^e, peak above peak, blasted 
and deaoldte moniM like the crater of an extinct 

irolcaiio. And as i into the silent pMn of the 

Dead Sea, the onU -.^^.-^^ .jt:aiur» in sight was a long 
tlliii enjike, like a whipcord; that, curling it^fJf away 
smoT];^ the atoneSi secured quite la chnracier with the 

t there was nothing gloomy in the colouf of tho 
.■If: on the eontrary, it wns a deep ami b«^ntiftil 
le; and if thoee tiake<d rocks ort^nnd were but covered 
^ itli foUaj^e^ and those harrco wnds with vt^rdure> it 
would indeefl be a lovely and eurlianlinfc scene. And 
such it was ouce> — * eveni^ the csir'leii of the Lard« before 
the Lord destroyed Sodom and Ciomarridi/ 

** But as I drew nearer to the water's etlge^ tts charaeter 
ifiemed to chaoge^ and I percetTPd liow rightly it has 
roedred its nanie. Like tVh > rho de«d 

man*s Cum^ no breath of life <l d brig^ht- 

nesa of its surfai^e. The gcui . ..„ ^, „ . c 1 over it 
unheeded: there it lay, motionless and dumb — i^ith it^ 
blue eve tumi^d up to tie nalted suUfin a fixed and fcHajwv 
itare. — Keno»floa*8 Pipe o/ Mmote, London, 1851, 
pp. 102. 108, loSf. 

16- " I hare no bri|[,'ht ircollectiona of pleaaant scenes, 
or happy hours ex[ji rit-nccd during my toor. Parching 
hBMt and intoU-rubie tliirst^ tht: dusty wildemeMS, stum* 
blin^ ;iud Cided ho»-sea, the vain shelter of tents ^ the by 
no means vain sting^B of fleaa, flie^, and their coadjuiors 
and uceomplioe-i ; the %hts with mnleteem, and the im- 
ptMjtions of div^T^ hirelings | make up the sum of my 
recoHections, to which I may add a fever 1 caurrht bath- 
in f* in the Jordaa, and which haa cluing: to roe until, my 
saf«; arrival home — a favour fi«ldoin anx^orded to other 
jSttropeans sir -'i "iv 'uated, as they are almo»t invari- 
*y, and in relieved from their torments by 

ith," — N' Veart ta Sjfria and FaUUinif 

ondon, 1851^ voL i. p. US. 

17, ** I mu<tf hprf aflwrt most positively, that the al- 
^ ip ' r " M rrses wmding throii^h the watCTs 

rl ' -eqneiee of the density of those 

V ike tbena lose their balance, con- 

I a wild A«ble,re.!<ting on no foundatiioa ; and whiiib, 
oaafiy other fallacies, has been repeated at pleasure, 
:« I 'L,Teistve and increasing currency In the 

•ling tr&valleia. 

are eAcaioped once more for the laal 
ron tbo ahor^ of this aea, wliich haa become so dear 

to us; now we can estimate at their correct value the 
i^tntastic fables so long invented to represent it a» a ula^ 
of m addiction and de4itb. 1 must confess, however^ that 
on this particular occaisioo th4 attractions of tha tidgh- 

tiontbood are t:-* - " ^=*' ' .. :.. ^,, ^j,^ awarma 

of musqnitoes ''■ Kot cotit«ai 

with assaulting Mrcexpoeedto 

their sting, the>« pt:.fM:Vitn»g' ijucnijieii contrive to get 
within oar clothfnj:, and stab us even through cloth, 
linen and flannel — with venom enough to drive us out of 
our senses." — De SaulcyV Jvumg^ round the Dtttd 8ea^ 
London, 1854, vol. ii, pp' a3. 3U. 

18. *«The Dead Sea was anciently called 'Sea of the 
Plain/ * Salt Sea,* * East Sea ; * and by Jo^^htis, and the 
Greek and Rotnaa Mriters, ' Lacua Asphaltites ; ' that ia» 
bitumenoua Inker on account of the bitumeu found iu iU 

•* The water of the Dead Sea contains one-fourth of Its 
weight in a hundred of saline mcrrelif ntA, in a state of 
pOFiect desiccation. It ia also i' I with othisr 

mineral substjuif^ea, especially wi which often 

floats on its enrfaco iu large ma^-^, >< <? .uu^t pnUmbly 
cast up from the bottom by volc^inic action, aud is re- 
cordetl to have been speu nflfor earthquakes in masses 
resembling simall islamla. Considerable quantities of 
wood, and other vegetable matter, are fuund cast on the 
shores by the great baoyuucy of the water, in which it is 
difScttlt to swim \ the feut boing baoyed up to a level 
with the hea*!. Its epycific gravity is to that of distilled 
water, as US 12 to IQOO; and greAtcr, therefore, than that 
of any other water known. 

" .ro.<if'phtt8 relates, that some slaves, thrown in with 
their haud^ tied behind them, by order of Vespasian, all 
floated. Modem travellers have lloatcd in its waters 
without moving, and were able to read a book or ^iiteepf 
and a horse having been driven in on one occasitm, did 
not sink, but floated on hia back, violently throwing his 
legs upwards. 

" There are some hot brackish spriti^ on th« shftres, 
but only two of aweet water, at Ain ^ " ij*i 

peninsula of the ea^itera «hor«. Not n l1 

nor a patch of verdure is to be fouinL . _ n 

the two last-mentjoneii spots, cxct'pt aome cane«k .ind 
reeds near the sa1t*m?ir"b**; »H i« d^f»th-like sterility j 
not a living en unllest bird 

would not find uiini?. i'he 

aeeoery ia thus Mresentiug a 

vivid picture of the grim terrilte abode ot eternal death." 
— Journal of a Dtputntion to tltt Eatt^ London, 1854, 
Part IL pp. 879, 3iJ0. Si^L 

The spitce required for the insertion of the 
uLovc extracts in "N. Sc Q.*' will prevent my taking 
6onie other c|,yc>tatIons from standard works i that 
of Professor Robinson, and hU w^ll- known learned 
coadjutor the Rev. Mr. SiuJth, being ainodig the 
nmnher. De Soulcy, to whose interesting volomes 
n reference has already been given, diflens from 
all preceding travelki:?, as he docs from many 
biblical schofftrs, when stating that the doi>nied 
citie-s of Sodom and Gomorrah may not have been 
d est roved by auy sufblen Irruption of the Dead 
Sea. He states that the two places were distant 
from each €tber seventy-five miles ; and if ever 
gubmerged, the rnin^t on the '^recession of the sea, 
were lefl on dry land,** which he has discovered. 
A critical writer has recently remarked, that 
Mr, De Saii]cy*8 ctaim to this dkcorerj cannot 





be disputed, and to this opinion man j readers will 
readily give their assent. 

Long as this note may be, still it cannot be 
closed before briefly reiierring to three distin- 
guished trayellers, who perished shortly after 
navigating the Dead Sea, and lefc their remains 
not very far from its banks. The first was the 
much-regretted Costigan, whom the writer met at 
Constantmople before starting on his fatal expe- 
dition, and whose " melancholy story is known." 
Lieutenant Molyneaux, of H. M. S. ** Spartan,'* 
in 1847 was the second unfortunate victim. He 
passed three days, ami as many nights, in his boat ; 
and died on returning to his ship of the fever which 
he caught at that time. The notes left by this 
gallant young officer " were read before the Geo- 
graphical Society, and noticed in the Athenaum,** 
One other name remains only to be mentioned, 
that of the lamented Dale ; he breathed his last 
on the hills of Lebanon, and was buried at Bey- 
rout. Second in command of the United States* 
Expedition to the Dead Sea, he died in the ser- 
vice of his country ; and the beautiful tribute paid 
to his memory by Commander Lynch will tell 
how much his loss was regretted. 

William Wijithbop. 



** Mon in the mone, stond and streit ; 

On is l)ot-forke in burthen he bereth. 
Hit is muche wonder that he na doun slyt. 

For doute leste he valle, he shoddrcth'ant shereth: 

When the forst frescth much cliele he byd 
The thomes bcth kene is hattrcn to-tereth ; 

Nis no wytht in the world that wot wen he syt 
Ne, bote hit bue the hegge, whet wcdes he wereth. 

"Whidcr Irowc this mon ha the wev take, 

He hath Bet is o fot is other to foren, 
For non hithte that he hath ne sytht me hym ner shake, 

He is the sloweste mon that ever was yboren. 

Wher lie were othe feld pycchynde stake, 
For hoivc of ys thomes to dutten'is doren. 

He mot myd is twybyl otlicr trous make, 
Other al is dayes werk thcr were yloren. 

•* This ilke mon upon heh whcner ho were, 

Whcr he were y the mone boren aut yfed, 
He leneth on is forke ase a grey frere. 

This crokede ca^'nard sore he is adrcd. 

Hit is mony day go that he was here, 
Ichot of is ernde he nath nout ysped ; 

He hath hewc sumwher a burthen of brere. 
Therefore sum haywnrd hath taken ys wed. 

*« 3ef thy wed vs y take, bring hom the trous. 

Set 'forth tliijTi other fot, stryd over sty ; 
We schule preve the haywart hom to ur lious. 

Ant niaken hym at heyse for the maystry ; 

Dr^nfike to hvm deorly of fol god bous. 
Ant our dame bouse shal sitten hym by, 

When that he is dronke ase a dre3mt mons, 
Thenne we schul borewe the wed ate bayly. 
** This mon hcreth me nout, thah ich to hym cr^'e, 

Ichot the cherl is def, the del hym to-drawe. 

Thah ic ^e^e upon heth nolle nout hye . 
The lostlase ladde can nout o lawe. 
Hupe forth, Hubert, hosede pye 

Ichot thart amarstled in to the mawe ; 
Thah me teone with hym that myn ieh mje^ 

The cherld nul nout adoun er the davdawe.'* 

HarL MS, 2S5fc 

We are here presented with the idea oar n- 
cestors entertained of an imaginary being*, tk 
subject of perhaps one of the most ancient as wd 
as one of the most popular superstitions in 4t 
world. He is represented leaning on a fork,fli 
which he carries a bunch of thorns, because it wa 
for '•*' pycchynde stake " on a Sunday that he i 
reported to have been thus confined. There t» 
not be a doubt that the followini; is the origin d 
the idea, however the moon became conneotoi 
with it. Sec Numbers xt. 32. : 

** And while the children of Israel were in the lrili^ 
ness, they found a man that gathered sticks upoitk 
sabbath day," &c 

To have a care " Lest the chorle may fall 9t 
of the moone** appears from Chaucer*s TroiAufl' 
Cressida to have been a proverbial expressioaa 
his time. In the Midsummer Nights Drtm^ 
Peter Quince, in arranging his dramatis penm 
for the play before the duke, directs that "(■ 
must come in with a bush of thornes and a hf 
tern, and say he comes in to disfigure or to proot 
the person of moonshine,*' which we afterwarii 
find done. " All that I have to say,'* condndei 
the performer of this strange part, ^^is, to tell fK 
that the lantern is the moon, I the man in tk 
moon, this thorn -bush my thorn-bush, and tidi 
dog my dog.*' See Tempest also, Act 11. Sc. 2,: 
** Ste. 1 was the man in the moon, when time wtL 
Cal. I have seen thee in her, and I do adore thee; 
My mistress showed me thee, thy dog, and bush." 
So far the tradition is still preserved 
nurses and schoolboys ; but how the culprit 
to be imprisoned in the moon is still to be ifi- 
counted for. It should seem that he had not 
merely gathered sticks on the sabbath, but titft 
he has stolen what he had gathered, as appeiif 
from the following lines in Chaucer's Testamt^ 
of Creseide,. where the poet, describing the moosr 
informs us that she had 
" On her brest a chorle painted painted ful even, 
liearing a bush of thorns on his Imcke, 
Which for his theft might clime no nor the heren.* 
We are to suppose that he was doomed to per- 
petual confinement in this planet, and preduded 
from every possibility of inhabiting the mansioni 
of the just With the Italians Cain appears t» 
have been the offender, and he is alluded to in a 
very cxtraonlinary manner by Dante in the 20th 
canto of the Inferno, where the moon is described 

I [ * (.)ur correspondent is of course aware that the sooc 
I with some similar remarks on this "imaginary b^D^ 
I have 1>een noticed by Ritson in his Ancient Songt, p. Hm 
I edit. 1792. — Ed.] 

Fra. 3. 1855.] 



s " Catno e le spin^/* One of the 
that poet siiys tliat tVi* nl lades 
]>inion of Cain Joadcd with the 
; but how he procured them we 
not mloriu'jtL The Jews have isome Talraml- 
alory that Jacob is in the muon, and the^' be- 
~^ " hi4 face is visible. The natives of Cejlon, 
a man, have placed a hare in the moon. 
IS Alexandrinus quotes Serapion for his 
OfHiiion thmt the face in the moon was the soul of 
a mhjh See Platarch's Morals also (p, 559,, 
Holland's transL, foL 1603), where SibjUs is 
in the moon : 

I And the dnmon said it waa the voice of Sibylle, for 
K being^ carried about in the globe and the iace of the 
' moon« did foretell and see what was to come." 

last two Instances maj throw some light on 
obscure passage in Dante. H. S. 

^tttor iiotfiT* 

Old French Mofdhlff Ride*. — In the Calewirier 
SUtoritd attached to La BiUU^ de rimprimene 
dt JTrancaU Esticnne, 1567» there are the foHow- 
mg monthlj rules, each accompanied with a neat 
iliostnitlire woodcut : 

** Jammkr^ Ce moit Mt figure de la mort corporell& 

Emrkr, Eo ce moia on reclost lee hayes. 

Mifr*. En c« moia on seme Torge et autres legames. 

A^ril, Kd ce fnoU on meine lei troapentix aux chanipf. 

J&ur. I»n ce Boia on i*addonno attx esbau. 

Aok Eb m noia oa totid les moutoDs. 

JwdBgt, Ea ca motf on fauche les prez. 

jUmat En ct mois on fait moissons. 

S^rml^, Eo ce mois on vendange. 

Ombre. Hn ee mots laboure les terrea. 

MtmtmAft. En ce mois les champs prcDnent Icor faces 

DtvcB^rc Ea ee moia rhjmer fiUt ranger les gens a la 

volent intention of Francis Stephen^ 
I compiler of this beautiful specimen of 

• mwiy early almanac, is thus expressed in his 

£R&ce'' Av Lectevr:" 

ICotniDc ceiix qni ci:tD'?i<lercnt pen reteriiele proui' 
ei goudcrnetflentJ? de Dieu en cescUoses inferieures, 
dependant d'icelif, attribuans qoaai le totu aax 
CVNides et aax Mtoillesi Donl le plus souuetit 
a dire choses non seidenient cOtre toota piet^ 
w^ mmA auan eslongi^ dc toute yerit^^ ainjj 
U deinOstre a«iea ee qui mocede de leiirs valoee ct 
AMsai jvronosticationa.'* 

G. K 

MuiiUitinn of Chaueer. — At p. 22. of a lecture 
Om Dttmltory and Stjstematic Reading, by the 
Kight Hon- Sir Jfimcs Stephen, K.C.B., one of 
ihe puhiication^i of tbe Young Men*s Christian 
AiioctAtton, i» the following : 

** 1 aaw hie fl^erea ptrfumed at the hand 

' ' ' liiiAiiUe * ■ ' 

In BclTs edition of Chaucer (1782) it i^ — 

'^' I nfkrr hii tii&ves ptir/ited itt the bond 
W'iiii tfrtr, and liiat the finest of the loud,** 

Before quoting, the lecturer »ays : •* I will, how* 
cTer, read it (Chaucer*s language) as it stands, 
I with the change only of an o&^olete word or two,'* 
His change in this instance simply makes the pas- 
sage absurd. Bell's note on ** purfiled " is " from 
the Vvm pourJUer^ which properly signifies, to morkl 
on the «<4'f/* " Gris" is a species of fur, r 

J. it. AvaUKG. 

Thucydidei and Mackintosh, — I was struck the 
other day with a coincidence of thought, ap- 
parently undesigned^ between Sir J. Mackintosh 
and Thucydides, In speaking of the Crusadei, 
the former observes : 

** Tbe warlike spirit of the age was set in motion by 
religion; by glory; by revenge t by impatient valour; 
by a thousand principles, whlek being melitd into on* mau 
were met <A« ku potent because tltey wert origin ally unJiie 
amd dtMCordant.**— HiML of Kngtand, vol. L p. 121. 

C'ompare this with Thucyd. (vi. 18.) : 

"NofAurttn . . . T* rt ^vXitr vol t^ ftinav umt. ri wmtnt 

T. H. T. 

FoAtener for looie Papern. — Every literary 
man know? that loose papers have a power of 
travelling about a table or a room. At the Ame- 
rican store in New Oxford Street are sold, for a 
penny a-piece» little wooden nippers, iicting by a 
spring of brass wire, in a most efficacious manner. 
One of them will hoUl from one sheet to several 
quires of paper so tightly, that it will be tmpos* 
aible to shake the nip{>ers off the paper, and very 
difficult to shake the paper out of the nippers. 

London Directory^ 1855. — In 1954 some con- 
tributor to "K. & Q." may be thankful that your 
pages have embalmed the following means of com- 
paring the then London Post* Office Directory with 
that of 1855 : 

^ A new edition of the Londom Pott-Offke Dirtdory htm 

just made it« appearance. It contains 1 * 5 sheets of super- 
royal, or 2^20 octavo pagc^ The whole of this vast bulk 
of' infonnation la constantly kept* in type,* so that cor- 
rectjoius and additions may readily be made. The pr^went 
edition has been worked from a new fount, — the la^gci^l 
we are told, that Measrs. Be*lcy and Co. ever cast Thert^ 
is a peculiarity in the bind inij' which deserves attention i , 
to facilitate reference, the ililterent parU of the volume aro . 
coloured blue, red, or yellow, on the fore-edge, and the ! 
contents printed upon it. Each volume took a quick hand j 
an hour and a half to sew j but the whole number, 70OO, ' 
weighing when ready for delivery upwards of 30 tons» \ 
were bound in ten days 1 " 

yX« Congress at Rhinocorum ^The Greek 

Church father Epiphanius, tb» ^ 

dieted the reading of the writi « i ^ 

colleague On^vneSi Indicates (in hi^ i unarto Uirrt, 




[No. 275. 

nbus) the time when the fint political oongress ' 
was held since the Creation. It was, he assumes, | 
the three sons of the patriarch Noah, who had met i 
at a congress at Rhinocoruro, for the purpose of 
dividing the world amon^ themselves. Having ' 
come to an understandmg, he continues, the 
treaty was submitted to their father Noah, who ■ 
gave his consent to it in his lost will. That will 
must have been read by the pious Fhilostrius, 
cotemporary of Epiphanius ; for he was so sure of . 
the fact, that in his work I)e Haresibus the dis- 
belief in that division, and its legitimacy, forms ; 
the 118th species of the heresies described in it. 

Dr. Micuelsen. 

Twins. — In an Historical Dictionary of England 
and Wales, printed 1692, I have met with the fol- j 
lowing entry, which may perhaps be interesting to 
the readers of *^ X. & Q.,** as showing that the 
svmpathy of "The Corsican Brothers** may be : 
^scovered nearer home. ' 

** Tremane. — Nicholas and Andrew Tivmane wero twins, j 
bom in Devonshire, alike in all lineaments, and felt like 
pain, though at a dist.inco, and withoat any intcllii^encc - 
given. They c<iuallv desireil to walk, sit, eat and drink 
together ; mid wt-rc both slain together at New Haven in i 
France, 1 5G*2 ; t he one a captain of horse, the other but a ■ 
private soldier." j 

Rev. L. B. 

Whittlehnry Oaks. — As it is possible that the 
zeal of some of tlie photographic correspondents 
of " N. & Q." may be sufliciently fervent to sus- 
tain them through a short winter s excursion for 
the sake of securing representations of magnifi- 
cent objects wliicli will very shortly cease to exist, 
I beg to call their attention to the exceedingly ' 
fine old oaks in Whittlcbury Forest, sonic of ! 
which are of enormous size, and are in the most ! 
picture:*<iue state of partial decay. This forest is 
about to be disafforested, and the trees are at this i 
time marked for destruction, and will shortly be 
cut down, under (I believe) the authority of the 
Crown, previous to the land being allotted to the 
various claimants. It is diiUcult to understand 
why these magnificent wrecks of trees should be 
felled before the land is assigned to its new 
owners, for the value of them as (fire?) wood 
cannot be supposed much, if at all, to exceed the 
cost of cutting them down. ^lany persons would 
willingly pay much more than their real value for 
the sake of securing them on their property ; and 
not a few keen agriculturalists would much rather 
bear the obstruction they might cause than allow 
such splendidly pictures(|ue old trees to be de- 
stroyed. XX. 

Inscriptions on Buildings. — The following in- 
scription in capital letters, in relief, is in front of 
the gallery in the Court House, Aberdeen : 





Coventry, in a letter to Barker (Claims, ^-c., 
p. 298.), says that '' at the sale of AVilkes^s books 
there was a Junius with Wilkes*s notes, brought 
51. 17*. Grf." One would supntwe that this was a 
fact admitting of no doubt ; but Barker follows 
with this comment : " I have examined the sale 
catalogue of Mr. Wilkes*B books, and do not find 
any mention of the Junius." AfVer this one would 
suppose there could be no doubt the other way. 
Now I have a catalogue of the sale of Wilkes's 
books, with prices and names of purchasers, and 
there I find — 

•*Xo. 715. Juniua's Letters, 2 vol. 17P4 [the last figure 
defaced]. 15s. 

"Xo. 710. Jimius's Letters, 2 vol. 1. Lond. 1778, 
5/. Ids. Oti" 

Both editions were bought in the name of Wall, 
or Wales, but from my copy it is dlilicult to make 
out the exact name. 

All is not yet made clear. In ISOO, Chalmers 
published separately his Appendix to the Sinndg' 
mental Apology, intended to X)rove that liugh 
Boyd was Junius. Therein (p. 42.) he writes: 

*' I have now before me "Sit. Wilkes'a edition of Juniat^ 
Letters, with MS. notes which were written with his owa 
hand. The first note is, ^lliis edition is imperfect and is* 
correct. It was printed by Dmien Leaih.* *' 

It is obvious that an edition printed by Dry den 
Loach was not the edition of " 1772," for that, it 
may fairly be assumed, was the genuine Woodftll 
edition ; indeed I know of no otiicr in which the 
two volumes are dated 1772. Then again, how 
did any edition which belonged to Wilkes, and had 
his private MS. notes, come into the possession of 
Chalmers in 1800 ; for Wilkes's books were not sold 
for two years after — Nov. and D«\ 1 802 ? To 
make confusion greater, in Au?. 1853 the books 
of Mr. Roche of Cork were sold by Messrs. Sotheby 
and Wilkinson, and one lot is thus described : 

"614. Junius's Letters, 2 voL old ru-i.i. H. S. Wood- 
fall, 1772. 

•,• This copy contains the nnto-. interlinoAtion^ and 
index references copied from those found in that belongiag 
to John Wilkes, Esq., sold at his sale in ll<02." 

Can any of your intelligent readers say what are 
the facts? Where is the copy which Chalmers 
quoted from in 1800 ? Where the copy which sold 
for 5/. 16s. 6(/. in 1802 ? W. C. J. 


I inclose you two wax impressions of the^two 
sides of a me<1al I possess, in order the better to 
describe it. The medal is of silver, with a very 
handsome head on one side, and on the other side 

rEB. 3. 1855.] 



\ tm 

a dettd tree, with a young living tree in leaf 
springing out of its roots. 1 think the tree is in- 
ten<]ed to be an oak. Over tli« top of tbe dead 
^e is the word **" revirescit ;** and at the bottom, 
" 1750.*' The medal is rather larger than a half- 
crown of 1823 ; indeed, the half-crown will nearly 
go within the outside rim of the medal, which la 
considerably broader than that of the hn if- crown. 

The account I received many years ago of this 
medal is, that it was given by the Pretender to 
Colonel Goring ; who, I believe, died a iield- 
marsbal in the Prussian service, and from him 
onae ir^tu the posaession of a member of my 
ftarilyf in which it has continued ever »ince. 1 
am descended^ through my ^andmother^ from 
William Goringf of Kingston and FrafUey in Staf- 
fordshire, and Colonel Gorinp: was of the same 
family I wi;3 told that very^few of tho6e medals 
irere struck, as they were intended only for the 

timate friends and warm supporters of the Pre- 

nder. As ray grandmother was about ten years 
of age when the medal was struck, I think it pro- 
babu; that the account she gave of it was correet, 
and the more so, as it was always held in par- 
ticular esteem. I have never hmrd of any other 
medal uf this kind« but pKDisibly some of your readers 
may : and I should be obliged to any of them for any 
farther information, either respecting the medal 
itself or Colonel Goring* 

I may add, that the medal is considerably worn, 
as if it had been carried in the pocket ; but not 
so as to obliterate any of its parts. 

Cha$» S. Gbeavks, Q. C. 

[This medal, which was at nick in Italy, is not inicom- 
moa. It represMints l*rince Chailtia; aud the revcrae, the 
young tree springing from tbe withered trunk* alJude^ to 
his hopes of re>estiihlishin^ his family. Impressions exist 
in copper. The hkenc^ of the Prince was an approved 
one, for it appears u)ion tliree other medals uf di Cerent 
gi£e«, bearing date rcepectively 174^, 1750 ; 17o2, b>ept. 'i^. 
To wtiaL dioes tbia latter date ref^?] 



Some time since a friend of mine requested me 
to obtain for him information respecting a gentle- 
man ot' the name of Sir Samuel BagnalK He said 
it was supposed he resided in Ireland, and held 
tome military command there, either at the latter 
part of the reign of Queen Elizabeth, or beginning 
of that of James I, 

To satisfy my friend*s request^ I examined with 
tame care many of the existing historical and 
other documeots rt^latiog to the reign of BHza- 
belb, and ascertained Umt tbe family of fiagnall 
belonged to tiie county of Stafford ; also that ofi€ 
John Bagnall, Esq,, ha^i two sons, Ralph and 
Nicholas. That the eidest ton, Sir Ralph Bag- 
nall^ was described of BarLaston ia thai countj, 

and that he married EUaabetb, ihe second daugh- 
ter of Robert Whitgrave, Esq., of Burtoii, in the 
same coutity, and by whom he had an only son, 
Samnel B agnail. But by several pedigrees r*f 
that family which I consulted, it appears that Sir 
Ralph was never married, and that his son Samuel 
was illegitimate. 

The second son of John was Sir Nicholas Bag- 
nail, who married and had a large family, and r«> 
ceived in the early part of the reign of Elizabeth 
the appointment of ** Marshall of the Army in 
Ireland,** which he retained until his death, and 
which occurred in 1575 at his seat, Kcwry Castle, 
in the county of Armagh. He was succeeded hj 
his ehlest son, Sir Henry Bagnall, who was also 
married and had several children. The tineen, 
upon the death of his father Sir Nicholnr^, ap- 
pointed him to tlie same com m and, which Sir 
Henry held until his death in August, 1598, when, 
during the rebelliun, be was slain in a buttle at 
Blackwater, fought agaiust the celebrated O'Xeill, 
Earl of Tyrone. 

Upon the death of Sir Henry Bagnall, the queen 

gave that command to Sir Richard Bingham ; but 
e dying very suddenly shortly aller wards, the 
queen appoint43d Sir Samuel Ba^nall, tbe cuusiu 
«jf Sir Henry, to that very important oflice. Sir 
Samuel was very much distinguished at that. 
period as a military man. He had accompanied 
the famous Devereux, Earl of Essex, in the ex- 
pedition against Cadiz in 1596, and at the Udting 
of that city by assault, he received eight woundsi 
and was knighted on that occasion by the Earl of 
Essex, under the atithority granted specially to 
bim by Queen Elizabeth. So soon as Sir Samuel 
receiveil the appointment, he immediately put 
himself at tbe head of 2000 infantry and 300 ca- 
valry, and crossed over the channel into Ireland. 

The latest account I have asyet been able to, 
find of him is, that he still held the same command 
in 1602 ; but whether he died or resigned about 
that time, 1 cannot ascertain. Sir Samuel Bag- 
nall married, and left issue several daughters^ but 
whether be had any »ons I do not know. 

As the correspondents of *' N. & Q." are bo 
numerous and so well read, I have thought it very 
probable that some of them may be able to Air- 
nibh me with the additionjd information I am In 
search of. My Queries are : 

L The name of the wife of Sir Samuel Bag- 
nall ? 

*i. Where his residence was, and when and 
where he died ? 

3. The names of his sons (if any F) and the 
names of his daughters, and whether marrfcd or 

not f CUA«T11AM. 





[Na 275. 

Minav dtterCrsr. 

Pope and " The Dunciad'' — Do any of your 
correspondents know of an edition of The bun- 
ciad (alone) in Tinio. or small 8vo., of the date of 
1750 ? Such an edition there certainly was. If 
any gentleman happens to possess it^ and would 
kindfy send it to tiie publisher's for my inspection, 
it should be safely and thankfully returned in two 
or three days. C. 

GumeifM " Burning of East Dereham." — An 
Account of the lamentable Burning of East Dere- 
ham^ in the Countj/ of Norfolk, on the lat of July, 

1581, by Arthur Gumey, in verse, black letter, I 

1582, London. Mentioned by Blometield, who 
refers to Anecdotes of Topography, p. 371. 

Where can I meet with a copy of this scarce ' 
poem P I could not find it at the British Museum. | 

G. A. C. j 

Neilson Family. — What branch of the family 
of Neilson bears the 'arms of the Neilson of Cor- 
sack ; and what are the arms, crest, and motto, if 
any ? The same information respectin<r the family 
of Neilson of Grays; Neilson of CraigcafEc; 
Neilson of Maxwood ; Neilson of Grangen ; Neil- 
son of Galloway or Galway. In Naphtali, p. 323., 
the name of John Neilson of Corsack is mentioned, 
the said J. N. having died at Edinburgh, Dec. 14, 
1666. The name of Neilson, jun. (I suppose the 
son), appears in the list of fugitives. May 5, 1684. 
The land which appertained to this family was 
confiscated, it is saia. Can you give anjr reliable 
information on the subject ? To whom is it sup- 
posed to have belonged ? 

The name William Neilson appears in the list 
of provosts of Edinburgh, a. d. 171 7-1 8. Who are 
the descendants of this William Neilson, and what 
were his arms, crest, motto, &c. ? 

In the time of Robert Bruce, one of the family 
was entitled to bear two shields. What were 
they, and to whom descending, with crest ? 

From what heraldic work can this be learned ?^ 

£x Familia. 

P. S. — Would you kindly say whether the 
Neilsons are descendants of the O'Neils, kings of 
a province of Ireland ; or from whom supposed to 
be descended, and how far back they can trace 
their pedigree ? 

Lucifer's Lawsuit. — After having described the 
dispute between Corcyra and Corinth, respecting 
Epidamnus, at the beginning of the Peloponncsian 
war, Niebuhr adds the following remark : 

<* From a legal point of view, much mip:ht indeed have 
been said on both sides to Justify the interference : and if 
the matter had been tried m a court of Justice with all the 
trlcker}' of lawyers, very diflferent decisions might havo 
b€«n come to ; as in a very learne'l lawsuit of Lucifer 
against Christ, for doing injur}' to paganism, which was 

composed in the seventeenth centnry." — Li&et. om, Amt, 
Hittory, vol. 11. p. 89., ed. Schmitz. 

Can any of your correspondents explain this allu- 
sion ? L. 

Husbandman. — What is the original signifi- 
cation of this term? In the present day we 
usually understand by it an agricultural labourer^ 
a cottager, and such like. I have, however, seen 
it put as an addition, in former times, to penou 
whom I am dit^posed to think must have been in 
a somewhat higher position in life than those 
above mentions. In Bum*s History of PariA 
Registers in England, p. 98., is an extract fraa 
the register at Barwell, October 7, 1655, of "Mr. 
Gre^icory Isham, attorney and husbandman ;** aid 
at Ilawsted, p. 129. : 

** William Gawstone and Mary Baldwin, of this puU 
were married 8 Sept [1710]. The said William si 
husbandman, and liable to pay 2«. 6dL as tJhe kii^ 


Talismanic lUiig. — I have a ring in mj posacf* 
sion to which my father attached su{>er8titiofl 
importance, and it bears the following inscription: 

"C9. O. Aa. = M'. T*. R». Talisman •." 
Can any of your readers enlighten me as to the 
meaning of these signs, and inform me if sud 
rings are common ? (j. C. 

11. Mark Lane. 

Booch or Butch Family. — Information is re- 
quested as to the family of Booch or Butch, who 
lived in Carlisle or its neighbourhood. Upwai^ 
of one hundred years ago Elizabeth Hooch (or 
Butch) from Carlisle settled in Dublin. Her 
father was an ensign in the army of William III, 
at the battle of the Boyne. Her husband's fathtf 
was an officer in Jamcs*s army. He either belonged 
to Tyrone, or settled in that county after the 
revolution. Any information will interest 



Dramatic Queries. — Can you give me any in- 
formation regarding the following curious dranUt 
the names of dramatis persona:, &c. ? — The MauMi' 
script, an interlude, hy W illiam Lucas, 1 809. Thil 
drama is published in a volume along with Tk» 
Travels of Humanus in search of the Temple of 
Happiness, an allegory. I would also be obliged 
for any account of the author. Besides the works 
I have mentioned, he has written The Fate of 
BerthOySL poem, 4to., 1800; The Duellist; or Mem 
of Honour, London, 8vo., 1805, — a story calcn* 
lated to show the folly, extravagance, and sin of 

Can any of your readers give me the names of 
the authors of the following dramas, all of which I 
believe are very scarce? — The Ptanterg of A^ 

Feb. 3, 1855.] 



Vineyard; or the Kirk Senstions confmtnded, a 
comedy: Edinburgh, 1771. Maivitia^ a trajjedy: 
printed at Glasgow, 1786. The Dttkc of Eoch- 

hrdy a Tragedy from the Posthumous works of a 

Lady of Quality : x^erfonned at Edinburgh^ 1799, 
Can Ray of your Newcastle correspondents pve 

De any account of T. Houston, author of The 
Term- Day; or the Unjust Steward^ a comedy: 
printed at Newcastle, 1«03 P R. J. 

First Book printed in New England. — At the 
sale of the residue of Mr, Pickerings books at 
Sotheby's Rooiua on the 12th ult, a lot (531) 
was sold, comp rising various editions of the Psalms 
betwixt the years 1630 and 1675; it was pur- 
chased hf Mr. Stevens, the Americnn a^fent, who 
stated that one of the verstous, dated 1646, was 
' the first book printed in New England, Any 
I biblio;Traphical information respecting this volume^ 
j and its claims to priority, will oblige, 
[ C. J. Francis. 

I Islington. 


'* The waodoiUe wung^ |-c. — 

" Tho woodviUe sung, and would not ccdso, 
(Sitting upon the apray) \ 
So loud he wakoiiM Robin Hood» 
In the greenwood where he lay.** 

It IB desired to know whence the above is a 
quotation, and also what bird b intended by the 
"woodville?" E, A, B. 

P.S.A. Quextion, -^ Cati any of your correspon- 
dents state if there be any, and what, legal rights 
with reference to the assuiDption by mdividuals, 
members or fellows of any societies, chartered or 
otherwise, to affix this or that series of letters to 
their names ; or any and what legal remedies for 
wrongful assumption ? I apprehend that there is 
no legal remedy ; and that the assumption at all, 
except where the authority is specially granted 
by charter, is a mere matter of taste or custom. 
How far a bye-law could give such authority, is 
another question. Nemo. 

" William and Margaret."^ — This beautiful 
ballad has been set to music no less beautiful than 
itself. But who is the composer? It opens in 
the key of D minor, but the key changes with every 
verse. It is not to be found in the list of Purcell a 
works. I hope Da. Hlmdaolt, or some of your 
musical correspondents, can answer my question. 


Armorial, -^ To what families do the following 
ttrnis belong ? 

1. Azure^ a griffin rampant or. 

2, Arpent,a chevron galea between three bugle- 
horns sable. 

The tinctures may not be quite correctly given 
the plate from which the above are copied. 

P. P— M. 

Arm!\ of lUley, — On the ftoor of the chancel of 
the parish church of Yoxall, co. Stafford, is a stone 
slab, with a Latin inscription, commemorating 
Thomas Swinnerton of High- Wall- Hill, ia the 
pariah of Yoxall» gentleman, second son of Thomas 
Swinnerton of Butterton, co. Stafford, who died 
3rd July, 1713; and above the inscription ts 
carved the arms of Swinnerton, a* cross fleurle, 
over all a bendlet, impaling a chevron between 
three birds, or martlets. 

This Thomas Swinnerton married Sarah, second 
daughter and coheiress of Thomas Ilsley, of Hf^h- 
Walt-Hill ; and the adjoining stone records her 
death on Tith August, 1717, and styles her " wife 
and relict of Thomas Swinnerton, Gentleman*" 

What is the blazon of the lady*s arms ? 

Shaw, in his History of Staffordshire^ vol. i, 
p* 101*, describes the birds as ** Cornish choughs." 
The arms of Haley are generally given as, Or, 
two bars gemelles sable, in chief three pellets. 

B. W. B. 

Joyce Family. — Could any of your correspon- 
dents, who have access to a copy of Nichols's 
Leicestershire^ inform me whether, in that work, 
tJiere is any account of the iaraily of Joyce, at 
Blackfordby in the hundred of West Goscote ? 
Also, couid any one give me any particulars con- 
CL»rning William Joyce, mentmned in Pepys's 
Diary^ as to the place of his birth, Sec M» (1) 

^In Nichols's Leicetterifdre, vol. iii. pt. ii. np. 63,1 64., 
ediL 1801, under Blackfordby, appears the following: — 
^" Mr. John Joyce, who owned an estate at BLickfordlty, 
very pleasantly «itoat<Mi on an flinin«uce, well wooded^ 
and excellent land both for tilliig«« sheep, aod duirv, died 
more than twenty years since, leaving four sons, Williamt 
Nictiol*s, John, and Henry. The eldest, William, aa 
attorney, died a tew years after his father ; when the 
estate came to Nicholas, the present possessor, who now 
live* at BiUesdon, and was an apothecary there. John» 
the third son, who wua likewise an apothecary at Coles- 
hill, on the death of William, relinquishing business* came 
to reside at Blackfordhjv and farmed the estate, which be 
rented of his elder hrother Nicholas. This John died very 
lately, and ha$ left a family, among whom is a son, also 
named John. Henrj\ the fourth brother, liTrea unmarried 
at Afthby. In the chapel yard, at the east end of the 
chape!, is au old altar tomb of stone, for William Joyce, 
gent., who died 170(j, aged 51 ; and Sarali his wife, who 
died 17ol, aped 67. There are several bead-itones for 
their descendants, who have long inhabited the house 
opposite.*' This Willinm Joyce does not appear to he the 
same person who is noticed in the Ihary as Pepys*s cousin, 
whose wife's name was Kate, ** a comelv fat woman.*' 
Anthony Joyce kept the Three Stass at ifolbum Conduit, 
aj we team from a token issued by aim, and described by 
Akerman, p. IOj.] 

The Irish Polalines, — Can you tell me where 
to look for a satisfactory account of the Palatines 
in Ireland ? I am aware of ^fe.^V va. ■aiKvSV'^J^^^OTi. 




[No. 275. 

by Ferrar in his HUiory of Umerkk, pp. 409 — 
412., edit 1787. Abhba. 

[The following notice of the poor Palatines ocean 
in the Memoin of Thomas Jktarqmi of Whartom, by Sir 
B. Steele, p. 66. : 

« In this Tear (1709) the poor Palatines came into 
Sngland, and my Lord Wharton, whose wisdom was too 
extensive to be confined to the narrow views of an iffno- 
nnt selfish fiiustion, procured the Privy Council of Irdisnd 
to join with him in an humble address to Her Haiestv, 
that as manj of the poor Palatines as Her Majesty should 
think fit, might be settled in that kingdom ; where they 
should be veiy kindly received, and advantageonsly 

Some farther notices of these poor Palatines will be 
found in The AnnaU of Qtteen Anne, 1709, 8vo. pp. 166— 
168. Consult also Bayer's Politieal State of Great Britain, 
voL L pp. 138. 276—280.] 

Etruscan Bronzes. — At the sole of the collec- 
tion of the late Crofton Croker, last month, were 
several Etruscan bronzes labelled — 

** Dug up in 1829, under the immediate inspection of 
Lucicn Buonaparte, Prince of Canine, on his estate at 
Canino, in lionian^, on the borders of Tuscany, from the 
tonibd of tlie ancient Etruscan kings; discovered to be 
the ruins of Vitulonia, which existed previous to the 
foundation of Rome, and 800 years before the birth of 
Christ. Purchased by Mr. W. TUt, Great Kussell Street, 
Covent Garden." 

CSan any of your readers refer me to an account 
of this discovery ? K. H. B. 


[In Arch<coiogia^ vol. xxiiL pp. 130—276., is a **Catar 
logue and account of certain Vases and other Etruscan 
Antiquities discovered in 1828 and 1829, by the Prince of 
Goniiio, translated and communicated to the Society of 
Antiquaries, by Ix>rd Dudley Stuart, in a letter to, the 
Earl of Aberdeen." In an uppeudix to the article is a 
note by the Prince, containing an account of the origin of 
the excavations, &c. Consult also the Gent. Mag,, vol. c. 
pt i. pp. 162. 352.] 

The ''TeUiamedr ^1a a publication called 
TeUiamed (about 1750) known to any of your 
readers ? D. 


[The following notice of this work occurs in Barbier, 
Diciionnaire dee Ouvraqee Anonymei, s. v. : ** TeUiamed 
on Entretiens d'nn Pliilosophe indien avec nn Mission- 
naire francois, sur la diminution de la mer, mis en ordre 
fur les Meinoires de M. de Maillet, par. A. G. [A. Guer]. 
Amsterdam, THonore', 1748, 2 vols. 8va Nouvello edi- 
tion, aufpncnt^e sur los originaux de I'auteur, avcc une 
▼ie de M. de Maillet [par Tabb^ le Masoier]. Paris, de 
Bure, 1755, 2 vols. l-2mo."] 

«" The Twa Bairm;* a BaUad. — In Mr. Kings- 
ley's lecture on Englinh Literature^ at Queen's 
College, Harley Street, published with other 
lectures in 1849, he asked : 

•* How manypoets are there in England now who could 
havB wxitten *The Twm Bairns,' or *& Patrick Spense? ' * 

WeMUknow *'Sir Flitriek%)ense,** through Pmy*# 

ReUquet; bat where is tbe ballad of **The Tw« 
Bairns** to be found ? G. (2) 

[This ballad is entitled ** The Bonnie Bairns," and will 
belbund in Allan Cunningham's Songg of Scotland, voL IL 
p. 70,, edit 1825 ; it commences — 

*< The lady she walk'd in yon wild wood. 
Beneath the hollxn tree^ 
And she was aware of twa bonnie bairns 
Were running at her knee."] 


(Vol. X., pp. 346. 474. 531.) 

I might, I think, complain of the tone of G. N.*b 
reply ; I shall content myself with proving that he 
is wrong on crery point, of both his Query and 
his " defence** of it. He says he bos never heard 
of the " baker*s dozen.'* I wonder where he has 
lived. I beg leave to inform him, that the 
"baker's dozen** is not a phrase, but a fact of 
daily occurrence iu the trade for the numbet 
fourteen, or more commonly thirteen ; and if he 
will send to any baker's shop for a dozen of rolls, 
he will receive thirteen of a larger size, or fourteen 
of a smaller. I will venture a conjecture at ex* 
plaining whence this custom may have arisen. 
Under the highly penal statutes for the assize of 
bread, bakers were liable to heavy penalties for 
any deficiency in the weight of loaves, and thefe 
weights were spedfied for loaves of every price 
from ISd. down to 2d, ; hut penny loaves, or roUi^ 
were (no doubt from their minute weights) not 
specified in the statute : and therefore the baken^ 
when selling these nondescripts, to be on the nil 
side, threw in a thirteenth of the larger rolls UK 
two of the smaller ones. And though the assise 
has been discontinued, the practice still survires; 
and my housekeeper, only last week, received 
fourteen small rolls for the dozen. Nor is the 
use of the term confined to the technicality of the 
trade; it is frequently used metaphorically to 
express thirteen or fourteen : for instance, in 
Grose's Dictionary of the Vvlgar Tongue, G. N. 
will find : 

- Baker's Dozen, ./burfeen; that number of rolls beiiif 
allowed to purchaMrs' of a dozen.*' 

And it is so ancient, that old Hudson, when he 
discovered the Bay of that name, gave to a cluster 
of thirteen or fourteen islands on the cast shore of 
it the name of the '' Baker*s Dozen,** as may be 
seen in all the charts, and even in the fordgK 
ones, for D*Anville*s great atlas exhibits those 
islands as '* La Douzaine du Boulanger." 

The passage G. N. quotes from Dr. Jamieeon 
is an egregious mistake of both his and the ^ood 
Doctor B. It refers to a matter of an entirely 
difierent .nature, yiz. the superstitious dislike 

Feb. 3. 1855.] 



wbioh muny people have to &it down to table with 
thirteen guests. Dt, Jamieson says, he cannot 
accouTit for so strange a prejudice; but I need 
hardly say, that it luludeSf not to any supposed 
"Devil's dozen/* but to the very contrary ^ — a 
supper where there were a dozen righteous per- 
sona, and ofte only the DeTil'?, Judas Iscariot. C. 


CDWL£Y ON ffiAKSP£^Bl£. 


For the satisfaction of J. 0» H., I copy from an 
old edition of Cowley in my possession, printed by 
Herrinrrman in 1680, the passage to which 1 sup- 
pose he refers. It occurs in the preface to his 
Foemsj in which he complains of a publication of 
his verses without his ooncurrence, full of errors 
and interpolations. He then proceeds : 

" From this whicli baa happened to myself, I began to 
reflect on the fortune of almoat all wnters, luid especially 
poets, wbose works (commonly printed after their daalha) 
wo find staffed oat, either with countarieit pieces, or with 
inch which, thoaeb of their own coin, they would have 
called in theinselvea, for the tuiseDuaa of the alky; 
whether tbiA procetsd from the indiscretion of their friends, 
or by the unworthy fivarieci uf some stationers, who are 
GCntent to dimiimh the value of the author, so they may 
increase the price of the book. This hath been the case 
with Shakspeare, Fletcher, Johu^o, and many others, 
part of whose poems 1 should take the boldness to prone 
aad lop away, if the care of replanting them in print did 
•^ '™ T to me," &c. 

While on the subject of Shakspeare, may I be 
excused for noticing an allusion to one of his cha- 
racters which I have just met with^ written some 
thirty years previous to this preface, and by no 
Itm a person than Cbillingworth ? It is tn his 
firet tuswer to ** Charity Slaintained," and is as 
fellows : 

*^ So that, OS a foolish iellow, who gare a knight tba 
li«> dealring withal leave of him to set hii kmgbth<K>d 
aside, wajs answered by him, that he would not sulTir 
anything to be set juido that belonged unto him,'' &c. 

This seems clearly to refer to the scene between 
Falstair. and the Lord Chief Justice, where the 
attendant says, ^ 

••I pray yoo. Sir, then aet ynur knighthood aside, and 
give me leave to tell you, you lie in yo«r throat,'* Ac 

To which the knight replies, — 

* I give thee leave to tdl me so f 1 lay isde that 
which grows lo me! If thou get'ut any Itave of m«^ 
liang me," &c 

I hope Cowley would not have " pruned and 
lopped away" Uus passage. F. WarrB. 


(Vol. xi., p. 12.) 

I have extracted (literally so) the following page 
from my Memoir of the Campaign of 1708, by 
John Marshall Deane, privately printed in 1846 : 
and I send it to you as an answer to Mr. G. Tat- 
hOR of Heading, who (VoL iL, p. 13.) wtthea to 
know the particnlars of the story q€ Sir Thos. 
Prendergasta dream or vision* 

** Sir Thomas Prendergast was Colooel of the 7k«infy>- 
teeoHd Rtgiment in 1709, when he fell at Malplaquet under 
ven '"♦-'" -'■"'^" -— TT^ stances, as lestitied by the fol- 
low Ll*s Lift ofDr^Johnxm, vd.iiL 

c. VI. , . _ . ' M .. ■ ,. 

** ' Geaetal Ogletliorpe told na that Preader^ast, an officar 
of the Unke of Marlborough's army, had meationed to 
many of his friends, that he should dic' on a particular 
day ; that on that day a battle took place with the French ; 
that after it wa§ over, &nd Prenderga^t itill alivo, his 
brother oflieerfs while they were yet in the field, jestingly 
asked him, * Where was lus prophecy now ? ' Prendergast 
gravely answered, * I shall <Ue notwilhatanding what yon 
aee,' Soon otterwards there came a shot from a French 
battery to which orders for a cessation of arms bad not yat 
reached, and he was killed on (he spot. Colonel Cecil, who 
took pos^esaion of hi§ effects, foond in hia pocket-book the 

following solemn entry ; — [ Here the date J * Dreamt 

or — ' • Sir John Friend meets me. [hete the very 

day on which he was killed waa mentionedr] 

" 'Prendergast had been connected with Sir John Friend, 
who hail been executed for high treason [by William the 
l^ird]. General Oglethorpe laid he waa with Colonel 
Cecil when Pope carae and inquired into ihe truth of this 
story, which made a great noise at the time, and was then 
confirmed by the colonel/ 

" Such iB this remarkable stor}'. Mr. Croker endeavonia 
to throw doubt upon it: ^Colonel Sir Thomas Precdcr* 
gast, of the Twenty -second Foot, was killed at Malplaquet» 
xlug. 31, 1709 J but no trace can be found of any Colonel 
Cecil in the army at that peritHl, CoUniel H'm. CetU, the 
Jacobite, sent to the Tower in 1744, could harfiiy have 
been, in 1709, of the age, rank, and Nation which Ogle- 
thorpe's anecdote seems to imply." 

" But General Oglethorpe does not say that Cecil waa a 
Colonei in 1709: he might only have been a subaltern at 
that time, and a colon el when *poken of in the above con- 
versation. If he was a relative of Sir Thomas Prender- 
gaat, he would probably administer to hiji property and 
take charge of his papers, as he is reported to have done. 
It is at all events clear, that Friend, Prendei^st, and 
Colonel CeeU, were of the same political party, whatever 
then may be the measnrti of our credulity in respect of 
iipparitions of epirita, or premonitions of death, this Mt* 
plaaation, or rather objection, bj- Mr. Croker, has not, in 
my mind, cleared awav the diflicnlties ot the daroci nir- 


• Note by BoawelL— "Here was a blank which may 
be filkd np thna» or imas HM by an tgjparititm,'* 




[No. 275. 

)uld take up too maDv pases of "N. 

However, I will copy the title-pace, and 

^ I find in the volume about Irish bells. 


(Vol. xi., p. 33.) 

Thanks ore due to an Irish correspondent for a 
Note from a bookseller's catalogue (would he had 
given the date), showing the value (five pounds !) 
set upon a book on bells. He will see the work 
enumerated in my first list, Vol. x., p. 240. 

I have before alluded to the same work as one 
full of information on the subject. (Vol. vi., 
p. 610.) ; but to give such an account of it as is 
asked for, would oe to abridge the whole work, 
and would take up too many pages of "N. 


all that 

For a fuller account of the good old bishop (who 
was a very voluminous writer), I would refer 
Ekivri to biographical dictionaries. Should he 
wish to possess the work, I shall be happy to re- 
ceive the value set upon it by John 0\Daly, and 
to devote it to the fund for the restoration of this 
church, in which I am engaged; or if he will 
favour me with a direct communication, dropping 
his oMsumed (I presume) name, I shall be ready to 
lend it to him should he wish to read it ; it is a 
thin 4to. of 166 pages besides an index, with 
plates. The title-page (nicely ornamented) runs 











** In quo multa non minus admirationc, ac scitu difi^na, 

quam lectu jucundo, in I-Icclesi.t Dei repcriri narratur. 

"Juxta diversa (jun^i^Ai 'lU'"^ i<^ pagina quinta viJere 







** Cap. VII. Admiranda tie Campam* eonaecratit. 

''Silentio pnvtcrmittcnda nun censentur admiranda 
ilia, ct scitu quidem digniiuima, qu» de Campani.i con- 
secratis narrantur, pneHurtim voro juramcntum in primiti 
illud in Iltbcrnia, Scotia, ot alibi super Campanas pracstari 
consufftum, ob magnam rerercntiam, quiu ipab* adhibetur 
dictis in locis. Si qui oiiim su}>cr Campanas pcjcrarc, hoc 
est falso, et animo fallondi jurare audcant, plcrumquo 
tacite, ut ita dicam, vel c&>litus puniuntur. SSi qui vcro 
tales convicti ab homine pcjerasde invcniantur, graviter in 
eos animailverti solet, ut colligitur ex eo, quo<l in Topo- 
graphia Hibemio; scriptum reliquit Silvester Giraldos in 
UK verba. 

«* ' lioc etiam non pretercundum puto, quod Campanas 
baiulas, baculosquc Sanctorum in luperiori parte rccurvos, 
auro et argento, vel icre contcxto% sivc contectos, in 
magoa reverentia tain Iliberniie, et SScotiio, qaam Guual- 

lic, vel Uualliie Populus, et Cl«nia habare Milnit ; ita «i 
Sacnunenta (hoc est jununenta), nper hac looge magiib 
quam super Lvongelia, et prsstare veraantur, et pqeraie. 
£z vi enim quadam occulta, et lis quasi divinitna insita. 
necnon et ^andicta (cujus pnecipae SonctS illi appetiUki 
esse videntur) pleruroqae puniantar contemptOTM, ct 
graviter aniroadvertitur in transgressores.' 

" HsBc de juramento super Cuiipanas prsntaii memo- 
ratis in locis consueto, norrat Giraldua." 

From which, methinks, a Scotch or a WeUk 
bookseller might as well claim the author for i 
countryman, as John 0*Daly of Dablin fancies he 
must have been an Irishman ! 

H. T. ExxAcoim. 

Rectorj-, CI yst St George. 


CoUodhnized Gla$s Plates, ice. — As I should be t«r 
sorry to make my old friend"" N. & Q." the medium^ 
anv'personal discussion between Mr. Shadbolt and sf 
self, I will be contented with merely acquitting mradf < 
the various allegations contained in his letter ( Vd. sii 
p. 34.), and leaving the case as it stands to the o^niflDflf 
the public. I am not a little surprised that m v letts « 
the subject of preserving collodion plates shoiild so hm 
disturbed Mr. Siiadbolt, and at the same time I §■ 
rather at a loss to find out what I have done to merit Ui 
statements concerning me. 

In my reply I must divide his statement into twt 

First, he savs I accuse him of plagiarism. Seoondlr, 
he states that 1 have plagiarised on his process. 

Now, as to the llrst point I must repeat what I asid, 
which was nearly as follows : That it was singular Ut. 
Suadbolt and myself should have been experimentiif 
in the same line at nearly the same time, as his procea 
seemed only to differ from mine in the fact that he left i 
slight excess of nitrate on the plate, whereas I kept the 
excess in the syrup. I then stated that I felt Mr. &iAih 
BOLT to be a perfectly independent discoverer, but clainwd 
for myself the priority of publication. Then I gave sa- 
other* method of preiiaring the plate for keeping it ; ad, 
having some delicacy as to even taking that part of hii 
process I said that I adopted his plan of washing tbe 

EUte with a weaker nitrate bath. 1 might add, that ii 
is first publication of his process Mk. Shadolt nenr 
even alluded to mv previous publication, although Vf 
process was publialied on the 17th of June, and his nic 
till the 20th of the following month. Ilo can snreij. 
therefore, have nothing to say on this bead? I do tha 
most distinctly claim being the first to apply the homj 
or grape sugar to the cuUodiun plate. Next, I do daiia 
having also applied the same substances to preserving ths 
plate sensitive, as may be seen in four instantaneoas views 
which will appear in the Kxhibitiou before the end of this 
month, in one of which the plate was kept for twenty-ftmr 
Iiours, and the other three were carried two miles in a 
hot summer sun, and kept five hours. These were showB 
at the Iloyal Institution before tlie publication of my 

In my first publication I said that the stability of tbi 
process was greatly increased by my method. And again, 
m another place, 'that by my method the plates wooU 
keep for four hours at least. 

Tne combination of nitrate of silver with the naps 
sugar I still hold to be quite essential, as without it I m 
that not only are the half-tones not so perfect in ths ds^ 

Feb. 3. 1855.] 


ijtlest bnt ncxt» tliat otherwise, with the utuiOAt care 
mMa, I ciinnot help getting one part of the plate more 
nsitive the otUer* bv tlic syrup wasliing the nitrate 
lore from tJie «ide on wkich it is first poured on* than 
DID that on which it runs off. It ia evident, however, 
fhal after a certain time Mn. Sif\DnoLT*d syrup will be- 
come ^nfficicntly nitrate<3 by what it will wash off from 
the plate, and ihis nitrate will not, as be aay*, all preci- 
piUte by expo«aro to li^ht, bnt a can side rable portion 
will always remain in combination. My object is to pro- 
rent the washing off by having the i^yrup and the wash- 
ing bath each about equally charged with nitrate ; and 
Ihia small excess of nitrate does not injure the solution 
of grape su^ar so luuch a« it wUJ most samples of honey, 
a^ the nncri^statlisable lugar which the latter contoiiia 
generally decomposes and causes the plate to fog. 

Now for the other portion of his statement : that I have 
taken bis proceas, merely interpolating mine for makinjif 

Sapc sugar. In my letter I said that 1 adopleii the plan of 
R. SuA[>BOLTia washing the plate^ whicli was excellent ; 
I und as that makes the easential difference between his 
^^|»rocess and mine, I felt that in so saying I had jjiven him 
^Klll his due. And then I gave a process in which, fur 
^ vnaona before Btated* I used ^rape sugar, not hanoy» and 
I pot nitrate of silver in the syrup j and these ditlerences 
I Ming certainly at least as great as thQ«e between Mie. 
8nAnBOT.r's process and mine, I leave it to the public to 
decide whether he has behaved as justly to me as 1 have 
tQ him. 

I may add abKi, io answer to what he ^ays of the in- 
fitut<»imal nature of my dose of nitrate, that to all ac- 

2 tainted with the chefuistiy of photography it is well 
nown what is the comporlment of iodide of silver in the 
prc^sence of even the smallest excess of nitrate of silver^ 
and of the same eubstonce when nitrate is not prc^iit* 
I feel the utmost confidence that my plan will beihe one 
ultimately adopted for preserving the plates, as by this 
method with tne grape sugar the results roast be much 
more certain and regular than when honey, a stibatauce 
which is of so uncertain a constitution, is e'inployt;d. In 
conclusion, I may add that I am very sorry to have tres- 
passed on your pages for so long a space; but as you 
have given publication to Mil Shaubolt's lelter^ I hope 
you will permit me, with your usuuj kindness, to make 
my response t^a it, and I promise that I will not trouble 
you farther on this matter; for should any reply bo 
made to this letter, having now fully stated my case, and 
being also at present in a foreign country, 1 shall leare it 
to your readerji to decide whether Mr. SnAiutoi.T or mv- 
aelf is in the right, and feel no doubt as in the r«8uk. 

F. Maxwell Lvte. 
Maiaon George, Rue Montp^naier, Pan, 

Jan. 1% l8o5. 
Bromo'iodifk of Sitcer^ — Mr. Keatik* In a letter he 
addressed to you (Vol, xi., p. 51.), endeavour?* to show 
that the statements I made in my former letter in refer- 
cnce to Ibis subject are at variance with those of Mr, 
Lttb, which Is not the case. He says that I prove, or 
think I prove, by my experiment, whith he describes, 
that the so-cilled bromo-iodide of silver (for such, he 
savs, is the precipitate I obtain from Dr. Diamond's 
aolu(ion) is in fact nothing of the kiud, but consists en- 
tirely of iodide of silver; whereas, he says, Mr. Lttk 
first of all proves that the same compound'and iodide of 
silver when dissolved in strong liq> r mm. are each simi* 
Urly acted upon by dilute nilrtc acid, and then forms a 
true &TO«w-iodide ©f silver, but io such combination as to 
exhibit the same kind of milkiness which occurs with 
inire bromide of aftver on the addition of an add, and 
oeQce lesds to theoonelusion that bromide and not iodide 
ivtr If cxhll 

Now I beg to remark, in the fimt place, that the trve 
tromo-iodide of silver which Mr. Lytr forms by adding 
an excess of nitrate of silver to a solution of tVu'bromide 
and iodide of potassium, consisting iL^ I nilxture 

of bromide with iodide of silver, is a t com- 

pound from Mb. BsAi>F/a bromo ioUj . .,.v;r; and, 

secondly, that my ilatement as to the latter being iodide 
of silver, is conftrraed by Ma. Lite, although Mr. Rilade 
is endeavouring to prove the contrary. 

Again, Mr. Reade states that the whole of the silver 
from a solution of the double bromide and double iodide ^_ 
of silver is precipitated by water, which is quite true ; but ^M 
what it has to do with the question tinder discussion I ^^ 
fim at a loss to conceive. The whole of the silver from 
Dr. Diamostd** solution is precipitated by water, but it 
does not necessarily follow that the precipitate consists 
either wholly or partly of bromide or bromo -iodide of 
silver. On tho contrary, the whole of the bromide of 
silver is, as I staled in m^" former letter, decomposed by 
Iho icHJide of potassium, iodide of silver and bromide of 
potassium being formed ; and if Mr. Reai^e will take 
the trouble to test the precipitate for bromine, after hav- 
ing well washed it with water, ho will find that it does 
not contain a trace of that element. 

Farther, Mr» Keade states that paper prepared with 
Dit, Diamond's solution is more sensitive than ordinary 
calotype paper in the proportion of 10 to 1 ; but what 
docsDit. Diamond himself say as to the effect of his so- 
lution of bromide of bjIvct? He savs {Fhotog. Jovmaif 
ToL L p. 132.) it does not increase the general sensitive- 
nessof the paper, although it seems to accelerate its power 
of receiving impressions from the green rays ; a statement 
which, as far as regards the general sensitiveness of the 
paper, Is nuite in accordance with my experience. 

In conclaslon, if Mr, Reape will wash his paper more 
thoroughly after applying the solution, so as to get rid of 
the whole'of the broniido and iodide of potassinm, I am 
conlideot he will not tind it more sensitive than ordinary 
calotype paper. J. Lkaciola^x, 

20. Compton Terrace, Islington. 

Wit^liii to Minat ^tierfftf. 

Death-hed Superstttion (Vol. xi., p. 7.). — At 
extract from your pnper, thus beaded, haying 
been extensively copied, I heg to state tbat the 
whole story is q misrepresentationi no doubt un- 
intentionaL I was the clergyman of Charlcombe 
at the time alluded to, and no death took place in 
the pariah duruig the year 1852 ; but in 1850 the 
clerk came to me to borrow, not the plate, for 
there wng none, but a pewter plate to place it on 
the body of a person already deud, to prevent the 
body swelling. It i» true I used the plate as a 
paten, but it was asked for simply because it was 
pewter ; so that it might be a case of quackery, 
but not of superstition ; and I think it h plain to 
any one that a dying person could hardly bear a 
pewter plate filled with »alt ujxin hh chest, and if 
placed there it would be much more likely to 
hasten death than to alleviate it. 

£DMtT!«D Ward Pbams* 

** Whychcotfe of St JohrCi'' (Vol. iii^ !>- 302. ; 
Vol XI., p* 27.).--^2k^Jllb&P^^P ^^ *^'^ ^^^ 





[Na 97Sb 

intereflting work has often been questioned. I am 
howerer enabled to state, that it was written bj 
the Rer. Erakine Neale, now rector of Wood- 
bridge. This gentleman is still actively engaged 
in literary pursuits. Among the best known of 
his later works are The Experiences of a Craol 
iTheqplain and The Coroner^s Clerk, 

Robert S. Saxmoit. 

RaUroads in England (Vol. z^ p. 365.).— The 
following extracts may perhaps interest your cor- 
respondent W. W., who inquires for notices of 
railroads earlier than 1676 : 

" It appeAn bv the order of the IIostmen*8 Company, 
'at a coorte hoideo the thinlo day of February, anno 
KeginiD £Iizabetbie« &c. 43, annoquc Domini 160*0,* that 
waggons and wag^n-ways had not tlicn been invented ; 
but that the coals were at that time brought down from 
the pits in wains (holding; eight bolls each, all measured 
and marked), to the staiths by the side of the river 
Tvne.** — Brand's Jlistory of Newcaitk'Ujion-Tjfne, vol. ii. 


••1071. Waggon -ways, or railways for the conveyance 
of coals, appear to have been in use on the I'ync at this 
period. In liai ley's View of Durham, p. 35., it is stated 
{on the authority of Mr. Robson, then agent at K ivens- 
worlh) that the earliest mention of coaU delivered by 
waggons occurs in 1671, at Team Staith." — Kichardson's 
Local Historians Tabk Book, vol. i. p. 301. 

And the following seems to confirm the date : 

«• Septeml)or 2. 1674. The hoi«tmen of Newcastle en- 
deavoured to procure an Act of Parliament to regulate 
the great abuM's and exactions upon the collieries for 
their xtatj letins ami st.iith -rooms." — liran>Ps Hintory of 
Nticcnstle, vol. ii. p. 2y7. 

To the cojil-owncrs on the river Tyno, there- 
fore, is due the honour of having commenced the 
system of Railways. The system was not adopted 
on the noighbourmg river, the Wear, until a much 
later period, as appears by tlie fullowing extract 
from llutchinson's History of Durham : 

•* 16U3. Waggon-ways were now first u.«ieil on the river 
li^'ear by Thorn :is Allan, Ksq., of Xcwc.xstle, who amassed 
a large fortune in collieries, and puri*hiu»ed estates, a part 
of which still retains the name of * Allan's Flatts,' near 

RoBEaT S. Sal^ox. 


^Taleutetr (Vol. xi., p. 17.). — Coleridge, a 
great authority in such matters, objected to the 
use of this word. In p. 181. of Table Talk, he 

** I regret to seo that \nle and barbarous vocable talented^ 
stealing out of the net^'spnpers into the leading reviews 
and most rcjipet-talile publication!* of the day. Why not 
tkiUin^edy farthinifKtl, itnpeuccd, &e.. ? The formation of a 
participlu-pasaive from a noun, is a license that nothing 
out a very peculiar felicity can excuse.*' 

Coleridge cTidentij is not aware of its being a 

revived word, for he goes on to 8^ that waA 
slang mostly comes from America, x our oorxe- 
spondent aaduces several words ; he might hm 
added giftsd as anaJogous in formatioii to Udnkit 
and in most constant use. & 

"^Snich up"" (Vol. i., p. 467.; Vol- ii., p. 14.; 
Vol. iv., p. 28.). — Respecting this expression, I 
Quote a passage from Middleton*s Blurts Maitet 
Constable^ Dyce'sedit., 1840, vol.i. p. 284., to shov^ 
as I think, that it is not invariably used as a stage 
direction for ** hiccough/* whatever it maj signBy 
in Twelfth Night : 

** Sim. You smell a sodden shaep*s head : A nt? 
Ay, a rat; and you will not believe one, marry, fob! I 
have been believed of your betters, marry, tnick tf*/** 

I think it likely to mean " shut your shop,* i 
vulgar expression of the present daj, —*' What A 
you know about it ? *' E. H.I 


The Post'mark on the Junius Letters (Vol. vau 
p. 8. ; Vol. X., p. 523.). — For the information flf 
vour correspondents, allow me to say that I hiit 
m my possession several letters of the requirei 
date, and bt^aring the peculiar mark. Theysif 
among the family porrespondence of the late Dr. 
Doddridge. One of his daughters, while on a visit 
to the neighbourhood of London, writes to ha 
mother at Northampton, and posts her letter 
(franke<I) at the suburban office. The nuurfc ii 
invariably a triangular stamp, with the words 
" PENT-POST PAYD," countcrsigncd *'il/cic CW* 
locky These letters are written from the house of 
a Mr. Strcatfieltl ; and though the name of tk 
place is in no case given at the head of the fini 
page with the date (June, 1763), there is intemil 
evidence sulficient to fix the post-office to hife 
been situated in Highgate. CHARXiEs Rbed^ 

Paternoster Uow. 

''Nettle in, dock otd"* (Vol. iii., p. 463.). —In 

addition to the instances already given of the use 
of this expri'ssion, I give you one from iVIiddletoa's 
Mtfre Dissemblers besides Women, Dyce's edit, 
vol. iii. p. 611. : 

«* Is this my in dock, out nettle ? *• 

And the editor, in his note, refers to Sir Thomsi 
More 8 Works, 1557, fol. 809. E. H. B. 


Poems of Ossian (Vol. x., pp. 224. 489.).— The 
John o" Groat Journal says : 

** \Vc lately sent a deputation to wait on aa a^ 
widow of fourscore yeani, resident in Sutlierland, who cM 
repeat not much less than a thou.oand lines of poetiyi 
which she repurds aa Oswianic, or belonf^iiig to a wty 
remote ape I I'pwards of eight hundred lines, rather imr 
perfectly copied, we have ^ot and can produce thoa . . • 
In the language of our firianda who waitad upon hfsr» M^ 

Feb. 3. 1855.] 



I th at tl 

pa^ed two long summer days in cop^-ing her Ut*; *Sbe 
never beard these pu^nis imputed to aay hut OMiAa and 
other b.irds of tha Finnlian age.* She ll^nnly believed 
UiBt the very words oF these poctns were tboso of the 
"" dlioua. She never heard of the Macpbernon coDtfO- 
\ m>r that ever the poetna of Osdiau were in print'* 

In adtlition to this, I may add, that when I 
attended University and King 5 College, Aberdeen, 
th^M'*? were several students from Nova Seotia- 
We ull lodged in the Bame house. Our conversa- 
tion one evening happened to turn on the Poems 
of OssiJin. I asked if they were known in Nova 
Scot in ? I was told, that many of the people who 
had emigrated from the Highlands could repeat 
many lines of hi^ poeois ; although they coatd 
DcithtT rend nor write, and that tUey had never 
heard of MucphersoiL W, U. 

Books chained in Churches (YoL viiL, pp* 93. 
306, 273. 328. ; Vol. x., pp. 174. 3iJ3.). — As i-e- 
Ibrence has several times been made in your pages 
to this ancient mistom* perhajjs you may not deem 
the fallowing unworthy of your notice. The 
usa^e, it is evident, was owing to a scsirrity of 
books, and may be traced bacl to distant ages, 
It was common in St. Bernard's time, for lie says, 
in Serm. IX. lie Diners. No. 1. : 

" Et Cflt vclttt comiTiQniB qnidam liber, et catena nlli- 
^tua, ut aa^l«t, senaabilia tnandui ifte» ut in eo sapiea- 
tiam Dei legat, quicnmque voluerit." 

The saint does not here mention churches as con- 
nected with this custom, for he spoke of what was 
known to ulL But his meaning is more clearly 
set forth by St> Thomas ti Villanova, who was 
boi^ in J 480^ in his "Concio primn" in Fesia Sti 
Augustini, No, 3, He says, — 

"Unde Bernarrln*. mnnduni istum sonjihilem^ Hbnim 
comtnunem oateiia lij^^utum appellnt^ ut in eo sapii^iUata 
legAt t|uioam{]Uf volmjril, licat voleot esse in Ivcclesiie ca- 
thedrtfiibtid breviaria promisciUB moltitudiiii exposita, 
catcnuluque appeasa." 



Prophecies of Nostradamus^ MarimOt and Joa' 
_dkim (VoLx., p.48S.). — 

** ScrisM guL Nostrodamo in an Ta^ uino 
Autor, che max non dis^e la bu^ia; 
L^ialesBo afferma on* altra Praletia 
Del reverendo Abbate Gioacchino ; 
Che qnnndo una beatlaccia da moUno 
Parlar con vocs hamana a'adii ia. 
Suhito r Antechriito nascoria 
£ *1 fin del Motida sarebbe vicino." 

Marino, La Murtokidc, Fiach. xlviiL, 
ed. Spini, 1619. 

n. B. c. 

J. U. Clob. 

i^Tht Ditfining Hod (YoL ]c« paMaim% — Perbapa, 

ke many of your eoirespondents, I hud imagined 
that the supposed piopertiea of the divining rod 

had been a discoyery recently made, either hy 
that frreat American artist, ^Ir. Barnum, or bj 
one of the Dii minorcs of this country. To my 
mortification^ however, I find that it is " as old as 
the hills," or at least cotemporaneous with the 
*' Sortes Yipf^lianw," et id gettus omne. I have 
before me The Works of Mr. Abraham Cawley^ 
in two vols. 12mo., London, printed in IfJSl ; and 
in one of his **Pindancjue Odes/* addressed to 
Mr, Hobs (voL L p, 4LJ, I find the following 
lines ! 

*'To walk in mines, like vain ^boats, we lovff, 
And with fond divining: wands, 
We search nmonjE; the dead 
For treasures burled." 

And to these lines is added (p* 43.) the following 

" Vir^la Bivina, or divining wand, is a two-forked 
branch of a hazel tree, which is osckI for the finding out, 
either of veins, or bidden treasures of gold or silver; and 
being carried about, bends downwards (or rather is said 
to do so) yrhesa it comes to the place where ihey lye/' 

AmoTdiliadQ Sherry (Vol, xi., p 89,)« — 3fofto 
(French, mout ; German, miisl)^ or raw wine, ia 
made up and flavoured by the addition of the wine 
grown in the district of Montilla. The product 
IS Amontilla<lo, or Montiliated sherry. This is 
the real derivation of the term, I do not pretend 
to deny the peculiarity of the fermentation of 
Montilia wine. H. F. B. 

MorUditif m A^tgust (Vol, x., p. 304.). — Sep- 
tember will, I think, be found to be the month of 
greatest mortality in most of the plague yearSi 
Although it does not appear to have been the case 
at Csmbridcre In 1666, or at Bury in 1637, From 
the extracts from the regtstftrt oi St, Mary\ Bury 
St. Edmunds, printed in TyminsV Histary of IhftI 
church, it appears that in 1544 ** the highest rate 
of mortality was in August and September, when 
45 persons in the one month, and 75 in the other* 
are entered with the plagne mark." In 1687 
there wore 74 in July, 128 in August, and 117 in 
September. BuBtxNUi. 

Clay Tobacco-pipes (Vol. xi., p. 37,). — The 
Hunts appear to have been a family of pipe- 
makers, but where established I am unable to 
state. In my collection of oUl pipes from various 
localities, there are now about dfty dilferent 
marks, and amongst them are two with the name 
in question, but of different indiyiduals, *^ loinr 
ovHT " and *' thomas avNT.** One was found in 
London, the other at Ogden St George in Wilt- 
shire. In both cases the letters are sunk, not 
embossed; the v is substituted for the u, the a 
has a cross-bar at top, and in one the v and t ar*. 
combuiecl like a monogfiuxv. 5^^t^ \\>isvN.'^ ^!^«. 
to me. Pipes ot tW wn£Ti\ft«a:Oci <i«txiXxxn «^ ^='«**^ 




[Na 275. 

found in churchyards ; I picked up several when 
the surface ground of that at Much Wenlock was 
lowered. W. J. Bebkhabo Smith. 


Brasses restored (Vol. x., pp. 104. 535. ; Vol. xi., 
p. 37.)* — For the informalion of Sob I bee to say 
that the " metallic rubber ** and prepared paper 
for monumental brasses are sold by U. S. Kiciiard- 
son, Stock well Street, Greenwich. I have em- 
ployed this method, but I doubt if Sob will find it 
answer so fully as he probably expects. Its com- 
position is not made known, but it appears to be 
simply bronze powder melted with bees*-wax. 
Rubbings made with it on black paper certainly 
produce very faithful representations of the 
original brasses, but they have the disadvantage of 
not bearing to be folded ; and the bright colour of 
the bronze soon fades. F. C. II. 

St Pancras (Vol. xi., p. 37.). — The figure of i 
this saint on the noble brass of Prior Nelond is i 
described by Nobris Deck as '* treading on a ' 
human figure, probablv intended for one of bis | 
Pagan persecutors." I should suppose it rather ' 
intended to symbolise his triumphs over the arch- 
enemy of mankind, in allusion to the etymology of I 
the saint's name. He is said to have been Bishop | 
of Taormina in Sicily, to have been ordained by ' 
St. Peter himself, and finally stoned to death. ' 
Hence he is often represented with a sword in one | 
hand and a stone in the other. F. C. H. ! 

Artificial Ice (Vol. xi., p. 39.). — Your corre- I 
spondent I. P. O. inquires " What was the sub- ' 
stance exhibited under the name of artificial ice ! 
for skating on at the Egyptian Hall and Baker - 
Street Bazaar, many years ajyo?*' I believe it i 
was merely a strong solution of £psom or Glauber j 
salts, which was frequently replaced, as it was soon | 
cut up by the skaters. F. C. H. | 

CampbelTs ImitaHons (Vol. vi., p. 506.).— The 
line — 

** And comiDg events cost their shadows before.'* 

has been compared with similar thoughts in Leib- 
nitz and Chapman. It has also a prototype in 
Shakspcare, though the resemblance is not so 
dose as to amount to plagiarism in Campbell. 

In Troilus and Cressida^ Act I. Sc. 3., Nestor 

" And in such indexes, although small pricks 

To their Biibsequcnt volumes, there is seen 

The bahyjigurt of the giant mau 

Of things to come at large." 


Turning the Tables (Vol.iii., p. 276.). — This is 
derived from the game of backgammon, formerly 
called " The Tables," where the tables are said to 
be turned, when the fortune of the game changes 
from one player to the other. Uii£oa. 

Sesteriium (Vol. xi^ p. 27.). — The fonowing ex* 

tract from Zumpt, § 84^ is perhaps the beat nplj 
that can be given to Mb. MiDDi.aTO!i*8 Query: 

** The neater iesiertium, which denoted a sum and not a 
coin, was equal to a thousand testertiL In reckoning bf 
asses, as the Romans carried their numbers only to eealnM 
millia and formed higher numbers by ad verba (§ 29.), Ai 
words centena millia came to be left out, and omlg the 
numeral adverbs, deeies, vicieSf &c used, with whkh 
centena millia is to be supplied. Thna deeie* aeris vn 
deeies centena millia assium aeris. In reckoning by wsh 
terces, the neuter noun sesteriium was joined in the ent 
required by the construction with the numeral advok 
Thus deeies sestertium (-t-o-um-o) was tiecies eenUna hEi 
sestertiorum (gon. pi. of sestertius), a million of seaterfu. Ik 
adverb often stood alone ; e. g deeies, oieies. There vfR 
therefore three forms, carefully to be distinguished fiw 
each other : the sestertius, joined with the cardinal wot 
bers, denoting a single nummus segtertius ; tho aratriiHa 
joined in the plunu with ordinals, denoting so wm 
thousancUof the nummi sestertii ; aud sestertium^ joined s 
the singular only with numeral adverbs, denoting i 
many hundred seslertia, or hundred thousand aestoft 
See Vall. Pat 2. 10. sex millibns (ac. seaterUis msse.\ 
Suet. Aug. 101. Yicena sestcrtia. Nep. Att. 14. 2. Sestcftii 
vicies . . . scstertio centies. These three combinatidH 
were distinguished in wr iting; HS. X. was decern sesterts; 
HS. X] decern sestertia ; 11 S. X. deeies sestertium. Bottb 
distinction was not always observed, if our present MS& 
of the classics are correct Yid. Ascon. Ped. Gfe. Fer. L 

Subject to the correction of Cicero*s text, or to 
his mystification, the following are the reapectiTe 
values of — 

HS. D. millia • 
HS. MM. 
HS. M. 

These English values are from Ainsworth. The 
Penny Cyc, art. Sestertius,' values the sestertium 
at 81. 17 s. Id, See Anthon's Sallitst, CataL 
XXX. Conf. Say, Pol, Ec. b. i. c. 81. § 7. as to the 
comparative value of Roman and modern money. 
On the text of Act, ii. 3. 32., see Valpy's ed. vL 
p. 532. T. J. BucxTOS. 


Cummin (Vol. xi., p. 11.), or rather CumiD 
(^Cuminum cyminum^ Linn.), was probably placed 
in coffins with the dead bod^ (as many other plants 
and herbs) on account of its antiseptic, aromatic 
properties. That it was extensively used for some 
purposes in ancient times may be inferred from 
the mention of it in holy writ (both Old and New 
Testaments), in the old Medical^ Classics both 
Greek and Roman, and in the writings of Horace, 
Fersius, and others ; but it was most in use ap- 
parently by the Arabian physicians : much b said 
of it by Rhazcs, Serapion, Avicenna, and Aver- 
rhoes ; but whether there is anything to connect 
the plant with any necrologicafpurposes, I hate 
not been yet able to ascertain. The inquiry would 
be well worth pursuing. Wiluam Pamfuv* 

* Here the word mUlia is nsed instead of 

5 hundred sestertia b xI03$ 
2 thousand sestertii » 16 

1 n n = 8 

Feb. 3. 1855,] 



Talliet (Vol x., p. 485, ; Vol. xL, p. IS). — 
Tallies are ur»i ver&Rllj used in the hop-gardertB in 
the nei;2:hhourhood of Canterbury, between the 
overseer of the pjarden and the nup-pickers, to 
mark the numher of baskets filled, E. F. 

Hangman s Wages (Vol xl, p, 13.) —^ know 
not how hangmen are remunerated now fur their 
disjruating work j but six or seven and twenty 
years njjo there were always two persons employed 
m London to perform all executions, hftuxinga^ 
whippings^ pillories, Scc^ and each of them hud a 
aalary of 50/. a year. I can assure you that when 
a vacancy occurred, there were many candidntes 
for the oificc, E. F, 

Charm /or a Wart (Vol, xL, p. 7.). — Twenty- 
five years u^o there resided at the little vjllfla:e of 
Ferry Hinckley, near Oxford, in n co tt age adjoin - 
mg the church, an old woman who had a great 
reputation fur charming warts. Being at that 
time a lad, and much troubled with these ex- 
Cteicences, one of which was as large as a four- 
penny piece, I was recommended to pny the old 
fad J a Tistt, With fear and trembling I entered 
her little hut, and after being interrogated as to 
the number of warts upon my person, a small stick 
was produced, upon which certain notches were 
cut, a cross having been first alighily Imprinted on 
the larger wart ; the oM lady then retired into 
her garden to bury the stick, and I wiis d is missed. 
From that day my troublesome and unsightly 
adherent!! hepm to crumble owoy, ami I have never 
been troubled since. Silence as to the trjuisaction 
is strictly enjoined, nor must any remuneration be 
offered until the warts have quite disappeared, 

Z. 2. 



The Cimtiten Society has just jsttued nnothor vnlunblfl 
contnbutini) la our materiala for the llmory of Erif^land. 
It ii» entitled C rants from the Cnmm (lunnif the Reign of 
Edward the Fifth, frotn tha Orhjinal DiH-kei Boitk^ ^f^. 
Ilarl. 43',i.. with an hUtoncftl introtluciion^ by John Gough 
Nichols, F.S A. Tbe manuscript, of whkb t lie documents 
hero priiUecl furm a part, has long been known as a record 
of great vabie, and as aucb ha* bwn quo ted by wveral of 
our most pftinstakini^ bifltorical writern. Of the JmporL* 
ance wbich Hum[djrey Wanley attached to it, no better 
proof can be i:^ ivcn thda the fact, that his account of iu 
contents occupies no ]e&» than sixty pages of the folio 
Cataloga« of the Harleian MSS. Short 9a was the reign 
tnd Dr. Ltngard. the icatbng events of it are stilt invoh-ed 
In an obwority, to the removal of wbldi ihm volume will 
of Edward W and despite the labours of Sharon Turner 
greatly contribute : and few, we think, will rise from its 
p€nii?al without a feel in p thai it is one, the publieation of 
which reflects credit alike on the Camden Society, and 
the «CJ?ompH«bed antiquary by whom it has b«en so 
careful ly e<Uted, 

We iiavfl before had occasion to make favourable 
^ ikt Archkeeiuralt Archieolofficait 

and Historic Simety for the County, City, and NciMour- 
hood of Chetttr; and the Third Part (Jsoaary to D^ 
cember, 1853), which baa just been issued, deserres the 
•amo treatment. Like ita predeceasora, it is properly coo* 
fined to subjects of local interest, aud is profusely, rftther 
than elegantly, illufitrated. 

The mention of this local Society recfdls our attention to 
a small contribution to lo<?al biography, the publication 
of wbicb calls for a few line* of record in our columuit^ 
We allude to a aeriea of Pttr^leg of Warrington Worthies, 
collected and arranged bv James Eendrich, M. D, 
Amonj^ tbcse Warrington it'orthies it may be remem- 
bered are the Aikiiis Harbaulds, Dr. Priestley, Slc 

We learn that the library of the late learned and re- 
spcctetl Presitlent of Magdalen Collejje, Oxford, Dr Jtouth, 
ia to be transferred from Oxtbrdj where books abonod, to 
Durham. By a deed of gift, made two yean ago, it is 
conveyed to' the Warden, MasterSf and Scholars of the 
Universitv of Durham. The library is said to contain 
nearly ^U^OOO volumes. 

The world -renowned collection of the late Mr. Bemal 
is to bo sold by Messrs. Christie & Mansou at bia late 
residence, in I'^ton Square^ early in March. The Cata- 
logue, wiiicb is illufltmtetl with woodcuts of the most 
valuable and interesting articles, has juit t>een issued; 
and when the nssendjlage of matchless objects, which the 
liberalitr and good taste of the late proprietor had enabled 
hirn to bring together, are dispersed abroad, the Catalogue 
will find it^ place on the shelf of every lover of carlv art, 
not only ss a memorial of the collectx^r, but as n guide to 
his own studies in the same departmi»nL We advise our 
readers not to lone the opportunity of seeing, before it is 
broken up, a collection which hns^ we believe, scarcely its 
equal in Europe ; and our friends who are collectors, to 
remembor that such another sale caonot occur agaiu for 

While on the subject of Sales, we may direct attention 
to the very curious — indeed Messrs. Southgate Sc Barrett 
are perhaps justitie^l in calling it unique — collection of 
prints and cnttings, entitled " Notes ond 111 uatral tans," 
treating on everv subject interesting to the antjcjuary, 
the huttorian^ and tini lopngrapbefp imtl comnri^d in one 
bandred and thirty quarto volumes, which they are 
about to sell bj' auetion. Those only who have en ilea* 
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The following extracts, which hare been made 
from several (if the records of the \T\t\\ Exche- 
quer, afford some iiiforiuiition upon the c(i>t of 
person u1 property in Ireland ut an earlv [>eriod of 
time, and they uUo convey to m some idea 
** Of manners long since changeil and gone." 

Amon2f<t the fra^rments of Iri?h Tfconls re- 
cently bniu^ht to Dulilin from Switzerland, I 
find a remnant of a Flea Roll of rhe 18 Edward I , 
containin;^ an entry srntin;; that N'ich'ila.x, Artrh- 
bishnp of Anna<;h, was arcunt^d of taking; two cmws 
worth 5s. each, and two bullock!* (juvencHs) w(»itli 
2*. ea<;h, the property of Henry KcMiele;r. By 
other frat^ments nf Irish recnrds, i\\>\\ brought 
from Switzerland, an<l apparently of the rci^n 
of Kdward II., it up{jears that a kni'flit naineil 
Waleys and Nichola:i Habruhain hntke into the 
** came ram sacerdotiim ** of the church of St. 
Patrii-k at Ca.-he1, and stule th Tcfroin four cran- 
mK-k^ of whe:tt worth 20jr. each; ihat Stephen 
Laweles robbed Ilii<!h X(iriliw\che (»f a hcirer 
worth 24., of sixty (fall ni 1.4 of ale wi>rili ]o«, ti; 
tW'i b'i>lieU of wheat, ^* unain ('a! n^^ani et umijui 
capucium,** worth lU ; that \^'iiliam St.iir>ril. the 
kin^'.H ser^reant, with oiliers, roUheil Rojcr le Bret 
of a heifer (juvencn), worth 40(f., ^'ile uni»airu ct 
un(» ^laneto *' (vuluo d-faee<i), an<l of liiree !(he<'p 
worth 8^. each; that iiobert Un'wn n>'(tlK'd ilenry 
Spencer of eighteen pi«rs worili 1 mark, John tiie 
chai»lain (if twoc<>W!i wi>rih 1 mirk, ao'iofa heiler 
worth 40(/., and that he alsn rnhhed .I«ihn Manery 
of aciiw and a heiter worth 1 niaik. it farther ap- 
pears by these fra<iinents of the rei;!n of Kdwanl II., 
thai a h(ir>e was thi-ii va1iie<l, sometimes at a mark, 
and at other times at 40«., a sh.-e|» ** hidentem ** at 
12</-, a p';; at 'l8 , and six crannock^ of at (\l. 

It nl:^o appears hy the same fia;;nint<i that 
Ge^iffrtfv Harold, vicar of (ireiie, rohhed a woman 
who was ^oIn«r towards Linu-rick nt' ** una in fa- 
llow m ** worth 12'/.; that two nicniiers of th.- 
family of de Lomlro mbhed John !c Fleni\n;r 
of ten crarinoi.-ks *' iil-idi mixti ct uiii> (•ranii"eo 
bra!(ei avens,** and that they also ro'>i>ed William 
B«i:;<n1 of twenty (.rannock> (ifwh-at an i iwenty- 
eiifht crannrK'ks of oats worth 20/., K<ilieri 
Fitz John Swa\n rnhl>ed tlohii Kiiz A«laiii of 
twelve cowa worth 10 marks, and ihirteiii 'Sil- 
fris** worth 6 marks; that " una olhi en*-a** was 
worth 12i/.; that two tunicks were worth 4<., a 
gown 3«., four salmon 2«., nine cows 6/, twelve 
eowa 12 marks and half a erannovk f»f wheat 8«. 

In the 4 Edward II. the Koods of W illiam the 
; df ITowcMtk of L mraliHUMito 

Bist of sixteen crannocka of wheat worth dt. 
each, of sixteen cran nocks of oats worth 4ff. 6dL 
each, a haycivek worth lOff., three cows and two 
calves worth Sx.each. thirty-two **bidente8" worth 
lOr/. ea<-h, one ''affrum*' worth 2«., fourteen pies 
worth 18r/. each, three and a half acrev of "hasti- 
nell,** sown, worth 8«. an acre, three crannocks of 
beans woi th 64. each, and one crannock of peaa 
worth 4jr. 6</. 

In the 26 Kdwanl III. the follow in<r articles, 
l>ein«r the properly of one Walter de Berming- 
ham, were delivered by the treasurer of the 
Exclitcpier to Robert de Pre^on, for the benefit 
of his the said Waiter's »on when of full age : 

** I'na irale.i ove It* barber |>ro bastiludio 
I'lia ."•'hhi pro CHieiii - - - . 

I'nuMi \Kxr* d'- plates - - - . 
I'niiin brr«>tfplatu - - - . 

rmiiii saci-ain pro eodL-m 
I'll iii.iyii il»' terr« - - - . 

I n <-b.p|K*l lie icrrc - - - - 
I'll icieJnase - - - - . 
I'll estiitr pro una lancea 
L'n akeluti ------ 

















By the Memoranila Roll of the 48 & 49 £d- 
wanl III., menib. 4>^ face, it afipear^ that (me 
Maiiric Law.-h"!* of Le Bre (hcnlie Bray), near 
Dill lin, had nine arres ot wheat, each acre of tiie 
pric • oi 4.V. : :<even a-'ics of oats, price 4(V/. per 
arre; a horse worth a murk, and a s<iw and six- 
teen little piir^ wor h i)x., within the said manor. 

In the 2 Richanl III., William Brian ot' Drom- 
eonrajli, a rhaplaii), robbed Stephen Patrick of 
'*dua^ tunicas viri>runi fiaiini Anj^lici** worth 
l:)v 4^/. and " nnam ialinL'ain*' worth 40c/. In 
ih" 1 Richaid III. Jame> Cruys robbed Thomas 
Sare-fel'l of ei^ht yanU of ch)th, called "a>ay," 
worth \'\x. 4*1., and *' ile nno in.'*truniento ferri,** 
railed *■ liran«hrne," wurtli 20*/. 

Bv the .M.-niorai.da Roll of the 11 Hctiry IV., 
ini'in. IJ ilors<». it appeals that John Framptttn, 
of tlh' (ity ot Dnbliii. the k>n;r's debtor, had 
fv%«'nty-ei^lit ** nobilia aiiiietunum anulitiii aurl 
prt'eii." 'in//., whij-h he ^ave to William, a 
eiiaplain. V* ili-tnlinie for his soul ; ih^it he ii\>o 
p.».i^. s^.'ii ^'niiiim p.iiMiiii aniiliim aureuni" \xorth 
*20/., v\lii<h he • ::.i\e *^ pro aiiima sua;" he 
al^o piis>es«<-i **.il!ipi -<1 aiiiiliiiii aiireum 1 nm una 
iiiaii/.irit:i vo<Mia sliir.-"' vM)rtli 2(>*l. B\ another 
entry :ipo 1 tli.- siim Ko.l. membraiie 1*2 dorro, it 
apji-ai- ih.t lie al-f pi->es>ei| *' uiiUn aliulKS 
aiiieii-i i-«i:ii iin I m-rj-iiia vticata <lyaiiioiiiit ** 
wo t:i *J().v., "liiiii-ii h b ie auri et unus aiiulus 
aur.-n>" u;.rili 4t»'/. 

Ill Mil- ti K'lwati IV, I {chard Brout*. a eh.ip- 
I.iin. roiibi" ! K ib -rJ ( u« k-' of L'os\ni!e*t"n it a 
h -rr^e uoiih o ma k% and in the 1 Itii-liunl III., 
William Sli'V'iior, ilie prior of All Saiiiis, ih-ar 
Dublin. a> Rat hi ^jlk\ t.\\\\.«v\ VvvAn^^xA V\\vn\kn>h'^ 

of tkifve \itt»W\« w\" wWtiX Tiw>Xi ^i%. V^ ^^ >ijw- 



[No. 27*. 

chard III., a husbandman robbed Emmot Owvn, 
a widow, of a horse worth 16«. In Uie 18 fid- j 
ward I v., a nunc stole from Robert Belyng ; 
of Bvlyngi'Ston ** unnin falyngum ** worth 40c/., 
**dua9 pc'pltts fill linei" worth 10^<f., '*duaji pe- 
plas,** eallcHi ^* laiiud,** worth 20//., ^ unum tippet 
de violet panni An^lici** worth 18</., and a pair of 
•purs worth 12//. In the reign of Rtchanl III-, 
Walter Ciiitake of Gerardeston was ro)ihe«l of two 
salmon worth 4f. each. In the 19 £>lward IV., 
Edward Teljng of Sjddan, and an " idilinan," 
robbeti Robert White "de quinqun forpicibus" 
worth 20</., "dunbuH seoiiris ' worth 16i/., "duo- 
bus {lenetndilius** worth 4c/., anti 20c/. in mouej. 

In the I Henry VII., Jainest Barby, a inenrhaiit 
of Dublin, robbe*! Chriatophur Bellewe of Bel- 
leweston of iwo oowa worth 5*. 4d. each. In the 
1 Richard III., John Xetterville of Douth, gon- 
Ueman, robbed Kichard Molice of two ^heep 
worth 8e/. eacii, and four busht'Is of outs worth 
V2d. In the 2 Ricimrd III., Koi^ert Chauiberlyn 
of Chauiberleynestoii, gcntleniun, stule seven acres 
of whi»at^ worth 2G,v. Sd. per acre, from Feral 
Oconyll of Gyrly ; and in the 1 Richard UL, 
" unani olliiui eneam/* and " iinum niorterium 
cneani " (values defaced in the reconl), " a 
vhafTe" worth 20«., and "(juodam vas eneum 
yO(*atani A bell" worth 13jr. 4c/, were stolen from 
Robert Scii»'la;». 

In the 2 Charh>s I., Mr. Philip Bushen of 
Graiigoniilhui, co. Kildare, was condennu'd for 
the nninler of liis wile, and an inventory having 
been mudo of hi.** goixls, they were found to eonsisi 
of, auiongrit other lhingv<), — 

Iri.^h money. 
M. fi. 
•• 32 j'owon ... - worth !HJ 
2 ImIN 

iW nilvi"! - - - - - 

H \IMiailN . - - - - 

A \uH\iin - - - - - 

(VihMi wry nrH, their cImviica and 
plow harm'-H Slid irons 


,00 nhi'i'n iind 11)1) lambs - - - 

I iiii'i'i"! iir HUMS - - - - 

'.» IliMl •.huvi'lU - - - - 

I iilil intl - - - - - 

I yiiMi potl and -1 pnnns of brus^o - 

I ihiii'-pint iHjwtcr jmrt, 1 i>e\vtcr 

dtnh, pewler s^ilt, 1 payre of iron 

tiippets, and 1 spitt 

1 hay re i-ioth to tlry malt, and cer- 

ten piercs <»f tyinher 
C co\ve8 and 1 surkin^ oilf - 
11 yoiiii^ cuttle, heifiTH and bullo<ks, 
«"f two yeari's i»ld or thereabouts 
18 yoarlinj; bullocks and heifers 
€300 toine «f board lying in the great 
wood - - - - - 
292 fsthoMi of wntxi lying by the river 
of Barrowside • -* - - 


8 each. 


8 each. 




4 each. 


U each. 







4 each. 

C each. 



G 8 



C the hund. 
IG the fatb.*' 

Cork, and Youjrhal, in the south of Ireland, and 
solil for the sum of 1049/. 3ji. 6d. By the certt- 
fieate of sale which was returned into the Exche- 
quer, it appears that ''a barque** of 34 tons was 
sold for 60/., another of between 50 and 60 tons 
was sold by candle for 106/., another of 70 tons 
was sold for 32/.; 10,000 weight of "reisona" 
were sold for 20*. a hundred; 340 hides for 
102/. 12*.; 48 pipes of " Mallnga wynes" for 
12/.; and 170 "peeces" of " Mallaga reisons* 
for 18*. "per peece." Before the ships wera 
seizeti the commissioners made the following pay- 
ments for "ye shipps conipanie :" | 

£ t. 
" They paid the bnier for boere - - - 7 10 
Thev paid the baker for bread - - - 4 16 
They paid for 221) weight of butter - - 2 17 

They paid f«»r 2 barrel Is of herrings - - 1 17 j 
They paid for 8 quarters of In-efe - - - 1 15 * 
3lenu}randa Roll of the Exchequer, 4 Charles I. m. €. 

James F. Febousok. 


In the jear 1628 several French vesst-Is were 
seized in the ports of Uaterford, Kinsale, Dingle, 

Popfs " Ethic Episdes:' — I solicit the earij 
attention of my fellow-contributors to " N. & Q. 
to the ftillowiiig Queiy. 

In Nicholses Aftecdotea of lAterature^ vol. v. 
p. 578., it is statt'd that in 1742 Warburton 
edited for Pope his Ethic Epistles^ with his own 
commentary. Is any copy of that publicatioa 
extant ? 1 doubt any of that date's having ever 
existed. C. 

Avecdntrs of Pope, — As you inserted the anec- 
dote of Johnson which I lately sent you, perhaps 
you will {live admission to the following niteudotei 
of Pope from the Toim aud Country Magazine 
for May, 1709? 1 believe it contains the earliest 
inf(»rntHtion we have as to the precise place of the 
poet*s birth. What is known of his tragedj of 
Tinioleon f are any portions in existence ? 

M. N. S. 

" Some authentic Anecdotes of Mr, Pope, never 
before in print: 

" Mr. Pope was born in Lombard Street, Lon* 
doO} in a house where a few years ago resided 
Mr. Morgan, an aiK>tl)ecary. 

" Pope, when verv young, was introduced as I 
maker of verses to t)ryden, who gave him a shil- 
ling fjir the version of' Pyramus and Thisbe.' 

** Pope wrote his Ode on Music at the desire 
and inhtigation of Steele, who used to prefer it 
to Dry den's : it was set to music by Dr. Green. 

"Pope spent some time in writing a tragedj 
calle<l Timoleon^ but did not succeed in the at- 

James Moore Smyth (Vol. x., pp. 102. 240.459.). 
— As every fact tending to establish the identity 


B. 10, 1855,3 



of til is gentleman us tlie son of Arthur Moore will 
be prubjibly aeceptuhle to V., Mr. CAHRUTanas, 
and J. M. 8., I sent] you lln; lulUiwiiig jju^sjige 
wljii4i I have jusi htmubltid ^>p^»ii tn y. 19. o> TAc 
Brohdignagian ; being a Key ta Gidlir^crs Votfuge 
to Brobdigmg, In a Sticoud Letter to Bean Hw^Jt: 
Lomlon, 1726 : 

** Thiii obserx-atioHt Mr. D«an, we both know to be true, 
And 1 liiive had the honour of hfjiring it confiruicil by 
Artbur Moorf. K'ti.t at bis mr.jl seat in Snrn*y* I nm 
Ukewi^io ussurt'd iLit bi^i liopefuil son Jrmw^ re^ohfs to 
cast I bis race of upntarts in a coineily whirh is shortly to 
make ltd appearunee upon the Thtatre lloval in Drurj- 

This is the secoRfi pnrt (there are nit or; ether 

yir) of A Kry ; being Ohxervntions and Einlau' 

Wibrr/ Notex upita the IVatytl.s of Lemuel GuUiuer- 
Sy Signirr Corolini^ a noble Venetian now residing 

in LoHflan. In a Letter to Dmn Swift, Tram- 

hied from the Italian Originai. 

"Qni vuk, Lecton decipi detipiatur; 

**ULit comes the BooA^ utid ttie Ket/ followa jiftcr." 

ItOndony printed in the Year 1726.* I sIhhiM like 
to know iVom smiiu tjf your readers familitir with 
the literature of the liiiu% wlietln'r Sigunr Vanditd 
was tittt rt'liiteil to Dr» Barncfldt, who attaeked the 
Hape of the Lork ; and al^j to rbe auihur ol' the 
Key to the Dunciadf 1 Imve not a copy Kit' tbt? 
!atit:r work to refer to^ but I have a &troii|r im- 

I)reB:*!oii that it bcura on ibe title a coiii»let very 
ike I bar tm the Key to Gulliver* 

By-tlje-by*.', bavinnr gjveu us a Bibliogrnphy of 
The Jynnciad^ you oii*:lit to i ompU'te your work 
by a Bjblio|:i3iLttby oC The Kry to that j oeiii, tiiul 
of the various books to which it gave rise. S» H. 

^^bufin^ the persecution of Christinns under thf 
H^^n emperoi!!} it was not uncommon for ibeir 
DOok<4 to be t;£»ndenuicd to the tirt*> Tbur*, in thr 
martyrdom of SntiiriHnu% who snftered under 
Dioi'tetiun in A.n, 304, we read iluit a fire was 
kindled to consume tlie sacred liooks wbirh hud 
been yivcn up for the purpose ; but a siudik-n bill 
of rain exliiig:uishe(l tho 0ainrs mid suved ihe 
volumes. The uiartyr Eupliiis (a.d. 30.3) wa» led 
away to execution with a copy of the Go-pela 
liunu about bis neck. The sutue year an etlict 
Tras issued by the emperor, orderioj; idl the sfit.'re(i 
books «d' the Christians to be surrendered to ihe 
civil ninrfist rates, or to be seized io order to be 
burnt. This etlict was pulilished fhronghout the 

There is no pubUaber** nnmp^ hut tho lri«t three pnijes 
I Ot*CUpi»-»ii with a list of New Botijis, printed for H. Cutil 
he Strtind, I prelum*.* Uw. H it% h mii*print, lur the first 


eurpire, and as far Hi possible cnrned into effect. 
Those who timidly gave up the bunks were caUcd 
traditures^ of whom freipient mention le made in 
the records of the titnea. The first council of 
Aries, in 314, decided (Canon 13 ) I hut those of 
ihii cleiny j«ltouhl be dejiosed who ^ave up the 
snered Scriptures, the ve^seU used in the service, 
or the nauies of their brethren* 

Zotiara!) informii us (book iii. LeoTmur,) tbat a 
royal edifice hail been ereefed, wherein many 
vtilumes of sacred an*i profane li(er>«ture were 
deposited, an<l where from ancient times he was 
allowed to dwell who, havinif proved bis supe- 
ih>rity to letters, waji styled the (Ecumenical Doc- 
tiir. His associates were twelve oiber learned 
men, who were inauitained at the public expense, 
to whom whoever was ambitious of acquiring 
knowledge resorted, and whuin the emperors 
fhemselves consultvd in the business of the atate. 
Leo w<mld have deemi^l the accotnpligbment of 
\\\» ♦lesij^ias no longer uncertain, if the sanation of 
tlje*e men could have been (detained. He laid 
before thorn hrs views : he mmle use of caresses 
nnd of ibrealSr But when nolhing could prevail, 
be dijimiS'icd tbeni» and, cnnmrnndin;? the building 
to be surrouutled with dry wrjod, consunTiCd them 
and the rich treiumre which they g^uufded, of 
30»000 vobtnieH, in the fltimea. (Berington^s iif. 
HtHt., pp. 36!-*i , Bobri*i4 edition.) 

ConstEin^iiiople was taken in 1204, and tt is 
pndnible that noiny works perisbe<l in the three 
fires which ra*ipd in tbti city^ aud some writings 
cd' antiipiiry wlikdi are kt\own to huve existed in 
the twebth century are n«>vv lost. {Ibid. p. 393*) 

In the year 1453, when ConMantinople was 
tjiken by the Tuiks, 123,000 MSlS. are eaid to 
have disappeared. It is xvell known that they 
were not ail (ie.-tfroyed, as many were removed. 

Oiirdiiial Xiiiienes Ih rcportet), at the taking of 
Gremida, to have doomed 5000 copies of the 
Ki>ran to the diiuies. 

In 10^9, l$ennj;er was compelled to burn the- 
work f)f John Scot us Eritrena iigainst Paschasiiis 
Rudbert. The book is now lost. 

Eiirlv in the sixteenth century the Emperor 
^liiximtlian gave an order tbat all Jewish books 
should be burnt except the Bible, because they 
were filled witli blaaphemk's agaioH Chriat. 
lieuihlin and other learned men opposfcd it; 
wliereu|>on Ueueblin w.^ reqifiretl by the em* 
peror to exainine the bonks. He did so, lint he 
^avcd all thiit contained no attacks upoti Chris- 
tiaidtv, and burnt the rest. This leniiy oflended 
the Doininicans, who charged Rencblm bioiBelf 
with bereisy. Ilodistrnten assembled a tribunal 
ai Mj^iyence against Hcuchlin in 15 13^ and secured 
the condeumatif^n of his wriiings to the f\iimes. 

Not long aftt-r, anonymous publicatiiins con- 
taining cvaiigilical dtM'trttv*:* W^^wcv ^<?^^^ V^^^"^^ 
and prlvaHeV^ nyft^WtinX M ^^'g^^ "^^^ '^^'^^ 



[No. 278. 

were soon discoTered b/ the inquisiton and 

The celebrated treatise of Aonio Paleario, On 
ike BenefiU of ike Death of Christy wm prose- 
cuted with great ri;,^iur, and whenever found 
destroyed ; and though no less than 40,000 
copies of it were sold in six years, it is now a 
scarce book. 

«< The Index KxpurgatoriuM is well known ; and as tho 
oondemiied books were con«igiied to the flameji, we form 
some ides of the amount of destruction caused by theo- 
loi^ical bigotry and hate." 

In A.D. 849, Godeschalk was condemned at 
Chiersey, and sentenced to be deprived and to 
be whipped, until he should throw tne statements 
he had made at Ments the year before in his own 
defence into the flames. It is said he submitted, 
under torture, to throw into the fire the texts he 
had collected in support of his own opinions. 

CTobe continued.) 


In many parishes in Cornwall an annual allow- 
ance of 7s, 6fl. is made to the riuHrers, wlio, on the 
ni^rht of Xov. 4, remind us of the Gunpowder 
Plot. Now ringers are pniverbiully thirsty souls : 
and the crazy discord, or no less expressive nilence 
of some of the belfries, plainly tells how this item 
of the churchwHnlen^s account is expended. 
"Cracked one ringin<; night,'* concludes the his- 
tory of many of our belU. 

The tower of Lansallos Church contains the 
fragments of two bells scattered on the tloor of 
the belfry; while a third, still han;;iiig, barely 
serves to notify the hour of service to the inha- 
bitants of the ail joining hamlet. A few particulars - 
respecting the latter may interest sonic of your | 
correspondents, and furni>h two or three Queries 
to those learned in heraldry. 

There is nottiing remarkable in the shape or ] 
size of the bell, but it hears the w(»rds, in an old 
black-lotter character : ** Sancta Margarcfa ora 
pro nobis,** and also three coats of arms which I 
will attempt to describe. 

The first is a chevrcm between threo fleurs-de- 
lys. The second is an octaiional shii'Id, eliurged 
with a very curious cros^let. Thi* third is a chfv- . 
ron between three remarkable- looking vessels with 
spouts, more like the modern cotfee-pot than any- 
tning I know besides. Tiie tinctures, if there 
were ever any, are obliterated. 

Can any of the reiwlers of " X. & Q." inform 
me^l. To whom the arms belong? *2. Whether 
the character of the legend indicates the age of 
tAe bcHf 3. What are the vessels with which ! 

It has been supposed that the latter is the coit 
of Pincerna (a family which aAerwards took th« 
name of Lanheme), whose ancestor, William de 
Albany, held lands from the Conqueror on the 
service of attending the king as chief butler on 
the day of conmation. But the Pincerna arms, ai 
displayed among seven-and-thirty of the alliances 
of the Trelawnys, over the fire-place in the hall 
at TreUwny, are: Gules, on a bend or, three 
covered cups sable. 

This bell, I have thought, may be coeval with 
the re-edificution of the church, which was dedi- 
cated to St Ildiernsi, or Hyl.lren, October 1(S, 
1331. (Olivcr*s Monauticon Dioc. Ezon,^ Ap- 

On putting together the fragments of one of the 
other belli, it was found to bear the initials of the 
donors ; and an inscription in mmlern characten, 
of which I ('ould only discover these words : 

" In May we cast this — 
To pray and hear his word divine." 

It will be unnece>sary fur me to confess my 
ignorance of the ii^entle science ; but as an atone- 
ment for my herulilic offences in this note, I shall 
be happy t<j make a few tracings of my sketch of 
the legend and arms for those of your readers 
whom the subject may interest, and who will 
apply to Thomas Q. Couch. 

Polperrot Cornwall. 


The position which the carefid and meth<idical 
QiKTard occupies in the French lii>rary is filled 
— lim}^o intv.rrallo — in <mi-s by AVatt and 
Lowndes: but. we still remain without a manual 
of referenee surh as that aflforded by Barbier. 
Tiiis leads nie to make the authorsliif> of the un- 
dernoted volumes the subject of a Query ; and to 
suggest that if, under such a heading as I have 
chosen, those possosed of such infi>rmation would 
spontaneously contribute it, a valuable nucleus 
mitrht be formed for a future dictionary, — a work 
wliieh I believe would nut be ill-received by the 

The Knijlish Spy; an orii;inaI work, charocteristie, 
s-itirical. and humorous 5cc. Hy Ueruard Blackinantle.* 
2 voN. 8vo. Lon:Ion, I8i«. 

Mi)iiiiMitH iif Iilloiii'ss or a Peep into the World we call 
"ours." LondiMif I'iiiitt.. 1833. 

Walter; tir a Si-cmd l*cep, &c. By the same Author. 
London, TJino., 1835. 

Tho K-lM>llion of the nonets, or the .\!«s is dp.idl I^tng 
live the Ass! ! ! Hy a laU^ Fellow of St. John's ColIcgSb 
CamUridne. London, J. & U. U Hunt. I'imo. IH-J5. 

Delicin; Litemria;; a new vuluine of Table Talk. 
London, I'iino. 18t0. 

The Cigar. 2 vols. 12ino. 

^Ae tbi'ixi of the Meld h oburged f 


{^ Gharlei Moltoy Wi 


Fis. la 1855.] 



Tht Ereiy Night Book. By the Author of The Cigar. 

The Fourth Estate; or the moral effect of the Press. 
BjT a Student at Law.* Loadon, Uidgway. 8vo. 1839. 

WiLLtAM Bates. 


P. $. — The above Queries were transmitted to 
"X. & Q.** biffore the app«?arance of the paper on 
the " Iiltintifioaiion of AimnTmoud Biwks* Vol. xi., 
p, 59. I have only t» adil that i entirely coincide 
with the remarks a{>[>enile'l by our Editor, and 
look forwanl with mmrh interest to the devi'lop- 
ment of the plan which he has in contemplation. 


(Vol. xi., p. 23.) 

The Ciiizen of the Worlds letter cvi., speaks of 
his havinir, after long liiruhration, devis(.Ml a rao- 
thotl ** by which a man nii-il:t do himself and his 
deceasei] patron justice, without being under the 
hateful reproach of selt-eonviction,** and gives his 
€legy *^On the Death of the Hight Hon. ....," 
IS a sp *cira'?n of a poem " in which the fl ittery is 
perfectly fine, and yet th*? p'>'r pcrtet-tly inno- 
cenr.** Tnough Gol l:<fnirii mar ha the tir^t who 
adopt'Ml the expedient in elei^iao p")etry, yi't this 
compromise bv>tween truth and tlnttery had been 
made in amatory vi^rse before his lime, as the 
following lines will si to a*. 

The terminations of two or three of the stanzas 
seem to be taken from old ballad.^ that of the 
thinl especially bcin*^ a part of a song, of which 
all that i reni<..'mbcr i:(, thut i:s wit was of the very 
coarsest kind. 

To his Mlsfrett, 
" U love, who«^; p.>wt.T .ind ml^cbt 
No:io ever ytt wilhsto kI, 
Tlirtu lurce^l inw to write, 

Cnnu turiit' nlfutt Ro' in ITo-jd. 
" So!'? mi.*tro*s ut" my rf»!, 
L"t mne thi« t'lr prMume, 
Tu in.ikf th'.s lull. I ro'i'ii*-!, 
A black ]h itch for th: rhunv. 
•* Yuur tr*-.<.d tiiu'ly wrnic^ht. 
Like to a ^rnUlen sn iro, 
My n\\\y iieart halii «-nu:^ht. 
As M'"ft il'tl cutcfi /iM m.ire. 
••Wh:it U'l I w.iuM n'»t «liifi 

T.> i»i!r«-!»a-i" on** K" 'd .*m:lc? 
Di'l in«v t.» i.'hiii i g-K*, 

Anl rU *tnnd *iiU the while. 
" I kri'iw y* I •.hrill dye. 

I.oveic) my heart liewitches; 
It iii:ik«*rt me'.- hfurly cry. 
Oh hiiw mtf tUntv itvhts. 
•• T»'ar.-« wte oreflow mv sijrht 
With w.iv«.4 of daily we*'ping. 
That in the raretull ni:;hC 
/ tnkt MO Tttlfar sleiping. 

[• Freilerkk Knight UunL] 

** But since my simple merrit<i 
Her loving looks must lack. 
Come I'lieer my vital spirritts 
U^ith clarrt teinc aud Mack. 

** And i*inre that all reliefe 

Anil comfort doth forsake mee, 
ril h.-mg myselte for ^rsetV*, 
And then the IJeritl take mee.''* 

I forbear to cjipy '• her aunswere," which has 
neither wit nor delit-ai-y. 

Who is the author of (he following graceful 
lines ? 

" \Vrnn5 not, deare empress of my heart. 
The merit oi* true p :ls^illn, 
By tltinkini; hee can teele mi smart. 
That i«ii<*.<« tor no cum|i.iAsiun. 

** For since that I -W «ae to «rve 
A s.iint of "iii-h perftvtion, 
Whi»me all d-^-ire, yul none deserve 
A plai-e in her atlVctiMn, 

" IM rather t.hiwe to w.inle releife. 
Til. -in h'i7,:ird y« revealini; ; 
Where ::lory re-ommi-iids v ijreefe, 
Dirfpare (iis-fuades v' hi-.i1ing. 

** Sinre my de^ire-t iloe aime too high 
For any mort ill lovi.-r. 
And reason i-aniiot m ike them ilye. 
Discreiion «hall them cover. 

*• Silence in love doth >how more woe 
Than wonls ihouuh none 60 witty. 
The lieif^ar that i> dunib, you kiiowe, 
Desirrvi-th double pity.*'' 

Polperro. Cornwall. 

T. Q. C. 


The Alinnnnvh rot/al de France, which 1i:ls been 
briefly des«Tii)tMi on a late oi-ca-icm, <leserves a 
separate noti*; and our alliance with France, an 
event at whirh I heartily rejoice, rcc(»n»m«'ti'is this 
voluminous f'cries to the ke«;:M.>rs of public li- 
braries. A few !itr:iy vidnnirs of it are as much 
as we ever meet with in private cidleetions. 

Brnnet omit'* this import an r nublii-ati«>n, and so 
d«>cs Ebert. I proceed t«» ilcscribe it in the words 
of a well-informed writ t: 

«• L\4lmnna.h rofful de France, un des plus aneiens et 
des phi«t utiles reinonte :i I'annee I'iT'.i oil il re^ut ses 
premieres lettres de privie^e. Son contenu se IxTiiait 
alor.'i au raiendrier proprenient dit. h rpielques obscn*a- 
tinn* snr ien phases de la hine, ii rinilicat!0u des jours de 
depart <leA courriers, des fcies du palais, des prinei pales 
foires et des villes oil ron battait monnaie. On y ajouta, 
depuis 1G99, les naisMnces des princes et princesses de 
TEui-npe, le clergtf de France, IVpea, la robe et la financcL 
Au'ounrhui on y tronre to tablera oflcid da tou taa 
principanx employ<^gt Mat dMttiwuwiww OiaiigBii 

teN qia'ils aont reeon n aa par la 
agrandi, il exoMa d^^ BiUa fagm fl%a 
J. II. SciuinxLn, IBSflL 

It must be wldwl, ia 
portanoe oC " 





of it are authonsedi by Uttres de priail^e^ to collect 
such inforniation as maj be re<]uirc<l to complete 
it parttmt ou hesoin »era. It is the authenticity of 
its information which {rives it so peculiar a claim 
on the attention of historians and biographers. 

There was a set in the choice collection of the 
late M. Armand Bertiii, rddocteur en chef du 
Journal den debats^ which collection was sold at 
Paris last year. It is thus entered in the sale- 
catalogue : 

•* 1679. Almanachs royaux. Par'a, 1700 ^ 1846, 145 
vol. in«8, reli^ en maroqnin vclin ct veau, la pluiuirt avec 
arteoires. Cbliection curieute et rare." 

I shall conclude with two Queries. 1. Was the 
above set purchased for the Briti:(h Museum ? 
2. What are the deticieucies of the Museum set ? 

Bolton Cornet. 

Miliar fiotti. 

Former Power of the Turks, — At the present 
time, the following passage from the letters of 
Bushcquius, ambassador trom Ferdinand II. to 
the Sultan Sulyman II., may interest the readers 
of "N. & Q." I extract it from tlie Loungers 
Comnum- place Book^ the name of the author of 
which I should be ^lad to know.* The biogra- 
phical artiohfs are frefjuently very curious, and 
prove the author to have had an extended literary 

" When I compare the powor of the Turks with our own, 
I confeos the ctmsideration (ilU mo witii anxiety and diji- 
may, and a ntron;; conviction forces itself on* my mind 
that we cannot loni; resist the dostrurtion which 'awaits 
us; they possess immeuise wealth, stren^^th unhroken, a 
perfect knowledge of the art of war, patience uruler every 
difficulty, union, order, frugality, and a constant state of 

•* On our side, exlnusted finances and universal luxury, 
oar national spirit broken bv repeated defeats, mutinous 
soldiers, mercemiry otticcr*. licentiousness, intcmpenince, 
and ft total contempt or neglect of militar}' discipline, till 
ap the dismal catalogue. 

**Is it ]io«(siblo to doubt how such an unequal conflict 
most terminate? The enemy's forces being at present 
directed a>;.iinst Persia, only suspends our fate; after 
subduing that power, the all-conquering Mussulman will 
rush with undivided strenprth and overwhelm at once 
Europe as well as Germany.*' 

H. W. D. 

Dr. Uouthy President of Magdtilen College. — 
Dr. Rouih, the late learned President of Mag- 
dalen College, Oxford, was born before the Seven 
Years' war liad bfgun ; before Clive conc^uered 
India, or AVolfe bought with his bhN)d Canada ; 
before the United States ever thought of being 
an independent country, or Poland was dismem- 
bered. He was M. A. and Fellow of that Society 
when Gibraltnr underwent its memorable siege. 
He was past fifty years when Sir Arthur AVel- 

[• By JenauMb WbitMker Newman.] 

lesley sailed for Portugal. The last of the Stuarte 
was not dead when Routh wa.H a boy ten veara 
old. He was president before the French Revo- 
lution broke out; he had known Dr. Leigb, 
Master of Buliol, Addison's cotemporary ; had 
seen Dr. Johnson scrnmbling up the steps of Uni- 
versity C<>llege; talked with a lady whose aunt 
had seen Charles II. walking in '*the parks** with 
his donrs ; hc pcrstiadcd Dr. Seabury to seek con- 
secration from the Scotch bishops ; he died 
Friday, Dec. 22, 1854. 

Mackenzie Walcott, M. A. 

Strange typographical Error, — In a copy of 
Jolin.xoirs tragedy of Irene^ which I bought many 
years ago, one of the characters has to address 
Mahomet 11. thus : 

" Forjrive, great Sultan, that, by fate prevented, 
I bring a tardy message from Irene." 

Tlie unlucky printer forgot the e in " fate," and 
gave it : 

** Forgive, great SulUn, that hyfat prevented," &c 
leaving it to be inferred that the honest mes- 
senger was too corpulent to reach his royal master 
in time to save the heroine's life. 

Alfred Godfbit. 
14. Canonbury Square. 

Exchange of Brasses. — The inability to obtun 
anything like a goml series of brasses by inde* 
pendent exertion is felt by all amateur collect on. 
I would suggest that all |)cr8ons who are willing 
to exchange rubbings of brasses from their own 
neighbourhood for others more remotely situated, 
I should unite together. 

I wouhl held each party responsible for the 
j brnsses within a radius of, say five miles from hit 
; or her address (I must not omit the ladies). 

Manning's List, anil a map of Kngland, would 

then only be required. The Editor of ** N. & 

Q." would, I am disposed to think, publish the 

: addresses ; if not, the expense of printing would be 

j merely nominal. 

In the absence of an abler hand, I should be 
I willin:; to arrange the materials. The above plan 
' is only recommended for simplicity and economy 
I of space in printing, and any farther suggestiona 
' will be received with thanks. Hbmbt Moodt* 

Bury School. 

i The Euxincy or Black Sea. — The following 

■ note of Wells on the 151sr. verse of the Perie- 
gesis of Dionysius, explains the origin of the 

. name Pontus Euxinus : 

i ** Pontus* Kar iioxn*^ antiquis dictus est, tanqonB 

Mare Maximum, et quasi Oceanus alter: sed et Armrngf, 

I hoc est, inhosnitabllis olim dictus est, sive ob maris tn^ 

■ bulentiam et importuosa Iittora,8ive ob barbaroa / — '-* 

* Ovid. DritL IV. 4. 66. 

t PoljbL nr.8. 

Fkb. 10. 1855.] 



in cjiii li)' f tat 

idu €4t, ni-< «•/ « . 'viiL 

*■ Emxmmfcdm mondm didua tuit^* " 

In ibe Penny Cifclop,^ art. Br^AciL Sei, this eat- 

ilnnntiVm is called unsatisfactof j ; but the writer 

rial* I Imve borne in miii'I, that Europe, Aiiii, 

Ifricn, and even Americaj are name* <»f Greek 

rijsin, as well as the Euxmc Thm Ttirk^ Arabs, 

_ lus^tan^ French, Germans, an«l EtttrlJali designate 

-It the Black Sea — prmbablj? Jrom it^ itoruiy 

<harAi-t*!r. T. J. Bccktok. 


CampbeS*i Pb^mt. ^ 

Of' bore; 


The last line of the above extract h rcfjcated 
hj the prK?f, in almmt the stame words. In hU 
^ Joined on leaving a Scene in Bavaria :" 

"•Te*! I have lovH the- wild nbcxi**, 

Unknoirn, nnplotitrird, utitrtuMen whore: 
WhcTf fienrcc the wroo4min finds a fond. 
And 9CArce the fisher pH«« an oarj 
JW fMa'ff mgieci I hve tket mart.*' 


■m. — Our inn?ite patriottsm^ now 
[ii3*5t^rioui*lj-kiiitted "conifnrters/* 
in the winfer campaijrn of 1760. 
I *»rOIour»e«ter has an advertisement 
TpJiper (Jonritttl, No. 1949,, 17fiO) ofTantt^ 
** a warm flannel wn^teo^U to anv volunteer, to 
^lerenit him a^ituit the inclemenc/ of the approach - 
vttf «eptson,** B. C, Wards. 

7nWf,** ^— Thii word, now In romnion n^e, is 

ived tix»ili the Iristi go lettr, i. r. in aiHimdjince. 

Aif OiroRD B. C. L. 

Oreaiioii of a Baronettn. — Tlie fc»llowinj5 is a 
nils invanee of the creation of a baronetess in 

I ri^ht, wliieh i^ rerorded in the la**t pa^ 

nf the Gentlrmnns \fngnzinf for the vear 1754, in 
the lift of *♦ Forei^rtieW wbn have re*'e*v»*d the 
Dignity of En;;li«h riarnn'rts from otir Kings ;** 

** Creatwl hy Kinfj Jttini4 II. 

• St^t. fl K.8G. ComeliiiJ Sr»fWm«n» «f the United 
P far lm c^ a Gurieral «»' i\\m SutM oT Hotl«ad| with a 
flpaeul «t«i(i«« to tkt GtMTifi moihtfuf th§ rmtkmitd tiUf 



I fend you some extracts from a MS. rhrotiidc 
of Eniilijih hbtorj^ in hope* that jou will inform 
rae whether you, or any of your readers, recognise 
tliem us coming from any known history. 

The MS, W small folio, and be<iins : ** In yc 
year fro ye beggmning of ye worlde 3990» yer 
was in ye noble lond of Greece a wort hi kyr»g," 
And ends : ** The Wennesday next aft' uppon the 
moraw, Edicarde^ the noble Erie of Ma rub, was 
chosen kyoj^ in the cyte of London, and began for 
to rejgne," &c 

From cap* xlL : 

♦♦ yis Coi»8t;intyn (the Great) first endowed ye 
Chirohe of Rome with poasessions. And thanne 
yer was a voys yberd above in yc cyr yat sade yus, 
Hodie in/uMum est venent'i in eccHd 'dei ** (in margin 
fiotn bene)' 

Kin:; John is said to havt died % paitmn. His 
** Let Uir obiigatortf to ye Pope of Koxne ** is givea 
at full length in EaglUh. 

From cap. cvii. : 

"... Maiater Robert Grostet, bisshop of Lin- 
coln . . • because ve pope h.idde provid«.*d his 
nevew yt was a ehild to a curid benefice . - . ye 
said Robert wolde ni>t admittx^, and wroot fl;reea 
to ye p>pe, yat he wold not, nc owed not admittc, 
eny suche to have cure and rewle of soulej chat 
eowde not rewle tlieymaeli^ ne understand ye 
English tun^e ; i¥ here fore ye said Robert was » . . 
ocursid^ and he appelid fro ye pope*5 court to ye 
court of hevene. And sone after ye said Robert 
dcide acursid ; and ii yecr after bis derh, he ap- 
pend lik a bt^shop to ye pope as he lay in bis bed, 
and saide. Surge miter rem ad jndida .... 
And with yc ]»ricke of his bisshoppiii staf he 
pritiked ye pope . . unto ye hcrte, and in ye 
morow ye p*^pe was founde ded .... And be- 
cause ye said Kobert deide acursid notwitiif^tond- 
intj , . . miracles, yc court of Rome will not 
FuflVe him to be canonized." 

From cap. cxlvi, : 

(/9) " Henry TV. as a defence for having piit 
the Archbishop of Tork to deaths sent to the pope 
the 'habertreon yat varchbisshop was armed ynne 
with these word IS : Pater vide si tunica hoc sit Jilii 
/Ml an non* And ye p>pe answerde .... Sive 
hac mU tumeajUii mri an non scio quia /era pessima 
devoravtt ^ium mevm,'* (6th of llenry IV.) 

From the same r ha pier (3rd of Henry IV.) : 

TL trru supposed In be still alive: 
•rye covent of Aylcnbnry 
iciuld a fnre of ye same 



[No. 276. 

and he saidc to him, ' Thou hast herd jat kjng 
Richard is alive, and art glad yereof'?' Ye frere 
answerde : ' I am an glad as a mnn is glad of ye 
liff of his friende, for I am holdcn to him . . .* 
Ye kyng saide : * Thou host noised and told 
opcnli yat he livith, and so thou hast excited and 
atirid the peple agens me/ Ye frere saide, * Nay.' 
Thanne saidc ye kyng : * Tc*ll me trouthe, as it is 
in thi herte, yf thou sawest kynnr Richard and me 
in ye feld Hghting togedir, v/* whom w oldest thou 
holdc ?' * Forsoth,' saide ye frere, 'with him ; for 
I am more beholde to him.' Thanne saide the 
kyng : * Thou woMf st yat I and alle ye lordis of 
my reme were ded?' Ye frere snide, *Nay.' 
* what woldest thou do with me,' saide ye kyng ; 
*yf thou haddest ye victory ovyer me?' Ye frere 
saide : ' I wolde make you duke of Lancaster.' 
'TIjou art not my friend,' saide ye kyng; *and 
yerefor thou shalt lese thin hed.' And thanne he 
was dampned . . . ." 

Other interesting conversations follow on the 
same subject. But I have already to apologise 
for the length of this letter. Can you inform nie 
what my ciironicle is ; and also, whether such an 
one has ever been printed ? J. S. D. 


[The chromVlc would appear, at first sight, to be a 
Torsion of the ** Brut." It is obviously one deserving of 
farther examination; and if our corre^tpondent would 
•ntrust it to U9 for a short time, wo think we may pro- 
mise him a natinfactory report upon it. — Ed. " N. & Q."] 

> and the writer's opening remarks, which I tran- 
i scribe, contain the explanation to which I refer : 

" The title of the work which we here introduco to oar 

^ renders is taken, as well a.s numerous allusions in the 

body of the performance, from the celebrated pntirical 

play of the Duke of Buckingham, called Uic Iiehear$ai ; 

'. in which the principal dramatic writers of the age of the 

I Restoration were severely, but justly, ridiculed. The 

' hero of the Duke of Buckingham's satire is an ignorant 

' and bloated play- writer, called Buyes. This wretched 

\ and affected scribbler invites two friends to witness a 

, rehearsal of a new play which he has ju^t finisheii ; and, 

I as the rehearsal is proceeding, he entertains his firiend% 

by disclosing to them the rules by which he composed 

his plays. The following brief extract from the Duke*s 

Reheanaff will explain the design of Marvell in calling 

his work the Jithearsal Trafigjfjostdy as well as throw 

some light upon the charaetf-r of the ambitions eccle- 

si;istie whom the author has dubbed Mr. Bayes. Marvell, 

by this ingenious artifice, shielded himself ^rom the legal 

consequences which, in that age, the infuriated 

churchman might have brought upon him. Baytt says: 

^ * My first rule is the rule of transvem'tm, or regular 
; </M/}/ex;' changing vcr>e into prose, or prose into vcne, 
alternative as vou please. 

« * Smith. SVell, but how is this done by nUe, Sir? 

^ * Buyes, Why thus. Sir; nothing is so easy when 
understood. 1 take a book in my hand, either at home 
or elsewhere, for that's all one ; if there be any wit in*t, 
as there is no book but ha^* some, I transverse it : that is, 
' if it be prose, put it into verse (but that takes up some 
time) ; and, if it be verse, put it into prose. 

^* Johnson. Methinks, Sir. Baycs, that putting verse 
into prose should be called tramtp'rosinfj. 

" * Buyes. Sir, it's a very gooil notion, and here- 
after it shall be so/ " 



masvell's "xeiteaksal txatvsprosed." 

Is there an annotated edition of this witty and i 
learned production ? * The work is not infrequently 
spoken of as The Rehearsal Traiusposed, and two 
in.stances of this error are now before me. One 
occurs in vol. iv. p. -226. of Fh^tchcr's History of 
the Reviral and Progress of ludepemleucy in En^r- 
land (4 vols. I'Jmo., 184fi). The other is to be 
f.mnd in " N. & Q.," Vol. v., p. 513. As tlie hitter '■ 
is in a quotation, the orrormay probaoly be found i 
also, in the volume whence the p!iss;i;:c is taken. 
There is not^ I believe, in Mjirvt'll's pnges, any i 
explanation of the incnnin;: which he attiiclicd to ' 
the word " transprosed ;" but in bis day it would 
be so well understood as to neeil none. The best 
that has fallen in my wuy is to be found in the I 
Co-ufrrvfrntionnl Mrtfrazine for June, 18*21 (vol. iv. J 
p. 318.). Under the he:id of*' Literaria Ki-diviva, I 
or The Book-worm," MarvelTs work is reviewed ; ; 

[• There is a work, entitled A Oimmnn-pfacc Booh out 
of the " Rehejirsal Transprosetl,'* with tueful Notes, 8vo , 
Lontlon, 1073; but wc have never met with it. Alarvell 
seenis to have taken the title or hs work from the comedy 
of The Rehearsntf written by .Jithn Sheffield, Duke of 
Backin/rhMm, in revenge for the character drawn of him 
^ Dryden under the ctMncter of Zimrl ] 


The following; curious poem is copied from an 
ol<] MS. formerly in tin' possession of one of the 
cathi'drnl di(;nitaries, and there is good reuf^on for 
believinrr that it has never appeared in print. If 
any of the Headers of ** N. & Q " can give me any 
information as to the author or the circum^^tancci 
to which it refers, I should esteem it a verv (!reat 
favour. The original MS. is indorsed "Wells 
Procession, 1716.'* 


In a Letter to Sir Will. W—d^m. 
*• In eiffhtv-.six, when tri<kslors nil'd Ihe State, 
And t0(»i3 of Rome in Aroii''* chair were sett, 
Whi'Ti ^jvc processions mareh'd in solenm {Hnnp, 
Ami brawny Jej«uits lampoon VI the rump; 
Fine sights thorc^ were, that pleavd the ^riddy mob; 
Each prit.>t was then adorM as njuch as G — <l ; 
And justly tOi>, for ever>* man must own. 
If Levitcs can make prods, their work's their own : 
Yet their processions, nnd their noise of bella, 
Were trifles all compar'd to ours at Wells, 
Where Querpo march \l in state, and sable drest. 
Mounted on Horner's ste«d above the rest, 
Attended by oar rake-hell lillv white. 
Who loudly roar*d, * Tm for the Churches right!* 

Feb. 10. 1855.] 




A brave stipp4>rt (I think) ; we must do w«U» 
Since our ptKid Charcli hxA stole a prop from hell ; 
For faitli I he %tire wa3 m black aa ink, — 
1 took him for a dfvil by hi^ stink, 
in hi» rif^t hincl he held a branch of hirch» 
With it (i.iyi he) Til sweep our Mother Church, 
Afier him niarLlf J three w*frthk!9 of tho go\fa, 
Whoc9e ho[ic>ty to all the West is known, 
Except ihu VVhiga, who »ny tliat they havo none 
Att'l WK niMi&Ti that college plate h^is paid 
For man}' hearty lueuls Cremona maH<.i« 
That dome Wella fcholarii to their cost ean leH 
How, chapman like, youngs Whackum hooka ir*d Bell; 
Tniii(|uiUo might hare put in tile ace here, 
H*J ifiuile^t iJone contamM another year- 
Then foltoiv*tl all the rabble of the town 
With hideous noiae;, declaring they were Dound. 
Sly Qucr|H), findmi^ how thty were inclined, 
PnH:l*»ims a lialt, and thus dedir'd hia mind: — 
•Townfiinen and lovers, partaer^ in my woe I 
Tia true our tau«c ii sunk, and hopes so low, 
Thut I'm become 4o faint I scarce can upeak. 
Of a bad mirkett we must make the b«it; 
W«*n nc»ae the Whig* and bravely ra»*c our rrett. 
Thoti|?h we at Prefttrm and elsewhere are foiTd, 
Though a septenniall act mir medsures i^ipoil'd, 
Thou^rh last November fili'd us all with pain, 
Civiolwr jK>w shall raise our spirits again. 
I I^etirnM Thomas ia retnni'd in healtli to Well^ 

J Utir James ia safe at Rome (huzza !>» Ihea riag the 

^^ Minor Cftueriri* 

f 7^e tifmf Begtif and Br id port " Domesd!atf " and 

\ **Dtfm Bmfkt.'' — These am ieiit volumea nre kno^rn 
untler ibe above titles. The lutter has entrtea, U 
is stated, of tbe rei;»n of Henry VI. 

The Lyme Re^ns Domesday^ calleil also 7^f 
Brttad liooky is u pnnderotiM volume to wliit!li 
]i](ii!$iniiK, in reference to i^ntnes therein, are fre- 
qut-niiy iiiHfle in the reiijn of Queen Etizabetti* 

Tbif* MS T^tlnme is !*upnnsed to have been sent 
to the late Mr. Deun, a sulieitor, livinrr in Guilford 
Street, at rhe tim^* of a law -suit about the yeiir 
1828. Mr. Iie;in died suddenly, and the volume 
bna not been seen for years. It has been bi'ard of^ 
and, as i;* b«liev»»d, wn!« olfered for sale. It is the 
property of the Town C^mneil, who suceeeded the 
for HUT oornoraiion. The Mayor of Lytne Re^is 
wouhl be ^ilatl of an answer to ihiK Query : Who 
can iiive any infurwalion respecting thi^ Domet- 
day Book f 

The Mayor will thnnkfullT treat for the above, 
to be repliiecfl in the andiives* The late Mr» 
George Smith wa?« town clerk at the time of tbe 
law-suit l»«;|ure aljtideil to. 

Gkokgk Robeats (Mayor of Lyme K^is). 



Turhixh EtnhUmatieal Tlawer. — lias Turlcey 
an ettdileiiiftt'c flowt»r, a< Eiii^land has the rose, 
id Ireland the aliainruck ? If so» what w it ? 

J, J. W. 

Value of Money in 1653.— Can any corre«p<m- 
dent inform me of the value of a p<j»und sterling 
in the year 1653, as compared witb the value of a 
pound sterling in 1855 : adopting aa the stimdard 
of value ihe price of a quarter of wheat, or of an 
ox, or of any other important commodity in the 
country ? G, N, 

Her. Boger Dale.^I should feel greatly obltged 
to any of your readers who could furnish rae with 
nnj paniculars relating to the Rev. Roger Dale, 
hi» family connexiona, and the various prefi&r* 
menta he held ? Mr, Dale was appointed curate 
of Denton, in the parish of Manchester, in ]b79; 
which he resiffnerl in 1691 fur that of Northcn, or 
Northenden, in Cheshire. J. B, 

Quotations wanted. — 

Who ifl the author of the ^'Eveaiog Hymn" com- 
mencing — 

" Sooa aa the cTaalng alar, with tilvcr my," &c ? H, 

Clifton* g| 

« The heart may break, yet brokenly live on." F. M.E. 

** Earth has no aorrow which heaven eannot heal " 

J. iL A. B. 

^ Which maidens dream of when they muse an love.** 
Whence? R. V. T. 

•*, . . . atrcw'd 
A baptism o*er the flowers." 
Whence? B. V. T. 

What Christian Father wrote this, and where? 

** Creavit angolus in ccelo, vennicuios in terra; non 
superior in isiis, non inferior in illis.'^ A Natlu^^list. 

" Romance of the Pyrfnees^* ^c. — Who was 
the aulhor of The liotnance of the Pyreneen, 
Stmcto Sebostiano, Adelaide^ The Forest of ,\font- 
alhanoy and Rombella^ romanees published 6fty 
years ago, and popular in their day ? Ukiida, 


Lnehy Birdi. — There is an ancient custom in 
Yotk shire, and I presume it is more or leas general 
throiijjbont Enjrlund, of having a bov to enter 
your house farly on Christ mas and New Tear*s 
Duy; and this boy is called a lucky bird* Now 
cnn yon inform nie the dote and orf^iii of this 
custom? why a black- kuird boy is tim vera ally 
preferred P and why he is culled a lucky bird ? 

R. B. 


CnrdimVs rid Hoi. — In the Historia Liierttria 
of Cave, Ihe author savs of the Svnod of Lyons in 
1245 (1243 ?) : " In this synod, if I w*v*.W ;^v»v 
the reil hat, aa a %\^ q^ iJcwa ^^^\V3 «R^ vi'ax^^xxx^^ 



[No. 278. 

was first instituted.** In the Supplement to the 
same work, Il(enry) W(harton) sajs Paul 11. 
(1464) was the first to make the grant. *'If I 
mbtake not,** Cave is right. Paul added the pal- 
lium or cloak, and Gregory XIV. made some other 
alterations. B. H. C. 

Archbishop Leighton, — The Rev. J. N. Pearson, I 
in his sketch of Uie above prelatc*s life, mentions < 
that — 

*' There is still ia existence a humorous i>oem on T>r. 
Aikonhead, Warden of the College (at Edinburgh), which 
I^ghton wrote when an undergraduate. It evinces a 
good-natured playfulness of fancy, but is not of a merit 
that calls for publication.*' 

I doubt not many of your readers would, 
nevertheless, agree with me in thanking any one 
who has access to this document^ by bringing 
it to light through your pn^cs ; provided it be of 
reasonable dimensions, and unpublished by any 
other biographer. If even one of the Jurenilia 
l|Of Leighton should prove to be without merit, the 
greater would be its literary curiosity. 

C. W. Bi:fGHAM. 

Marriages decreed hjf Heaven. — What is the 
origin of this saying? I find that the opinion 
prevails among the Chinese. I have also met 
with it in the writings of Dieterich, a Lutheran 
divine who wrote early in the seventeenth cen- 
tury. B. IL C. 

Greek '•^ Datice of Flowers,'^ — Where is the 
best account of this ancient dance? On what 
authorities do the moderns found their descrip- 
tions? Did similar dances obtain nmong other 
nations, either of old or to-day ? A. Challsteth. 

Theatrical Annonncements. — Can any of the 
readers of " N. & Q.** inform me whi»n the custom, 
now universal among the <laily papers, originated, 
of placing the theatrical announcements of the 
CTening*s performances immediately preceding the 
leading articles ? I should also like to know the 
rationale of the custom in question, and whether 
the notices are considered as advertisemonts, and 
paid for accordingly. H. W. D. 

"i4^ fti, quisquis erw,'* ^'c. — Dr. Johnson has 
prefixed to the 41st number of his Idler (the 
paper on the death of his mother) the following 
not very appropriate ver.nes. Can any of your 
readers tell me whence they are taken ? 

" At tu, quisquis ens, miscri qui crnda poetos 
Credideris fletu funera di^a tuo, 
II»c postreina tibi sit flcndi causa, flnntquo 
Lenis inoflfenso vitaquc morsque gradu.*' 

Some of the editions have given them to Ovid, 
but I cannot find them anywhere in the works of 
that poet F. W. 

^iturr €iutriti foitfi 9nADfrtf. 

Bight Rev, Charles Lloyd, D.D,, Bishop of 
Oxford. — Can any of your correspondents furnish 
rcminiitcences of this prelate, who was also Regiuf 
Professor of Divinitj at OxfonU and prematurely 
removed by death m 1829? Have any notes of 
his Lectures on the Book of Common Prayer ever 
been published, or could you be the medium of 
collecting some of their disjecta membra from 
among your readers ? 

Dr. Lloyd was, I believe, the first Professor for 
many years who gave private lectures in addition 
to his formal prelections on the<ilogy, when ap- 
pointed in 1822. The announcement of them 
create<l a sensation at the time; but, from cir- 
i-umstances, it was not my happiness to have heard 
them. I may mention one happy sugirestion of 
his, viz. that the versicle, towards the end of the 
Litany — "O Son of David, have mercy on us," — • 
had aJways appeared to him to be incorrect, and 
not agreeable to the meaning of the first com- 
pilers of the fornuilury ; inasmuch as our Saviour, 
after His ascension, was never invoked with re- 
ference to His ancestor according to the flesh. In 
the course of our examination of some ancient 
MSS , or editions of the Liturijies to which our 
own is indebted, the correspond! nir invocation was 
fimnd written contractedly, "O fili D. viv." (i.e. 
Dei vi vent is), in such a way that a hasty glance 
might lead a copyist to transcribe it as ** O fili 

Bishop Llovd was son of the Rev. Thomas 
Lloyd, who died at High ^yycombe in 1815* 
having h«'ld the n^ctory of Aa ton -sub-Edge, CO. 
Gloucester, from 1782. Balliolbxsu. 

[Our correspondent i^ probably aware that Mr. Palmer, 
in nifl Oriqinen Liturgicttj made fu)me use of Bishop 
Lloyd's liturgical nnicn. In his pn'face ho states, ** That 
the' late Bishop of Oxfonl (Dr. IJoyd) was ao convinced 
of the exiHfdiency fof having:; the Kii^lish Offices in their 
ori<;innl lani^uaii^ps], that he was himsolf collecting mate* 
rials for the purpose, whirh he intended to puhlish as 
soon as his avocations should permit. His lonlship's od- 
lections were entered on the marcjin of a folio Prayer 
Book, in the libriry ^ivcn by Dr. Allestree for the use of 
the Regius Profeswr of Divinity in this university [Ox- 
ford] ; and havinp: been kindly permitted to compars 
them with the results of my own invcfitigntions, I hava 
derivefl from th(>m Meveral valuable o>>ser%'ations, which 
are<twle<lffe<l in their proper places." In a note Mr. 
Palmer adds. *'! have been informed that hia lordship 
delivered several private lectur^^ entirelv on this topie, 
to a cla^s of theological students in this univenit/.'* 
Some passing; notices of these private lectares, deUverad 
in 182C, will be found in Fronde's RemainM^ vol. L fipw SOL 
3!>. 47, 48. ; but the lectures have never been printed. Im 
182.'), Dr. Lloyil edited for the Clarendon Press the fhiaiB 
larien of Faitht put forth by authoritv during the rriflt 
of Henry VIH. In 1827 he pubHnhed a raviaod and M- 
lanred cxlition of the Sglhjft (h^fesmmuim g and la ItSM 
produced a very correct and elegant edltioa af 
Gndk Xew TVifaiMiif, (br tha nia of Jmdor ^^ 
students, which has been reprintad ia WO IP 


*EB. 10. 1855.] 



fjord rtl<»r> apVnf>iTlMi^fHl th« snitfinfihffi of nn 

\'m the Bri'' ' ' ' ' "^' .■.-.■... ,^ 

fooUccs of t' - 

rol. i, JK fi^. ; Annual Bit^tftj^tk^ nn*l Oifttmary^ 
. xlf. ft, 353.; and the GtnL 'Moy, for June, l&'/9, 

Paislrv Ahhfy. — On tbe altar wall of P&ialej 

' 'X sene* of sculptures are carred 

I whiteiTMbed over, refa«e to be 

o'bliterat^l. The seritis aeems to rudelj set forth 

tb-* lift* of a saint, at all eireiits an ecclesiastic, 

f -tiiUe to his grave In one a stream of 

J ;tith on bia bend as be pctvA some annats 

iii a Z^^jej,^. Paisley's ** Black Book'" is well known; 

couM this have any connexion with th<? snulpture? 

Z\i '!iis chapel there is also a tomb, which rurnnt»r 

JUS as rhe shrine of Mirjory Bruce; with 

vijjit authoritj ? and what is tbe biatnry nf the 



[This «»' 

V " ' ri Bl«An*3 

tOtnU'* of ' 

n account, 

puMr^ht*'! ; ' 

: the Antj- 

iiid, ¥uL tL |».irt ii. pp. 4>6 — 161. He 

irt*. fmm Ihf* fijriires in the ea«t end of 

' "^ ' ,iniroth«f work atwat 

fihI to a perioci prior to 

t fabric ; ami he adds 

■a the roun.Utioa charter, that a chur-h 

before that time/* In his account of 


1 _ — ,: 1 _. .i_. i.-.-,^^^^ i^g frtrming 


in the Patslev 


lime**, mother of 


jnt>u» conjectural in- 


Mx in. lo the votrime 


' ' r* ''-'rjtintitofthe 


m. Con- 

■Kc . 


T)^st,r,rioffigicai Qiiery. — In Barlm Adeerxaria 

'■! Rhennm, 1G72, are ponae notes on the 

: of Apuleius, in which it is states], that 

seem to have lost the art of assuming 

^ita forms, but that they sttU use ointments to 

them to flj. Sooie ex&mples are given ; 

: tbem is : 

^ Viri lenai* qai ab oxore ad aTnatorrm ejos videodum 
la cKtu tUmiitium in arenaria^ Bnrgadalenses ductus erat, 

U the mmrpn ^^ Binw. tU C M.*' is cited* As 
teteral of jour correspon^lents are learned in 
ddoomdo^, perhaps one may oh!ig« tne wiib tbe 
fiiets of the case, or tbe full title of the bonk so 
bridljr refiirred to* J* £. T, 

''tn el 

[Tbf! work 'Tuoted in the 
cotiiled Traetatua ile < 

\-^., WIS, Prir; 
cvf pwia, 41 is ii^*i» a|t|t«fer« hoiimiibttA^''J 

Marfy Et^iM mti Za£iii Orammur. — I ^bs^rre 
that ^<»it 111(1 jfmx eorrwpoiidenes are directing 

some attention to carlv works on education. A 
Yolume of EnelUh and Latin Grammar is now 
before roe, which I fmnd In the library at "Sl^X* 
ville, in Fifeshiref and which bears date 15^7 ; 
but whether it is rnre or not, I do not know. 
Neither the natne of the printer, nor the place of 
priming, is given. There arc two works. Tbe 
title of the first is thus : 

" A Short Introduction of Gntmmar c(vn«ra1ti« to bt 
tiled. Compiled and tet forth Ur ih« hringin*^ up of all 
those that iotend to attaiae tbe Kjiowlcdge of the Latin 

Below is this motto : 

«* [n time truth cometh to Ifght, and preraiTeth." 

with an engraving re presenting Time handing 
Truth out of a cave; and the words **cuni privi* 
Ic^o/' It contains 55 pa;:es. 

Tbe second part is of the same date, and con- 
tjiins 127 pa^es. The enjraving re presents % 
printing- press. It is entirely Latin, with this 
title, Brevissima Ithttitulio^ sfu ratio Grammaticea 
cognoscendfBy &c. It incliid<^s *' Propria quae mari- 
bus" and ** As in praisenti." 

These books may be finite common ; and if so, 
I have said enouffh to allow of their beinj» verifit'd* 
If rare, any question relating to them can be 
answered, W. L. M. 

[These works wtre printed hv H«rno1d Wolfe, th*» first 
who had a patent for b«ing printer to the king in \jkX\nt 
Grf»«k. ami Hphr^w. The fir*t <slilion of them is dated 
1.51'' ' ' ' ... RfHileian, bnt is not no- 

tic ho both speak of VVolfe't 

«dit: i>'nt*« copy i« probably Sn 

Bva ; if ^\ it h the rdri>«diLiaa« Both works h^ve boea 
frequently reprinted.] 

*'7\i raV* — What may have been tbe origin 
of this phrase as applied to any sudden and mer- 
cenary change in politics ? Anuni.. 

[This modem cant phraee oricnndted, no drmbr, from 
the Mgarily of rat« forwakiiiR ships not wc«ther-pro*>f It 
ia not only applied to tho^e who desert their political 
party from w>me mercenary motire, but li used in moft 
trader for those who execute work at less than the re- 
f:u!»r scale prices^ These imlividiials are hooted at and 
despised like rata.] 

^^ Domesday BnnV* — VJ'h&t h the precise deri- 
vation of Domesday Book f G. R, L. 

[Stow, AnnaJ$^ p. 118., 1631, tells us **Tho B'tf^ke of 

Bermftndtev saith thtt book was laid up in the Kings 

treaAurie (which wai in the chnn-h of Winchester or 

Weatmin»ter), in a place ratleil Domus Dei, or 6od*3 

house, and so the name of the booke therefore called 

Domms Dri, and rdnce, shortly, Dnmeada^.** The author 

of D'uitom* de Sctwcuria, however, givea the following 

' >ii of tbe name : ** Hie Hher ab indiffoni;* Dt^mf*' 

tpatur, id est, Diett J^ml'cn, j>er metaphorarn: 

.:._.+. r.t r.^^Hhilit iH>xamini4 illtu* noviMimi 

^rn* arte VJilet eludi ; sic, cum 

cio de hi* rebtt»<|aaj illic anno- 




[No. 276. 

mndem Ubrum Jmdiciarium nominavimiu ; non quod ab 
eo sicuL a nrje«lictn Jui.lii io non licet uIU rationc (Usee- 
dere." (Madox, ITiit Kecheg., edit. 4to., vol. ii. p. 398.) 
So Rurlborne, Anpf. Sacr. torn. i. p. 257. : •• Yocatua 
Dom^ifdsy; et vocatur sic, qaia nulli parcit, sicut ncc 
magnu.4 dies Jmlicii.** These <icrivationa are qaoted in 
Sir Henry Ellis^a General Introduction to Domadau Book^ 


(Vol. X., pp. 120. 137. 246.) 

The attack made upon Col. Lelimanowsky in 
the first of the above articles having been re- 
published in the United States, that gcntlc^man, 
who has been for many years a clergyman of the 
Lutheran Church in this country, has taken notice 
of it in the following letter to the editor of the 
Independent^ a religious newspaper published in 
the city of New York. Uneda. 


Letter from Colonel Lehmanowskjf. 

Hamburc:, Clark co. Indiana, 
Dec. 15, 1854. 

Mb. Editob of the Independent, 

A few days ago, a gentleman gave me to read 
an article, published in a London (England) pe- 
riodical, called Notes and Queries^ in which a writer 
eriticisHl my statement about the destruction of 
the Inquisition Chemastin, ne<ir Madrid, in Spain. 
In perusing this article, my first intention was not 
to take notice of it, and let it ])a*j for what it is 
worth. But yesterday, a friend of mine handed 
me your paper. The Independent^ in which my 
attention wa** drawn to an article signed "In- 
quirer." In said article I am called a "Polish 
refugee;" wherea-', th'i Polish refugees came in 
this country only in 1H33: whilst I came after the 
battle of \Vaterloo, in 1816, and have had the 
honour, since 1821, to be a citizen of these United 

S(»condly, the (rcntleman say.*? that in the year 
1814 the king of Spain rc-eHtablishcd the "In- 
quisition," and in 1820 ho or his frit'iid saw that 
massive building yet standing, and therefore I 
must have made a false statement about its boinir 
blown up. It seems tho learned srenileman thinks it 
needs to rehulM an " Inquisition " as long as it 
needed to builil St. Peter's at Rome, and in eleven 
years tlm-* it could not be rebuiid«?d, as it was blown 
up in 180f) by the troops under my <'ommand. 
May be, if the gentleman would go to Moscow, in 
Rud-iia, at the present tim'>, he will likewise say, 
Mos(K>w has never been hurntHl, and the Kremlin 
had never been blown up by powder in 1812, 
because, he would say, the houses are all standing, 
Bnd the ** massive ^* b'uildinira in the Kremlin are 
there, ^ 

I Thirdly, this kind gentleman says that Marshal 
Soult was not the Commandant of Madrid. Who 
I said so? not L My statement is, that Count 
I Mejoles was the Commandant, but Marshal Snult 
the Military Commander of the division, which 
not only occupied Madrid, but twenty or thirty 
miles round about Madrid. 

And now, Mr. Editor, I think I have done so 
far my duty in answering this very learned gen- 
tleman, who made the criticism in the Notes and 
Queries, But allow me to remark, that I cm 
astonished that any one should wait twenty years 
since my first statement, to correct the same. It 
seems to me that those who were always wishing 
to have this statement hushed up, waited untu 
they were sure Marshal Soult and Col. De Lisle 
were dead, and no doubt suspected Col. Lehma- 
nowsky was also numbered among the dead, so 
that thej may have free play ; but they are 

I will only add, as the Lord has blessed me to 
be nearly eighty- two years of age, they shonld 
wait a little longer, until they are sure that none 
are living who took part in the destruction of the 
" Inqaisition Ciiemnstin." 

In conclusion, let me inform you, Mr. Editor, 
that it is (with the help of Goil) my firm resolu- 
tion to write no more on this subject, as I am 
advanced in age, and can employ my time a great 
deal better to do the work (»f my Captain of Sal- 
vation, Jesus Christ, in preaching His Gospel to 
saints and sinners. 

I remain, with due regard, your obedient ser- 
vant, J. J. Lehmanowskt. 


(Vol. xi., p. 62.) 

I I cannot inform IIf.rmrs wliere Lord Derby 
' delivered the speoch in which Im Is saiil to have 
I qtioto'l the linos from M:inzf>ni's Ode to Napoleon^ 
I hut I know that his admiration of that o<)e dates 
from many years back. .\t Rome, in the yt-ar 
I 1821, when it was still in its fir.«t fame, and ft 
common topic of conversation, Lord Derby ex- 
pressed his hiiih opinion of its merits in the rora- 
p:my of English ladies, of whom one or two did 
not understand Italian, and wore a goml deal 
chagrined to be thus excludi»d from the plensare 
which its rcfitation appeai-ed to convey to the 
rest. Lord Derby took up the book and said, 
" Oh ! I will try to give you s<»me general nntioii 
of the matter of the poem; its fire and inspiratioQ 
will all evaporate in translation;** and with % 
wonderful rapidity he struck off an improvised 
paraphrase in En<;lish, which I well remember 
thinking, at the time, gave eameet of the talenii 
which his mmturer years hftve so splendidlj T 

** O qnante roTte, al Ucito 
Morir d' un gitimo inerti*., 
Cbiniiti i mi futminet^ 
hi brocdji al len conAerte, 
StettA — e dei d^ che furaao 
L' «aiftlte il mtivonlr. 

I iis not sure that tie trAn^Uteil the whole 
c* I never possessed a copy, but some [>;isma^*cs 
have remntned in my reeollei'tion, and thouo;fi the 
iDcident has prohtibly hm^z passed fr<»m the me- 
. oiorj of the (lii5tinjrui>hed author, I will vouch for 
k^ie eorrectiiess of mine for a stuoza or two. 


V "Hi 

*• E ripcnB^ le moblli 
Twiclfl, a percorsi vaiti 
E i campi dei manipoli — 
K r cmdA dd eavstti — 
E il concitato impt^rio — 
E il ceJcre obbedir." 

* Oft a» in 9fl«tice dosed Mmc listless day. 
His «yebaira lightning ray 
Iknt fin tho tumtiling flood, 
Whh folded aroij) he stood — 
And bitterlv he numberd o^cr 
The days thatlnad been ^ and that were no monei 
" He saw the qukk-atmck tents again — 
Tim hot assault — the battle plain ^ 
The troap« in martiiU pomp arr^y'd — 
The pealing of the (inillery^ 
The lorreni t-liarnf of cuvalry *— 
Tii« biirr»(^| vfitul 
In thunder heard — 
Heard — ttnd obey'd," 



(Vol X., pp, 453. 533.) 

When I was in Edinhwrorh in ]«2T-2, a itian of 
gentlrinflnly appearance an*! maniiera was nmvln^^ 
m good Circles, and went by the name of Pi nice 
Criintrary Cattygary, or Kiirlm Gberri Khatii 
Gherri, unU afterwards miinied a be* itch laily. 
But if she was thenceforward culled ** Sultann,*' it 
could only be in lest. T\\e prince was said ttv 
Itave been sent *o Edinburph for Jiis* education by 
the Emperor Alex antler. This also was pmbjjWy 
fiftid idly, it U-in*r well knciwn that no lluw/uoi 
aoialde could reside abroad without the Emperor* jj 

In Chtiinbers's edition of Clarke'g TroveU, p. $4., 
I find ihis note : 

** It wns here (Symplieropol) that KiittJ Gbcrri Krim 
Ghem rt-^idi'S. 1! ' '- -ndant of The Tnrhir Khnns ; 

ftnd buviiip bocoiji 1 wilh du* Siitth mimsion- 

aries at Cars-M in ti i^ hr vriis «rt«nt to i:ciin*.iirifh 

for etiutution. Here he jimiried . , . . . Dr Lyull viaitcil 
him in lK22i and desn-ribe^j htm and hi^SnlrnnN )»a hvjng 
Ita great bappinc*- * ... ii«_ <, ^^^j 

■ot snceeeile^l in 1 1 wit 

<T0Lii p.8y,), -\ ,„Hv 

axiiits amotigKt the Tariaj4, afui4U|^ hitm iu bmu^ pro-- 
ftsaed by the Kuasiaas." ^^ 

Clnrke gives a detdled atcouni of the Hnssiaa 
lntrigu^s in becoiuioij pouaes^ed of the Crimea. 
He »ays : 

•* It is well known tbnt, by the Inst treaty of p^ce vthkh 
Bu«^la nmde with tbv hirkA, pnur to the conqwcat of the 
l'er]in<iutA, Sfuthtn Ghirei, of the family of iho KhAtia, 
who liiid hfH'n a prisoner and a ho<trtge at Palersbarg, 
was placed: on the tlmnie of ibtj Crimctt.** 

Then follows his (Clarke's) account of the rlepo- 
siti>»n lUid nHHrrjible fate of fhts poor vietim of 
Ru^tdan petttdy ami »irjrres-inn. 

Th** note of your torfe>p<m<lent Ak^^t (VoL at., 
p. 53.1.) iiS5ume!« that the Qm^ry at p S'IPk is **the 
Snltan*s acoiint of hitnsL'lf " Surely rhtis ii* p**- 
tniroux. There inn Ft be scores of mi-n in Ed in* 
bnrgh who will be aide to verify the cirrunistances 
above i elated. It tj* pn!*!»ildi% but not very pro* 
bnble, thut the h»?ro of the »a!e may ha**** left ihe 
Rus^iim ten itury, and taken refuge in ibis country. 
He eatJiiot uow be very young. M. (2) 


(Vol. ix., pp. 38, 225.) 

By some ortj»innl nuperrt T am enabled to con- 
firm (he arf'urnry of llmt purt of Mr, O, drey's 
letter Ml bis Kroiber Dr Zufhaty Grey, y*'ur or- 
res[Mii)ilerii C, ok D. quotes fiom NiiholsV £'/rrflrv 
Anecditttfn in one of yo«ir recent Numl^ers, whle-h 
stJites J hat tht'fe were three widow Mihonw there 
(j. e. Nantwicii) The three pers^ons idbideil to 
were: — I, Mdton ihe poet's widow, who is first 
traced to thai tt>wn in the year 1688. 2. The 
widow of u Mr. Iluiiipbrey Milton, iin attr»rney 
and a frechihhr th»Te, And 3. The aunt of 
Dr. Grey and hi.-t brother. But as respects' I be 
time of tliu deaih of Miltikn*a widow mf^niioned by 
Mr. Grey, it has already been shown by one or 
two of your able eoritrilauiors, thrif she died in 
1727. attd not in t7''^0— the year in which be tiaes 
ber denth to have lJik*'n ]uace ; and a reeenily 
fii'-covcred invetitMry »ud }ip[ir*ii-cment of her 
effects, tnken by Mr. John Allrnrk, I he acting 
e.\eeut(.T of her will, on Au^ii^t 20, 1727» pre- 
Pfrved with her ori«iiii«l will proved nt Che^^ler on 
October lOih in the same ye<ir, \)uXa the matter be- 
yontl alt douht ; inji^n»ut h iis it ►hiiws (but her dig- 
soliiliiiti must luive tM.M'urred between the dfitea of 
ber wdh tbe i'tind of Auirufit. «nd the inventory 
the 2fJih of the same month, 1727; a^d most ]>ro- 
bably on the very d*ty lier will beors date, j^J^dnr- 
injf from the extremely sbfvrt interval between ibe 
two ilates. The fletMils of the invenfory I i<aye 
referred to, abo a>»sii*i in iden»if)i»ig the testatrix 
iis bring tlie pi^et'^ widow, if nny fnrther endenee 
on ihat head was* re<|ui!«i(e« This doennoot will 
he lottked upon as infercatingi when it it* known 
iliAi it deacribea wiib tUa ^r^at^a^ tui&uteiie&s, not 



[Na 276. 

only all the old lad/s household ffood^ but like- 
wise the whole of her wardrobe ; the value of each 
article being placed opposite thereto, and, on 
running over the items, I think I may safely 
hazard an opinion, that she took with her on 
leaving London a few of her husband's movables. 
The inventory is comprised in seven common law 
folios, and aflords a curious specimen of the man- 
xipr in which habitations occupied by persons in 
Mrs. Milton*s station of life were furni:»hed at that 
period, and of the apparel she was accustomed to 
wear. The following are some of its most attrac- 
tive items : " A large Bible," estimated at 8*. ; 
"two books of Paradise,* at IOjt. (I must leave 
your readers to form their own judgments on the 
probability of these books being Miltoifs own 
-copies of his Paradise Lost and Regained) ; " some 
old books, and a few old pictures," at 12*.; ** Mr. 
Milton's pictures (unquestionably his portraits) 
and coat arms," at 10/. 10*. ; "two teaspoons and 
one silver spoon, w* a sealaniX stopper," at 12*. 6rf. ; 
" a ^;^crshell knife and fork, w"* other odd on<?s," 
at \s. ; and " a tobacco-box," at 6r/. The aggrc- 

fate account of the appraisement is 38/. 8*. Ad. 
regret to say, that, after the most diligent in- 
quiries in this town and the neighbourhood, I 
bave not been successful in discovering any of the 
ariiclcs I have particularised, nor any of the 
others enumerated in the inventory, except one 
of the knives and forks ; the history of which I 
have had the good fortune to trace satisfactorily. 

Tlie subject of the relationship, historians had 
persuaded themselves, and led others to b(.»lieve, 
exi'Jtinjj between our poet's widow and the family 
of Minshull of Stoke, having engaged my atten- 
tion, I cannot close my present communication 
without mentioning, for the infonnation and satis- 
faction of such of your readers as take an interest 
in her genealogy, that I am in possession of evi- 
dence of the most conclusive ch»iractcr, which 
fully goes to establish that Sir Edward Minshull 
of Stoke II all resided at that mansion with his 
family in 1667, and up to the time of his death, 
which happened a few years afterwards ; and that 
he had issue by his wife Dame Mary, who was 
the younjrest daughter and coheiress of Edward 
Moryull, Esq., of Gray's Inn (whose eldest daughter 
was Ikrbsira, the wife of Handle Dod, Esq., of 
Edge, of this county), viz. five children: — 1. 
Eilward, his succe-sor; 2. AVilliam of Gray's Inn, 
living in 1715 ; 3. Mary; 4. Ann; and 5. Eliza- 
beth, so long supposed to have been the third wife 
of Milton. The two youngest daughters, Ann 
and Elizabeth, lived with their mother Lady Min- 
shull, after Sir Edward's death, at a house she 
enjoyed as a portion of her jointure, called " The 
New Bell," situate in Nantwich, in 1674 — being 
the identical year in which our immortal bard 
breathed hiM last, and ten years subsequently to 
^ JM3t marriage; thus rendering it utterly im- 

possible that his widow could have been Sir 
Edward Minshull's daughter. T. W. Josces. 



Preserrathn of $ensUited Platrt. — It appears there is 
! now no doubt ihat the inctlio<l of preserving collodion 
I plates in n sensitive state for eight or ten days is quite 
I practical. I have determineil to try it as soon ns the 
weather becomes more favourable. Mr. Siiadbolt having 
' been so in giving as his plan, I have no doubt bat 
he will not think me intrusive if I ask him two or three 
questions on the subject. What method docs he pnrsne 
when frr)m home and has more sensitive plates to expose 
than are in the dark frames ? That is, does he recom- 
mend keeping the sensitive plates in a plate-box, and 
using onlv one dark frame for exposing the whole of the 
plates? If so, does Mr. S. use a tent in order to remove 
the plates into the frame and back into the plate-boz? 
; It ceruinly would be a cumbrous affair to have as many 
j dark frames as we had plates, or even lialf t)ie numbo* 
: providing they were double dark frames. I will be glad 
to learn Mr, SiiAnnoi.T's plan, or any other photographei^ 
who may have had some practice in this process. 

R. Etuorr. 

Fading of Positives. — Nothing is more vexations in 
photography than to fmd our pictures fade and disappear, 
even after we suppose we have taken all the precautions 
in our power to preserve them. The fading uf positives 
sometim&s takes place soon after they are printed ; at 
other times they jiroscrve their tints for many months or 
even years, and then begin gradually to lessen in inten- 
sity and l)eauty of colour. This has' generally been at- 
tributed to some portion of the h3'iK)su]phite of soda 
being allowe«l to remain, and no doubt that is the general 
causo^ liut I beg to call the attention of your photo- 
grnphic friends to other causes, viz. the card-board on 
which they are pasted, as well a? the material ased for 
causing tliiem to adhere tn it. Near four vears since I 
was presented by a friend with a beautiful landscape 
view, which has remained unaltered until lutelv, having 
during the whole time been framed and exposed to lighL 
The picture has been stuck to its mount, round its edges* 
to the extent of a quarter of an inch ; and here onlr, 
where the picture is in contact with its mount, has the 
colour gtuie. In my collection other pictures, which were 
mounted at one time, appear to have deteriorated, whilst 
they have not done so at another ; the mode of manipn- 
lati'on being the same. I am therefore Icil to infer, tnat 
bleaching chemicals liave been suffered to remain in soma 
samples of card-hoard which has caused this decay; and 
it is probable that oven the paste itself, or other nliaterial 
used for sticking, may undergo some change by tinUt 
cnusing this effect. I am sure any hint teuding'to j»«- 
8er\'e our works will be acceptable to us all. IL \V. D. 

Oranges among the Romans (Vol. xi., p. 41.). 
— Your correspcmdent L. has made it very pro« 
bable that the orange- tree was not planted at 
Rome till the thirteenth century, (libbcm is noC 
the only writer who has made the mistake dTtup- 
^sing that the ancient Romans were acquainted 

Fus. lOL 1»55.] 



witb thh tree. Burbic du Bocage, in hb work on 

Sacr- hy (aiiu Jiigue, Paria, l»4a), &. 

Toc* i Lh£ luiiowiiig eJLLraordiniirj £lute> 
meat : 

•* n p9mH fjne l#s P!i^j<*if^^ tfraient dlfftfrents proditits 
* xxvii. 6. in tbc Val- 

^ i le, et »ert il fcure J«3 

-ytMUx. trrieiis, l*eut* 

rj ei ftutres que l*ilAiif} duiuie ea 

No doubt the Vulgjite is in error ia translating 
Cbittim by iiixlj^ tkud tlie writer in siippusing^ ihul 
th« Fuoenictaiis derircd thu wood of tbe onini^e- 
lre«i from tlial country. B. IL C. 

ZentrtU fmirktd with white S(ar$ (Vol* x, 
p. 5230- — *rhe Kev. \> *B, Darnel, who was well 
known as a 9[x)ruiuan in his <juy, ba$ the loliuw* 
isig p«uaaage in hu book on Rural SporU^ vol. i, 

* 111 a»e Fprfng of 1799, in the opcharJ of VV.Cole, of 

HcM-'fT*- Etttmp«tead, ta Essex* mvcn yoantj hjin» were 
f lorm ; each w*« niAJ^lEed witij n star of i^hite 

' <1* Tiii« mariL, acconlmg to received opiu)Oti« 

i* iM», ji 3 >»rtu wbea the young exue^d two m nuaiber/' 

I w^ll remeinber, more than ibirty-five years ago, 
having *t?en four very youn^ leverets in u lorm, 
all tumked with wbite' stars on tbeir iWehead, 
s :' ' ' W%s belonging to liic same Hirer, for 
'^ onifer u balk in the parish of Little 

L . I ri .... •;nencU»sed. 

J I 11 tjf Air. Daniel's theory is, 

bf^^v^ ,. ,, ,,, the testJtnony of three t»f my 

*^niu. -jr. who have bud muub experience in 
3« ' and have been recently queaiii»ned 

« One of them atates his having 

ft' , ^ ago^ ut Shortgrove, in this county, 

a litter or eaat, aa he expressed himself, of four 
leverets, tme t»f which only bad a white star^ but 
tbiit be bad often observed a singU young rabbit 
mflrk«»<l in the *anie way. Amither ki.eper had 
'Iv seen one young hare with the white 
- I be third keeper bad never observed or 

ic peculiarity. 

Ml me of the corresponilents of ** N. & 
< throw farther light on the subject ; 

• which, it has often struck me as a 
III » I i Mi tc^iL't, that gamekeepers are in general 
ilbierute {LTron^, wherea* they might, if better 
p,{ , ,f ii iiiive ample opportunities of observing 
i '>f birds and wild animuU, and making 

V ^ iiscoveries, as well as confuting vulgar 

tr.i(ljtioi»8, which have been ciipied from one au- 
thority to another, till they have obtained a 
cert J (u degree of credibility, without rfjsiin*' on 
asy good loundation. BaAYiiaooKK. 

Jtfifjor Atidri (y^\. viii, pas^im)^ — S£JtvtE!<s 
** beui^ cDj^ugcd upon a btogrsphj of Major 

Andnti,'* I send the foUowing, trusting it maj be 

** Colonel Hamilton to KUs Schuyler. 

** Head Quiuturs of the Anny, 

lappao, October i, 1780. 

. . . ** Poor Andre saffcrs to-day. Everjthmg that ia 

amiabt in virtue, in fortitude, in delicate MniUutcnl, 

juid AccoMipliBbed maun<;rii, plead for hitn ; but UdtA- 

hearted jioljcy caJh for a ^Mcrilice. Ue must die, I «ctui 

you my account of Amold'i uffkir; and to justify mysalf 

-t-ntiments, I mu-t ^ ou that 1 urwii • 

' with An drop's r &hot, and 1 do not 

uuuld huve had au But some peopla 

liiu 4>uiy ftcuiiibJe to muiiv«^^ tiud pt>licy, and sometiutea 

from a narrow dis^Kieilion mistake it. 

** WktH Andre' % tale (n»iv - ' ' ' ' ', ^ ' -- ■•* fc*«at- 
ment is ovt;r, the refusing; iioo^lng 

the maiiner of his death wi j much 


^ It wLj proposed to me to suggest to him thns idea of an 
exchange fur Arnold ^ but 1 knew I should have furf^Ued 
bis eateeiu by >ioiiig it, and therefore declin«tl iL As a 
mail of honour he coald not but reject it ; and I would not 
for the world have proposed to him a thing which mu.^t 
have pUced me in the un«miabte light of suppoajog him 
cjpabk uf tiieannc^a, or of not feeling myteu the uit pro- 
priety of the measure. I confess to you, I hud the 
weaknesii to value the esteem of a dying man because I 
reverenced his merit," 

The much* respected lady to whom the above 
letter was addre*aed, died at Washington, No- 
vember 9th, 1854, at the a^ vunced age of ninety- 
seven years, having uullived her husband. General 
liamiltoU) for more than half a century* VV* \\ « 


Designation of Work* under Review (Vol. ix^ 
p. 516 \ Vol. jt., p. 4730—1 beg to thank Mil, 
Fusnes for reuitnding your correspondents uf mj 
original Query. I am as much surprised as he is 
that some one has not takt^n the trouble to answer 
it. Caption is a pure Americanism, To snve the 
tr<»uble of rererence^ I beg to repeat my Query : 

Under what technical term should a reviewer 
refer to the group of works forming the heading 
of the article ? Example : " The subject is ela- 
borately treated in the second work of our * * *. 
What word ought lecbnicaliy to supply this 
blank ? C. Makstoxd l»GLEnY. 


Toba^co'smoking (Vol. x. ^wwim).— The fol- 
lowing passage appears to have been not yet 
quoted, ami will be interesting both if» smokers 
and to leelotuUers. Speaking of Btchitjm^ or 
coltsfoot, as a remedy for a bad cough, Fliuy 
aaya ; 

^ Hulas arida: com radlc« fiimns per arundinem, 
h3u.stus H devorato*, vetitrem fanare dicttnr iu*aini % ted 
in nMffvh*» kau*lu$ patium jputmidttni €tt.'* — 3Vtf. i/wf. 
xxvL 10. 

That is, the smoke of the plant, * 
its root, when bubibed ml^ ^Wv^- 





[No. 278. 

oougli. Bvt between iks whiffs you musi take a 
drop of wine ! Verhum sapienti sat. 

This passage is clearly the original of that from 
Dodoensi in my former communication on this 
subject I cannot lay my hands upon the refer- 
ence. B. H. C. 

" JVhat I spent,"* SfX- (Vol. xi^ p. 47.). — The 
epitaph alluded to was in Tiverton Church, on the 
tomb of Edward Courtenay, third Earl of Devon, 
commonly called ** the blind and good earl ;'* who 
died 1419, and his countess Maud, daughter of 
Lord Camois. The following was the true in- 
scription : 

** Hoe, hoe! who lies here? 
I, Uie ffoode Erie of Devonshere ; 
With MauU, my wife, to mee full dere, 
We lyved togeather fyfty-fyve yere. 
What wee gave, wee have ; 
What wee spent, wee ha<l; 
What wee lefte, wee loste." 

J. R. W. 

** Donc€Uter, in Torkshirt, 

•* Howe! howe! who is heare? 
I, Robin of Doncastcrc, 
And Margaret my feare. 

That I spent, that I had. 

That I ga%'e, that I have, 

That I left, that I lost 

A.D. 1579. Qaoth Robertus Byrkes, who in this world 
did reigne threescore 3'ea» and* seven, yet llv'd not one." 

This man gave Rossington Wood to the public. 
I have found two or three inscriptions like this : 
one in the cloi^tters of We^stminster Abbey ; another 
in St. Olave Church, Hart Street, in Southwark; 
and a third in tlie chun-h of St. Faith, as part of 
the epitaph of one WiUiuiii Lamb. But the oldest, 
and that from which the others may have been 
taken, is in the choir of St. Peters Church at 
St. Alban's. There was to be seen in Scotland, 
some years ago, upon a very old stone, the same 
thought thus expre:<sed : 

** It that I Kife, I haif. 
It that I len, I craif. 
It tiiat I 8|»cnd, i.s invne, 
It that I leif, I tyiic.^' 

This is an extract from Ilackett's Epitaphs, vol. i. 
p. 37. edit. 1757. J. R. M., M.A. 

In reply to AV. (1), the following is the original 
of the lines be qiioteii : 

" Qiiod exp4»ndi hahui, 
Quml di>navi habeo, 
Qiio<i ne^avl puiiior. 
Quod servavi pcrdidi.'' 


[Wc must rcmin<l our rorre^poiidonta that thin epitaph 
.has alreailv been discu.<«!*ed in *'N. /^Q.;" the one on 
Robin of boncaster, in Vol. v., p. 179.; and the lines 
quoted by Bkmtoliknais, at p. 4."i2. of the same volume, 
Rom the brass of John Keltynworth, 1412. Mr. J. S. 

WAKDBir rVol viii., p. 30.) has also noticsA tliat it bai 
been antiopated, if not imitated from. Martial, book vL 
epig. 42. Qnarles, in his Divine Faneies, lib. ir. mrt. 70., 
It>d3, has made the following riddle upon it : 

** The goods we spend we Aegs; and what we aave 
We hie; and only what we lose we Aooc"] 

"iSter of the twilight grey'' (Vol. x., p 445.)- 
— In a volume bearing the title Jacobite Melodies, 
a Collection of the most popular Legends, Baliads, 
and Songs of the Adherents to the Htmse of Stuart, 
Edinburgh, printed by William Aitchison, 1823, 
" Star of the twilight grey,'* given at p. 260., k 
ascribed to J. II. Allen, Esq. £. D. B. 

Quintus Calaber (Vol. x., p. 345.). — I am not 
aware of any complete translation, but I have 
bef<ire me Select Translations from the Greek of 
Quintus SmynuEus, by Alexander Dyce, A.B. of 
Exeter College, Oxford, &c., 8vo, Oxford, 1821, 
pp. vi. 123. Mr. Dycc, now so well known for his 
editions of carlv dramatists, btates in the preface 
that nothing is li:nown of the author : that be re* 
ceived the one name Q. Smyrnssus, — ''because 
Tzetzes {Chiliad, ii. 489.) applies it to him ; and 
because he himself, in his xii books, says that the 
muites inspired him while he was feeding sheep 
near Smyrna;" the other (Q. Calaber), ''from 
his poem having been <liscovered by Cardinal 
Bessaritm in a monastery of Calabria.** 

Mr. Dyce goes on to say : 

" His * Supplement to the Iliad * consists of xiv books, 
of which no translation has appfartd in our language : it ii 
f^enerally suppo-setl that he l>orrowed lar(;ely from Utt 
Cyclic poets, chictly from Lesches." 

quoting; " IL»yne, Ercurs I. (de rerum Trojanomm 
Auctoribus) ad j^iieid. IL" Balliolbhsis. 

Oriel (V(d. x, pp 291.535.). — Your correspon- 
dent Oirris thinks that I come so near the deri- 
vation of this word, that, in school-boy phrase, 
*'' I burn." By his own admission, I think I maj 
say that I am not only so iic'ur the hidden ol^ect 
of search, but that, in liuonaparte phrase, Je le 
tiens! I have alreiidy said that it is the Xorman* 
Frcntdi oreil *^ with a dillercnce," and classes with 
the majority of the fi^ruraiive appellations' of ar- 
chitecture <lerived from that lanjruage. Amongst 
the many (ijjnrative uses of the word oreille, re- 
ferred to by Boiste in his excellent Pan-Lexique, 
we find Sfverai to imply a partie saiUante, and 
amongst them the oreillon.f or orillotts of fortifi- 
cation, as remarked by Jacob Bryant. M. (2) 

Weather Rides (Vol. viii., pp. 50. 535. ; Vol. ix., 
pp. 9 -277. 307. 585.). — 

" Portuguese Weather and Smxon Rules, — A wet Ja- 
nuary is not HO ^ooil for cum. hut not so bad for cattle. 
January bhissoins fill no man's cellar. If February is tlrr. 
there is neither (^ood corn nor f;ooil hay. When March 
thunders tooN and anns ;ret ruAty. He who freely lops 
iu March will get his lap full of fruit. A cold April 

Feb. 10. 1853.] 



briii^ wine and bread in plenty* A cool and moiit April 
fiJJs ilie cdlair and fattens tli« cow, A >vi '■' uMkie* 

A hiir ymr. He who njuw&in May wiil I irait 

nor biij. Mid^umnier ruin spoil* wint f^rma* 

In May an eaal-lyiag field i» worth watin muk uxen ; in 
Jblv, the oxeo and llie yoke. The firet day of August, 
tbe lirst day of harvest. August ruin gives honey, wme, 
■id saffron. August ripens^ beptcmber gutberi} lu. Au- 
gml lH»ir» Ihe burtiiun* September the IruiL bcptciijUer 
dries up wella or breaks down bridges. Preserve your 
fodder in Sepleraber, and your cow will fatten. In Oc- 
tober dung your ticld, and the land iu wealth thuli yield. 
Oti All >aint5' Day tbert^ i$ unovr on the ground; on Sl 
Antlrew's, the night is twice as long a« day. lie who 
dunga hiK barley well shaJl bave fruit a hundred fold; 
and if jit haa beea a w«i Hea^ion tiiere is uottung to fear. 
No one tbrivcu who godless drivej^. None in AnguAt 
should over the l«nd; m Doceinber none over the sea. 
Litzinitaa is the key to poverty. The uaurer'j gold sita 
dowa with him to tahlcL" 

Spirit Rappings (VoL ix., p. 200-). — 

** A writer giving an account of i»ome ver^- remarkable 
'spiritual manifestations' declare* that be *aw and ex* 
perieoced «t the bouse of a neigh bour, among otlicr tbiiigSt 
the spirit of hie gnuidfather, which rapped him on tho 
Ibrcheiid with ^uch fone, * that the touud could bo beard 
in every part of the rooiu.* We should think/* aayii thii 
BmUm Fo§t, " h very likely, Theifc ore beaila which, um 
IB common with cmptv shtilLs of all sorts^ muke capibd 
medmmft of sound. His * grandfather ' could not have 
made a better selection." 



The following extract from a wurk nnt likely to 
fjpJl into many ImndH, will, it ia hoped, be ticcept* 
able, iind help to uouuti^ract tknatlci^ui ikiid iuliy : 

*■ ThsM aire nut lo be stt down — at least so it is to be 
hoped — among the normal and catholic Auperstitioiia in- 
cident to humanity. They are mueh wor»e than the 
worst form of the doctrine of martriaJity. I' aber- 
rations betoken a pen'eme and pruneut play of the ab- 
normal fancy* groping (ar the very holy of holies in 
kennels running with the most teuiieless ntid god-^aban- 
doned aliomiimtir>n5t. Our natural auj»ersdtions ure bad 
enough; but thus to make a aystemtitic buiiiucM of 
family » impitsiure, and profiuiily, and to imagine all the 
while thttt we are touching oil the precincts of Qod'd 
•pintail! kiu;;dom, ia uu.^petikably ^ho^ king. The horror 
and dinunice of suclii [iroceetlin^'i were n<?ver even ap- 

?-oach«d in the darke^^t day* of heathcniim and idolatry, 
e who make shattered nerves mid depiave*! Hena^itions 
the interpreters of truth» the keys whjch shall unlock the 
tjaf-^'^ I'f fi»' iV'-ri. and Mpan the ^ecretsof futurity — ye who 
nKiM .!: Ill J! :i>p a!S the prophtt of all wi'sijum*. thua 
rriiiiKitk.' >'iii, <i4- uh, ntid the devil the iord.4 paramount of 
cruulion — have ye bethought yonr«etve« of the backward 
«jid ibiwuwiird course whjch ye are running into the pit 
of thL- be.^tial and the abhorred? Oh, ye tnii^firable 
myslics! when will yc know tluit all Gwl's truths nnd all 
mah'n ble^ingA lie in the broad heath, in the trodden 
wavi, nnd in the laughing aun^bine of the universe, and 
th;it al! intellect, nil gtniu% is merely the power of seeing 
iljing^." — Imiitutcs of MdQpkgifiCt 
> rier, of the University of SiL An- 

Thif SckoolbQy Formvla (Vol. %^ p. 124.). — 
The following are itsed in the United State* for 
the selection of the liiggmr^ before cottimencinfr % 
game of tiig, A boy is touched by one in the 
middle of the ring ut each word. The one last 
touched goe9 out of ihe circle. The process is re- 
i:omtnenc*iil and eantinued antil otily one b left, 
who %& the first tagger. 

♦• Eeny, n»eeny, nioftny, mite, 

liuiter, lather^ bouey, BtrikjBy 

Hair,, bit, froat, n«ck, 

Harrico, barrico, we, wo, wsck.'* 
** Eeny, meeuy, tipty, te, 

Teena, Dinah, Do mine, 

llocca, proach, Donima, noAch, 

Hi, pou, tus," 
•• Ooe-ery, Two-ery, Hickory, Ann, 

FilliHton, Follasten, Nicholas John, 

Queeby, Qua why, Virgin, Mary, 

Singalunif Sangalum, Uuck." 


To ''thou'' or to "ihee'' (Vol. x., p. 61.).-^ 
Thorpe vttLS undoubtedly right, in a graimutttical 
point of view, in s&ying *' to thou," but it is evi- 
dent that Soulbey, in saying tbatsonie one *Mheed" 
bis ueigbbuurs, meant to give a gui»d-bunioiired 
rebuke to the Quakers for auying ^Ubec " ini»t«ad 
of *Mbou.** Ill this country, Ibis coiTupiion ia 
almost uiiiversul among the Socitfty ol Frii'nd9» 
who say " Hok'z thee do ? " for ** How diini thou 
do ? " "1 hi>pe t/iee is well ? "^ ** Will thee come 
and take tea with us ? " 

Not one in a thousand is correct in this matter. 
While making it a niLttier of conscience not to use 
the plurni t/ou lor the singular thou, they have no 
quaim9 about ujsing ibe objective in place of the 
nominuttve ; — swaQowing a eaiuel after straining 
at ti gnat. UitBDit. 


** As big as a parxon'g ham^* (YoL xi., p. 7.). — 
The following reniiirk in Mr. Huntington's Bank 
of Faith has duuhtless reference tu the above 
Duraetahire saying (^Ir. H/s wife waa a Dorset- 
sbire woman). Speaking jiico»ely of having made 
their bed -room into a depository for the com 
glemicd by his wSfe^ H. auya : 

** So we slept defiinderl with the sUff of life, hanng all 
our tithes in our bod-chnni ber, which, bv the bye, 1 
believe was one of the wmaUttt tithe l>urHB in Christendom." 
— Huntingtoti> Bank of Fmth^ p. 48. (tenth edition), 
Loudon, 1822. 

William Pamplik. 

» The ViViage Lawtfer'" (VoL ix., p. 403,). — 
The printed etlition of thii! farce bears date 1795, 
and IS stated in the Biogrophia Drufnutwu to be 
pirated. It is of Frcncb origin, and the autlior 
never printtHl it; and it U thought ihat Me,C^V 
man purchased the «i0^^t\i^V ^,">^.^- 



[No. 278. 

Unregistered Proverh§ (VoL x., pp. 210. 355.). — 
To llie list add ^ As peart as a pearinonger ** 
(cusUfrinouger ?), bclon<;ing to Lanciiabire. 

P. J. F. Gahtilloh. 

Ofd Jukes: *'John Chinaman s Pig** (Vol. x., 
p. 534.). — 

JHcMfpolii. 'AAA' iway coictf r." 

AchameH$e$t 909. 

He might have added pigeon* s milk, -— 

* mararHivm v' 

cara^nf ow v rym 

Garrick Club. 

Acei, 1872. 

U. B. C. 

Barristers' Oowns (Vol. ix., p. 323.). —I have 
alwHjs underdtootl the piece huiiging from the 
back of barristers* gowns, to represent the h'>od 
which Ibrmcrljr formed a part of that robe. 

E. II B. 


Man^of'War^ why a Ship of War so called f 
(Vol. iv., p. 40). — May not this term have its 
origin thus: a ship manned fur war — imle^ mnn 
of war ? Or, because it is a ship which <;arries 
men of war? E. H. B. 


Sharp Practice (Vol. x., p. 343.). — With re- 
ference to this nr>tice from Mr. Fbas. Bbknt, I 
inclose a copy of a song which has l>een in my 
family many years (in manuscript), and I know 
not wliL*th«r It has been printed. It certoiinly is 
identified with the Hcconnt in the London C'/iro- 
Juc/eolJan. 11—13, 1781. 

*• A lawyer quite fttmou^ for makinf:^ a bill, 

And who in ^^otxl iivinf; dulif^hteil : 
To il inner one day witii a kiMrty good will 

W.w by a client invitwl/ 
But lie charged Mix and ei^ht-pence fur f^oing to dine, 

Which the client he paid, thu' uo ninny ; 
And in turn charged the lawyer for dinner and wine, 

One a crown, and the other a guinea. 
But gossips, you know, have a saying in store, 
lie wlio matches a lawyer has only one more. 

•* The lawyer he paid it and took a receipt. 

While the rlient fitare<l at him with wonder, 
AVith the produce he gave a magiiilii-ent treat. 

But the lawyer soon made him knoik under. 
That hid client sold wine, information he laid, 

Without licence, and, wpite of his stonning, 
The client a goo<l thumping penalty paid. 

And the lawyer got halt lor informing. 
But gOMipA, you know, have a saving in store. 
Ho who matches a lawyer has only one more." 

W. D. Uaggaiid. 
Bullion Office, Bank of England. 

Latinizing Proper Names (Vol, xi., p. 27.). — 
There is a dictionary of pn»per names which, I 
believe, will give your correspondent just the in- 

formation he requires. Un fortunate! j I caimol 
find a copy of it, and the only clue which I can 
give is that the author*s name is Pye. It is a very 
useful book, and any of your reaaers who possess 
a copy, and will communicate the exact title, wiU 
thereby oblige not only A Pi^aih Masi but your 
obedient servant, Q. 

[The work noticed bv our correspondent is probably 
the following : A yetc l>ictUmary of Ancient Gcograftuf^ 
exhibiting the Modem in addition to the Ancient Nama 
of Flares. Designed for the Use of Schools, and of those 
who are reading the Classics or other Ancient Authofi 
By Charles Pye : Loudon, 8vo., 1803.] 

HandeVs Wedding Anthem (Vol. x., p. 445.). — 
Is the anthem noticed by 11. £. different from that 
composed in 1736 for the wedding of Frederick, 
Prince of AVales, and the Princess of Saxe Gotha, 
and which is printed in Dr. Amohfs Collection t^ 
HandeTs Works f The words of this are iroin 
Psidm Ixviii. v. 32. ; Psalm cxxviii. v. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.; 
Psalm xlv. v. 17.; Psalm cxxvii. v. 4, 5, 6.; 
P^alm cvi. v. 46. ; and it is the only Wedding An- 
them by Handel 1 ever met with, either in print 
or MS. If the anthem referred to by H. E. be 
not the same, it b probable that it -was a com- 
pilati<m from several C' impositions, an expedient to 
which Handel had frequent recourse for tem- 
porary occasions. W. H. H. 

Doddridge and WhitcfieUl (Vol. xi., p. 46.).- 
Your correspondent should have said that the 
sermon h.» alludes to is undoubtedly the pro- 
duction of Dr. Doddridg**. This is manifest from 
the date of its original publication ; the Adverti»c- 
ment to the Rea<h^r is <l:itorl •* London, July 29, 
1735." Now Whitcfield's ordinntion did not take 
place till Sunday, June 20, 1736, or nearly one 
year later than the publication of this sermon. 
Wh«>cver includi'd it in the collection of discoursei 
by Geo. Wliitefield, appears to have made a stupid 
blunder : — Suum cuique. B. H. C 

The Crescent (Vol. vii. passim), — You hare 
alrea<ly in>erted several Notes on this subject; 
will the followin<T add anything to what has ap- 
peared? Doubtless originally connected with tne 
worship of Diana, or the Moon, who is represented 
**assc*z souvent nvec un croissant sur la tetc" 
But not only Diana, Greek and Roman princesjes 
have frequently attached to themselves the sym- 
bol of the crescent upon coins and medals &c. 
Monaldiui, in his htitnzionp Antiquario-numisma- 
tica^ p. 91., alludes to this fact in these words : 

"La luna crescentc h spesso adoprata a sostenere il 
buoto delle Priucipe.<ises che sono negli state, come la luu 
ncl cielo." 

At the end of his work he gives a medal on whidi 
the crescent appears eleven times. I would re- 
mark that the wor.-hip of Diana or Arterius pj«- 
Tailed yery extensively in the Old World. W 

SB. 10. 1855.] 



Scythians were capccblly ad^licted to it ; md in 
the Tauricii Chersonesus, nuw calK-d the Ouiiciit 
it was cuaiomiiry to sacrilk-e to this go Ule.Hs the 
atrarigcrs who came to thi'ir shores. Wo reiiret 
to see the horrid rhcs, we iiuiy sjiy, renewed in 
r own day, and celebrated at ihis moment, 

B, IL C. 

Mtfinet on Places (Vol. x., p, 3C9.).— 
'*SuttoQ Tor mutton. 
Til m wort li for Ln?<«f, 
WalauU for Ijjiiuiy'leiJf!'. 
Birmitigham for » ibieC 

Another has in it the fotlowtng line : 

*• Vrorcester for pretty girls," 
I nm unabk to supply the rcimiinder.* B, IL C 


iroTRi ON nooKS, etc. 

Gifted with a neatly pen and ns ready a penriK and a 
newer of observation wlilrli sf'otns i<t allow few olnjeris 
oeaerving of notice to esrapc hi« altentlon, Mr. Gei»r;;e M. 
MuA^ave, M.A., has proilureil an cx-tavo voUsmc ui>der 
the litlo *>f Hnmhlfg ikiottyh Nonttandgs or Sceftes^, Cha- 
rwtert^ and IncidrjttSj in a Sheftfiinff lS^VCur»"*n tfttnu^h 
Cd/nar^jt, which will affDnl a few Iioutm' nniunin^ rfiidm^ 
to limne who love to travd by tlie tjre.side; aiiil, on the 
other Itimd. will be found nn iiitp^c»iing travcllu^g com- 
panion to those who may be tempted to visit the romantic 
and pictufej?quc s<rcnts to which it relates. 

We have received a amuJI volume from Amcfieat pret- 
tily illiutnited, and conLiiniiiL' a pnotl deal t>f pkiisant 
semi-antiquurian gossip, entitled 7A* Iii*tonji and Pottrif 
of Finqer BittffSy by Churleii I'ji^^ards. The worthy 
CounHollor-ut-LftW of Kew Vork, for MUch it appenr.H is 
the profession of the writer, hadi colteeted his m<itL'n:il'i 
from a prcat variety of tmiirti-s and prOdnrtMi a littk 
volume whid*, if not jo profnumlJy leurne*! n-t ihoso in 
whirh Kirchmtmn, Gorlt;iiM, Ktrthur. &u.t dis^ertara De 
Anunli*, iviJI, uf' doubt not, be found li^jhter and more 
Agrt'ratdv reading. 

I'nMm.s IlKiiitVED. ^ — CorttwaU, iU Minei^ ^lineri^ and 
Sccttrr^f by the ftothor of Ottr Coal FifhU ami oar Q>ai 
"^iUn ft'rmSj like rh:it work^ n portion of LiMij^mnn 9 Tra- 

\Uer*t Lihranf^ and will he found aa full of iufoniiatioo 
imd interest jta its predBi-esacr. 

CSirtn^hifjt nf JLondim, rxhihitinp tha nmst rttre and 
mnnrknUe OljecU nf Interest m iht Metn/piiU^ with nrarly 
Fi/Jfy IVarjc' p€rmnat Itrcft^leftiimM* by John Timbs. V.f^.A. 
Mr. Kiinbs mii;h( hnvc ndded in hi»' title-page, to hU list 
of advantjipt'3 under which the present volume Imw been 
pn_K!»tri?d, tbei many yenra for whirh htj edited The .l/rrnwr, 
and those which have nsiiltt'd from his loog-con- 
tinn^ fonnexion wilh the Iflustraivd London NewM, 

Gif>lion*» Decline and Fall of the Roman Kmpire^ «Hlite(l 
|>V L^r, Smith, tcitli Ntdt* by fltan Mdman and M. GutZ/H, 
*I^be seventh Volume of this handsome rdition^ one of 
Jdurray'i British Chiutic*, briii^?* (jildicn'ft nurrativo down 
to the vit'tory of the GcnoosMi over the Vcnetiana and 
Cr<?*kf^ in 1352, 

7Ae Focht Pe&affe of Great Britnift nf„l 7r,\^„d, H^ith 
Getttaloffkal and HUkwieal XviictM t^ /^ n/|/ie 

Nphitity, grc.» Vv Henry Ripw Forator, o/rAe Mhrming 
Post Fifth Vwr.rmttettlp me ^nU/itjf^ Having' i^iKen 
84jmo pain» to leH the oreurflry of this compuci !*fKket 
Peeratjc, we tun bmr evidence to the griiii vannv of 
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volume, j.iud to the reliance which may be placed upon it. 



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Aeftilemicn. Author* Oul. TukwHI. ^*T. P, | ondu>i(, ir>V 
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editions, especially in ilie noies. This led me to 
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of Woiidfall in 1772, besides those whteh result 
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1. The Title is ditlerent: 

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omifuous are restored to their proper plucea in this 

" Fonrteen Letlera lire also addeil to thifl edition. Tlir^v 
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require that ihcy should he ranged along with It i^ uni^werti 
to tbcin. Tbe^e letters arc marked with « stur, A 
variety of Explanatory Notes have also twen added, 
some of ^vliirh tiavetieeu noticed in the Contents i Init the 
whole ot'them were too numeroiu to be lo di»tiit|^uished. 
** It is proper lo obaerve, that the Lettera sij^ned FhiJo 
JuniuB wen; wnlt<?n by Junius. In this edition^ a mis* 
take comtnitted in the milhijv'a edition has been avoided. 
In that edition, the IjCtter of Piiito Jtiniu.'*, dated May 
32nd» 1771, is inseried twice; the fim time in Volume 
First, an a Xote to the twentieth Letter; and the second 
titne in Volume Second, as the forty-sixth Letter." 

8. The Dedication is omitted. 

4. Tlie Preface is omitted, with the exception of 
the concludinj* paragraph from De Lolnie, which 
h beaded *' M. I>e Lolme on the Liberty of the 
PresA,'" and begins as follows : 

" Whoever considers what it Is that conttitutea,** &c. 

This single page stands in the plat*e of a Preface. 

5. Then we have *' Contents of Volume First." 

"Letter L Political Character of Englishmen ; Alarm- 
ing State of the Nation ; Plan of Government since hi.s 
present Majesty** Acue&iion; Chara*:t<.*ra of the prwint 
and former Miniatera; America; Summary Vieir of our 

•* Note* : {^aractcr of the Duke of Grafton ; kh conduct 
la ihM Marquis of RoduMgham, JmmiuM and Lord Mmtt* 

Juld't Ofrimon nf Mr. PUt'ti cu%d Lord €aiihdtu*§ detdamA' 
iio*\a in favour of Anienca.** 

The word ^*^ declamations^ is a nilitak« of (ha 
printer^s for *' dfcluratioit^y There are many 
h feral errors in the biiok, which lead us to sup* 
pose thiit it had not the benefit of the editors iinal 

" Letter II. Sir Witliflm Draper'i defence of the Mar- 
quis t>i" Granljy.. 

" xVotej : Str WllHam Draper*i emhroidtrxd Sigki-ffown j 
hUkealmg LttUr ftmn OiftoHj* 

The Note about the embroidered ni^ht'goum 19 
one of the new notes introdncvd into this edition. 

The Contents arc carried on in this manner to 
the eighty-sixth Letter, which contains the en- 
Urged accoi*nt of the author*!* Leitcr concendng 
ilie Hill of Ri|;bts. A note at the end of the Con- 
tents ifi" this Letter «ir:*in eaUs attention to what 
18 said of it in the Adverti«ement : 

" In the Author's own edition, three fourths of thin tast 
Letter are omitted, but in this prcntcint edition all the 
omissions aie re&ti>red to tlicir proper plac«a." 

The aaine int'ormaition ia conveyed, for the third 
time, in a note appended to the Title of the Letter 

**In the Author's own edition, nearly twelve pag<s of 
the above Letter are omitted. In this edition the whole 
extract is g^iven, a« it waft originally prei»ealed Ui the 
S tip porters of the Bdl of Ki^ht*. The pajianj^ea mHrk<!»d 
with inverted columns are tlii>se in the AulhorV edition. 
Tiiu pa.<^g;^ not nmrketl are the parts of the Letter xigw 
a^rtin ri-stored lo tliwir pru|>er p luces." 

After the "Contents to Volume First," the work 
coininenced with [hu H^ilf Title : 

** Letters of Junhts^ ^c. ; Letter L To the Printer of 
the l^ublic Advertiser, 21 January, 1660 : Sir, The sub- 
mission,*' Sec. 

Tbus there are three diflTerent Titles given to 
I lie work: The Letters of the celebrated Juniun ; 
The culebrated Letters of Juuius ; and The Letters 
of Junius, These irrcguhii itie:* are perhaps owing 
to the want of the editur't* hist revi&ton. 

The tjiieation to be *dved is, Mlio was tbe 
editor of this exiriiordinary wurk ? Ag t!»e jujfhor 
t*f Junius Identijkdj I \vn» naturally tnt lined to 
tix uti Sir Pujlii* Francis, if there were no im- 
ptdimentst in the wny. 1 cannot find any. He 
went oiit to India in the sftrinj? of 1774, and he 
arrived in England in October, I78L Tliere was 
iiniple time for him to prejtare this edition for the 
prc^rf, and to hjive it juinied in the year 1783, 
Whoever the e^litiir uii;ibt be^ it U \GTy eviilcnt 
that he e«m*iidered hloiself a^ much entillcil to 
mnke free with the work na if he were the author; 
and who was more likely to have taken these 
liberties than Sir Philip Francis*? I am now 
alluding only to those sweepii»t; alleriititms which 
I have been desi ribing. But if it can be shown 
tJiat Sir Pliilip did actuallY TOVk.V<t ttwT««.vv«w^ ^^ 



copy belonged to the same edition with that wLicb 
we are now considering, it will go far, I think, to 
prove thut he was both the editor and the au- 
thor of the work. The following extract from a 
note by Mr. Boho, giving^ an account of the sale 
of Sir Philip Frtincia's library, F^b. 3, J 838, is of 
service as supplying the information of which we 
are in search : 

"Among the lots which more pdrticalarly concern the 
pfesent iBcjuiry wt-re scYeral different editions of Jamuy» 
Letters f ami j»ome of the printed inquiries as to their 
autlioirslilp. These sold for rather high prices, as the fol- 
io wiagquoiationa will dhow : 

**41G. Junitis's Letters, 2 rola., with some MS. correc' 
tioits of the text, and notes bv Sir Philip Francis. In 
calf. 178;j. 12/. 12i. Amwtrong." 

*'117. JyniiL^'s Letters, with nolea by Heron, 2 vols, 
with Botne MS. notes audi corrections of the text, by Sir 
P. Franci*. 1&04. 2/, 2*. ArmstroDgJ* 

"42L Juniuj. A coUwtioa of the Tetters of Atticus, 
Lacins, und JunluA ; with MS. notes and corrections, and 
blanks filled up by Sir Philip Francia, 17CII. And other 
tracts in the volnine* 3t 5», Aruiatrong.'' 

" These and most of the other annotated books were 
bought, under the pMtidonynie of Armstrong, for Mr, 
II, K. Francis, then master of a Grammar School at 
Kin^Aton-npoD'lIull, in, whose possession they still are." 
— Warle'a JtimuSt vol. ii. p* 8G. 

I have omitted in the above list those books 
mentioned by Mr* Bohn which had no immediate 
connexion with our present subject* 

Thus, by another chain of evidence wholly un- 
looked for, and totally different from all that was 
produced in Junim Identified^ we arc again led to 
the conclusion that Sir Philip Francis waa the 
author of JuniiLi*s Letters. John Tatloi. 

7. Leonard Place, Kensingtons 



The elevated portion of the Crimea, which lies 
between Cape Chersonese and Kaffa, nnd estenda 
Bome twenty miles inland, may be said to be better 
suited to the constitutions of Englishmen than 
many places at which our sr.ldiers are i^tationed. 
Nevertheless, it is not the climate for a winter en- 
campment. The rest of the peninsula fibould be 
avoided at all seasons of the year. In autumn it 
wouhl be the der^truction of an army. 

With regard to the positions now occupied by 
our ov?n troopsij or by our allie?, there are some 
flanilary bints to which I wish to give additional 
circulation. They are f|uite Independent of the 
doings or mis- doings of official persons, whether 
lit home or abroad. 

Sehoitopol — 

' ** Trcnte mille hommei [soldata], abrit^ par lei tentes 
d'nn camp, prt'tont leurs bras h ces gigaiitesques niela- 
morpboses [dcs* travail x de nivd lenient, 1W37], et c*e«t 
Ih tin coup dVcii vrajincnt plein d'interLt, que cetto foule 
Uborieuje, loute vctue de toile blanche, s'agit&at et se 

croisant dans le nuag© de cettc poassifere qu'iU enW 
sac par sac, et pour ainsi dire poign^ par poigri^ i 
mamelons abaiaads ; vi^rj table travail de founniU^re, oo la 
division inlinio des forces arrive k la longue an me me rrf- 
sultat que Tenergie dea moteurs et la puissance dbi ni- J 
chini's. Cependant, parmi cette troitpe active et pov^fl 
ycrantetUMJft'aH redoutaitle i^etait manife$ti: uwge (yAaEate 1 
tHtense, fophthaimie fgypiienne^ contayieuMe Mefon k$ wn. 
fptWmtqtitt^ disaicnt ks autrts<, txtr^ait deM ravagts mai' 
keurmsement trop comtates. On rattrihuaii ^niroUmai 
a la prodipietiae poutsiere que !e$ v^ntt font fourbUhmm 
tur C€S coteanT, dt-pnnUUt depuis que le$ travatu^ de mt^k' 
ment ont m tntrrprii, Mais qHeUt que soil la caumdta 
mat, ce tnai est homble. Vingt-qufiir^ heures suMk^ 
touvent a carrompre Tcctf entier et a tarracher dtm 
or6i7«r/' — Aiiatole de DKHinorr, 1840- 

Inherman. — 

*• L*hiatoire de la Crimea n^offro sur Tnkcrraan qiitdii 
notions fort incertaines, Selon mielques srivanta cJuvi^ 
queurs, lea Ujmpa antiques do la Grece Tout coanae floiil^ 
aante sous le nom de Tht^dosie j d'atitrea y TenlaC 
retrouver le Stenos de la geo^rajjhie dea Grecs^ Pillti 
au contrair**, cat disps^ h croire que lea G^noia sont ki 
premiers fjui ae soient ^tdblia sur ces rocher« escana 
Aujourd'hut des muraille.^ en mine, quslques nsltm dt 
tours et un grand nombre de peiitcn grottea al)^^ sur 
le flanc abrupte de la montagne, sont tout co qu^oopest 
voir dans uno coiirte vi^ite. Zm hibiiants de S^nuH^ 
qui vma accampoijneni thms cette promenade voub cnM^et 
ordmairffment {Tahriger votrt sijour^ tant tes manjig voitiB 
ont une mattvahe renomm^eJ' — Aaatole UK DiicriMirf 
1840. A'^-xi^wf. 

Eupatoria, — 

**Si cette grande ville tataro [Eupatorie tzJia, KoiMl 
fat autrefbia flurissante, il faut avouer qu*on ne troa^ 
presque plus aujourd'bui que des mines pour t^moigliff 
de cette ancienne prosperity — Les v^ritables caaiei di 
Fabandon de Koxlof sont la profiperit^? envahiaixiiti 
d'Odeasii, et raccroiMement du trubotage dans la particdi 
port de Sevastopol reserv^e au commerce // /awt ifrt 
auMi^ dmxhns-nOHt trourer dfM voutraflictettrs, qne h <B^ 
de cette cote et sou misinape dei f tangs mlins de SaJk dohi^ 
elre ctmtrmref tt la mnte des habitantt de Ktfz/of, Dun^ 
tmtre sijoar — Unou$ fut aiii de rentarquer pirmi ki ib- 
liitaHti det nymptomea aMez nnmbreux defi^vrts etuUmamL* 
— Anatole he DawiuoFF, 1840. 

BoLTOir CoWSEf- 

"queer things 1M queer PX,AC£S." 

I have sometimes thought of asking a corner ia 
"K. & Q," for the insertion, unde'r the abote 
heading, of those articles which a hook-worm 
occasionally meets in the course of voit mbcil- 
laneous reading, and to which tntiy be applied tbe 
distich ; 

" The thing we know is rather strange and qii«er, 
And wonder * how the devil it came there ? ' " 

Take as a specimen the following, which wouM 
well suit Cnnnmgham's Hmidbook of Loudon^ but 
looks very incongruous in the midst of a — ^'funefal 
sermon I *' 

Sometime since I purchased, among other old 
books, one entitled Oratio Paiifgyriai in ohHim 
Jacobi Fre^f Basil, 1G36* 1 was induced to buy 

Feb. 17. 1855.] 



it by seeing tliat, ihougli a Swiss *^ Professor of 
Greek," he bad been, at tbe time of hh decease, 
**Dean-eIect of Armagh, in Ireland/* Upon looking 
through the volume ibis was explained, by finding 
that Frcy, having gone to Englaod with high 
reputation as a scholar and diYine, woj engaged aa 
tutor to Lord Dungarvan, son to one of the Jead- 
ing men of the day, *^ the great Earl of Cork ;" thia 
led to his introduction at Court, to an acquaint- 
ance with Archbijjhop Usher » and his nomina- 
tion to a Deanery^ which would have placed him 
in close relation with that learned Pi imate, who, 
" without respect of persons,** loved a scholar 
wherever he fouud him. This appointment was cut 
abort by Frey*s premature death in Switzerland, 
August 26, 1636, while preparing to take posses- 
sion of hia new dignity. And it was on the occa- 
sion of hla funeral, that the panegyric I refer to 
was delivered. 

Now cornea tbe *^ queer things* for which I wisb 
a place in ** K. & Q " ^°- ^^^^ funeral oration ^ 
Frey*a various wanderings and journeys are briefly 
touched on : bid knding at Dover ; — hij journey 
by Canterbury and Rochester to London ; ^ ** a 
brief note of Westminster Abbey ; " and then, aa 
the orator says, ** ut tristibus aliquid Joci admis- 
cmm** he proceeds to tell of *^ A fumoua tavern 
in London (Apolh ei nomen) reguhited by twenty- 
four golden rules tor keeping all in order and 
decency.'* " Leges cotivivale^^ tmi memoria rnea 
(lecoxii^ suni isitt.'* Will you allow me (with a 
Query ^ whether any olber record of this classic 
tavern remains ?) to offer you the rules, with my 
version of their meaning. They certaiidy seem " a^ 
practicid as classical C' though, from the change of 
manners, and the disparagement of ihe ckssics in 
modern education, it may be advisable to translate 
for " tbe use of country gentlemen " and tavern 
frequenters in general : 

" 1. Nemo Aaymboltts, nisi llmbra, hue vcnito, 

2. IdlotA, insmbus, tnstis, turpLs^ abesto, 

8. Enicliti, url>aiii, hilares, honeatir adsciscuntor,^ — 
4. Nee lectio f(smin;G rcpiidioat^irr 

G. In apparatti quod coavivia comigat narcj, nil i?5to, 
6* Epalii delecta potias, quam sumptu, par an tor, 
7. Obsonator fit coquus, coQvivamm guluj periti suato. 
8* Dc dbcubitu aoti contenditor — 

9, Minititri a dnpibus occulftti ct mutii 

a poculis auriti et cdercs sun to, 
10, Vina pnria fontibua miniBtrantor, aut vapmlet hcwpfls, 
IL Moderatis pocuLis provocore aodales tm est a. 

12. At fAbulii magls quam vino vehtatio laat, 

13. Couvivaa nee muti, nee loqnaces saato, 

I'L Do perils nut Mcria poti et aaturi nc diascmnto, 
16. Fitliccn, nisi acc^rsitus, non vertito. 
16, Admisso riau, tripudiii, chorels, €antu» 
ftulibtu, omnl gr&tiarum festivitato 
eacra oelebroator. 
I7i Joci sine feUe iunto, 
18. laaipida paismata nulla rccitantor, 
1 19. Veraus scriher^j, nullus c^gitor. 

20. Argumcntationia totu-s strepitiis abesto, 

21. Amatoriia querell^ ac stupiriin, libcr aagulus eato. 


22. Lapilhanini more scyphia piignare, vitra colUdere 
feticatras excutere, aupellet'lileni diiacorare^ nofoa 


23. Qui foraa vel dicta, vel facta eliminat, eliminator, 
2L Ketniaem rciim pocula facfunto. 

Focua per^nais esto."* 

Idem Anglict reAittum, 

** 1. All pay the reck*ning here, save * hangers on ;' 

2. Foofa, bloekbeads^ sad dogji, scoundrels, get you goae I 

3. Men learn'd, polite, gay, honeat, here may croiu'd ; 

4. Even well 'conducted lildJoa are allow 'd, 

5. Let nothing mean in dr^s provoke a sneer. 

6» Youll find roar dinner rather gow!, than dear, 

7. Caterer and cook are bound for wholeaome fare, 

8. None must strive hero for tipper place or chair, 

9. Waiters — ^at tables abarp and silent itand, 
To i5ll the cups, be quick-ear\l and nt band. 

10. Guests, you may rate the boat, if bad the wine* 

11. Cballenge to cbVerfuI glasses while you dine; 

12. Yet more to repartee^ than drink incline; 
13* Neither be moody ^ nor too free of prate, 
14, No serious subjecla in your capa debate* 
16. Unless when -sent for, here no music play a j • 

16. Yet mirth, dance, soag, and all the joy of praise 
Aro here allow'd in Cbristmas Hobday a. 

17, If jokca be pasaM, let tbem be void of'?pite j 

18. Insipid poems none must here rocjte. 

19, No one need sing, unless he Ihiaka it fit, 
SO. Loud noisy argument, we don't permit. 
21, A corner's here to make Iove-<|ttftrrels np; t 
22» But none roust bawl, Bina^h windows, plates, or cup. 
23. Who hence take laliiij, had best betake tbcm bence; 
2-L Let none for words o'er wine t;iko liecp ofTence.*' 

A. B, R. 


[Our corrcspondent*3 memory lias proved traacheroaa 
for once: ho has only to open the works of rare Ben 
Jonson (edit, 184C, p,'726.), ivhere be will ilud tlie famed 
'* Leges tonvivales '■ with a translation. Mr. Cunning- 
ham thus notices them in bis Handboakt art •* Devil 
TAvEf£>r, Temple Bar; '*—*• Tbe threat room iras called 
* The Apollo I' Tbitber came all who desircil to be 
'sealed of tbe tribe of Ben,' Here Jonson lorded it with 
greater authority than Drydeu did afterward* at Will's, 
QT Addison at Button's. The rules of the club, drawn np 
in tbe pure and elegant Latin of Jonson, and placed oyer 
tho cbimnoy, were, it is said, • engraven in marble.* In 
The Tail€r{ No. 79.), they are described as beinpr ' in gold 
letters*,' and this account agrees with the rutca them- 
aelyea — in gold letters upon boartl — still preserved in 
tbe banking- bouse of the Alessr^ Child, w be i% 1 tmd the 
pleasure of seeing them in 1843, with anotber and equjilly 
iitterestiag relic of thu Devil TavBm — ^the bu$t of 
Apollo." Pepvs twice notices thi?s celebrated lavem in 
his amasing hianj: — "Feb. 25, 1664-65. To the Sun 
Tavern e, and there dined with Sir W, Batten and Mr, 
Gilford tbe merchant ; and I hear how Nick Coiborne, 
that lately lived and got a great csUite there, is gone to 
live like a prince in the country, and tlmt this \VadIow, 

• It would seem as if this rule bad t)een prepared joro- 
phetictili^l againijt the ''organ nuisance.*' 

f This is obviously tbe wn^jrp(fc/f>cf original of a ataaaa 
in tbe aong of ** Mrs. Casey the Hostess,*' in one of 
0*Kecfe*s dramas : 

" Let Love fly here on silken wings, 
His trieka I ean coniuve at ; 
A lover who would «a.^ * ncSV ^^^^tJ.s^; 




that did the like tt the Devil Ttrern by St I>iiii«Un\ 
did go into the coantrj, and there spent almost all he had 

Sit, and hath now choused this CollK>rae out of his house, 
at he might come to his old trade again. But, Lord I 
to see how full the house is, no room for any companr 
almo-tt to come into it. L4ite home, and to clean myself 
with warm water; my wife will have me, because she do 
use it herself." Again, "Oct. 22, 1668. To Arundell 
House, where the first time we [the Roral Society] have 
met since the vacation, and not much company; and 
afterwards my Lofd and others and I to the Deril Ta- 
Tern, and there ate and drank, and so home br coach ; 
and there Iband my uncle Wight and aunt, and Woolly 
and his wife, and there sapped, and mighty merry."] 


{Coniauudfrom p. 100.) 

Arnobius alludes to tbe burning of the books 
of Christians by the Pajjans. (Advenus Natione^ 
book \r. c. 36.) He speaks in general terms of 
the suppression and destruction of Christian books 
in book iii. c 7. 

Under the Emperor Valens all books of magic 
were diligently sought aAer and burnt. This 
appears to have been in consequence of the 
offence committed by the ** table-turning ** philo- 
sophers, as already reported in " N. & Q., ' VoL ix., 
and recorded by Zosimus (book iv. 13.) and 
others. To this circumstance allusion is made in 
tho!«e laws of the Theodosian code which were at 
that time published. 

Buronius says that the use of books of magic 
was formerly forbidden both among the Greeks 
and Romans ; and that the ancient practice was to 
bum them as well as other books of a dangerous 

The same author says that the library at Con- 
stantinople when burnt under Zeno (not by 
Leo I. of Rome, as has been said) contained above 
12,000 volumes ; among which was a MS. 120 feet 
long, containing the Iliad, OdysMey, and other 
poems, written m letters of gold, upon the intes- 
tine of a dragon ! 

Afler the conversion of the Arian Goths, Isi- 
dore of Seville composed for them an office which 
continued in use till the invasion of the Arabs, 
who scattered the Christians of Spain, except 
those of Toledo. These were called Mozarabs, 
and they persevered in the use of the office of St. 
Isidore until after the expulsion of the Moors. It 
was then intimated that they must adopt the 
Roman rite ; they objected, and it was eventually 
determined, after fastings, processions, and prayer, 
to kindle a great fire, and commit to it a copy of 
each ritual. This was done. The Mozarabian 
office was triumphant, for it was not in the least 
injured, while the Roman was reduced to ashes. 
{Oiographie des LSgendes, Paris, 1852.) 

The city of Lyons, which had been overthrown 
by the Saracens, was restored by Charlemagne, 

who established there a fair libnurj in the lib of 
Barbe. The library thus formed wma **nUUi it 
bruUe par Us Calvinistes en 1562."* (See tke w«k 
last named, pp. 642. 671.) 

In his HiHory of BtauwnM^ LouTet r^tes iSu/L 
in the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries the s^ 
chives of the Chapter of Clermont were destrofsi 
by different fires. (From tbe same work, p. 371) 

Petrus Alcyonius, in a work entitled lit Exitk, 
Venice, 1522, says : 

^ When a bov I heard the learned Greak Demetria 
Chatcondyles refate that the priests had ao much authoritr 
with the' Byzantine Cesars, that to please them tk^ 
burnt entire' poems of the ancient Greeks, bat cspediDf 
those which record the loves, impure dalliances, and hit* 
ings of lovers. In Uiis way perished the poems of Meiu» 
der, Diphilus, Apollodonis, rhilemon, and Alexia, aodtk 
fancies of Sappho, Krinna, Anacreon, Mimnermos, Bin, 
Alcmanas, and Alcasns. For these they snbstitated tti 
poems of our Nazianzen, which, although they ezdli 
the mind to a more ardent attachment to religion, yel ^ 
not teach the Attic propriety of words, nor the graces d 
the Grecian tongue. ' — Quoted in Preface to Amaenrnt 
Parma, 1791. 

At Florence, in 1547, a law was made wUck 
required all who possessed heretical books, p» 
ticularly those written by Ochino and Martyr, tt 
deliver them up within fifVeen days, under pensi^ 
of one hundred ducats and ten jeara ia thi 
galleys. Heretic books were burned by the If 
quisition with great ceremony. 

In 1548, the Senate of Venice ordered all wks 
held books containing anything contrary to tk 
Roman Catholic faith, to deliver them up witUa 
eight days, or be proceeded against as heretics. 

In 1679, Cardinal Spinola, Biahop of Laeeii 
wrote a letter to the descendants of Uie Luccbeie 
Protestants at Geneva, inviting them to return to 
the bosom of the church. They sent him an able^ 
and yet a respectful, reply. But the pope ordered 
that every copy of it which came into Italy shoaM 
be burnt. 

On the 12th of May, 1521, Thomas Wolsej, 
chancellor, cardinal, and legate, went in solemn 
procession to St. PauKs. This procession carried 
to the burning pile the works of Luther, which 
were devoutly consumed before an imiaeBie 
crowd. (D'Aubignd.) 

The niece of the learned Peiresc is said to have 
burnt his correspondence to save the expense f£ 

In 1671 "a fire consumed the greatest part of 
the Escurial Library (Madrid), rich in tbe spoflf 
of Grenada and Morocco." (Gibbon.) 

Giordano Bruno, the philosopher, was bonit ia 
1600, as well as his books. 

About 1537 many copies of an Eagliah Tenion 
of the Scriptures, which was being printed at 
Paris, were seized and burnt on a conqHaiat made 
by the French clergy. 

In the retreat of Torres Vedraa in 1811, Mar 

rEB. 17. 1855.] 




MDft burnt and plumlered every villiige through 
wbidi he passed . The churdi iind convent of 
Alcobaija — ** the Talue of which/" saya Mr. 
Soutbey^ ** nmy bo expressed to an English 
reader by saying, that (bey wert: to tbe Porlugucne 
what Weslmiiittter Abbey and the Bodleian are to 
th*; history and litcrsiture of En^Unil "— were 
burnt by orders from the French beiid-finarters. 

In my next, wbieb will consist chiftiy of En- \ 
glish exttinpics, tbia scries of notices will be con- 
cluded. B, H. COWPKE. 
(To he continued.} 


The higfiest Jlower of tlie Roman law fulls in the 
time^ of the deepest decline of civil liberty, in tbe j 
second and third conturie^. Ttifj trreatcst jurist^ 
Pfipinian, was the Fre/echu Pnelorh of tiie greatest | 
tyrant, Caracalla. The organs of dtispotism, und 
even the ninnieipal decuria, had sank durin;^ the 
prevalence of tbnt biw to snch a depth of degra- 
dftlion, that criminals were eondcinned to accept 
the decury ; a post which nlm J<nvs and heretics 
were competent to fill, imd by which iliegiliumto I 
cbiblren were declared legitimate* The panegy- 
Tints of that law, such as Savigny and others, in 
vain try to persuade us, that not the biw itself, 
but its tyrannical application, bad wronght mis- 
chief in the country. They forget, however, that 
the eniptincas of a legislation showi^ itself not only 
bj tbe wrongs accruing from its own direct force 
and application, but also by the abac nee of thow 
provisions by which a wrong applicatiuu or inter- 
pretation might be prevented. 

In striking contrast with tlie abo\'e, standi the 
welfare and prosperity of the Enj^lish nation, de- 
- ipite the defects in their laws and judicial admi* 
nistratlon. The dilference between the two is, 
that the Rtjmans could not have been more un- 
happy even without their laws, while the Engliiih 
might probably be still more happy without theirs^ 
I, e, by reforining them. 

The laws of tbe Germanic nations were the 
^UMiation uf their times, customs, manners, and 
way of thinking; and they were consccjuently 
adftpted to their individual and national wants and 
necessities. The Roman laws, on the contrary, 
potsessed no nntional peculiarities. They found 
ft home in all countries, because ihey were at 
home nowhere : they might be adopted or dis- 
carded everywhere according to circuinstnnces ; 
they could In short be op [died to everything, and 
all cases, because they did not suit ony ca^e in 
Dirticalar. Db, Michelsbn. 

Spenjii^r and Tasso. — Although tlie " lovel/ 
lay' which, with the exception of one line, forms 
th« 74rh uTid 75 lb st^nz^is of Canto xri. hook ii. of 
The Fairie Queenly meets with neither note nor 
comment in any of the editiims of that poem to 
which I have referred, I can scarcely believe that 
its origin is unknown. 

The author of that frjigrant yohime Flora 
Domestica^ marks a "striking resemblance "* be- 
tween it antl a ptissage in Tasso ; an*! on referring 
to La Gerusalffttme Liherata^ \ find that is in 
reality a pretty faithful transdaticfn i»f the 14th 
attd 15th stan^a^ of Canto xvi. The cohifaarison 
of human lite with the frail fleeting beauty of tbe 
flower, ciin only become a poet's own by the man- 
ner of its tre;itment : for, as your rea^lers are well 
aware, the thought is lo be found in every litera- 
ture, and admits of almost en fl less illustration. 
Ita teaching here, as that of tbe poets of old, is — 

•* . . . , citraipie Juventam 
^t&tis breve ver» et pnmos carp«re tjorcs." 


Duratifm of a VmL — With the saying of an 
old laily in one (which?) of Mif^s Ferriers novels, 
as r(?ferred to in Lockh art's Lift of Smtl, 
chap. Ixiv. p. 570. (People's edition), viz. ** that a 
visit should not exceed three days, the resi^ the 
drentf and />rtf.»/ day,'' compare Plautus, Mil, Olor,^ 
iti. i. 145.: 

*'Hoapc« nullus in *mici hospitium devorti potest. 

Quid, ubi triduum ibi coutuiuum faoHt, jam odiostu 
f fiet;* 

P, J. F. Gantiixoh. 

** Muratorii Rcr, TtaV* — A large paper copy of 
Mitrniorii Re rum Itnlicanim Scripiores has been 
recently purchased for a public library. On col- 
lating vol. iv,, 1 found the paging to run thoa : 
pp. 353, 354, 355, 354. 359, *^^^, 359, SfiO. Tbia 
I found to be not an error in pnging, but a dupli- 
cation of pp. 354. 359., fliud a deficiency of pp. 356, 
357. On inquiry I found the xmalt paper copies 
correct ; and our copy has been couipleted by 
leaves tidien from an odd volume of one of those. 
From what 1 have learned, 1 believe the British 
Museum copy to be perfected in a similar manner. 
As some of your readers possessing copies of this 
work may not be aware of the above error, I 
hope you will not object to inserting the above 
tnemorandum in your valuable periodical, of which 
1 have been a most warm advocate from its very 
commencement^ though (from pressure of business) 
not a contributor to it, B, V. 

John Gait and Jeremy Taylor. — In Sir An- 
drew W^lie, the hero acquires tbe sobriquet of 
"Wheelie'' by calling out, when a four-jtWi. 
carriage passed him. ^\AV^a w^oiA'fioas*^'^^^^*^^^ 




dune, wee Wheelie ; tlie muckle ane catina catch 

The lame idea occurs m Jeremy Taylar*8 
Sermons : 

"Tlic hinder wheeU tliough bigger than tUe former, 
and mtJMures more groand at every revolution, yti shall 
never overtake it/* 

And in Persius^ sat. v. L 70. : 

** Nam q nam vis propc le, quAmvis tern one sub uno 
Vfirtentcm sese, fruatra Bectabere canthum ; 
Cam rota posterior cttrraa, ct in axe sccundo/' 

as quoted by Taylor. 
Is the same idea found elgewbere ? J. K. 

Tailed Men, — ^The reappearance of exploded 
errors, both in natural and moral Bcience, is one 
of the least satisfactory phenomena observable in 
the history of our race, 

I extract the following from old Furchas, on a 
subject now again preaeoted to the credulous 
public, I fear tbat we have not made &o much 
progress in the intervening 250 years as we some- 
times imagine. Writing of the Fhiiippiue Islands 
he says : 

" Lambri, the next kingdom, hath in it some men with 
tayle^, like doggea^ a tpanne loag." 

And of Sumatra : 

" They say that there are certaine people there called 
Daraqui Dara, which hatjc tayls like to abeepe," 

^'As for those tailed people (a dander by Bccket's 
ldgend% reported of some Kentish men, inEurious to that 
aoffrie Mint, and after applied to our wbole nation j many» 
indeed, esteeming the En^^Iiab to be tayled), Galvatio 
affirmeth, that the King of Tidorc told him that in tlie 
islands ofBattochina there were some wbick had tayies/' 

The monstrosities depicted by mediaeval limners 
are abundantly justi^ed by the descriptions of this 
worthy geographer. I cannot resist quoting a 
whole catalogue of wonders from the description 
of tho Moluccas, in which the itrange truth is 
outdone by the stranger fiction : 

^* In tliis iland are men hauing anckles, with spurrea, 
like to eockei; here arc liogi^iis vrith hornes; a riacr 
stored with lish^ and yet so bote, that it flaieth off the 
skinne of ony creature which entreth it \ there arc oisters 
fo large that thej cristen in tbe shells ; erabbes ao strong 
that with the cliiw» they will breake the yron of a pick- 
axe ; atones which grow like fbh, whereof tbey make 
lime." — l^urchoM Ait PUgtimaMy edit. 1613. 

S. R, P. 

John Shakipeare, — In a roll of the seventh 
year of Edward L, entitled 

** Placita corone coram Johanne de Rcygatc et aociis sais 
Juatifiariis itinerantibns apud Cantuar. in octabis Sancti 
nillarii anno regni Regis Edwardi aeptiuio, Salom/' 

occurs the following entry : 

" Danyd Panly snspendit se in villa de FrejTidett* Et 
Mario ta fil* p^dci Dan^'elia prima Invenlrix no venit ncc 

male de se credits £t fkit attach' p«r Wtllm Uoreoket 
Alanti Br\Te Ida in mia. Judin feloa de se cataUajpr^ 
DanielLs Lix. s uii Robs de Scot ho tic reapood* el W2I 
Palv et Rics Pallv duo vicini no Ten nee maletl. It 
Will* fuit attach^ p Petf Fabrii ot Johem Sbakcflfn 
Et Ric.^ fuit attach' p Gilbm atte Hok et WlUm de Fnjs- 
defii idi> in mia."^ 

I have not consulted any other documents b 
order to discover a farther account of ihis Job 
Shakspeare. Perhaps some of your readers mij 
be able to show some connexion with the poet'i 
ancestors. Wili-iam HfiaiAT ~" 

New Cross. 

Deaths in the Societg of Friends, — State 
of deaths in the Society of Friends in 
Britain and Ireland between January I 
December 31, 1854 : 

Under 1 year ♦ - 

Under 5 yeara - - - 

From 5 to 10 - 

„ 10 to 15 - 

„ 15 to 20 ' 

„ 20 to 30 - 

„ 30 to 40 - 

„ 40 to 60 - 

„ 50 to 60 - 

„ 00 to 70 - 

„ 70 to 80 - 

„ 80 to 90 - 

„ &0 to 100 - 



















Avern^e of age, 52 years, 8 months, 10 c-.^ 
One- third have attained 70 years and upwirli 
Many are total abstainers from stron;j drink. 

Wm. ColuHi 

Woodiide, Plymouth. 


CAKJS :*' I^NDON, 1671. 

Amongst the numerous dictionaries produced 
in Enjrland during the seventeenth century, thot 
existed one, cited largely by Dr* Skinner in hi* 
EUjmohgicon^ and which was known also to Rtjt 
entitled the Dictionarium Anglicum, I am de- 
sirous to ascertain any particulars regarding Ibil 
work, which appears to have comprised a remark- 
able assemblage of archaisms and worda of rut 
occurrence. It is wholly unknown, so far ai I 
can learn, except through the citationa by tk« 
authors above mentioned ; and the moat dti^geDt 
search for a copy has hitherto proved ineffectiiit 
The recondite character of the words given ffon 

* Tliejo numbers are iacladed in the next, 
5 years* 

m. 17. 1855.] 



by Dr. Skinner, amply «vifl5ce to excite curiosUj 

0ee the whole of a work which would probably 

■d much assistance In the mvestigatioa of 

lete and prortncial expressions. 

be only precise indication given by Dr. Skin* 

', in regard to this dictionary, occurs in the 

si part of his £t(fmotogicon^ under the word 

BARTEftf of which he offers the following deriva- 

lion : ** Author Dictionarii AngHci^ anno 1658 

edlti, uescio quam bene, a Lat Vertere deflect it." 

^H^ have found no other passage where the date of 

^Hbtiblication is mentioned* 

^^P I may observe that^ haying submitted the difS* 
^B^^ ^' tracing this book to Sir Frederic IVIadden, 
l^^of whose friendly aid in all such inquiries I cannot 
speiik without grateful esteem^ he informed me 
Inat he had long sought in vain for this dictionary 
BO copiously yxiod. by Skinnen The late ilr. 
Bodd, whose information in regard to the rarities 
of early lexicography and wort on language was 
rarely at fault, was likewise unable to afford any 
clue. Sir Frederic informed me that he supposed 
it might have been a dictionary published with 
■* initials only of the author, about the middle 
the seventeenth century. I thought at one 
e that it might have been an enlarged edition 
The EngUih Dictionaries by H* C-, Gent., 
ely, Henry Cockeram ; as may be gathered 
the signature to his Dedication to Lord 
>yle. Lowndes mentions the editions of 1632, 
^1^53, and 1659 ; and I possess those of 1G3I (the 
0urd, revised and enlarged) and 1655 (the tenth). 
The comparison of the words cited by Skinner 
fails, however, to identify his Dictionarium with 
the curious little production of Cockeram. The 
only work in which I have been able to trace 
iovne of the curious archaism s cited by Skinner, 
li tlie English Didionary by Elisha Coles, school- 
master, published about 1700. As, however, that 
ttuthor makes boast of his knowledge of English 
lexicography — and that he knew ** the whole 
succession from Dr. Culloker to Dr. Skinner, from 
the smallest Volume to the largest Folio" — it is 
Tcry po«sible that he may have transcribed the 
arcnaisms in question from the pages of Skinner, 
without even having seen the Dictianarium of 
which I am in quest. 

Books of this class are oflen of rare occurrence ; 
scarce a copy in some cases seems to have escaped 
the heedless destructiveness of schoolboys. In 
the hope, however, that this curious production 
may exist in the collections of some reader of 
"N. & Q.," I would invite attention to the 
nitmeroas citations which occur in Skinner*s 
Etymologicon^ from which I append the following 
examples. They will at least enable the possessor 
of any dictionary of the period to teat its identity 
with the Dictionarium Anglicum of 1658. 

In the first division of Dr. Skinners work, com- 
jAwg the more common English words traced to 

their derivation, he made comparatively little use 
of the work to which my inquiry relates. The 
following word is found, however, which deserves 
notice : 

" GowTa» vox qujD mihi in solo Diet Angl. occurdt. 
Author dicit esse Soroersetensi agro usitatiaBimuin, ii«aae 
Canalf^s Ctoacas seu sentinas subtenraneas deatgnare,** &c. 

A clue seems possibly here afforded to the 
county of which the author of the Dictionarium 
was a native, or with which at least he was moat 
familiar. I may refer also to the following words 
given in this first part of Skinner*s work, as de- 
rived from the same authority : Criplingt^ Gmiei^ 
Ilames^ Ilaphertlef^ Heck, Mammet^ Mond^ Pai» 
aage^ Portpain^ Poiades SorairtLt^ Tamiclen, &c. 

In the more archaic^ the fourth division of the 
EttfrnologicoHj comprising — 

^ Orif^oAtion&i omniitm rocum antiqimruai Aoglkamm, 
qa« ujqu« a Wilbelmo Ytctore uivalqeruat, et jam ante 
parenttim sctalem in mu esse desienmt,** -^ 

the citations are more frequent The following 
may serve as examples : 

** ABAnsncic, tox qom mihi in solo Diet AogL oocurrit, 
inter veteres AngUcia voces recensata, alioqui nunouam 
v«) locta Tel audita ; expooitur autem inuiiabilin,'' &c. 

** B uriay , rox yeoattca qam mihi in solo Diet. Angl. 
oocurrit, esp. lingua ^uam ego vix ioUrpretari posaum 
(the first port in putting oat a stages head) forte pHma 
pars comu cervi tenelli,** &c. 

** CKBRA.TA2TE, AuthoH IHct Angl apiid quem sol am 
occurrit (exp. a trunk to shoot out oo), Fistala pUanun 
Exploaoria, corrupt a Fr, G. Sarbatainc," &c 

" Co&Ur Author! Diet Angl. apud qiicm solum vox 
occurrit di(^it esse idem cam C>}tterell, et atruRKjoe Casam 
exponit, ridicule ut solet omnia; Cotterell emm Caaam 
eed Yillicam notat" 

** MusraxciiE, Aathori Diet Angl. apad qaem solum 
occunrit exp* a shoemaker's last a voce Lat. qtiam Festus 
ex AlVanio citat Mustricula,*' &€. 

** RrrriEii, vox qnao mibi in solo Diet Angl. occnrrit 
exp. ab Authore, a din?clion for the finding out of couia«a 
by Und or sea, alao an old beaten Bouldier/* &c. 

" Wrei^dt* vox qa» mihi in solo Diet. Angl. occtirritt 
Author (licit vocem esse Belgicam quod facilo credo* 
null us tamen credo esse Anglicam licet ceatiea jurarat, 
vox oritur a Belg. Wrccd, saivus," &c. 

These may suffice as examples. I might farther 
refer to the following: A/godness (impiety), 
Alifed (allowed), Aiiweald, BagaUU^ Berry fex- 
plained as "villa viri nobilis*')» Borith (a plant 
used by fullers), Fi^ig^ Qriffe graffe, or by 
♦' hook or crook," Hard (vacca pregnans)* 
Himple (claudicare), Jobling^ NacrCy Pimpompefy 
Tampoon^ 'Faudevil, and a mullitudo of ut!ier_ 
uncommon or obsolete words, many ot 
not elsewhere found. Skinner, it sho 
served, giyes his etymological obs*?^ ^' 

Latin; but it is probable that ih& U v^ 

Anglicum v»as com\it^sft^ vw'^^^^^* 

1 liave found no qvWt i*.uV\i^t qI "^^JflJ^ 
century ^\xo ^^V^^ ^^ ^^^""^ w^^a^ 



[Now 2W. 

the labours of his cotemponurj, with the exeeptioo 
of Ray. In his CoUectum of English Wordi not 
generally used (first produced in 1674), I find : 

** BiiAOOET, or Brahet; a sort of compound drink made 
up with honev, &c. The author of the English Dictionary, 
set forth in 'the year 1658, deduces it from the Welsh 
word 6rao, siirnifying malt; and oof», a honeycomh.** — 
P. 10., 'ind edit i.69r. 

I hope that some careful inquirer into the 
sources of English lexicography may solve the , 
sinfi^ular difficulty now for the first time, as I j 
belieTe, submitted for investigation ; and that the 
curious production, so copiously, though ungra- 
ciously, used by the learned Dr. Skinner, may be 
identified and rescued from oblivion. 

AiABKT Wat. 

BLOCK book: 


I have a scarce old book (Schedel Cronik^ a 
block book apparently), which upon its own au- 
thority was printed at Augsburg in 1896. It is 
in the ori^nal cover, and on the fly-leaf in front 
is the following note, written in a bold legible 
hand : ** Liber valde rarus teste Jo. Vogt in catal. 
libr. rar. & al. pi. W. Eichhold ;" and there are 
some other manuscript notes not very legible. 
But it appears to be doubted whether the date 
should be 1396 or 1496 ; and if you would give 
this letter a place in your valuable publication, it 
is likely that some of your readers will be able to 
clear up the doubt 

In considering this question, the following facts 
appear to be deserving of consideration. Printing 
by movable metal types was in use be/ore 1462, 
when, as we are informed, by the dispersion of the 
servants of Fust and Shoener, in consequence of 
the sacking of Mentz in that year, the mvention 
of printing with movable types was publicly di- 
vulgetl. (Knight*8 Old Printers, 169.) Before 
movable metal types were invente<], block books 
were in use ; and there is a print, dated in 1423, 
of St. Christopher bearing the Infant Christ. 
(Knight's Old Printers, 53.) By the invention 
of movable types the expense of printing was 
greatly reduced, and it is not very probable that 
ue book in question, which is a large foolscap 
folio full of wood engravings, should be published 
at the distance of thirty or forty years afterwards. 
If it not equally or more probable that it should 
have been published forty-four years before the 
invention of printing by movable types (in 1440), 
than fifly-six years afterwards? 

Should any of your readers desire to see the 
book, I shall have pleasure in showing it. 

Thos. Lbadbittbb. 
No. 8. Lanwlowne Place, 
Brunswick Square. 

Hymn-book wanted, — In tiie Every Mads 
Magazine for 1770 or 1771, about the middle of 
the volume, is a letter complaining of a new pra^ 
tice of adapting theatrical airs, and even the wordi 
of sonffs, to sacred purposes. The writer givo 
examples from a recently published hjmn-boo^ 
of which I remember two. 

*" The echoing bells call us all to the church. 
To the church my good lads then away ; 
The parson is come, and the beadle and cleik 
Upbraid our too tedious delay.** 

The second is : 

** Let gay ones and great 
Make the most of their state. 
Still running firom foible to foible ; 
Well! who cares a jot? 
I envy them not, 
\Miile I have my psalm-book and Bible." 
** Should the stage retaliate," says the writer, <« we » 
expect to hear a religious Hawtnome sinking psalms ssl 
a religious Macheatb preaching sermooa.^ 

I shall be much obliged by the fall title of the 
hymn-book, if known to any reader of •* N. & Q.* 
I do not approve the practice of qnoUng boofa 
from memory, but my excuse for so doing is, tkt 
it is many years since I saw the Svery Mat 
Magazine ; the library which contained it is dih 
persed, there is no copy in the British If useai^ 
and I have advertised for one withqut success. 


U. U. Club. 

Burton of Twickenham. — There is an andent 
monumental brass plate in the north aisle of the 
parish church of Twickenham, Middlesex, witk 
thb inscription : 

** Hie jacet Ric'dus Burton, nnp' capitalis maj' d*ri 
Re^s et Agnes un* ejus, qui obiit 28^ die Julii, A* Ikt 
MCCCCXLiu. qV a'i'ab*s p'pidet D*." 

To this is affixed the royal arms as borne bj 
Henry V. (who reduced the fleurs-de-lis to three^ 
but without supporters. As this person died 
22 Henry VI., it is possible he might have bdd 
some distinguished post under both monarchs, hot 
what that may have been I am not able to unrtrel 
from the words ^^ capitalis maj* ; ** and I reqaeit 
some reader of "N. & Q." will decipher then; 
and also, if possible, inform me where I can fiad 
some account of a person whom I judge to hatt 
been of some importance by bearing the king^f 

Coats of Arms of Prelates. — I should feel 
indebted to any of your correspondents who would 
give me the coats of arms of the followbg pre- 
lates :— Chandler, Sarum, 1415; Yonge, Callip^ 
1513; Wellys, Sydon, 1508; Pennr, Carlisle^ 
1509 ; Owen, Cassano, 1588 ; Underlull, Oxtel, 
1589 ; Rowhuds, Bangor, 1598 ; Owen, 7' 

Feb. ir. 1855.] 



1689 ; Ltivingtoii, Exeter, 1747; Harris^ Llandnff, 
1729; Burgess, Snrum, 18'25; B^tson, Clonfert, 
1804; Maltby^ Dunelua. ; Mimt, Down and Con- 
nor ; Lipscomb, Jmimica. Also any particulars 
of the lite of Lord George Murrav, Bisliop of SU 
DaTid*s ? Mackenzie w alcott, M.A. 

^ Adolescentia similis e^/," ^-c.— ^" Adolescentia 
aimiUs eat serto rosfe senectua serto urticiij/' I £nd 
tbJ!5 comparison called a proverb. An authority 
for tbe assertion, uxid an early instance of its use, 
would oblige A. CyALLSTSTH, 

** AciU mvum impietf'^ j-c. — 

*^ Actia icvutn impkt, »on Bcgnibtu tttniB." 

The aboviS epigrrapli is continuuUj ascribed by 
some to Ovid» and by otliera to Publius Syrns. 
But I can neither find it in one nor the other- 
Would any of your correspondents obligingly 
indicate it« author or origin ? M. (1) 

Gnrricft$ Portrait in the Ckanicter of Satan » — 
In a note on The Sisters, a novel by Dr, Dodd» so 
injudiciously written as almost to encourage the 
vice it proitssed to expose, it is staled tliat Gar- 
riek waa renuested by the artist, who illuairated 
Dr. Newton a edition of Milton, to give him the 
benefit of his wonderful powers of expression to 
assiat him in the conception of an illu!>tration for 
book iv. of Paradise Lout, — that the ecowl of 
malignant envy, with which Satan I^ represented 
m regarding the happy innocence of our first 
mrenta in that print, \$ therefore to be taken as 
Otrrick^a conception of the character. Can tliis 
be Bubstantiated Irom other autboritieB ? 


Chahner Famihj. — Mb. CoRfi eb will be very 
^ankful for any information rc3f>eoting the two 
Sir Thomas Chaloner^ from temp, Henry YIIL 
to James I., tbetr anc«atora or descendants, be- 
jond what is contained in the memoirs in the 
Biographia Britannica and Anthony 2t Wootrs 
At^iC'fiee Oxon.^ and the works there referred to ; 
and Mb. Cobneb is desirous of learning if there 
were any, and, if any, what connection between 
that family and the Chalonera of Sussex and 
Surrey ? 

3. Paragon, New Eont Eoad. 

George MiUer^ D^D. — In the Records of the 
Particulars of the Consecrations of the Irish Bishops 
since the Restoration^ of whicli a part ia appended 
to the last (February) number of the Irish Church 
Journal^ it is stated that Dr. I^I tiler preached the 
sermon on the consecration of Bishop Saurin in 
tbe cathedral of Armagh, Dec. 19, 1819. The 
author of Moilern Hijitanf Philosophicalig TUus- 
trtited was well known ; and I have many, if not 
the whole, of his publications. Did the serniou 
•liou ever appear in print ? Abuda. 

Bibliographical Queries, — Can you oblige me 
with the names of the reapective authors of the 
following pamphlets J* 

1. "Remarks occasioned by some Passag«a in Doctor 
Milner** Tour in Iroliind : Dublin, 1808.** 

2. " A Sketch of the State of Ireland, Past and Fr«fcwii 
Fifth Edit.; DuhVm, IttlU."' 

3. •* A Coram en tarv on the Procefsding» of tbe Catholiti 
of Ireland : Diihlin, 1S12." 

4. •' An AcKlrcsa to th<3 Public on bdiajf of the Poor: 
Dublin, 1815." 

5» ** An Inquiry into the Abases of the Cb§rtered 
Schools ia Irtland. Second Edit. : London, 1818." 

6, ** One Year of the Adnunist ration of the Marquia 
of VV'flllesley ia Ireland. Fourth Edit. : Loudon, 1^23," 


Passage in St, Augustine. ^Wherc^ in the writ- 
ings of St* Auguatine, can the ibllowing words be 
found: '*Unus erat, ne desperes; unus tantum, 
ne pi Ecsumas ?" E. D* R. 

Sir Thomas Bodleys Life, — I have in my pos- 
aetston a MS. autobiography of Sir Thomas 
Bod ley, with a copy of his will, &c. (pp. 1 10, 8vo.), 
and apparently in the handwriting of the early 
part of the seventeenth century. Can you give 
rne any informalion respect in*jf this interesting 
memoir of one to whom scholars are so deeply 
indebtetl, besides what has been recorded by 
Lowndes ? Abhba, 

Letters of James I, — It is mentioned ia Sir 
P. Francises Historical Questions^ that letters from 
Kinij James were printed by Lord Kaimes trom 
MSS, in the Advocates* library, Edinburgh ; but 
immetliattly auppr<3ssed for reasons there given, 
and not worth quoting. Is this true, and are the 
letters still in the Advocates* library ? L. J. L 

Reading iit Darhiess.^^ Joseph Justus Scallger 
said that he was able during darkness to read 
without the aid of artificial light; and moreover 
adds?, that the same power wfis possessed by Jerome 
Cardan and his father. This statement of Sea- 
liger is alluded to, and seemingly believed, by the 
writer of an article on Canlinal Mezzofanti in the 
January number of the Edinburgh Review, Do 
any of Scaliger's coteni[joraries mention thid 
faculty ? Is such a power of vii^ion physically 
possible ? Kdwabd Peacock* 

Bottesford Moors, Kirtoa-in-LindBey. 

Prayers aiul Sermon h^ Bishop Symon Patrick. — 
L In the year 1689, Dn Patrick published A 
Pratfer for perfectijig our late Deliverance^ and in 
} G90 4 Prayer for the King's Success m Ireland, 

[• By John Wihon Crokpr, Esq. On a fly-leaf bf a 
copy of tbe eighth edition before us is Iho fwllowmg MS. 
note: "First publijibed in 1808; the aevcatb edltiow^ xs^ 
1816. Being too even-hand%4^ W i^XwwsA. wi ^^^T^^L 
of any ftwtliQtt, Wl »X\ a^ma'sft. W tsj^ wi c*j^-^'«:^V^^ ^«^«^, 
I Iht V cry btaV imvlaXvitt ^ '1C ml\Y 







[No. 27). 

These have become scarce, and are not to be met 
with in the British Museum, Bodleian, Lambeth, 
or Cambridge University libraries. 

2. Watt (Bibl Brit) and Cooke (Preachfir's 
Assistant') ascribe to him an Accession Sermon on 
Psalm Ixxii. 15^ with the title Ad Testimonium, 
published in 1686. This is not included in the 
ordinary lists of his works in the Biographia Bri- 
tannica, &c. ; but there is no accurate list extant. 

I shall be obliged to anj of jour correspondents 
who will inform me if thej possess copies of the 
Prajers or Sermon* in question, or can direct me 
to any library which contains them. 

Alexander Tatlob, M.A. 

8, filomfield Terrace, Paddiogton. 

Works on India, — A civil engineer who is 
'going to India will be obliged if any of the 
readers of "N. & Q.'* will refer him to the best 
books, maps, &c. on the physical features of that 
country, particularly with reference to its en- 
gineering wants and capabilities, or descriptive 
of en^'neering works actually executed. ^ 

This information is wished for especially with 

regard to the presidency of Madras ; and if it be 

addressed C. E., care of Mr. G. Bell, 186. Fleet 

Street, on or before the 18th of this month, it will 

• be thankfully received. 

Story of the blind Man, — There is, if I recol- 
lect rightly, in an old jest-book, a story of a blind 
man whose basket is stolen from him, and he beats 
a post, thinking it the thief. If any of the 
readers of " N. & Q." can give the reference to 
this, it will confer a peculiar favour. S. D. L. 

Stone'Hcnge, — Where is the Stone forming 
•* Stone-IIenge *' supposed to have been quarried ? 
How many of the upright stones are now capped? 


AtboDKum Club. 

Flexible Moulds for Electrotype, — Can any of 
your scientific correspondents give me a good 
receipt for the above, so that casts much undercut 
can be copied in one mould? G. E. T. S. R. N. 


Society of Friends or Quakers. — Whan the 
name of any member of this sect of Christians is 
mentioned in the public journids, or any other 
print, whv is the fact that he is a member of this 
religious body invariably appended, the same care 
never being bestowed in publishing the religious 

[• The Sermon is in the British Afaseum. in a volume 
of Sermons collected bv Letsome, and entered in the new 
catalogue of *^ King*s f^amphlets : " the press-mark 226, 
C 18. J 

profession of the individuals of an j other con* 
munity ? G. Dtmohs. 

[We presume that it simply arises from the ftct tint 
the Friends as a religious body are seldom Ibimd takiu 
an active part in the political, scientific, or litenuy insti- 
tntions of the countnr, although of late yean thoe hin 
been a few honourable exceptions. In the cause of ha- 
manity, such as their efforts for the abolition of slavery, 
this marked distinction is not so genendlj observibb 
Besides, they are more easily distingoiahe^ from etkr 
sects by their peculiar dress.] 

Bishops in Chess, — What was the origbil 
name of those pieces which we call biahopi? 
Vida's lines are : 

" Inde sagittiferi juvenes de gente nigranti 
Stant gemini, totidem pariter candoro nivali ; 
Nomen Areipkilot Graii fecere vocantes. 
Quod Marti ante alios can fera bella laceaaant 
Continub hos inter rex, necnon regia conjnx 
Clauduntur mediL" 

['Api)f^tAo« is an Homeric epithet, signifying fbnd d 
battle, or devoted to Mars. The poet seems'to have sib- 
stituted it for the usual word dphvn or aJphi$i^ for the sab 
of the metre, and this ver^ appropriately, as the potoaic 
traverses of chess are a numicrjr of the tactics of war: 

** In either line the next partitions claim 
Two archers, AretphUi their name. 
Beloved bv Mars ; to whose distinmiish'd care 
Belongs the guard of each imperiu pair: 
The guards inclosing, and the pairs indoa'd. 
Are white and white to black and black oppos'd." 
In Rces*s Cvclopadia, wo read that ** the piece called the 
bishop has been termed by English writers afythin, a^ 
&c., from an Arabic word signi^injj^ an elephant; some- 
times it was named an archer ; by the Germans the hoani 
or runner; bv Kussiaus and Swedes the elephant; by 
roles the priest ; and bv the French the ybn, or fool 
When it was first introduced cannot be exactiv ascer- 
tained; as in Caxton*s time this piece was styled tlie 
elphin. Probably the chan^ of name took place after the 
Keformation.'* Sir Fredenc Madden, however, in Jf- 
chicologia, vol. xxiv. p. 225., has given the most satisfte- 
torv account of the original names of this piece : he sajii 
** l^he original name of the piece (bishop) among the 
Persians and Arabs was Pit or Phil, an elephant, undei 
the form of which it was represented by the orientals; 
and Dr. Hyde and Mr. Douce have satisfactorily proved 
that hence,' with the addition of the article a/, have beea 
derived the various names of a//!/, ar/?/, a/ferez, d^ptahu, 
aifinoy alphinOy alfere, aujfin, alfyn, atcfyn, iUfkyli, otfMt 
as used by the earlv Spanish, Italian, French, and Engluh 

Godderten, — AVhat is the signification of the 
word godderten, or godderf, which I have re- 
centlv met with in a MS. of the sixteenth cen* 
tury? T. HuGHBS. 


[Xares, in his Glossary, speaks of yoddard as a kind of 
cup or goblet, made with a cover or otherwise, but states 
that he can find no certain account of the origin of the 
name. Godard, according to Camden, means yodly thi 
cup; and api)ears to have been a christening cop.] 

Feb, 17, 1855.] 




(Vols. X. ftnd xi.) 

As several of your correspondenU have lately 
been mqttJrmg about some of the so-called Ox- 
ford jeux (Ti^jKBriiy it has occurred to me that it 
mifflit be w(?ll if some person qualified for ibe 
task would undertake to make a perinauent col- 
lection of those amusing but perishable articles* 
Xbey contain a great deal of Luniour, some salt 
ftEd spice, and no malice ; and in many of ibem 
will l>e found valuable allusions to men and things 
connected with Oxford and its institutions, which 
are now fast wearing out of memory, yet do not 
deserve to be utterly forgotten. 

My idea h^ that any collection of those pieces 
ouojht to begin with the Visiiatia fanaika of the 
University by the Comraiasioners under the Com- 
monwealth, an excellent edition of which was 
published about thirty years ago by a gentleman 
who is still living within fifty miles of Oxford, 
This ought to be followed by Thomas Warton*s 
admirable squib. The Companion to the Guide, and 
Guide to the Companion. Selections ought to be 
added from The Oxford Saitsogey and possibly 
from Huddes ford's Salmagundi ^ and his Wftimjiical 
Chaplet, And all these ought to be edited cum 
notis Scrihleri tt variorum. These pieces would 
bring us down to the productions of the present 
century, which are pretty numerous^ both in 
Greek, Latin^ and English, Those of their authors 
who are living should be requested to permit their 
effusions to be printed, and to accompany them 
with such short explanatory notes as the subjects 
may require, coupled with a due regard to the 
feelings of all parlies concerned. 

I trust that there will easily be found, among the 
present residents of the University^ some hel ejsprit 
willing to undertake the binding of this faggot. 
Of course the little volume would not be a book 
for the ol TQhXoli nor would it be bought by the 
at ^i¥iixoi (the dons) ; but still I think that some 
Mij or sixty kindred spirits will be found ready 
to subscribe freely for such a mui^enir ; or per- 
haps they would prefer to divide the labour, the 
costi and the copies among themselves. 

I throw out these loose hints for the consider- 
ation of your Oxford readers. If the idea should 
be taken up upon the foregoing plan, or anything 
like it — but not as a bookseller's speculation, I 
shall beg to be allowed to become one of the sub- 
scribers, undertakers, proprietors, or whatever 
they may choose to c^U themselves, in return for 
tbese suggestions. X, £. D. X. T. I. 


(Vol X-, p. 3770 

One of your correspondents, Wilwam S. 
Hi£8LiiDEH, of Bar ton -upon- number, forwarded 
you, a short time since, a vevj interesting specie 
men of the manner in which a '* Will and Testa- 
ment" was made in the rtign of Henry VIII. 
The will is dated in 1535, and made by one 
** Robert Skynner, of the pariah of St. John in 
Wykeford, in the citie of Lincoln;" and Mr. 
H£SL£i>£N seems desirous of obtaining such in- 
formation as may enable him to correct the pedigree 
of that very ancient family. 

Your correspondent says : " We have often 
heard of a distinction without a diifercnce ; and 
as an exhibition of the distinction between the 
will and the testament, I send you a copy of the 
will and testament of one of the Skynner family." 
Also another of your correspondents, Otmr, takes 
the same view as Ma. IIesledex ; and considers 
that the will is intended for rtal^ and the testa- 
ment for |3^r*ortffi property. Now I take leave to 
dllFer with both your correspondents on that pointi 
as I do not consider there is the slightest differ- 
ence between the " will and the testament** in 
the sense your correspondents understand it. 

It was a very common practice, at the period 
referred to, the making a marked separation be- 
tween real and per^mal property, and conse- 
quently the division into two parts i but by no 
means universal. I have now before me several 
wills of that period, some of which make the entire 
separation, as in the case before us of Robert 
Skynner ; while others make no difference in the 
form of the will and testament. One of the latter 
kind is thftt of one of the Vice- Chancellors of 
Cambridge University. And I have also another 
I one before me, which most clearly and strikingly 
shows the sense and true meaning of the phrase 
alluded to. After the usual preliminary descrip- 
tion, the will proceeds : 

" Beinge sicke in hotly by the visitatioa of God, but in 
fi-CMid and perfftctfl remembrance, lawd« and prake hii unto 
Hym, do make this my preacnl^ tesiatnanit^ cOte3*aingfl 
therein my last wyll^ in manner and forme following*,** 

Perhaps it will not be impertinent my remarking, 
that the word testameid simply means the witness- 
ing by a writing, that which the individual de- 
clares to be his last ivill ; and which is euthciently 
apparent by the Latin word iestamentumt which is 
evidently the tcstatio montis. 

In reference to the remark of Mr. Hesleden, 
that he has reason to think that the Robert Skin- 
ner, who makes the will with a copy of which he 
has favoured the readers of ** K. & Q.»" was the 
grandfather of Sir Vincent ^k^\vs\«t ofv "^\^'«t^^»^ 
College, in eo.«\^, \ X^^Vv^^ ^^'^ wTk 



[No. 277. 


tbe ancient family of the "Skynners" of tbat 
county ; and from the same fiimily (although at a 
very early period), according to tradition, the old 
family of the '* Skynners" of the county of Here- 
ford was descended. But the anna are entirely I 
diiferent, the Skinners of Hereford bearing — Sablo, 
A cheyron or, between three griffin a* heads erased 
argent. And there still exists in one of the old 
windows of the church of "Little Malvern," on 
the borders of Herefordshire (which formerly 
belonged to the monastery of the Benedictine 
monks}i the following inseriirtion : 

" Orate pro aQimabiia Robert i Skinner et Usbelle uxori* 
ejttfl, et filiorum auoram et fill arum." 

From a junior branch of tbia family was de- 
scended Anthony Skinner, of SheliVird Park, in 
the county of Warwick ; who married Joane, one 
of the daughters of Chief Justice Billinge, temp. 
Henry VL and Edward IV. Also, from another 
branch was descended the ancestor of the cele- 
brateci Dr. Robert Skinuer, Bishop of Oxford in 
the reign of Charles I. ; who is remarkable from 
the circumstance of his being the only bishop who | 
continued to ordain ministers during the period of 
the Com Dion wealth, and after the Restoration he 
was created Bishop of Worcester. 

A much- valued friend of mine, who belongs to 
the ancient branch of the Hereford Skinners, pos- 
sesses a Fcry curious history of the original family 
of the *' Skynnera ;** and which I think com- 
mences near the time of the Conquest, and which 
Appears to have been written upwards of a cen- 
turjr and a half since. And he has also a very 
curmus will of one of hia ancestors, Edward 
Skynner of Ledbury, in co. Hereford sli ire, made 
in the reign of Fhilip and Mary ; but as be is now 
in the country, I cannot ascertain the particulars. 
But should your correspondent Mr. Hbsleden 
wish for farther information, I feel quite certain 
my friend will be most happy to forward you any- 
thing which you may thinK at all useful or enter- 
taining, CUABTHAM. 


(Vol.x., p. 417.; Vol. xi., p. 71.) 
I readily reply to the inquiries of G. G. &b far 
at Jt (s in my power. 

John, the third son of Sir Bevil Grenville, suc- 
ceeded to the Stow property on the death of his 
two elder brothers without issue, and was created 
Karl of Bath. He rebuilt Stow about 16aO. The 
c«iar wamsoottings of the chapel, fOgreaUy ad- 
mired, were said to have been taken oat of a 
Spanish prize. He died 21st August, 1701, 
leaving an eldest son Charl4fs, who was created 
Viscount Lansdowue in his father's liletime, but 
who died from an accident a few days after his 
father, leaving an only son William Henry, who 

died under age in 1713, and with him the title 
became extinct. But the propertv appears to 
have descended, on the death of William Heofy^ 
to Grace, the sister of Charles^ and aunt of Wil- 
liam Henry, who was then the widow of Oeotge, 
Lord Carteret, and created Countess GrenTifle, 
and through whom it has come to the present pos- 
sessor. Lord John Thynue. 

George, Lord Lansdowne, the poet, was th€ 
second son of Bernard Grenville, who -was the 
fiflb son of Sir BeviL He was created Baron 
Lansdowne in 1712, and does not appear to htfe 
possessed the Stow property. The mansioii wn 
dismantled in 1720, and the materials sold bf 
public auction, George^ Lord Lansdow^ne, hio 
four daughters, three of whom died without issue, 
and the fourth was married to Lord Foley, hf 
whom she had issue. The last male branch of the 
line of Sir Bevil was Bernard, who wns the son of 
Bernard, the brother of George, Lord LsBS- 
downe, and who died 5ih July, 1775. 

Many boxes of letters are said to have been 
sent some years since to George, Lord Carteret, 
the late possessor of the Stow Ci^tate, and he ii 
reported to have committed them to the flamet 
A few original letters of Sir Bevil and his wife, 
and others, are still in existence, and also copief 
of other letters to and from Sir Berit and Wi 
family. Sir Bevil was in a direct line of descot 
from Sir Richard de Grenville, who endowed the 
monastery at Keath about the year 1100. Sir 
Richard waa one of the twelve kni^htg amot^ 
whom Wales was divided by Robert ^ itz HaiiMlli 
who conquered it ; but Sir Richard appears not 
to have retained the gift, but to have bestowed 
the whole on the monastery, and to have retuniei 
to By defordj where he was settled, T. £* B» 

h m III I 


(Vol X., p. 265.) 

The followinjr letter, the original of which is ill 

the possession of a friend of mine, seems pertinent 

to W. C.*fl inquiry. To whom it was addressed 

does not appear. G. A, C 

Lmn B'. 10th Novemh', 17S1. 


I am extrcnmly oblig'd to you fhr yo' kind 
remembrance of the 1** instant. And since I 
observe, by what you there mention, that you have 
been lately in London, I account it my miiiifortuaO' 
that I had not known it, because I vtylly believe 
I was in London at the same time, where t should 
have readily imbrac*d the pleasure of waiting 
upon yon, and have been proud to accompany you 
to Chelsea, when you went to dine there with 
S' Rob* Walnole, 

I left London a week sooner than I should have 

Feb, 17. 18550 



done in order to be in the country at the tirae when 
tlie D, of Lorrain was to come to Houghton, I 
dill* J at Houghton last Thursday, and observed 
that the preparations for tlie reception of his 
Hi^'hnestsc were very great. On Saturday his 
Hi^^hncFse came, and with him Count Kinski, 
CoiiDt Althuoj Gen'^ Nieubourg and Gcn'^ Die- 
mar, the Dukes of Grafton, Richmond, Newcastle, 
and Devonshire. My Lord Essex, Delaware, 
Scarlwrguriht Albemarle, Bultimore, Lovell, Fort- 
more and Lifford. Besides sever all persona of 

I was at Ho — n on Saturday last, and had the 
honour to he presented to ihti Duke of Lorrain 
(with »ome other gent'"), and al'^terward din'd 
with him in the Great Hall, at the most magnifi- 
cent entcrtainm* I ever yet saw. The table 
where the D. of Lorrain din'd was served with 
twice 26 dishes : and after that a noble divert of 
more (prepared by Mr. Lambert, the King's con- 
fectioner, who attends all the time to furnish the 
disert). The second table, where I din d, was 
twice servM with 16 ditjhes, and ofterw"* with a 
disert suitable. 

The greatest rariliefi were there in Vreatest 
plenty. And everything appeared with the 
greatest elegance, 03 well as grandeur, and iiianag*d 
with the greatest order and ceconomy. 

The same method of entertainm' will be con- 
tinuM all the time his llighne^se stays there ; w^** 
will be till Fry day next. 

The Duke himself appears to be affable and 
e*sy ; and after dinner was over, scera'd to be gay 
and pleasant as if he ljk*d his company, and made 
llimsclf one with them. 

The crowd of visitants upon this occosion is 
inconceivable. And the goin^r out in Ihe morning 
to hunt, looks more like an unnj than a body of 
sportsmen. I should have been in the field to- 
day, but that it has proved so thorough bad, that 
tt was neither fit for hunting nor visiting : to- 
morrow I hope I Bhull not be prevented. But 
I have already been too tedious^ and it is time (o 
put a stop to what might farther l:»e said upon 
this subject. 

I am very glad to hear Mr* Miisgravc is well, 
and I hope you will favour roe with the tender of 
my humble respects to htm. 

I take this opportunity, with pleasure, to kise 
ytmr hands : and to aeaure you that I am, with 
tiie greatest respect^ 
Yo^ most obedient and moit bumble 

Hmf. HARm, 
I must not forget my old friend Mr. Mason. 
I hope he is well. 

BBAK BiLi;, 
(Vol xi„ p. 49.) 

Since writing the preceding article, I bave ob- 
tained the following notices ol the family in Heci> 

A Dr. Bill was Rector of WallingtOD, baYinjg 
succeeded WiUiam De Thomtofk, who wa» inafti* 
tuted 2 Edwaid II. (Chauncy.) 

Roger Bill, cap., was instituted 20th August, 
1418, to the vicarage of Weston, by Bishop Re- 
pingdon of Lincoln. 

Roger Bille waslinstituted to the Rectory of 
Aspenden during the episcopate of Bishop Aln- 
wick (1436—1450). Walter Dale succeeded, 
Ifltb July, 1447, upon the death of Roger Bille, 

John Bill, Clk., S.TB., was instituted to the 
rectory of Letchworth, 13th February, 1597. 

John Bill, S.T.B., was instituted lo the arch- 
deaconry of St. Albans, a.d. 1604. (Clutterbuck.) 

Dr. Thomtut BUI received 12^. I Of. per quarter 
as one of the physicians to Henry VHL 

In the Prmceas Mary's ** Privy Purse Ex- 
penses," under June, 1543, is entered, **ltcoi^ 
payed to Doeto' bill for a wagier that bir gee lost 
to hyme, x /i." (Madden.) 

King Edward VL, by letters patent dated 
2nd ilarch in the fifth year of his reign (1551), 1 

granted the chantry of Rowney, tngeiher wiUi ^M 
divers lands, tythes, &c., in the parishes and places H 
of Rowney, Sacomb, S ton don, and Great and ~ 
Little Munden, co. Ilert?, to Thomas Bill, the 
late king's physician, and Agnes his wife, and to 
the heirs and asfii*|rns of the said Thomas Bill for 
ever, Thomas Bill, by his will dated Ist June, 
1551, devised these premises, after the death of 
bis wite Agnes, to his ilaughter Margaret, who ^ 
married Michael Harris of Grawell, co. Hants, ^M 
Gent, (compare with Burke's account above). ^^ 
Michael and Margaret Harris sold the estate In 
38 Eliz. (1595-6) to John Heiiiing the Elder, of ^ 
Rowney, yeoman. (Clutterbuck.) H 

Ann, wife of William Branfidd of Chtthall, one H 
of the daughters of John Byll of Aghwell, gentle- 
man, died 5 th November, 1578. Mont. Insc. at 

ClothalL (Chauncj.) Fatobci. 


(YoL X., p. 264.) 

Hozer is a misprint of Hojjer, a Swedish, not 
m German, metaphysician. Sturzenbechcr (Dw 
nene Schwedhche Literatnr^ p. 29., Leipzig, 1850) 
says that he had prepared to edit a new literary 
journal, and condescended (demnfhigfe sick) to 
solicit permission, but could not obtain it, as tne 
king thought one such wovk ^w^xiLij^^wt 'O^e. ^«i^^^^fc 
kingdom, SluTxeTi\j«s^WT ^V«^%Vv* ^^*^.r^S 
the ToyWl Jud^meivX. \i^ ^^aSXNTv^Vk^^Tk^ ^'^^ 



tNa 277. 

bsopher of Upaala," and his Tavoured rival, a 
cerUin (ein^m gewissen) Ilerr Wallmark, whoae 
Journal for Literaturen och Theatent issued ati- 
tiquiited and empty cntlcbm from 1809 to 1814. 

I have found no otlier notice of Htiijer, and tbe 
only work of his wliicb I know is entitled A/hand- 
lun^ am den Phihsophtska Constntctioiien, af Bonj. 
Carl H, Iloijer, Stockholm, 1799, pp. 202." The 
origjinal of the passage quoted by J, A,JE. is at 
p/ll9. : 

"FSrklarar den ci hocid den skall fiirklaraj den for- 
klorar ^enom en cirkel. Ti ngen cx^h realilaten akoia fSr- 
klara tingen &ch realitatL'n. Det absoluta tinget ar im 
driim ; men den i alLm^nna lefvemet atom den toma spe- 
eulatioaea gftllaade realitAtcn ilr och blir den enda ver- 
kllga, och bonrtages den, sa n>rsviiuit!r iifiren desa forkla- 

A bettor translation migbt be given, but mj 
knowledge of Swedish h very superficial ; and to 
translate metaphysics, one ought not only to know 
a language well, but to be familiar with its onto- 
logical phraseology. 

J» A, E. asks, "Was Hoijer a follower of 
Fichte ? ** I think not \ for, though giving Ficbte 
high praise for acuteness, and assenting to many 
of his doctrines, he dilTers often and too freely to 
be !ield a follower. I give this opinion wilh some 
difHdence, warned by the example of For tl age, 
who 19 reproached by Frauenstadt (Briefe ither 
die Schopetihmieriche Philosophies p. 4^.) with 
classing Schopenhauer among Beneke and the 
realists. When two such xnQn dilfer as to the 
meaning of a third, writing in their own language 
on matters with which they are thoroughly con- 
versant, a foreigner may well be cautious. 

H. B. a 



Bromo-iodlde of Silver. — Tout correspondent Bno^o- 
lOniDE, who cororaenced thia chemie&l debate last No- 
Tfiraber, will be gratified to iind that Mit. Lyte and Mr. 
Leacuman admit Ids real existence^ and that the only 

Practical quGstloa is how to throw him down. Ma, 
KACUUAN confirms mv statement that the whole of the 
aiWer in a aolation of the doubk broinye and double 
iodide <yf silver, is precipitated bj water. Hence it is only 
XMceuaiy to prove that in mixing these solutioaa the 
bromide of silver is not converted into iodide. Xow it is 
ascertained by experiment that erjnal quantities of bro- 
mide and of iodide of ailrer require the aamo quantity of 
iodide of potjaainm to effect their perfect solution. Thus, 
80 grains of each of the former are dissolved m G50 graina 
of the latter^ and a lew quantity is insafficient liut if 
80 grains of the bromide are to be converted iato the 
iodide, It would i*e^tiiire 74 grains of iodide of potassiumi to 
supply the reqnisite quantitv of Iodine t and a perfect so* 
lution of the precipitate coufd not be eflected without 724 
grains of iodide of potassium, whitih is contrarT to ex* 
perimcnt Moreover, the conversion would be farther 
proved by the change of the pecali&r whiteneaJ of the 
bromide into the characteristic yellow tint of the iodide, 
which sgiiia k contrary to experiment The case of tbo 

double bromide and double iodide is still stronger. 
here, if the former robbed the latter of 74 ^nuna of ii 
of poLa^^slum, a lnrg:e precipitate of iodide of silver i 
be immediately formed on mixing these aolotioiM, 
penmen t, therefore, appears to coodroa both my U . 
and my fact^, and practical men may attack itd i 
green &a readily as blue and white. 

Ma. Leachmajv is also in error in sup, 
compare Da. Dtamoxd*8 solntion with ** ordfnarvl 
paper.'* lie will find, on reference to mr note 1o 
p. 172., that 1 compared it rigidly with ** Mr. 
calotypc paper.*' Tbc former, as he is well awsrWl 
washed for at lesst four hours in many changes of i 
the latter, after remaining for one or two miniiLaiil 
solution of iodide of notassiom, is merely dipped M 
water, and consequently ia very far from being mefel 
that compound, which ^eatly impairs its sensibilitjr* * 
fact, there is as much differetice l>etween the well-n ' 
paper and the dip, as there is between a pint of l . 

Fure and a pint of brandy mixed with & qaart of wrtil 
admit that Dn. Dia'moxd's paper is not sopoiclt 
*'ordii»at7 calotype paper" in sensitiveness^ but < * ~^ 
especially in lis action on those tints ux>oa w 
iodide of silver can make no impression. X ] 

I have been ven' much pleased with reading i 

cussion which ban taken place in " N. & Q,»* relativf I 
my recommendation of bromo-iodide of silver for nt^tSt 
calotype pictures ; and 1 trust even to your ooQ-pktil' 
graphic readers that this friendly controversv ha* at 
been useless. It may induce some to undertake pMi* 
graphic views when they learn that the greens of a lisfr 
acapc may be much more perfectly delineated ibm 
formerly j for no doubt the indistinctness of delineslioaa 
this respect has caused an indifference in manv to attcaipl 
photographic productions. I will not say one word k 
addition to what I conceive Mn. Reai>e has so ably iilfi& 
beyond bearing witness to the accuracy of the erteri* 
ments whi^^h have been conducted in elucidation r«f tit 
que^tioa; but I appeal to the practical reatiltSw If I i^^ 
the inclosed landscape has all the detail in foUoge vb^ 
an artist woul<1 t>estow or desire, and that this ronlt i* 
obtained on paper prepared as I have suggested ^ 
bromine a* well as iodine, and if I find contrary lawHl 
when iodine alone ia n.'scd, I think the argument of is*- 
ginary decomposition having taken place to be perftcfly 
set aside, 

Ajjain, will you cast yonr eye on the inclosed puftwH^ 
of a well-known antiquan% taken in a few seconds M i 
dull December dayj in one, the itcarlet coat and dill 
trowsers» and in the other the tabard, Tvith all its vstmwI 
colours, are dellnented with all the proper gradatioft ^ 
tone. The collar of SS even is not safarUed, sattChtf 
benefit 1 attribute to bromins': being the mitigation of tbi 
over-exposure of the high lights. It may not be ioip- 
propriatc hero to make a reference as to 'the diflewoo* 
between actual practice* and mere scientific theory with- 
out it ; for it ha» been observed by some that a fractianii 
part of a drop of a I trie acid added to the nitrate of saltw 
bath, completely dej*troy9 its power of producing rapidlj 
good pictures; whereas the bath used on this occasioB 
was made with a sample of nitrate of silver *o stroo|'<' 
nitric acid that the cork and leather with which it wii 
secured in the bottls were destroyed hy the fumet of Um 
free acid« Huou W. DiaicavSk 

[We liave of course seen (he photographs atloded to fej^ 
Dn* DiAMoxo, and can bear testimony to the accuncf 
with which that gentleman describes the peculiar ch*» 
rtw:UT\sXic* ^\iic?a \.\tcv ft^sSiMV— ^o. *• K. i Q."] 

Feb* 17. 1855.] 



PkttOfFOfJ^ LikemuMt of Sddiert and Saihn, — rt has 

' ' ' occurred to me what a treasure the rrieods ^f a 

idTaCe, n^a-cooitiiissiooed officer, or A. B., would 

er » photographic Ukenesa of their absent herp ; 

I diAt perhaps too. in the micbt of London and photo- 

hj. miffbt he ahle by jroorself or bv others to organise 

\9tOA wherebjr eTerv aoldier or sailor, before embark- 

; OB service, might be able to leave behind with his 

I ffoch a memento of hitaself. 

i must be, I thoold tlunk, many a tkilfal amatenr, 

nng furnished with materials and bis ex peases 

J would be plesMd to attead at the barracks, or at 

port of embarkatioii» and take the likeness of each 

r fellow who presAoted himself with an order {torn his 


What difficulties thef« may be in the amount of labour 

r exp«DS^ not being a photographer* I cannot estimate; 

Dt ii foa think the idea worth proposing to tbe public^ 

I ahatl he hmppr when the scheme is started to sasist it 

I miAif odsitributioa as I caa afford. 

Jawu VitalU (Vol. x., p. 523.). —The poet 
^tis (or John) Vitalii*, of Palermo, died in 1560. 
le must be distinguished from two others of the 
Bame Dame, priests of the fourteenth century ; one 
a cardinal, and the other a writer for the imnm- 
culatc conception- With the exception of aome 
scattered epigrams, the only work mentioned by 
Fabricius as printed is MediL in Ps, li,, Bonon. 
1553, 8to* Fabricius refers to Ant. Mongitor, 
BibL Sicula, T. L p. 305. M. 

He was a divine and poet of Palermo, who died 
about 1560. His writings arc : 

* MetUtationes in Ps. 11 , BotioniK, 1553, 8vo. ; Para- 
p&nau in Ft. cxxx, et Ps, Ijcvii,, Ibid. ; Hymni in An- 
«los^ «t Poema de Archangelo ; Eptthshimium Christi et 
Beeloaiat, Ibid. ; De Elementis, de Pieute erga Rempub. 
d Hjmmiis de Facet Itoma, 1651^ Epigrammata ^^ana^ 
nhtiA in Pauli JovLi elogiis ut risque riroruro litteris et 
beQica laode iUustrium, ct in Deliciis Po«taram Italia 
Gniteriania, tom. ii. p. lill, ^.; Bellum A£ric« illatom 
m Swill w Fforege Joanne V>ga ; Klogia Roman orum Pon- 
iiigHMHV et Julii III, atrjue Car<linallum ab Ipso creatorum i 
Hrlniphus FerfHuandJ Francisci Daroli Aquiitatis Magai 
Fiaoame March tonis et lacrymn in eundem ; Themtoriziou 
Siva da Monstns/* &c 

Tbe abore account is taken from the Bihlioth, 
Latina muL et in/, ettatia of Jo. Alb. Fabricius. 


The Episcopal Wig (VoL xi., pp. 11. 72.).— 

F. ts in error, when he says that the Hon. 

ward Lep^ Bishop of Oxford, was the first 

o left it off; so 15 your previous correspondent 

AsTTi-WiG, who a«cribeii ils disuse to the present 

Bi^Ii^ t» of London. It was first abandoned by 

: i chard Bagot, late Bishop of Bath and 

1 r the express permission of George IV. 

e biabop) waa a remarkably bandiw)me man ; 

aaj years before he wm eler&ted to the 

Benchf the Prince Regent bad said to him, before 
many witnesses (no doubt much more in joke than 
earnest) ; *^ It would be quite a shame to put yoa 
into a bishop's wig. Remejnber, whenever I make 
you a bishop, I dispense witb your wearing it." 
Accordingly, when towards the end of the reiffn 
he was nominated to the See of Oxford, lue 
bishop reminded tbe king of his promise, and, not 
without some difficulty, prevailed upon bis Majesty 
to release him from this preposterous bead-gear. 

The Bishop of London speedily took advantage 
of the dispensation ; but not immediately, since 
those whn were present at the coronation of 
William IV. may remember that Bishop Blom field 
olHciated in the orthodox peruke. That Bishop 
Legge always wore it, many an All- Souls man 
can yet testify. B. (2) 

The Irish bishops do not appear to have woni 

"Archbtahop Mageef in protesting against the Tithe 
Bill, and other innovations on tbe Church of Ireland, 
said that the fate of the English Church was involved in 
that of the Ifihh one. 'Pardon me,* says Lord Welles- 
ley, * the two churches differ materially ; for instance, the 
Engliah bishops wear wigs, and yoa do not wear any. 
Ill wig you, if you do not take care' " — Moore*s Dkay, 
i¥. 141. 

LIacketizis Walcott, M.A. 

Portrait at Shotesham Park (Vol. x., p. 4650- — 
At the Visitation of the county of Norfolk in 1664 
a short pedigree was entered, by which It appears 
that Richard Pead, of Garboldisham, in that 
county, gentleman, then living, was the son of 
Thomas Pead. His arms were : Or, on a bend 
azure, three human feet cooped above the ancle 
argent. Crest : a cbapeau gules, turned up er- 
mine, ornamented with two (ostrich) feathers or. 

5i> Thomas Tresham fVol. xi,, p. 490* 7* In 
addition to the works mentioned as containing 
notices of Sir Thomas Tresham, I would call the 
attention of E. F. H. to a littlii book by Mr. Bell 
of Barnwell, in the county of Northampton, on the 
family of Tresham. It 'is entiiled The Ruins of 
Liaefien ; with historical Notices of the Family of 
Tresham and its CotmeTton rmth the Gunpoteder 
Hot, It may be purchased, I believe, from the 
author^ or from Mr. Russell Smith, Soho Square. 

G. E.IL 

In the Visitation Book of tbe County of North- 
ampton, a pedi^ee of Tresham was entered in 1618. 
Sir Thomas Tresham, of Newton, in that county, 
knight, was the sou of ^laurice Treshara by Maria, 
daughter of Edmund Ddingsell<, of Ichingtont 
in the county of Warwick ; and married Anne, 
daughter of Bartholomew Tate, of Del aprct near 
Northampton, Esi^., hj whom be bfluA k^^<i HenrY 
Tresbam, bw son ai\^ W wr*\^ijcc^^x. V^^V^^^^^ 
Abigail, daugUet ot C^^V Ciix^ ^l %\»»Sss^ 





Es<|.) ; Tliomas Tresliam, of Newton^ his second 

aon^ who iti:irpled Elizabeib, daughter of 

Dtckinson, of Manchester, and seTerAl daughters. 


Jennefts of Acton Phce (Vol. xl, pp. 10. 55.}. — 
Your curregpomieiit Q. D. has given with perfect 
ftccurai^y the devolution of the vast property of 
Mr. J^iiiiena, reiil (ind pcrfloniil. Can he authen- 
ticate the following anecdote ? I have heard it 
upon authority so apparently unexeeptiooabie, 
that I know not how to doubt it. 

Mr, Jen nens was supposed to poasesa a Banlc 
of Kngland note of 100,000/. Two of this pro- 
digiouif antoiint had been iFiJued by the Bank 
since ita institulion. One had been returned 
jears a^o, and cfl.ncelled ; and the other was 
universally considered to be in Mr. Jennens's 
possession. He had the habit of hoarding and 
aecretin^ his money; and he left a written memo- 
randum, directing his executors to iieaioh in such 
places for sueh and such aumgif specifying how | 
much in notes, how ranch in coins, &c. Every 
direction was strictly accurate, except that which 
referred to the Leviathan note. I'hat note was 
miasing. It was not in the place indicated, and < 
hm never been recovered. Such is my story, ' 
Query, Is it true ? B. (2) I 

Piolm^iingiitg and Nonconformists (Vol. xi., 
p* 65.). — Jonn ScainE will probably find an 
answer to bis question in the Poet of the Sanc- 
itiary, a centenary commemoration of Dr. Watts, 
by Josiah Conder {Snow, London, 1851). This 
book contains an essay of an historical chftracter 
upon the anbject of psalm and hymn ainginjj^. If 
John Scribe can refer to Ainxworlh on the Pen* 
iateuch, he will find in the early editions botb 
rhymes and music at Exo<L xv. and Dent* xxxiii. 
Ains worth was one of the carlieat who adopted 
the principles of Independency. The fact appears 
to be, that while bad iiin;^ing charucteriiied all 
classes of British Protestants till a recent period, 
it was worst anions Dissent era. This arose piirtly 
from the acknowledged circumstance, that many 
of them refuiied to sing any human compositions. 
But it is certain that next to nothing of value was 
either written or borrowed by the Nonconformista 
to be used by them in the worship of praise liil 
the last century. There are other reasons which 
lie deeper, but which are aearcely suitable for 
these pages. B. II. C. 

^'BelchiW (Vol. K., p. 508.).—! beg, through 
your communicative publication, to inform Afa. 
Davevet that a MchUd is a grandchild ; and in 
confirmation thereof, I give the following extracts 
from e*rly wills : 

** John Pwter. of Long Stratton, by will, dated xiiij 
dAy« of Jaly, mcccccxui, bequctha to ©che of hii bd- 
ckudren, v'uL j tad every of my godchildrMi» iifjd" 

** Agnua Bomp'hs, by will. Anted the ^vr»t tl^yt of 
March, M.rcccrxi.itii, Ibcqiieth to either of hey belchi'bif<m, 
Agmt» CowpR (otherwise Knott), and Isabell her nstes; 
xxd.\ anti liw|«pth to cither of my godchildrpn, J«hi 
Ffbcke and Stephen Freckc, rj«. viijrl. Also b«ao«lb la 
Bcbe of my brichildrtn^ WJIliam Cowle the yong«er« MarMa 
Bowie, and I^f argaret Bowle^ iijt. uijd Also bequetlT 16 
Ros« Aldre<h vj«. viijc/- ; and to my godeliilil, Agait 
A hired, xxiJ." 

In another will, of about the same period. Is; 

** I {jive to John Grnhe, my Mrhild, one cowo; t^ 
delivered at the age of xij yerea of the said John Gi 

Archdeacon Nare*^, in his Glossary^ ex^ 
hehyre um\ beldame to be grandfather and jfrti 
mother ; though hehfume is now applied as a tenntf 
disgrace^ as is the term " wench"— ^ which former^ 
was used respectfully to young Udies of tbe most 
respectable fauiibesj and even to ri»yaUy. ($€< 
Nares under the latter term, Wench,) 


Deoth of Dogs (Vol xt,» p. 65.). — A circiOBo 
stance of the same nature as that described b^ 
your correspondent IL W, D. has just happeoN 
in Surrey ; a fjentleman having about a for^ 
night since lost three valuable dogs, which were 
supposed to have been poisoned : on examlnatioi^ 
howeverj no traces of poison were found in tiie 
stomachs. I shall endeavour to find out whether 
any others in the neighbourhood have sufFered 
losses of the same sort, and, if so, communicaU 
the fact, OS well as anything else that may tend 
throw a farther light on the subject. J. S, 

OIJ Broad Street, 

Dying Words of the Venerable Bede (Vol. x^ 
pp. 139. 329.). — The passage from Cicero's Zrf- 
ters^ wherein the expres^^ion "ainimento tempt* 
rato** cKcura, would seem decidedly to favour tht 
interpretation put on the wor<l tempera hy Rwi* 
CASTRENSfs and Sir Emerson Tkknbkt, Perh^ 
the folio wingt lines from Peraius may deserve * 
paasing notice, and tend to illustrate the practiee 
of moiftteninif or diluting ink with water, to 
they have alluded : 
** Jam liber, et hicolor posltia memhrmna capilti^ 

Inque Diana i chartse no^losaque vcmt anindo. 

Tuni qnerimar, crassos calamo c[UOil pcndeat humor 

NijErra q|ucKl infuta vtnescat s^pia /yw^a ; 

Dilulas qn*;rimur gemioet quod fi-^tala gnttat.*' 

SaL ni. 10— J4 
In connt?xion with the mention of Bede, 
observe, in looking over Dr. Burton*s Desi 
of the Antiquities of Uome^ it is stated that 
remains were said to have been buried under 
stone near the silver gate of the old church 
St. Peter's. A resident in the diocese of Dui 
may be excused for disbelieving this tra^litian. 

E. n. A. 

Oettfon (or Jtdian) Bowers (Vol xi., p. 65,). — 
I find the following extract in my common-place 
book, undet the bead of ** Julian's Bower, netr 


Feb. 17. 1855.] 




Aukborough, Lincolnsliire ;" but I have omitt«d to 
note the work frotn which it it tiikeii« I belie?e 
it la from some couoty hi story : 

" The places called Julian Bower» are general I j foand 
Bsar Eomsn towna. They are circular works mnde of 
biuiks of eartlLr in form of a maze or labyrinth. Dr. Stukeley 
tiiiuks it wa« one of tl)« old Romou gamc«, which were 
brought to Italj from Tro}-; and that it took iu name of 
hower from bitrough^ or earth- work » not Ixjwer or arbour^ 
and Julian from Jnlus* son of ^Enca^ who introduced it 
into Italy, according to Virg. jEh. v." 

J. R. M., M.A. 

(Julianas Bower is noticed in S(ukeley*s IHmr a n um 
Vurionim, p. 9L Tbe pdasage quoted by J. R, M. Ooctm 
in Allen's Lincolnahire, toI. iL p. 220. n<Ae*'\ 

Dial (Vol XL, p. m.). —If Mr. Scribe will 
inarch the old book* stalls for a book, cnlled 
Mechnuick Diallings or the New Art of SfiadowJi, 
hj Charlefl Leadbetter, 1737, he will find hjs 
quettion answered i for it prol esses to show bow — 

•■ Any perwMJ, thongh a stranger to the art, with a pair 
of OOniMnes anil a ruler only, may make a dial upon any 
plane (or any place in the world." 

He will qUo reap no small amusement from what 
IB called by Mr. Lead better *^ a choice collection 
of mottoes in Latin and English/* the transla- 
tions being more distrnguished for freedom ihan 
acctiracy. As for example : 

** Dies dk'm tnulit, 
♦ A day kicks nie down ! ' " 

« Ita vilfl. 
• Such is life's half circle II'" 

•• Sic transit gloria muiuli. 
' So marche*^ the gud of day.* " 

** Ant Cfcaar aut nihit 
* I shine or ahroud," '* Stc, 

Let me. take this opportunity of thanking very 
■incerelj those of your correspondenta who have 
eontribuled to the collei.'lion of genuine diul 
Hiottoes. A very beautiful one might perhaps be 
added lo the li&t in the text — 

" Watch, for ye know not the honr*" 

In these days of revival of old churcb architec- 
ture, it seems a pity that the dial over the porch 
abould be totally forgotten. He&m£s. 

See that most useful of all pocket-books, The 
Literary aftd Scientific Hester and Almanac for 
1854, p. 48. J. D. 

Doddridge and Whiif/ifld (YoL xi., p. 46.).— 
Mb.. Bingham considers it an "astounding fact" 
that one of Doddridjie's sermons should appear in 
n volume of Whitcfield*a as the production of that 
celebruteii preacher* He does not, however, aay 
whether Whiiefield himself publibhed, or rather 
Tepubbsbed the acrmorit or whether it was not 
included in a posthumous collect iun of bin dia- 
ooorsesf There have been Beveral instances of 
tluft laat kind. A preacher borrows fur an occa- 

sion a sermon by some good author ; which Is 
found accordingly, but unuckuowledgt^d, among 
his monutfcnpts. His friends, in presenting ib^ 
world after his death wiili a specimen of his 
method, select the best they can discover, and 
inndvertently include, among the discourses pub* 
b'shed, one or more not his own. The last example 
that 1 remember of such ao oversight occurred 
in the fjosthumons publication of the sermons of 
the late Mr. Suckling of Bussage. This error of 
the first edition was detected, and subsequently 

A much more striking instance of bold appro- 
priation 13 mentioned by a modern author, giving 
an account of the excellent commentary on the 
Bible compiled by the famous and uuforlnnate 
Dr. Dodd : 

** What is extraordinary," he says, "with respect to 
it (the Commmtarv) js, tnat it was repuhllahed as an 
original work by Dr. Coke the Hethodial, with aeyeral 
retrench TO entj, but with few, and those animportant, 

That this statement contains no exaggeration is 
evident, from the testimony of Dr. Adam Clarke, 
contained in the ** General Preface" of the last 
edition (Tegg, 1844) of his Commeritiiry on the 
Bible : 

" The Rov. Thomas Coke» LL.D-, has lately pnbliuhed 
a Comm^Htaiy qh the Old and iV>K' Trstiimmt, in 6 vol*. 
4co. I'hiji is, in the main, a reprint of the work of Dr. 
Doild ; with aereral Tctrenchin«:i)ta, and some additioual 
reflectiwna . * * . Dr* Coko should have acknowledged 
when re he collected bis materials, but on this point he is 
totally silent." 


7. Lower Jam^ Street. 

Two Brothen with the same Christian Name 
(Yol. X., p. 513.), — The younger son of James HI. 
of Scotland, who was created the Duke of Roiis 
and Marquis Ormonde^ was christened James ; 
though his elder brother, afterwards Jnmes IV*, 
bijre the same name. Having determined on 
becoming an ecclesiastic, he was nominated to the 
primacy when not more than twenty-one jears of 
age, and died Archbishop of St. Andrew's in 1503. 
(Vide Lyon*s Biatari^ of SL Andrew' s^ vol. I 
p. 244.) 

Another instance occurs in the Seymour familj. 
The first Duke of Somerset, brother-in-kw of 
Henry VUL, and uncle of Edward VL, was twice 
married. Sir Kdward Seymour, ancestor of the 
present Duke of Somerset, was the son of his lirst 
wife. Edward^ Earl of Hertford, who married 
Lady Katharine Grey, was the son of his second 
wife. The dukedom of Somerset and barony of 
Seymour reverted to the elder branch of the 
family on the exiinetion of the younger bratich, 
according to the singular terms of the original 
grant. (Vide Nieolas'a iSifaopti* <4 ^^ ^*^^\^ 




Uooncay Ifiscriptions (Vol. x., p. 253.). — Tlie 
following inBcriptlons are so placed over the arcb- 
way of tiie Forth Mawr (great gate) at Llanover, 
tUe residence of Sir Benjamin Hall, near Aber- 
gavenny, ihat the first meets tUe eye on entering 
the grounds, and the other on leaving them. The 
beauty of the original We!ah is necessarily much 
lessened in the translation here annexed^ for the 
use of those who unfortunately are unacquainted 
with that fine and ancient language : 

^m Old Pulpit Inscriptions (Vol tx., pp. 3L 125.}. 

^H — To tbe inscriptions which I have already given 

^H may be added tbe following from St. Helen's 

^M Cburcbj Seftou, Lancashire^ On tbe pulpit : 

^™ " He that covereth his sins shall not prosper, but vho^o 

I confeaseth and ftiraakeili them shall have mercie; happj* 

t h tba man. Anno Domini 1^33." 

*' Pwy wyt, ddyfodwT? 
Os cyi'aillj f^v'timu. caloa i ti! 
On djeithr^llfiitwgarwrch a*th erys; 
Os oelyu, add fuy tider a'th garchara." 

( TraTudation.) 
*' Who art thoa, travelkr? 
If a fri^iid^ the welcome of the heart to thee! 
If a stranger, hospitality shall meet thee ; 
If an enemy, courteay shall inipriaon thee,^^ 

" Ttnadawydd hynAWB, gad feuditbf 
Ar dy ol : a beuditbier dithaa. 
le chyd a hawddfyd it ar dy d&itb, 
A de^wydd ddychweHad," 

( TruHshiion.^ 
' Departing gae^t, leave a blessing 
On tbv footstepa; and may»t thou be Ideated, 
Health and prospedly be with ihee on thy jouraer, 
And happiuess on thy return.** 

On the sounding-board : 

" My soni fear thou the Lord and tha King, 
And meddle not with them that are given to change,'" 

Hmvenhj Guides (Vol xi,» p, ^5^). — I think it 
not improbable that the work about which Mr. H, 
C. Wabue inquires, is an early edition of th« 
following r 

** Thiij Plojne Alan's Pathway to Heaven; wherein 
WMiy Man may clecrely see whether ho shall be saaed or 
dil&D^ct Set rbrth Dialogue -wise, for tbe better Vnder- 
Itoiuling of ihe Simple. By Arthur Dent, Preacher of 
the Word of God at bouth Sbooberr, in Essax. Th« One* 
and- twentieth Edition : London, 1&3L" 


« The Plain Man's Pathway to Heaven j whcr*in every 
Man may clearly see wliether he shall be saved or damnert. 
Set forth Dial oji^ue- wise, for the better Understanding: of 
tha Simple, Bv Arthur Dent, Preacher of the Word of 
God it South Shooberj', in Kasex," 

was reprinted in 1831 by Baynes of Paternoster 
Row, from the 7tb edition of 1007. The work is 
considered to have been written about 1590 j and 

must have been very popular, aa a copy published 
in 1704 ia stated to be the 40th edition ; and that 
by compntationj one hundred thousand copies 
have been aold. The matter is curious, and the 
language quaint. The chapter against '* Pride 
of Dress" seems to have furnished Hamlet with 
some weapons of abuse against tbe fair sex in the 
numierif scene with Ophelia. L. A, B, W. 

P. S.— R.C.W. calls it the ''Poor Man's Path- 
way," &c. 

Curious Itwideni (Vol. xi., p. 63.)» — ^The plaj 
in which this passage occurs is, I believe, Speed 
the Plough ; but 1 have not a copy to refer to* 

L. A. B. W, 

Capital Punishments in Henry VIII* s Re^ 
(Vol. xi.^ p, 21.). — I have no disposition to plaid 
for the truth of the fact alleged by Hume and 
Macaulay, on the authority of Harrison, or to 
lessen the weight of ila. Walter's arguments m 
support of his doubts ; but as I bave looked into 
Harrison, I msLj as well quote what he says on 
the subject, for the sake of rectilying two erron 
into which Ma. Walter bas fallen: — !. That 
Harrison*3 authority was the Bishop of Tarbes; 
2* That "bis oV>ject was to set forth tbe advan- 
tages enjoyed by Elieabetb^s subjects, as compared 
with their state under her fathers reign." The 
following are his words : 

"It appeareth by Cardanc (who writeth it upon Um 
report of the Biahop of Lexovia) in tbe geniture of Kia^ 
Edward the eixt, how Henric the eight, executing ktl 
laws verie seuerelie against such idle persons, I i 

great tbeeufcj, petti e tbeeuc^ and roges, did hang oip 
three score and twelve tboui^and of them in bis time, w 
seemed fur a while gre^itlie to have terrified the rest: twt 
tinct his tkath iiie number of them if to incrtaaed^ yea *l- 
thougli we have bad no warres, which are a great occaito 
of their b recti . . . that except mme better ortkr it 
ttikeit, or iha iawe* alreadk made lit btticr executed, jitdk «t 
dwell in uplrindish towne* and little ctttaget shall lime hui It 
tnudi tafttit and rtit.*' — Harrison*s Dttcription o/^^gtaadt 
chap. ij. 

I have verified tbe reference to Cardan, who, 
towards the conclusion of bis geniture of Ed- 
ward VI., speaking of his father Henry VIII., 
says, — 

" AuthteM Lexocientis mibi narrabat Besnntii, scitiett 
ut biennio antcquam perirct inveiita sint lxxii millis 
hominmu judicio et caniifiee sub hoc rege periisse,'* 

The **antiste3 Lexoviensis," or Bishop of Lisieux, 
spoken of, was probably Jacques d*Annebnut, 
who, according to the Gallia Chrisiiaim^ occupied 
that see from 1545 to 1&5S, *A\t«^ 


Cook's Tramlalion of a Greek MS. (Vol. x., 
p. 127.). — If Mb. PntLiP E. Butler had read 
Vincent Cook's account of the way in whkh the 
Greek MS. came into his grandfather's bands, I 
think be would have had no doubts aa to its w* 

Feb. 17. 1855.] 



thenticity. Cleobulus bears the same relntion to 
Plato that Cid Hamet Benengeli tloea to Don 
Quixote, The title of the second edition is, — 

** Platono in lUlin, Tradozione dal Greco da Vincflazo 
Cuoc<>. P&rma, 18'20, 2 torn, 8vo." 

A note states that this is an exact reprint of the 
Milan edition in three vols, 8vo., but does not 
give its date. H. B. C. 

a U. Qab. 

Emineni Men bom in 1769 (YoL xi.» p. 27.).— 
Sir Walter Scott ivas mi born in 176!>| but in 
1771: Humboldt, the great traveller, and the 
author of Caimon^ was bom in 1769; AmJtj the 
German poet, whose songs and other productions 
roused all Germany to oppose Napoleon, was 
another child of that remarkable year ; and per- 
haps jour readers can supply other instances. 
Humboldt and Arndt are still living in the enjoy- 
ment of their vigorous faculties. A, 

The QueerCi regimental Goat (Vol x., p. 180.). — 

* *'Tbe celebrated moir-whita goAt prewnted by Her 
Mnje^tv to the 23rd Royal Welsh Fusile«rs, died on the 
20tb nit. After weAthoidng the cumpaig^o la Biilgaria, 
and mnrchiog proudly at the hejid of hU reciment from 
KnJamita Bay to ScvaaCopob he has at last fallen without 
wearing tho AimA rae^Ul be bad earned on the way. Uii 
Stat civ demeanour and reverend benrd made bim a pro- 
minent feature in tbe appearance of tbe regiment as it 
moved along ; and the gap left by bis absence will fore* m 
recollection of tbe fine animal upon the memorjr of every 
one fAmiliar witb thtt gaUant 23rd. He bad twen butted^ 
and everj- care bad b«en lalcen to protect bim against tbe 
exposure and inclement weather; but stl thia attention 
was unavailing." — iLnfftixh Charchmitn^ Jan. 18. 

Her Mttjesty^s present of a goat to a Welsh 
regiment would seem to favour Dr. llahn's as- 
sertion, and to prove that it is a custom in regi- 
ments from mountainous districts to have such an 
animal attached to tbe corps, as a fond remiois* 
cence and symbol of home and country. Perhaps 
tome of your military readers can give more pre- 
cise information. J. M, (1) 

^*^ Amtntium^ haud Amanthtm*^ (Voh vii., p. 595.). 
— A Iruuslation preserving tbe allileratiou : 
"Brainless, not brainsick/* Sttlites. 

"-To the Lords of Convefition '' (Vol vii., 
p. 506.). — This ballad has been set to musici and 
published by Ollivier, 4L New Bond Street, 
under tbe title of " Bonnie Dundee/' The name 
of tbe author is not given, but I have always 
supposed it to be written by Sir Waller Scott, in 
which case it is doubtless to be found in any 
edition of his works.* Sttlites. 

Niagara (Vol. xi., p. 48,).^ — When at Niagara 
last summer, I was at some pains to ascertain 

[• In ScoU'a Doom 0/ Demr^iL See "N. & Q.," 
YA TJii., p. A9.1 

the thickness of the water falling over tbe Horse 
Shoe cataract. Within tbe concavity, where the 
water is most abundant, it is estimated at twenty 
feet, which is probably not far from tbe truth ; 
but on either side of the curve the depth is con- 
siderably lessi probably not averaging more than 
five feet. C. E. Weij). 

Somerset Hoase. 

Tbe depth of water on tbe edge of the Horse 
Shoe Fall is estimated, by Sir Charles Lyell» at 
twenty feet; and when at Niagwa m June, 1854, 
I was told a circumstance by one of the guides 
which corroborates this opinion, — that when the 
ship ** Detroit" was sent over the Falls in 1829, 
her hull, which drew eipjhteen feet, passed clear 
over the point of l!ie Horse Shoe Fall, without 
touching. I believe the earliest engraving of 
Niagara is to be found in Father Hennepin's New 
jyiscovery of a vast Country in America,' &c., 
Fjondon, 1698. A letter from a Swedish gentle* 
man, describing tbe Falls, appears in tbe Gent, 
Mag. for January, 1751 ; and in tbe following 
nunabcr Mr. Urban palms off upon bis readers 
Hennepin's view, sligntly altered to suit the nar- 
rative of the Swede, as "a new print of this 
wonderful fall or cataract." There appears to be 
a view of Niagara in Popple's Maps of the Brituh 
Empire in America^ engraved by Toms, folio, 
London, 1733 and 1740. Is this original, or a 
copy of Hennepin ? Are there any other early 
views of the Falls? Ahthiib Paget. 

Bishop Oldham (Vol xi., p. 64.). — It will 
perhaps be a sufficient answer to this Query, to 
advert to what I should have conceived to have 
been a universally known fact, that in 1519, and 
for centuries previously, the clergy were pro- 
hibited from marrying, and could not therefore 
have any descendants. Tuompso:* Coofeb. 


Deaih'hed Superstition (Vo], xi., p. 55.)* — It 
Is the common custom in Wales to borrow, if there 
should not be one belonging to the house, a deep 
pewter plate, which, filled with salt, is placed on 
the body of a deceased person as soun us possible 
after the corpse is laid out. Tbe reason generally 
f^iven is, that it will prevent the sweJling of the 
body* N. 


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a following the cxaoiple ktelj set by one of 
r correspondent®, of sending you an unpub- 
Bd letter of Jobn Locke, X tbint it uoncccMa^y 
jreface it with more than a very few observ- 
Ds. Its cb^ttcter will, I am sure, attract 
eral attention, and Ibe more especially hm it 
tains passages wbiefa niay be regarded as almost 
ed by auticipatioo at your readers and your 
lication, " Wben found make a note on*C' is 
cely a more decided, although less formal, 
>mmendati'on of jour publication, than the 
da derived from Bacon, and used by our great 
aphjdeal philosopher in the letter which I 
' send you, in favour of never going without 
and ink, or something to write with, and to 
ure not to neglect to write down all tb oughts 
loment that come into the mind. 
Tie person to whom this letter is addressed is 
wn in connexion with Locke. Born in 1649, 
published in the reigns of Charles IL and 
ics n. various sermons against pcraecution, 
in favour of charity. One of tliem, uuder 
.title of " A Plea for Moderation,'* published 
pe latter reign, drew upon him the peraeeutlon 
Ih he deprecated. The times were unfavour- 
and he suffered imprisonment. His prin- 
i subsequent publications were in defence of 
lorks of Locke. In 1 699, the year in which 
|tter is dated, he pnbliahed a vindication of 
^sai^ on the Humau UitderstandTng, This is 
rk alladed to in the present letter. After 
death he published vindications of his 
of the lieimrrectioj^ and of his TretUise 
YBeOMQnaMejtess of Christianity, He lived 
\ j^wr 1737 and the a^ of eighty-eight. 
! and he were personally acquainted before 
I of the following letter. In June ITOfi he 
Wtes, and in several of Locke's publighed 
le will be found mentioned with great 
lITc wns a clergyman of the Cburch of 
and held the living of Steeple, and 
i that of Shapwick in Dorsetshire. 
J light thrown by the fbllowing letter 
Iharacter of its writer, it is unnecessary 
Iffer any remark. The letter is worthy 
It man from whom it proceeded, and in 
Tmity with all we know of the reason- 
aly principles by which his life was 


Mr* John Loekt to 3lr. Samutl 
^eepie^ wkiek i> iwt to ba f&und in 
I of hig warki* 

lie mil of April I received not till 

last week- I suppose Mr. Churehil slayM it till 

that dwsconrse wherein you have been pleased to 
defend my ... . Essay was printed, th«t 
they might come together, though neither of them 
needs a companion to recommend it to me. Yotir 
reasonings are so ftrofigand just, and your ^iend- 
ship to me BO visible, that everything must be 
welcome to me, that comes from your pen, let it 
be of what kind soever. 

I promise myself, that to all those who are 
willing to open their eyes, and enlarge their minds 
to a true knowledge of things, this little treasure 
oC yours will be greatly acceptable and useful, 
and for those that will shut tbeir eyes for fear 
' they should see further than others have seen 
I before them, or rather for fear they Fhould use 
' them, and not blindly and loxily follow the sayings 
of others, what can be done to them ? they are to 
be let alone to join in the cry of the herd they 
have placed themselves in, and to take that for 
applause, which h nothing but the noise that of 
course they make to one another, which way [so] 
ever they are going; so that the greatness of it is 
no manner of proof that they are in the rlsrht. I 
say not this, because it ts a discourse wherein you 
favour any oppinion of mine (for I take care not 
to be dc<"eivecl by the reasonings of my fflends) 
but say it from those, who are strangei-s to yoti, 
and who own themselves to have received light 
and conviction from the clearness and closeness of 
your reasoning, and that in a matter at first sight 
very abstruse, and remote from ordinary con- 

There is nothing tfiat would more rejoice me 
than to have you for my neighbour. The ad- 
vantage that you promise yourself from mine, I 
should receive from your conversation. The im- 
partial lovers and seekers of truth are a great 
deal fewer than one could wish or imagine. It is 
a rare thing to fmd any one to whom one may 
communtcftte one*s thoughts fVeely, and from whom. 
one may expect a carefull examination and im* 
partial judgment of them. To be learned in the 
lump by other men's thmigliL-*, and to be in the 
right by saying after others, is the tnuch easier 
and quieter way : but how a rational man, thai 
should inquire and know for bimdcif, can content 
himself -with a faith or religion taken upon trusty 
or with such a servile submission of his under- 
standing, as to admit all, and nothing else butt 
what fiishion makes passable among men, is to me 
astonishing I do not wonder you should have, 
in many points, dilFerent apprehensions from what 
you meet with in authors ; with a free mind, thot 
unbiassedly pursues truth, it cannot be otherwise. 
First-, all authors die! not write unbijuipedly for 
truth's sake. Secondly, there are scarce any two 
men, that have perfectly the snme vit^w of the 
same thing, till they come wltlv 'bM.^xx'Cnk^ «cA 
perhaps mutual ^aaaSlaxie'e, ^J^i «x^mxwQ.\v> — is* ^»*^- 




sideration that makes conyersation with the liYing 
a thing much more desirable and useful, than 
consulting the dead ; would the liyin^ but be in- 
quisitive after truth, and applj Uieir thoughto 
with attention to the gaining of it, and be in- 
different where it was found, so they could but 
find it. 

The first requisite to the profiting bj books, is 
not to judge of opinions bj the authority of the 
writers ; none have the right of dictating but God 
himself, and that because he is truth itself. All 
others have a right to be followed as far as I, t. e. 
as far as the evidence of what thej saj convinces ; 
and of that mj own understanding alone must be 
judge fur me, and nothing else. If we made our 
own ejes our guides, and admitted or rejected 
opinions only bj the evidence of reason, we should 
neither embrace or refuse anj tenet, because we 
find it published bj another, of what name or 
character soever he was. 

You saj you lose many things because they slip 
from you : i have had experience of that myself, 
but for that my Lord Bacon has provided a sure 
remedy. For as I remember, he advises some- 
where, never to go without pen and ink, or some- 
thing to write with, and to be sure not to neglect 
to write down all thoughts of moment that come 
into the mind. I must own I have omitted it 
often, and have often repented it. The thoughts 
that come unsought, and as it were dropt into the 
mind, are commonly the most valuable of any we 
have, and therefore should be secured, because 
they seldom return again. You say also, that you 
lose many things, because your thoughts are not 
steady and strong enough to pursue them to a just 
issue. Give me leave to think, that herein you 
mistake yourself and your abilities. "Write down 
your thoughts upon any subject as for as you have 
at any time pursued them, and then go on again 
some other time when you find your mind dis- 
posed to it, and so till you have carried them as 
far as you can, and you will be convinced, that, 
if you have lost any, it has not been for want of 
strength of mind to bring them to an issue, but 
for want of memory to retain a long train of rea- 
sonings, which the mind having once beat out, is 
loth to be at the pains to go over again ; and so 
your connexion and train having slipped the 
memory, the pursuit stops, and the reasoning is 
neglected before it comes to the last conclusion. 
If you have not tried it, you cannot imagin the 
difference there is, in studying with, and without 
a pen in your hand ; your ideas, if the connexions 
of them that you have traced be set down, so that 
without the pains of recollecting them in your 
memory you can take an easy view of them again, 
will lead you further than you expect. Try, and 
tell me if it is not so. I say not this that I should 
not be glad to have any conversation upon what- 
ever points you shall employ your thoughts about. 

Propose what you have of this kind Ixedy, ni 
do not suspect that it will interfere with nf 


Know that besides the pleasnre that it ii ti 
converse with a thinking man and a lorer of tnll^ 
I shall profit by it more than joo. This jH 
would see by the frequency of my TiaitSi if j« 
were within the reach of them. 

That which I think of Dent. 12. 15. it tlw, tU 
the reason why it is said, Ab the Roebock and tk 
Hart, is because (Levit 17.)y to prevent idobtiji 
in offering the blood to other goda, they wen eo» 
manded to kill all the cattle that they eat, side 
door of the tabemade, as a peace-ofiering, wi 
sprinkle the blood on tlie altar ; but wildaMafe 
that were clean might be eaten though their M 
was not offered to God (v. 12.^, because boi 
killed before they were taken, their blood tad 
not be sprinkled on the altar ; and theiefiie ^ 
sufficed in such cases, to pour out their Uai 
wherever they were killed and cover it withdil 
And for the same reason, when the ^>*"»n « 
broken up, wherein the whole people were is Ai 
neighbourhood of the tabernacle, during th* 
forty years' passage from Egypt to Canaaa, d 
the people were scattered in habitations thn^ 
all the land of promise ; those who were •» ■ 
from the Temple were excused (Deut. 12. 
from killing their tame cattle at Jerusalem, td 
sprinkling their blood on the altar. No mores' 
required of them than in killing a roebuck or if 
other wilde beast ; they were only to pour oat ^ 
blood and cover it with dust, and so they wi^ 
eat of the flesh. These are my thoughts conesi' 
ing this passage. 

What you say about critics and critical isttf^ 
pretations, particularly of the Scriptures, is v^ 
only in m^ opinion true, but of great use to ^ 
observed in reading learned commentators, *b 
not seldom make it their business to show in vbii 
sense a word has been used by other autbon* 
whereas the proper business of a commentstcr is 
to show in what sense it was used by the sotto 
in that place, which in the Scripture wc hfft 
reason to conclude was most commonly in tk 
ordinary vulgar sense of the word or phrase knon 
in that time, because the books are written, ss vob 
rightly observe, and adapted to the people. ^ 
critics had observed this, we should have m tLor 
writings Icssc ostentation and more truth, sod s 
great deal of darkness now spread on the Scrip* 
tiircs had been avoided. I have a late proof <f 
this myself, who have lately found in some Vt^ 
sages of Scripture a sense quite di^Rsrent dob 
what I understood them in before, or from whit I 
found in commentators ; and yet it s^pent 19 
clear to me, that when I see you next, 1 1^ 
dare to appeal to you in it. But I read tibeWcrf 
of God without prepossession or biaSi and aoai 
to it with a resolution to take my aenae AflB h 

'Pbb, 24 1855.] 


and DOt witli a design to bnng it to tbe lense of 
an J sjstem. How much thnt bus made men wind 
and twist atnd puU the text in aJl the seteral aecU 
of CbnstJAn^ I need not tell you. I de»gii to 
tAke mj rt^tigion from the Scripture, and then 
whether it suits, or suit* not, any other denomln- 
atiOD, I am not much concerned : for I think &t 
the last day, it will not be inquired, whether I 
vas of the Church of England or Genera, but, 
whether I Bonght or embraced truth in the lore 
cf it. 

The proofs I hare set down in my book of one 
infinite, independent, eternal Being, satisfies me ; 
and the gentleman that designed others and pre- 
tended ihat the next proposition to that of the 
existence of a self-sufficient being should be this, 
that such a being is but one« and that he could 
prOTe it antecedent to his attributes, viz. infinity, 
omnipotency, &c^ I am since pretty well satisBed, 
pretended to what he had not. And X trouble not 
myself any further about the matter. As to what 
yoti say on the occasion, I agree with jou, that 
the ideas of modes and actions of substances are 
usually in our minds before the idea of substance 
iCielf ; but in this I differ from you, that I do not 
think the ideas of operations of things are antece- 
dent to the ideas of their existence ; for they must 
exist before they can any ways affect us to make 
ttfl sensible of their operations, and we must sup« 
poee ihem to be before they operate. 

The Eisay is goinjr to be printed again ; I wish 
you were new, that I might show you the several 
alterations md additions 1 have made, before they 
go to the press : the warm weather that begins now 
with us, makes me hope I shall now speedily n^et 
to town. If any business draws you thither tors 
summer, I hope you will order it so, that I m»y 
Jbave a good share of your company; nobody 
valttes it more than I, and I have a great many 
tyngs to talk with you, 

I am. Sir, 
Tour most afiectionate humble senrnnt, 

Jobs Log KB. 
Oats, M^ 16, 1699. • 

« TimoUtm" (Vol xi., p, 98,). — M. K S,, re^ 
4brri9g to the Toum and Country Magazine for 
17^ ask* ** what is known of bis (Pope*s) tragedy 
«f Timde^Hf' I think it probable that the 
lijie has erroneously ascribed to Pope what 
_ I to another. X have before me '* Timoleon^ 
m trupady, as it is acted at the Theatre Royal, 
W Uw Majesty's Servants : London, printed for 
XWatti, at the printing-office in Wild Court, 
star Lincoln's Inn Fields, 1730-^ The dedication 
Id tke king (George II.) is signed by the author, 
*" ' ' \ Martyn, who italat that in the third act 

he has ^ endeavoured to copy from Hb Majet^ 
the virtues of a king who is a blessing to his 

The play, in blank verse throughoul, is coana 
and obscene ; the epilogue, spoken by a lady^ di«- 
gustinglv so* There is a ghost scene in the fourth 
act, the idea of which has been made up from the 
chamber scene in Hamlet and the banquet scene 
in Macbeth. I may add that the play is hand- 
somely printed in 8vo*, and my copy ts sumptu- 
ously bound in crimson morocco, richly tooled 
and gilt, evidently of the date of the work. 

L. A. B. W. 

Pope and Warburton. — The assertion that 
Warburton published the Ethic ^pigtiea of Pope 
in 1742 {Literary anecflotet^ v, 578.) seems to De 
contrary to the joint evidence of Pope and War- 
burton, p. 586. It may be said, however, that he 
published the Ethic epistles because the Eisojf 
on man was formerly entitled Ethic episde$^ the 
first book to U. St, John, X. Boiingbroke, The 
date only may be erroneous. The very precise 
statement of Warburton as to the extent of his 
editorial doings with regard to Pope had been 
before printed by bishop Hurd. 

Bolton Cositst. 


The following remarks relate to a MS. chro- 
nicle of English history in my possession, some 
extracts from which were inserted in ** N, & Q^" 
VoL xi., p, 103. At the time I made those ex- 
tracts, I thought that the chronicle in question 
mi^ht be a translation, or a copy of some known 
MS, ; and that others might hG able to help me 
to its source, though I had been unable to trace 
it myself. 

I think I can now show that it is, as I supposed}^ 
neither a trans.lation nor a copy, but an indepea^ 
dent and unknown chronicle. Of course this 
might be established by sufficient examinations of 
the MS, ; but I wish to call attention to the fol- 
lowing interesting fact, which is, that it is quoted 
by Speed in his History of Great Britain^ and 
always as an independent authority. 

It is well known that Speed was assisted hfi 
some of the mo&t eminent literary men of his daVy 
Cotton, Selden, Barkham, &c, ; he enjoyed their ' 
friendship, and shared their treasures of know 
ledge. And though probably the best use waf 
not always made of the rich materials at com- 
mand, nor always a right estimation of their value 
held : yet, when the great historian quotes as from 
an independent source, his opinion will be allowed 
to have some considerable weight. Ui^ reference* 
to the chronicle do ucil cotw^^ ikm^ 'wA^^srmafl&w^ 
about k : V calU v\. *^ wsi^x^.l&S;' ^ %3a. i^ " ^•"'^ 




{witli or withoat the number of the chapter to 
niiich reference Is made), ** an ancient M8.,*' ^ a 
namelesse old MS.*^ It may seem strong that he 
flhould apply these epithets to a MS^ which at the 
tine he wrote could not be more than 150 jears 
old; jet such is the case. With regard to its 
aathcM*8hIp, I fear we are likely to remain in the 
dark: obviously, as Speed was Ignorant of the 
author, It does not seem likely that we shall dis- 
coYcr him at this distance of time, except by the 
jnerest accident 

It will be allowed, however, that the MS. de- 
rives a peculiar value as having been used by 
Speed : and invested with bis authority, and the 
intereit thus attaching to it, we must be content 
to leave it until some more ancient user of this 
interesting work can be produced; or indeed 
until, by such an accident as sometimes happens, 
the author is discovered. 

I was led to examine the pages of Speed, u£ier 
kavlng looked into most of the well-known chro- 
meles, from the fact of my family having been 
oonnected with the Speeds; and from our pos- 
iessing books and M8S. of theirs, one being in 
tbe historian's own handwriting, — David's Harp 
tuned unto Tears, I had not before 8uppose<l the 
book to have belonged to him, since only one his- 
torical MS. has come down to us through his 
« family : and I could not think that this lon^- 
neglected volume was Specd^s one possession, as it 
«eems likely to have been. In company with a 
friend, tbe Rev. J. Sansom, I compared Speed 
with the MS., and we found the results to be as 
I have stated. A few extracts ore subjoined : 

o. Speed, edit. 1632, p. 271. : 

•* Arthur tlireatene<l to have a tribute from Rome : for 
in his letters to that end, sent unto the Senate^ thus in an 
old MS. we find it indited: ' Understand, amou^ you of 
Jftome, that I am King Arthur of Britaine, and freely it 
hohl and shall hold; and at Kome hastily will I be, not 
to give you truage, but to have truage of' you: for Con- 
stautine, that was Helen's sonne, and other of my an- 
ccstors conquered Rome, and thereof were Empi-rours; 
and that they had and held, I shall have yourz Goddis 
grace." (In marj^in, "A namelcsM old MS. cap. cliv.") 

MS. fol. 45 b. (cap. Iviii.) : 

" Uuderstondeth among you of Kome that 1 am Kyng 
Artur of liritavne, and frely it hoUle and shall holde,'and 
at Rome hastily will I be, not to ^iue you trua/;c, but for 
to hauc truHge' of you, for Constantyn that w:u» Heleyne's 
sone, and other of myn auncestris, conquerid Rome, and 
thereof were ICmperours; and that thay badde and held 
I shall hauo thorous Goddis grace." 

/9. Speed, p. 95. Account of the victory of 
MariiiP, King of Britain, over Roderic, Kin^r of 
the Picts — his trophy. lie "also in an old MS. 
10 called Westmer.^ cap. xliii.*' 

MS. fol. 20 b. (cap xxxii.) His victory, trophy. 
"And at that stoon (trophy) bc^^^rnneth Avest- 
merland, after the name of We Marius.** 

7- Speed, p. lOi. Eleatlieiias'i letter, loAlf 
Faean and Damian to Lucina, enoonnifed hisife 
be oaptized. Thirty-one heathen flameni* 
vertea into so maay Christian hisbppa, wkcMf 
London, Yorke, and Carlein [margiB, **GlKflta^« 
saith an old MS., chap, zxxiv.**^, now 8. DiriA, 
were made metropolitants.** 

MS. fol. 22 b. (cap. zzxiv.). Ezacay the 
story, more circamstantially teld ; refezcnee ii fe 
^*And the setis of the archebisdiopjus were in %pk 
citeez, that is to say, York, CheMtre^ and Lome 
and to thaym 3, the othir 28 binlioiia were 4t 

8. Speedup. 117.: 

** The tAstimonies of tbese many w iltors 

log, toother with the place and limimifaw tf i 
death ^AntKminfa Ba$»ku»u» CSsroflolZd'a), andthepiS 
by whom it was committed, the Britiak hiiliMit 
contradict, reporting him to be aUin in Britaine^itl^ 
tell against the Pidts, by one Cbrmienea, a — ty tf ibi 
and ohecm^ birth." (Margin, •• Old MS., CKp.€XXxAf 

MS. foL 28 b. (cap. zxzvi.) : 

** Caraunce come of power kyn .... ndnibi 
great o«t of Peightis and Britons, and fkust with Ma 
and slow him," See, 

c. Speed, 203. Origin of the wordi Wedtfll 
and Friday ; same given (and referred to k^^ 

MS. fol. 30. in margin ii ""No de TTiiiIimm^ 
et Ffriday." 

^ Speed, 268>9. Account of Arthw^i M; 
and of Merlin's magic in behalf of Ucer ; na^ 
ably agrees with (margin, ** an mneient MS.*) 

MS. fol. 37. " Merlyn chaunged the kjig* 
to the likenesse of the £rll Gorlo^'* &c 
Such extracts might be moltiplied yery 
ably, but these are probably sufficient. 

The earlier part of the MS. affrees remarbM 
in some points with the " Brut. UnfortoMtV 
I have not been able to compare it with Sff >• 
Mad(len*8 valuable edition of the La^amoa: ■ 
copy of that work is in the BodieioM Likat 
(though De Lincy's from the Paris IdS. is ihet\ 
and of course it was only La|amon*8 '^Bmt'tktt 
our unknown author could have used. But if ^ 
did use if, I feel pretty confident that he used it 
only as he used GeolTry of Monmouth : only ■ 
every younger historian must use and have » 
course to the works of the older. 

The MS. is a well-written foiiop 
actually 212 folios. Unfortunate j there 
gaps in the middle, about 14 f(^io8 altogeCber beitf 
lost, llie halves of six remain, and tiM qnarMrt* 
two have apparently been neatly ent wicn a Mb' 
The rest is in excellent condition. 

* It will be seen that many of tha : 
chapters are incorrect. How to yrr— f i 
know, unless by the carelesneai of |hi 
transcribing^ &c. 

24. 1855.] 



tice might be interesting to some, I have for- 
led k to " N. & Q:* J. S, D. 

Pembroke CoUe^ Oxford. 


' Ebwy /»eno« in tkU rottntrr/ has a dviy to perftirm at 
It.**— ^ The m&rqtiis of Laxbdownk, Feb. 8. 

19 about HfW yenni since I read a clever little 
k entitled The arts cf life. It consists of 
js on food, clothittg^ and shelter. With such 
"help to the light of nature I have alwiija be- 
lieved that /rt<>4 clothings nnd iheUer are the in- 
dispensable requirements of man. 

After thrs exordium, need I »nnoonce the subject 
in bund ? We cannot reflect on the necessttie8 of 
JHe without also reflectinj^ on the conFequencei of 
want and exposure — without being trun sported, 

Sthe irresistible power of associated ideas, to 
» camp before Sebastopol 1 
The question as to food and cloth mg may be 
despatched in ten lines. Every man knows what 
are bis own requirements, and with suob data 
arithmetic would teach what are the requirements 
I of thirty thousand men. C<immon sense, and a 
decent share of oflScial activity, T^ould have ob- 
viated nil complaints with regard to those artieles. 
More might be said, but it would be useless to 
dwell on circumstances which all vividly remem- 
ber and many must ever kraent. 

Tlie necessity of shelter is as obvious as that of 
ibod and clothing;; but on the nature of the shelter 

f>at adapted to a winter encampment, there is 
ope for variety of opinion. It is the point which 
now propose to discuss. 
TVhca it was announced that wooden huts were 
f be provided for our troops in the Crimea, I 
doubted ihe wisdom of the measure; and when it 
was reported that carpeitterfi bad been engaged to 
aet them up, I uttered an exclamation which would 
not bear repetition. 

With entire approval of the objoet in view — 
the diminution of human sufTerinw^ — I objeeted 

tthe plan a<iopted on the score of its incongruity. 
One of the efements of success in war is rapidity 
mnvement ; and as^Humin^, with regard to two 
bostile armies, an equality in other respects — it 

fly be cnlled the prime efement of success. 
STow, admitting that the huts could be set up as 
quired, what is to become of an army with such 
a mflis of additional camp-efjuipage ? How are 
^iie huts to be taken to pieces at short warning P 
HKow can the means of transport be provided ? It 
^B certain that an army so eufumbored, and re- 
Hhlred to advance or retire with rapidity, must 
^Bher bum its costly huts, or abandon them to 
the enemy* 

In iUustmtion of this arjifUTiient I must have re- 
course to the logic of figures. It i^ required to 

provide shelter for an army of 30,000 m«n. Wow, 
according to major James, the oW ciniular icut^ 
which accommodated 1:2 men, weighed 43lb, ; and 
Oiccording to fiLdd-marabal Raglan the wooden 
huts, which may accommodate about 54 men, 
wei;>h each 5G00lb. The number of tents required 
would tUerefore be 2600, and the entire weight J 
would be 107,*500lb. The number oihut$ required 
would be 1250, and the entire weight would be 
7,000,000lb. Therefore, the weight of the tents 
compared with that of the huta would be m the 
proportion of I to C5 ! 

The tlescrintion of the tents may be seen in 
the Miliianj dictionary^ 1805. The weight of the 
hots is given in the duapatch of which an ejLtract 
follows : — 

*« Bcfbre Scbastopol, Joo. IS. 

**Evay effort is making, aad with totemble stiecesa, in 
landing and patting up the huta^ their great wt^g^ 
('2^ iooM each) is a s^^rioiu obstacle to tbair «oBV«y«i«e 
to the camp, with our Hmited Lrantpoct. £ach hatai- 
quir«» three stripped artilkry wacK^n*- with from «i^g||| 
to ten hor!»es each, or IHQ men. Much ftickness coaiinaii 
to prevail. — Raoulk." 

The tenta, we are assured, afford a very insuf- 
ficient shelter. I am quite sensible of it, and 
mi^bt biive made no objection to the huts had I 
not devised a substitute. Without any apology, 
here follows my project. 

I propose the same tents witli stouter tent-poUt, 
stouter tent-pins, and thicker ropes «— so as to 
ensure stability in tempestuous weather. I also 
prr>pose an additional covering of some water- 
proof mat erifll, whether painted canvas, ot Jeltj or 
otherwise, and a floor-cloth of the same or other 
similar material. Even plain canvas mtght an- 
swer (he purpose. The apex of the covering should 
be fixed. The rest of the covering micht be at- 
tached thereto by hooks or lacings; and might be 
removed in suiniuer, or be added at night, or on 
the approMch of cold or wet weather. Each teat 
should also be furnished with a spade or iron scoop. 
It would be useful in case of snow* and would 
serve to make trenches to carry off the water, or 
for other sanitary precautions, I have suggeated 
feU as Q material for the tent- coverings, beciiuBe 
there is a manufactory of that article at Eupatoria. 
So says M. Anatole de DemidoflT, 

As the additions to each tent would scarcely 
double its weight, the whole weight of the camp-^ 
equipage would still be less than a thirtieth purt of 
that of tlie hutti ! 

Those who have occasion to visit foreign coun- 
tries should inquire into the practices and habits 
of the natives. In so doing they would benefit by 
the experience of successive generations. Now! 
can prove, by a short extract, that the nomadic 
tribes of Crimean Tartars protected theniselvea 
against cold and wet by means very similar to 
those which I have proposed-. — 



[No. S78. 

<* Leon tantes rsavoir, lei tentes dei Tikwn nomades] 
flont des espies de hattes portatives en forme circolaire 
et de huit pieds de diam^tre, compost d'an treiUage on 
dale de baguettes ^paisses et larges d'an pouce, forniant 
one esp^ de mar d'appai d'environ qoatre pieds de haat, 
tar leqael se pose an dome oa comble de mdme structure : 
le tout est recoavert de nattes de joncs et d'un fnitre 
bnm que le vent et la phae ne pemvent pSnttrer, An 
hjuit da comble est an trou de deux pieds de diam^tre 
qui sert de passage au iour et ^ la fumee : la porte recou- 
Terte d'nne natte est la plus ^troite possible. Trois on 
quatre coussins rembourres de crin, une petite table basse 
en bols, deux marmites de fer, deux ou trois plats de bois, 
et une natte de joncs, composent tout I'ameublement." — 
Thounmann* dt^ par M. de Beuillt, 1806. 


** Their tents [sc. the tents of the nomadic Tartars of 
the Crimea] are a sort of portable huts of a circular form, 
and dght feet in diameter, composed of lattice- work or 
hurdle-work of thick sticks about an inch in width, form- 
ing a sort of dwarf- wall of about four feet high, on which 
is placed a dome or roof of the same construction : the 
whole is covered with rush matting and with brown felt 
fthich nather wind nor rain can penetrate. At the top of 
tJie roof there is a hole, two feet in diameter, which serves 
to admit light, and for the escape of smoke : the door, 
covered with matting, is as narrow as possible. Three or 
four cushions stuffed with horse-hair, a small low wooden 
table, two iron pots, two or three wooden platters, and a 
rash mat, compose all the furniture.'* — Thounmann, 
qaoted by M. de Reuillj. 

I flbould state bow the idea of this proposition 
arose. It is foar months since I gave a brief 
analysis of the Voyage en CrimSe of M. de Reuilly. 
On a re-examination of the volume, I resolved to 
call attention to the waterproof tents therein 
described. But I wished to treat the subject in 
connexion with the wooden huts, on which I 
could procure no reliable information, and the 
extract from M. de Reuilly has therefore remained 
in type about six weeks. 

Having travelled beyond my customair bounds 
in order to bring this project to lights I venture 
to recommend that a trial of it should be made at 
Aldershot. A guard may be required there be- 
fore the time of the approaching encampment, and 
the trial might be made on a small scale. In the 
event of bad weather, I am sure it would con- 
tribute to the health and comfort of the troops. 

It should always be borne in mind, and I lament 
the necessity of repeating such truisms, that man 
in a state of health is the prime motive power — 
that the best devbed enterprise must inevitably 
ful without his active agency — and that such 
agency can never be secured without a sufficiency 
of food, of clothing, and of shelter. To provide 
such requirements for the champions of our na- 
tional fame and prosperity is a debt of policy — a 
debt of gratitude — a debt of Christianity. 

Bolton Cobubt. 


A Shropshire Supentition, — A remarkable one 
of a superstition yet lingering in this county having 
come under my notice, I have made farther in- 
quiries, and find it by no means uncommon. At 
certain places the devil is supposed to^ exert a 
stronger influence than at others, and thii is most 
perceptible in narrow and difficult waji. A 
village stile is a favourite resort of the adverstzy, 
and when, under such circumstances, an iuifbr> 
tunate wight attempts the surmounting, he findi 
his eSorlB fruitless, till he has turned some article 
of clothing inside out. So strongly is this super- 
stition implanted, that I have heard of women 
deliberately turning their gowns before crossing 
the stile. The germ of this is doubtless from the 
fact of the devil impeding the progress of those wlio 
travel along the " narrow way,** but the ceremony 
used by the annoyed is evidently a propiUation. 

R.C. Wauo. 


FishermevLS Superstition, — The following ser^ 
is worthy of a nook in your curiosity shop : 

** The herring fishing being very backward, sobm of 
the fishermen of Buckie, on Wednesday last, drened a 
cooper in a flannel shirt, with burs stuck all ovtr it, and 
in this condition he was carried in procession thrtmgh ths 
town in a hand-barrow. This was done to ' bring better 
luck ' to the fishing. It happened, too, in a village where 
there are no fewer than nine churches and chapels of 
various kinds, and thirteen schools.** — Banff JournaL 

A. CHaujTm. 

Salt'spiUing, — The probable orij^n of the 
common superstition as to salt-spilling; did it 
come from the East ? As appears from a paisige 
in Cervantes, it was at one time in Spain confined 
to members of a single noble famity, the Men- 
dozas. (Don Quixote^ vol. vi. ch. i>vin. p. 154., 
ed. Paris, 1814.) 


^ ** We must not omit to notice the existence of two fic- 
tions, which, for near two centuries, divided and agitated 
the whole population of Holland and Zealand. One ban 
the title or Hoeke Tfishing-hooks^ ; the other was ealM 
Kaabe/jauws (cod-fish). The origin of these b nrle w | ai 
denommations was a dispute between two parties at a 
feast, as to whether the cod-fish took the hooA:, or the 
hook the cod-fish? This apparently frivolous dbpals 
was made the pretext for a senous quarrel ; and the par- 
tisans of the nobles, and those of the towns, ranged th«»> 
selves at either side, and assumed different badges of 
distinction. The Hoekst partisans of the towns, wore nd 
caps ; the KaabeHoMwt wore grey ones. In JarqaeUMni 

auarrd with Philip of Burgundy, she was supported hf 
lie fbrmer; and it was not till the year 149S that the 
extinction of that popular and turbulent fiutkn strudKia 
final blow to the dissensions of both."— Grattan^ Butant 

24. 1855.] 



•» On the death of her hixsban 
B«mri«)r Mai^&rpt trazisferFeil 

Mm WtlliaTii Y. for ^^', .i ; 

to Ttm^n ibe goven 

Lewis of 
10 her 
...,—,._ .-., ^^-t-.^rj flurios, 
to pftv thii mm, wiabed 
the iofrnfl oppoMd Itb 
^ Ha^u^t re-ulle^l bei- abdication, and a cirU 

cnsoed, Th« «od^s partitaiu were called JTaAe^ootf- 
s«n; tbe mother'a, HodUcken or £fadb, and for tbli 
reuon: William Y. was of the House of fiararia, aoil bis 
paxtieanft therefore war« the <:o!ourft of that house — bloa, 
witb white or silrer checkered in obiiqine angles. Froin 
IbcM acide-foimied angles, William's partisans were called 
MaMjtui'UDcn ; while the opposite party assumed ibe 
name of the IfotJU, becaose the cod-fiab (KaUfjauutr§) 
is catigbt by a book.** — Elbert's GefcktedeMU der Vader- 

It strikes me thiit the Tenion glyen by tbe 
I>utcb bistorian is not only by for tbe more pro- 
bable, but tbe more allieii to common sense. It is 
incredible tb&t a natioD sbould allow itself to be 
diyided by civil war in defence of sucb an argw 
metfium ad ahmrdtim as that voucbed for on tbe 
autbority of the Englbb bistorian of tlie Netber- 
Uods. I am by no mcuns deeply read in tbe 
ktstory of this remiirkable country ; but I bave 
ol^^n allni!r-,i to tbc Englisli version of tbe origin 
of factions in tbe bearing of eminent 

Du: i^irs, all of whom impugn ita veracity, 

C. H. Gtjan. 

(^/n campktmn of List at Vol. x-, pp. 36L 520,) 

^■J iind tbat tbe second part of my communi- 
^^BioHf containing corrections and additions to 
^^■|tititng*i LUi of Monumental Brasses was, in 
■HBeeqo^nce of aome muitakc, not inserted ; and 

as peveral readers of ♦'N. & Q" bave inquired of 
I me tbe cause of the omission, I again forward it 

Ibr tbesr Mtiafaction. 

Barlclq^. EUtabtdt Paick QmtY 

Bav^bsc. A rronp of seren children. 
Ct^geAaU. Thomas Peacock. ISdO. 
Qnasball. A driiian and wife. 
Eazlow. A knight and Udr, c. 1430. 
HaHow. £. Bagge and wife, 1582. 
Harlow. W. Newman, 1602, 
Harlow. It Lawson and wife, 1617. 
Littdn, A lady, c. 1560. 

A civilian and wife, t. 1600. 

Frauds Frankelin. 1601 

U|«un«Ur, A lady (loose in vestry J, e. 14^. 
Upotncter. A lady (loose in restiy), c. 1630. 


Ikfoltr Almsbdaie, John Barstapte and wife, 1411. 
" " Sir K. Tame and ladies, 1588. 

Xether Wallop. Lady Gora, abbsn, liS4. 
Cvoodalt A Iciest, c. 1S70. 

Hea it bourn* John Kent, scholar, e. 14C0. 
Kympton, R. Ihomburgb and wires 162?. 
Riiif;wood, JoLn Prophete(?)» priest, 14Hi^ 
Sombournc^ Rin^'^'#. Two dvilians, c 1880. 
Thruxton. Sir John Lysk-, 1407. 


Hereforrl, Cathedral Richard de la Barr, priest (crass), 

Hereforti, Cathedral. Ricbard DeLimart and wife (6oe), 

Hereford* Cathedral. Edmund Frowcctoiire, dean, 152 1>. 


Boeklanrl. W. Langlcy, priest » 14 7», 
Fiamsted. John Oumicby, priest, 1414. 
ttjnxworth. John In^tubanie and wife, 148(7. 
Langtey, Abbol*s. Thus. Cogdell and wives^ 1607, 
Li tch worth. A civilian snd wife, c. 1400. 
Litchworth. Thos. Wyrley, priest, 1475* 
Sandon. J. Fitz GeoflVcy and wife, 14S0. 
WyddiaL Margt. Plumbe, 1575. 

Alb. A widow with canopy, c 1440. 

Ash, A kiii/icht snd Isdv. 

Ash, John Brooke, 1582. 

Bi>xk'y. W. SnelU priest, 1451, 

Birrhmffton. A civilisn, e. 1440. 

Birchini^ton. Inscription, and children of Jolba iCryspe, 

Chart, Great A notary, e. 1470. 
Chart, Great. W. GoUWelle snd wife, 14S5. 
Chart, Gr«Jit. N. Toke And three wives, 1680. 
Dover, St. Mary 'a A Greek inscription, c 1600. 
Mailing-, We.^t A heart ami scrolls (figure loat), 
SocHlland. Roger Perot, 1486. 
Snodlsnd. F.dw. Blschon^tre and wife, 1487. 
SnodUnd. Wtru Tilghman and wiv^s 154L 
SU Feler, Thsnet. Afmalefffun (lost). 
Wye. J, Andrew, T, Palmer and wife, 1467. 


Isl ©worth. A knight, c. 1450, 
Jsleworlh. Msrgt. Dely, nan, 1561, 
Stanwoll. R. de Thorp, rector, 1408, 


Charwelton. Th^s, Andrcwe and wife, 1490. 
Chipping Wanlen, W. Smarte, priej^t, 1468. 
Chipping Wartien. R Mskepesce and wife, 1584. 
DodJington. W. de Paiesholl, 1359. 
Flocire. T. Knaresburght and wife, 1498, 
Kelmarsb. M. Dsbeme snd wire*. 1534. 
Naseby. John Oliver snd wife, 1446. 
Spratton. B. Pamell and wife, 1474> 


F. S. GsoiTia* 

^iii0r ^atti. 

** Oiling hmlmu** ^ In Cumberland tbispuziling 
ejiJCulation is in frequent u^e amongst the common 
people ; as, for instance, when a woman is sending 
off an unwilling urchin to school, *be will say? 
" OUinM baiiins, but thee shall go." A learned 
gentleman from St, Bees* College explains it to be 
a corrupilon of tbe Latin naUns tfoUn*, J. E. J* 




Derivatian of " retract^ — Trench On the Studjf 
of Words, 4th edition, 1853. The learned writer 
of tins invaluable little book aaja, at p. 34. : 

" To retract means proi)«rly, ai its derivation plainlj 
dedares, no more than to handle over again, to reconsider 
.... but has coma to signify, as we commonly nse 
it, to withdraw.** 

I would humblj submit that the latter is the 
original and proper meaning of the word, as it is 
derived from reira&O'-xi'C^m^ to withdraw, and 
not from retraeto-avi-atumj to handle over again ; 
or would not our rerb have been retractate f 

Johnson gives retrod as from traho. The 
London Enqfdopitdia has retraction, act of trtM- 
drawing a declared opinion; retractation, change 
of declared opinion. Cbbii. Bobebts. 

Bradford, Yorkahtre. 

A Literal^ Critical, Poetical Transcript from 
Lloyds : — 

" A Black and a White, with a Brown and a Grean, 

And also a Grey at Lloyd*8 room may be seen ; 

With Parson and Clark, then a Bishop and Pryor, 

And Waters*, how stranfi^ adding fuel to fire; 

While at the same time, 'twill sure pass belief, 

There*8 a Winter, a Garland, Furse, Bud, and a Leaf; 

With Freshfield, and Greenhill, Lovegrove, and a Dale ; 

Though there*8 never a Breeze, there's always a Sala. 

No Music is there, though a Whistler and Harper $ 

There's a Blunt and a Sharp, many AslU, but no sharper. 

Thcre^s a Daniell* a Samuel, a Sampson, an Abell ; 

The fint and the last write at the same table. 

Then there's Virtue and Faith there, with Wylie and 

Disagreeing elsewhere, yet at Lloyd's nerer clash. 

There's a I^ng and a Short, Small, Little, and Fatt, 

With one Robert Dewar, who ne'er wears his hat. 

No drinking goes on, though there's Porter ami Sack. 

Loti of Scotchmen there are, beginning with Mac ; 

McDonnald, to wit, Macintosh and McGhie, 

McFarquhar, McKeniie, McAndrew, 3Iackie. 

An cvani^IiRcd Jew, and an Infidel Quaker; 

There's a Bunn and a Pye with a Cook and a Baker. 

Though no Tradesman or Shopmen are found, >'et here- 

Is a Taylor, a Saddler, a Paynter, a Smyth : 

Also Butler and Chapman, with Baker and Glover 

Come up to Lloyd's room their bad risks to cover. 

Fo.\, Shepherd/ Hart, Buck, likewise come every day; 

And though many nn ass, there is only one Bray. 

There's a Mill and Miller, A-dam and'a Poole, 

▲ Constable, Sheriff, a Law, and a Rule. 

There's a Newman, a Niemann, a Redman, a Pitman, 

Now to rhyme with the last there is no other fit man. 

The^e, with Young, Cheap, and Lent, Luckie, Ilostie, 
and Slow, 

With «lcar Mr. Allnntt, Allfrey, and Auldjo, 

Are all the queer names that at Lloyd's I can show." 

I do not know whether you may deem the above 
lilies worthy of insertion in '* N. & Q. ;" they were 
written a few years since by a member of Lloyd's. 
Some of the indiTiduals named are now deceased, 


but a frequenter of Llojd*i in ^m^, 
recognise all the partiea mentioped, 

Shipwrecks ami DiMulert at Sea. — FervilM 
to suggest that parties sailini^ to diatmnt coimtoii 
should organise themseWea iato a oommitteebeftR 
the ship starts (the captain to be churmanXat 
ascerUui that die is well provided with sU tk 
means of escape and safetj, ao Hsit as hamaa ft» 
sight and care can proridey in ease of danger, i 
is proved by too many melancholy iBstaaeciiAi 
to tmst to the capUins or the owaer^s for^M^ 
and skill is not sufficient. 

* These three were noted for religions disputes. 

Oentdne Rejected AddresaeM, — Allow mete* 
cest, through the columns of *< N. & Q.,** the^ 
ncation of the above, as a companion to the(lh 
rious Bhillmg*s worth of humour latfdy r e m m 

F. J. F. Gamuft 

Cutfy'pipes, — Probably not many knov, li 
"cut^" is a corruption of JTatettfA, a city of i« 
Minor, N. £. of Smyrna ; where a species ^id 
white stone is found, which is exported byth 
Turks to Grermany, for the msna&ctnre k* 
bacco-pipes. REC- 

Newspapers, — In a paper on " Newn^^taih 
C. Kemplay, Esq., before the Leeds FhiloM^ 
Society, on Tuesday, Jan. 2, 1855, it was n»i 
that the oldest regular newspaper published a 
England was established by JNaOhaniel Batiffii 
1662 ; the oMest in France, by Theophnsi 
Renaudot in the time of Louis AlV., calMAe 
Gazette de France, in 1632. The JEngiiske *f 
curie, now in MS. in the British Muveum, It- 
Kemplay stated to be now clearly established at 
forgery. B. Bowisr. 


Friar Bacon's Study. — The following lina 
found amonj» Upcott's MSS., were written « 
the intended demolition of Friar Bacon*s ttadj' 
April 6, 1779 : 

«' Roger ! if with thy mafpc glasses 
Running, thou 8ee*st below what psninsL 
As when on earth thou didat deacry 
With them the wonders of the sky — 
Ix>ok down on these deroted wnltsl 
Oh I save them — ere thy study falls I 
Or to thy votaries quick* impart 
The secret of thy mystic art : 
Teach us, ere learning's quite foraaken. 
To honour thee, and — sutb our Baco^t f • 

J. Ysowiu. 

Early Disappearance of PMications, — Ii it 

generally known how soon publications of msrt^ 

I temporary interest utterly diaappesrf I hot 

I lately made great exertions to ODtain a cekitid 

map, published about forty years ago; a pises tf 

music published some twenty jttni 4p€sil* 

Feb, 24. 1855.} 





loured engraTing, about Mteen jeara old. They 
mre all tlir«e 3^ una trainable and forgotten ns if 
tl iej were thriee hundred years old, STr<LiT£s. 

" Clin any of Ihe readers of ** K, & Q." at a!e 
wben the usage of engraving the artna of the 
l)ishop«t loojctUer with their sees, waa commenced 
in peenge books, and when dbcontinued ? In The 
British Compendium^ or^ a jmrtiadar Account of 
all the Nohilli^, hoik Spiritual and Temporal, &C., 
publifihed in 1799, 1 find the whole of the pre*wte« 
Lire shields engraved of their familv arms im* 
ppled witb the reipectlve sees, and the name uf 
each individual placed benealh the shield. That 
this usage should ever have been abandoned is a 
Bubject of much regret, sm all will readily admit 
wbo have attempted to coll eel the armorial btfar- 
isga of our episcopal dignitaries ; and it is witb 
the hope of directing the attention of th« ct>ni- 
pilers^ and publishers of the Peerages of Great 
Britain to liui delect, that these remarks are now 
made. Of what use is it, on referring to a i>eer- 
agt* for somo aecoant of any prelate, to find only 
a shield containing ihe arm-! of his see, which 
Bobody wants to consult. Surely, as a temfioral 
lord^ he has as much right to have his family arms 
engraved as at»y lay member f if the peerage ? It 
would certainly add odditimnd value to a volume, 
if such information were given ; it is due to tbe 

Sublic, who require this infurmation, and it is also 
ne to the individual wbt^c talents have raised 
laim to the episcopal bench. As to the extra ex- 
pense to be incurred in en;,'raving these coats of 
anus, 1 do not suppose for a moment that any 
retpectable publisher would object to it. 

F. MaijiD£if. 


mX request the attention of some legal corre- 

bndent to the following Query. 

jPMi% Creesy has stated, in his work On thg En- 
^i»h Comtitution^ that the right of (ievising real 
property did not exist in England till the reign 
of Henry VIIL (Creesy, p. 102.) He rcfera to 
Blacfcstone, i. p. 181. 

I have not found any passage confirmatory of 
tht* in the edition of Black stone which came into 
ni7 hands in the first volume ; but in the iecond, 
p. 85,, it is Bidd, — 

•• It wru not, in general, permitted for a man to dkposg 
of hii tonemi nti by will, ^fter IheConqa^t, till the n?ign 
of f1«n ry VJIT., ihaugk m ike Sttrtm thnet it woiaOowohU,^ 

In the same volume also, Blackstone aaja, con- 

cerning the fine levied by an heir In order to bar 
entail, — 

** Tt aeems to have bMn th« intention of that MtHtk 
finiieo, Henry TI]., to have extended finei to a W of" j 
«ittft«s>Uii], in orij^r t^ ttti fetter the mone eit»>fy the ab- 
t»U» of liit powerful nobility, aud lay them more opea ta 
alienntHMis, beitig well aware that power will alwaofl 
accompany property/' 

A passage in Haffs Chronieks, while it con- 
firms the knowled^'c that this was one o I the most 
important subj^xta exciting the minds of meUf,] 
yet materially qualifies the asaerdon of the kiog'i^ 
readiness to conler the privilege. In the twenty- 
third year of this reign, according to Hnll, the 
king expressed some disfatisfaction with ihote 
members of parriament who sought tbe redress Qit\ 
their grievancesit and — 

** The caiim why the king spoke thn» was ibis: daily- 
men made feoflTmenlB of ibeir Lands to their uae.\ aiid de- 
clared their vrillft of their lands with inch rt;inflLinderSK 
that botb the king and all other lord§ lodt their \vard%'] 
marnaj^es^ and rdiefk and tb« king tbe ynSt of tba 
tivcry, wbich waj to him a ^reat loss; wherefore hp, not 
willing to take all, nor to Umc all, caused a bill to be 
drawn by his learned cnuncil, ia which it wos devised 
that every nikaa might Htake his will of the haif-of M§ 
ItmeU, ao that ha ttit the other half to his heir by 4a- 

"Wise men,** say* Hall, •* would (fladly have assented 
to this propnsalf but it ei»count«ri:id so much oppodtioa in 
the CninnioDs, tlhU * although tbe Lords had b«eu fa- 
vourable lo it,' the kin^ called the judge* and learned 
men of hid realm, and they diipot<?d the matter in tbe 
chancery, and fl|?Tfe<l thut' land could not be willed hy 
the order of the common law ; whereupon an act was 
made that no man might declare hi* will of an^ part of 
hit tamd, which act sorer g^rieved tbe lords and gentlemen 
that had many children to set fbrth. Therefore,'* m> Hall 
coaelades with a moral, *'you may judge what niiuhiaf 
Cometh of wilful bljudnc«.-i aud lack of forcaighL** -« 
P. 785. 

Knowing as we do that "power will a! wars 
accompany property,'* and that the ri^^ht to dia* 

riae of our own is one of our greatest privileges, 
fael surprised that the emaucij>ati.jn «>f testa- 
mentary bequests from feudal restraint should not 
be put f(irth in history as clearly and triumnhanllj 
as the obt;iining a rl^thi to vote in pnrliaiHettt. 
Surely there must be law books, not difficult of 
access, which throw light on this interesting 
question ? C. (i) 

Mmar ^ucrtfif. 

Tax on Clochit and Wafrhet, — In a printed 
form of receijjt for a half-years taxes due from a 
small farmer in Essex, dated April 10, J798» 
occurs the item, " For clocks and watchca, 
5#. l^dy It waa a novelty to roe that the ownet* 
of clocks and watches had been liable to taxation 
for the luxury at so recent a^ ^^^A- ^^ '"^'^^,^*^^ 
be new to otViers o^ ^oux x^^^^"^- ^.X^.v.- 




A Lady restored to Life, — I have latelj met 
with the following statement : 

« Elisa, the wife of Sir W. Fanshmw of Woodley Hall, in 
Gloucesterahire, was interred, having, at her own reqnest, 
a valuable locket, which was her hushond's gift, hang 
upon her breast. The sexton proceeding to the vault at 
night, stole the jewel, and by the admission of ftesh air 
restored the lady, who had 'been only in a trance, and 
who, with great'difficultv, reached Woodlev Hall in the 
dead of the night, to tlie great alarm of the servants. 
Sir William being roused by their cries, found his lady 
with bleeding feet, and clothed in the winding-sheet, 
stretched upon the hall. She was put into a warm bed, 
and gave birth to several children after her recovery." 

On what authority has this statement been 
made ? And, if true, when did the occurrence 
take place? Change the scene to the town of 
Drogheda, the lady*8 name to Hardman, and the 
locket to a ring, and you have a tolerably ac- 
curate account of what occurred in the early part 
S! think) of the lost century, and with the tra- 
tion of which I have been familiar from my 
childhood. Can you give me any information ? 


Fox Familif. — May I ask for any account of 
the parentage of John Fox, who died Nov. 19, 
1691 ; and Thomas Fox, who died Aug. 18, in 
the same year, and buried in Westminster Abbey ? 
Their arms are : A chevron between three foxes* 
heads erased. There does not appear to be any 
connexion with the family of Sir Stephen Fox, 
buried near them. Did they die without issue ? 
Information is particuUrly requested by 

One of the same Name. 

** NoH omnia terra ohruta,^ Src. — In on Indian 
pa^r, the Agra JMesitenger, ^lay 6th, 1 854, in an 
article on the late Mr. Justice Talfourd, is the 
following : 

" Xon omnia terra 
Obruta : vivit amor, vidit dolor.** 

No reference is given. The quotation is not 
familiar. Can you tell me whence it is taken ? 


Progresgive Geography, — You would confer a 
great service on historical student ji if you would 
name some atlas or series of maps illustrating the 
political changes that have taken place in the di- 
Tision of the world, more especially as rejrards 
Europe. What reader of the history of England 
knows the cxai*t limits of Anjou, Maine, and Nor- 
mandy, although those countries art» referred to 
in ever^ page of the annals of the Middle Ages. 
C'Ountries have indeed been more than blotted 
from the map of Eun>pe, for a blot might indicate 
where thoy once existed ; but as it is, where would 
the present generation look for the monarchy of 
Poland P — not to mention Burgundy, Alsatia, and 
a hundred others. Tlic a5si3tanoe of yourself and 
your learned correspondents would greatly oblige 
erery Studbxt or Histoet. I 

Walier WiUom'e MSS.-^YHkere are tlie IfSS. 
of the author of the Life ohd Times t^ Defoe f 

Roman Statiotu and Boadt. — la an j amall book 
or pamphlet published, giving an account of the 
above, with the present names of what wen 
formerly stations of Iron Rome ? Is there a m 
to be purchased with the present modeni m 
ancient Roman roads on the same sheet? Ifno^ 
one printed red and the other in black ink wooU 
be very useful and lughly appreciated bv soti> 
qnaries. Mimml 

Athouenm Club. 

Mildew on Pieturee. — Can any of yoor lesdo! 
tell me how to preserve a picture (in crayoa) 
from mildew ? It hanes in the same house viA 
many oil paintings whidi are untouched. Weill 
a lining of caoutchouc at the back be of any t^* 


Queetie CoUege^ Oxford — Is anything knon 
of the " mysterious scrawl ** noticed in the fbllof- 
ing lines, composed in 1746 upon a singular jm* 
of writing in Queen*s College Library, OxfSvd? 

** An Oxford raritv at Queen*B is shown, 
Unmatch'd by sll the rarities of Sloane's ; 
A manuscript, ye^ as the leam*d have thought. 
Such as by mortal hand was never wrote. 
Druids and Sybils ! this transcends ye all, 
A dark, oracular, mvsterions scrawl : 
Uncouth, occult, unknown to ancient Greeocb 
The Persian Magi, or the wise Chinese. 
Xor Runic this nor Coptic does appear; 
Xo, *tis the diabi»lic character. 
Xo more, ye critics, be your brains perplex'd 
T elucidate the darkness of the text ; 
No farther in the endl««s search proceed. 
The devil wrote it— let the devil read ! ** 

J. Yiowitt. 

The Rev. John Angier, — Is any portrait of iki> 
celebrated Nonconformist minister known to exist! 
and if so, where ? J. R 

Greek and Roman Churchet. — I Kkow No* 
would be very thankful if any of the readers oc 
"N.& Q.** would furnish her with instances ii 
which the Greek and Roman Churches have, sinee 
the schism, either severally or mutually, acknow* 
ledged each other's existence as a Church ? 

** Ledtx" by Leonardo da riaci. — In 185S, tfr. 
Bernard I:<aacs, of 33. Xew Bond Street, exhibited 
a picture of ** Leda,** professing to be an orifioil 
of Leonanlo da Vinci. It was oflered for saue at 
4000/. Durinjr the year a French artist brouj^ 
an action, asserting that the picture was not ib 
original, but a copy painted by himself. QoOTt 
What was the result of the action ? What wsi 
the name of the French artist? Where can s 
re[>ort of the whole transaction be ftandF Aad 
finally, What became of the picture f 


Ireland — AncUnt Uiage> — 

«* IrdoMd ; An-deni U$age. — The tolbwing andenl 
tisftge WAS observed j esterdfiy in the Court of Excbequer. 
Three of the chair 'boys amt oae of the clergymen, <if 
Gbris^fl Church* attended before their lordahipft to com- 
ply with the terms on which certain lands are held bv 
the Dean and Chapter of Christ's Church CathcdrftI, 
namely, that on ipecified days thev shall render homage 
to Her ld«je»ty in her Court of Exchequer. A hymn 
having beftn lanet and certain prayers recited, tho cere- 
mony termlnnteS"'^ The Evemng Joumtdt Februarv 2» 

Will some Dublin reader of ** N. & Q,** place 
on record in its pages, full particulars as to this 
ancient u^e ? L. h, L. 

Ancieni Order of Hiccabites, — la anythin|» 
known of a society with the aJxjve title? I find 
a lodge of the Order existinfr in Chester about 
ninety years ago, and should be glad to know 
Bomethin? of the nature and constitution of the 
society. The Order must not be confounded with 
the Uechahites^ inasmuch as the chapters were 
held at an inn, which would of course be an 
abomination to tJie latter-named fraternity. 



AMorg of Latin Plat^ji, — Can any of your 
iders who may have an opportunity of consult- 
ing Cole*s MS, Athenie Cuntab., give me any 
account of the following authors of Latin play a ? 
1, Henry Lacy, autbor of lUchardas TertiiUi a 
Latin tragedy, MS , 15S6. The author was Fd- 
low of Trinity College, Cambridge, 2. Stubbe, 
Fellow of Trinity College, Canibndget author of 
From Honesia^ a Latin comedy, 8vo,, 1G32. 3, 
Mr. Hawks worth, author of Labyrinihuxy a Latin 
comedy, J 635* 4, Thomas Vincent, author of 
Paria^ a Latin play, 8vo., 1648; acted before 
King Charles L, 1627* 5. Me we, of Emmanuel 
College, Cambridge, author of Pseudonumia^ a 
Latin play, MS. E. J. 

{Cole*a Qotkes oftheM dramatic writers are extremely 
meagre. Of Ilenrr Uicy he simply states that he wa« 
the attthor of Eichardut TertiuK, of which two copies are 
in the Uarlelan ColIcLtioo, Noa. 2412. 61i*26. — Edmund 
Stubbe, Keltow of Trinity College, and atilhor of FraKt 
Bonetta, 1632. " On Tuesday, February 25, 1622-3, on 
the arrival of Don Carlos ^e Cotoniie and Feniinoitd 
Baron dc Boy»cot, ambassadort from tho Kin;; of Spain 
and the Archduchess of Auairla, who c^tne to Cambridge, 
they were welcomed into Trinity College by Stubbc;" — 
Waller 11 aukcs worth, author of Labtfrinthtia^ 1635, » In 
a MS. note," »ay9 Cole, " h this added, * This comedy was 
exhibited in the College of the Holy Trinity in th« year 
1602, at the election of hadiclors. The spectators were 
many noblemen and academiciansi. It was written by 
that very eminent person Master Waller Haakesworth,'"^* 
Cole then aiidii the following: "Query, Was be the author 
id redantitis : Comoedia olim Caatahrig. AcU in Coll. 

Trin. Kanouam antchac Typii evulgata. Load., I2roo.» 
1631? " — Thomas Vincent, of Trinity Cotlee??, aulbor of 
Faria^ 1G48. " Other Latin plava printed wUU it, as 
LitUa, &e., but without name,'* — 1 be only noiicc of M«w& 
is the followitug^: ** Willium Mewe* B.D*, Erainaiiuel Col- 
Ipgij, author of TAc Hxibbtry ami Spoiling of Jmt}h nnd 
hrucl: a fiiat*ftermon before the Commona, November 29, 
1643, on Isaiah xlii. 21, 25., 4to-, 1643." He was rootor 
of Easting ton, to Glouteatersbtre.] 

RiiU or Eoiue, -^ « Ljtcs of the Earls of War- 
wick and Kingrt of England/* MS. in Bibl. CotU 
Has this been printed ? If so, where ? 

G. E. T. S. E. N. 

[This MS. is in the Bodleian, and has been published 
by Thomas Ueariie; "Joanois Rossi Antiqoarii War- 
wictnsis Historia Rcrum Angliaa, e codice Ms. in Biblio- 
theca ftodleiana desi'.ripsit, notisque ct iodice adornavit 
Tlio. Uearnlujh A.M- Oxoniensia. Aocadit Joannis Le> 
Undi Antiquarii Ksnia in Mortem Hearici DudUckgi 
Eqnilis; tui prasfigitur teatimonium de Lelando amplum 
et priP'darum, hactenus itiedilum,** Oxonii, 1716, 8vo». 
Editjo secunda, Oxonii, 1745, Hvo, Both editions contaia 
two plates: L The statue of Guy, and the portruicturc of 
lohn Rous. 2. Tlie prospect of Guv€*s Cliffe, Speaking 
of Guye's Cliffe, Hearne says, "Here it was that onr 
Warwickshire antiquur>^ John Rous (whose portraictura 
likewise, exactly taken 'from on ancient roll, wherein it 
was drawn to 'the life by himself, I hate rcprewnicd), 
after he came from the university, lived, being a chantry 
priest in this chapel, and compikd his Chron. de Re^pbut; 
of whom, considering his special affection to, and know- 
ledge io, antiquitiest being loth to omit anything which 
may do honour to bis memory, I shall hero observe, that 
for' his parentage ho was the ion of Geffrey Rous of 
Warwick, but descended of tho Ronscs of Brinklow in 
this county; and touching his education, coursa of lift, 
and death,' hii\*e transcribed what Bale from Inland hatb 
expressed of him;'*— Page xxix. Tliero is also a MS. in 
the C<)llege of Arms, and another belongiiig to the Duke 
of Brlanchester, The latter was transcribed verbaiim et 
literatim some years ago as a kindness to the late Mr. 
Pickering, by our valued correspondent the Brv*. L. B, 
L^RKtyo. From tbis transcript a copy was written out 
m ertenjo by (he late Mr. Staplelon, which was beauti- 
ful] v printed by Whittingham at least ten years agti» 
witb all the portraits and arms in their proper colours.. 
All that w;is required was an Introduction^ which we 
believe would readily have been prepared by one moat 
competent to the task, but whf> fur some reason was 
never asked Io undertake it. We hope it may still wr 
given to the world, anJ winh Mr. Ptckering had been 
spared to witneis its pubbcation.] 

Hon. Anchitell Grey, — Who was the Hon, 
Anchitell Grey, compiler of Delmlix of the Htmte 
of Commonjt, m 10 toIb, 8to,, 1769:-* To what 
family did he belong ? L- d* 

[The Iloti. Anchitell Gri>y belonged to the Greys of 
Grobv, and was the second sou of Henrv, first Earl of 
StamVord, Collins {Prerafft, vol iii. p^ Bb^>) states that 
" Anchitell married Mary [the pedJ^ree aays Anne], 
daughter and coheir of Sir Henry Willougbbv, of Riwleyf 
in Dcrbvabire, Bart, by whom he bad a son, VVillotighby,. 
who died unmarried ; and a daughter, Elizabeth, who 
diet! before her father." In 1681, he was Dcputy-Lieute- 
nant in the county of L«ic«steri is mentioned *J f^j* ^^ 
the Cornmiiaioners of Somerset in Clarendon's HebtlhtvK^ 
vol. iv. p. 2L, edit. 1849 -, »\\^ Tt^whwaJw^ "^^ \mvi^«. 




Derby JbrthirtfTein. The Debates wwe published alter 
his death. See Nichols's LAMfCodUn^ rol iu. p. 662^ 
for a pedigree of the fiunily.] 

Lawrence HoUeiL — Who was Lawrence Holden, 
avthor of Twen^'iwo Sermome en the ma$t Intereel- 
nv Olid Important SMbjeeU relatioe to the Chrutiam 
Jniith and Practice, published in 1755 ? He ap- 
pears to have afterwards published An Exposition 
of the Poetical Boohs of Scripture. He is described 
in the title-page ** of Maldon, in Essex." 

E. H. A. 

' [Lawrence Holden was an Unitarian minister at Mal- 
don, in Essex, bom 1710, died 1778. Besides his Sermmu, 
he published A Parmphram^ with Notes cm Ae Books of 
Jobj Pmimtj Prooerbi, and Ecelswiastea, London, 1768, 
4 Tols. Sra; Ditto on /catoA, 1776, 2 vols. 8vo. Mr. 
Orme, in his BMiotheca BibKea, speaking of the Para- 
phf^a*^ sajs, ** This is one of the worst specimens in the 
£nglish language of paraphrastic interpretation.** The 
Monthia Review, O. S., rol. xzzi p. 83., remarks, ** To 
what class of readers this performance will be vueM or 
ameable we really know not* And the Rev. Thomas 
Hartwell Home cautions the inexperienced student not 
to purchase it on account of the Teiy low price at which 
it 18 now offered.] 

Dictionaries, Cydoptedias, j-e. — Can you in- 
form me whether there has been any recent edi- 
tion of Bailey*i Dictionary ? If not, which is the 
beat amongst those reoentlj published for general 
reference, as to pronunciation, derivation, '&c.? 
Also, which 18 the best Cyclopaedia amongst those 
now in vogue (excepting, of course, the re-issue 
of the Britannica) for general information P 


^ [The bedt edition of Bailey *8 Universal Etymological Die- 
tionary^ by Dr. Scott, was publisheti in 1772, fol. Among 
those of more recent date. Dr. Uichardsoii's may be ad- 
vantageously consulted for derivations; whilst Dr. Ogil- 
vie's will be found wteful for general reference. The 
best, and one of the rao<»t recent of the Cyclopedias, is 
Knight*.s Enc£»k CjfclopmDa^ in which the' materials of 
the Pemnjf Cifehpadia have been remodelled, ro as to 
adapt them to the existing sUte of knowledge. The 
work, when completed, will consist of four divisions, Geo- 
graphy, Natural History, Biography, Sciences and Arts.] 

" To /e-Af.-— What is the meaning of the verb 
" to te-he" in the following passaf^e of Madame 
D*Arblay*8 Diary, under the year 1779 ?— 

** She had not however been in the room half an in- 
stant, ere my father came up to me ; and tapping me on 
the shoulder, said : ' Fanny, here's a lady who wishes to 
speak to you.' 

•* I curt jied in silence ; she too curtsied, and fixe»l her 
eyes full in my face; and then, tapping me with her fan, 
she cried: * Come, come — you most not look grave upon 

" Upon this, / te-he*d ; she now looked at me yet more 
earnestly, and, after an odd silence, said abruptly : • But 
is it true?* "—Vol i. p. 143., edit 1854. 


["To te-hee" is a cant word, meaning "to titter,** to 
laagh contemptaeuslv or insolently. It will be found in 
Ogilvie's Imperial Dtctiotuuy,^ 

AJXhaUows. — While speaking of tlie word W- 
law as obsolete, I was toltl, as a vroof of hi bent 
80, that all churches originally oedicaied to Af 
hallows had had their dedication diangod to AI 
Saints. Is this the case ? F.G.C 


[Our correspondsnt has only to tun to Uie ladex li 

the Parishes in the Population Tabtes^ IS^S, and hi «fl 
find thirteen charches in Knglaad sCUl "—'^ AD- 



WAS rmussic acid obtained r&oic buu/s vloqs 


(Vol. XL, pp. 12. 67.) 

The Greeks may possibly havo known tk 
noxious quality of some preparations from planO^ 
as the cherry-laurel and bitter almond, tlie actin 
principle of which is hydrocyanic (prussic) acii 
(Dioscorides, i. 39. 50., iv. 147. &c. ; Fliny, N.E, 
XV. 7. 23. &c) Their priesthood may have iwf 
something of the kind iluring the display of tbec 
oracular powers. (" Pbarmaceutica, by Wi 
Grecnhill, M.D., in Smith's i>ic/. Aniiq^ Tk^ 
were certainly acquainted with many vegKi^ 
and animal, and even with some mineral, poinAi; 
such as were readily prepared from substanK^ 
easily obtainable. Such were the white tf^ 
black hellebore, described by Dioscorides; Ae 
Aconitum, or wolfsbane, mentioned alsobyTbes- 
phrastus ; the Hyoscyamtis, or henbane ; and At 
Conium maadatttm, or common hemlock (ased ii 
Athenian executions), which were probably absi' 
dant on the waste and hilly parts of Grtect 
Diuscoridcs especially, in his Alexipkartmaca^ kl 
given a great number of different poisons, the 
principal and most easily identified or which ct, 
Cantharides ; Ephemeron (colchicum) ; Aamitm; 
Cicuta or Conium (hemlock) ; Hyoscyamus (hen- 
bane); Papareris liquor; Cerussa (white lead) 
Fungi; Veratrum album (white hellebore); sod 
Elaterium. The Alexipharmaca appears to hste 
been pretty accurately transcribed, with sooe 
additions, by Aetius, an eminent Greek me«lieil 
writer of the fifth or sixth centnry, in his J9Mis 
latrica Hekkaideka, in which (Tetr. rv. serm. I 
cap. 74.) is a section on poisoning by bulFs bloody 
the symptoms mentinneid snd treatnsent recoa- 
mended bein<r almost word for word the same « 
in Dioscorides. It is nngular, however, that bods 
of the poisons treated of in the Alexipkstrma» 
appear to have prussic acid for their basis, and I 
am inclined strongly to doubt whether preparatioal 
cont-aining that poison were generally or aocB* 
rately known to Greek physicians. Bvt that th^ 
knew how to prepare tlie acid fVom bolf s hloojL 
or that, if they did, it should have been used ia 
preference to many other poisons far more resfily 

Feb. 24. 1855.] 




obtaiQiible, appears highly imnrobiible^ from the 
absence of any anuaion to its prepuraliaii in 
mediciil writers, ami fmm the niaiin»*r m wliich 
ca^eii of poison lag by bulfs blijod are relatt'd. It 
may he useful to corap:ire some of ihese. L Apol- 
lodorns Atbeiiicnsis (Bitlioth.^ ed. Heyne, Gar ting. 
1803) says that PeJias wished to kill Aison, bul 
the lutter wished to kill himself; and ""^ Ovtrlw 
iwtT*\ii>v aSf(I»f rod ra6pov ax/ia (nrtt<ra(M«*'oi kir^Bavtif. 

(Ci>nf Diodor. Sic, B, H, iv. 50.) 2. Strttbo 
\Geogr,, ed. Casaubonif Amst^iL 1707, Ub. i, 
p. 106.) speaks of Midas as " oTjim rai/jjo* Triavra j " 
and 3. Herodotya (iii. 15.) usea the eame term, 
" drank batl'a blood," of Pttaoiiiiefittua. 

4. The variouiS allusions to the d«ath of The- 
mlshKli^if by this poison are eqtialij scrong ajraiiist 
Niebulir'a hypothesis; Ariatfjph., i?^«tfe*, 83, 4^, 
putting into the mouth of Nicias an allusion to 
this event, a»es the same phraseology, ^^aT^usTai/- 
fi^iov •wuh, Siranarly, Flutnrch, who adds that 
this was ihe commoD repf>rt {6 wokhs k^»i) as to 
ifae cause of Theraistoeles' death, but thitt so rue 
thouizht ^ tpd^ftattoi^ i<p4f^tffo¥,*' The langunge, how- 
ever, cf Dbdorus^ if he could ha trustLMl, would 
l>e fur more to the purpose. In lib. xi. c. 58, 
(reJ^red to by Grot^i, v. p, 3m. note, who, by 
Vie way, as Dr. Smith in the ease of Psammenitujv 
ftppearp to find tio diffieiilty in the account of 
poisoning by bulfs blood) he says, ** tripayiwrdiinot 
8< TotJ Tsupotr, Had rmv SpKtiv ytyofUvt^w, rhy ®*piitno* 
KX4a KvhiKa rov aXfiOTas wkjiftwrarra ^rrif?*'," find died 
itnmedidtely. Here, as in ihe case of Ai5on» the 
blood appears to have been drunk during the sacri- 
fice of the uniraal* from which it was drawn in a cup ; 
there is* no jutimatioo whatever of the long process 

L of converting the blood mro prussic acid. 

p 5. The only^ other case I am acquainted witli is 
that of Hannibal, of whom PluUirch says (Life of 
T. Q. Flamiuiniu^ ed. Bryani, vol. ii. p. 42 tJ) that 
BOine Dersoiis asserted tlint in imitation of Tlie- 
miBtodes and Hildas he " drank bull's blood.*' An 
account of these and similar passages, dilTeriiig 
materially from Niebiihrs, and equally opposed 
to the one adopted Cp*67,) from Dioscorides, re- 
quires examination. It is to be fuund in a nott! 
of Brunck or Bothe, on a fragment of a lost ph*y 
of Srjphoidej, variously asserted to be t!ie CEgeug 
and the Hdem (last vol., Lips. 1806). The frag- 
ment, as given by the German ediiors, consists of 
two lines only, and baa in the firmer the words 
"irw^ft ravpiotf *tf<y," which the Scholiast on Ari- 
stophanes, Ea, 83., attributea to the Helena of 
Sophocles (ftd lowed by the editor of Dtoscorides*, 
Argent. 1523 J, and reads instead '* oW ra6poy 
7* iKWitl";** mreferexico to which rending Brunck 
quotes Eustathiui to show that Sophocles referred 
to a river» Taurus, aud adds : 

*• 0!)««rvat rttxxa ioterpres Cotnici e SvTwraachu, opi- 
llilMiein <le epoto taartno Mnguiiie, tmo mlii mortem con- 
■civerit Thcmistocles, c male intelkcto Sophoclis loco 

ortum es«e. Kempe «to^« f«t;>ittr pro Uarino sangalaa 
accepeniat, aade bVa ex glotu mtniMfa tmmt vide- 

But, allowing the possibility of the corrupttoa 
contended for taking place during Sophocles' life 
(to say the least, highly improbable), several 
cogent objections to the conclusion based on it 
readily occur. I will only mention three. 

1.. Herndotus, a younger cotemporary of So- 
phocles, bad probably never seen the (EgeuM (or 
Heletm) at the time he compiled the materials for 
his account of E^iypt. If oe had, is it probable 
that he should have misread it, misunderstood Ms 
own false reading, or wilfuUy forged from it hla 
account of the death of Psammenitus, to whom ii 
probably had not the remotest reference ? 

2. Is it credible that Aristophanes should have^ 
ignorantly or wilfully, made the same alteration 
and misapplication of these lines (which possibly 
Sophocles never wrote at all), and have based on 
them bis allusion to the manner of Themislocles' 
dearh, when he roust have had several imlependent 
accounts of that event to work upon? He 
brourrht out the Equitea^ containing that alluaioa, 
in 4*24 B.c*, nearly twenty years before the deatli 
of Sophoeiea (khe unwitting cause of Esuch mis- 
takes), who probably was present at the repre* 
senlation, and when, therefore, there waa fuE 
opportunity for tlie mistake to be corrected. It 
is most probable Aristophanes adopted the po- 
pular belief, otherwise the words of Nit tas (Eq. S3^ 
4») would have been untntelligible to ihe audience; 
and that belief was not likely to be founded on a 
corrupted line of Sophocles, which probably had 
no reference to Themistocles, According, how- 
ever, to the German commentator, and his old 
authority (the t?ehw interpres)., the death of Psam- 
menitus in Herodotus, and of Themistocles La 
Aristophiines, were both alike compassed, diiring 
Sophocles life, from a corrupted and misuuder- 
stood line of that poet! 

3. Allowing this singular supposition, whence 
did Pliny and DioHcorides derive their ideaa re- 
specting ihe modttJt ojferamh of builds blot»d as 
poison ? Whence did the latter draw his account 
of the symptoms produced by it ? Did they both 
invent? Their tesiimony ap{>ears to be inde- 
pentlent-j as they refer not to each other. 

On the whole, Niebuhrs supposition is mora 

Slausible than that of the Sophocleau annotator. 
Lut in any case they derive no assistance from 
each other. If PUny, Dioscoridesj and Aetius, 
either purposely or mistakenly^ intend something 
dilferent when they speak of bullV bloi^fl, the 
symptoms of poisoning, and treatment they advise, 
prove that it is not pruasjc acid* Or if theyi to- 
gether with Aristophanes, Herodotus, Dioilorus, 
Athenodorus, nnd Strabo, blindly copied from each 
other the mistake attribuKtd V«^ \> ^"^^ "^"^^ 











[No. 278. 

Or was it firobablj far behind that of the gene- 
rality of Greeks ? 

Either hypothesis in fact, considered with re- 
ference to the other (and Niebuhr*s per te), 
appears self-contntdictorj. F. J. JL^ B.A. 


(Vol. x^ pp. 332. 434.) 

The Rev. Dm. Bock has kindly sent me the 
following remarks, and allowed me to use them : 

"The interpretation of Mb. Wabd is very in- 
genious, but I do not fall in with it ; before offering 
you my ideas of it, I must call to your attention a 
curious passage from The Rites of Durham^ lately 
republisned by the Snrtees Society : 

** * Every Sonndav in the yera there was a sermon 
preched in the Galieley at aftemonne, from one of the 
clocke till iij ; and at xii of the clock the great bell of 
the Galieley was toolled, every Sonnedaie iij quarters of 
an hoare, and ronng the forth quarter till one of the 
dock, that all the people of the towne myght have 
wamvng to come and here the worde of God preched.' 
— P. 88. 

'* Again, you may perhaps know, that the high 
mass or parochial mass for Sunday was celebrated 
immefliately after undem or tierce, which canonical 
hour began at our 9 a.m., and as it took not more 
than ten minutes or so, the parochial mass may 
be said to have begun at nine o'clock, and would 
be over a little after ten o'clock. From church 
people went home to their meals; and as mid-day 
was then a somewhat late hour for dining, we may 
be sure that almost every one had by that time 
done his dinner, and his servants had cleared the 
thinffs away. 

** What used to be the practice at Durham I 
think used to be followed in most parish churches, 
and some kind or other of instruction was every 
Sunday given in the aflemoon. To warn the parish 
of the sermon time a bell was rung, perhaps m the 
country at twelve o'clock, perhaps in the towns 
at one o'clock. The first ringing was on the s^^no, 
or large bells ; the last quarter of the hour's ring- 
ing was on the smaller bell, the sancte bell ; and 
as the instruction was calculated to be for the 
poor, for servants, for those particularly set at 
liberty from their household duties after their 
masters* meal of the day was over, very properly 
was the instruction ctMed ghostbf food, with which 
these poor, these servants, were to be fed. Hence, 
to my thinking, of what b called the Hng'tang 
was it said * servis clamo cibandis.* ** 

H. T. Ellacombb. 
Rectory, Clyst St George. 


(VoL xi., p. 106.) 

In reply to your correspondent C. W. BiBO- 
ham's request, 1 send you copies of the " humo- 
rous poem** wanted. In that very curious col- 
lection of Scottish Pasqmls and Lampoons [edited, 
by James Maidment], three vols. i2mo., 1827- 
28, and which consisted of only ** sixty copies,** 

Erinted chiefly for " private circulation •* by the 
kte John Stevenson, bookseller, in Edinburgh, I 
find as follows : 

** Epigram an Provoit Aikemkead. 

That which is said, is falsely said, 
To wit, his head of aiken timber made ; 
For had his head been but compoaed so. 
His fyrie nose had burnt it long ago.** * 

Again, upon looking into that highly interesting 
but rather neglected work, entitled — 

** Analecta Scotica ; collections illustrative of the Civil, 
Eoclesiastical, and Literary History of Scotland, chiefly 
from original MSS. [Edited by James Maidment], 2 vols. 
8vo., 1884^7.»' 

I discover there another version of the '* Epi- 
gram,** together with " His Apologie," said to be 
printed for the first time from a MS. formerlv 
belonging to Wodrow, the histonan of the Ghana 
of Scotland. It is entitled : 

** Ventt by Bishop Leighton uptm David Aikenhead, Lord- 
Provost of ESnburgh, 

That qabilk his name pretends (is falsly said) 
To wit that of ane aike his head is made, 
For if that it had been composed soe 
His fyrie nose had flaim*d it long agoe. 

His Apologie. 

Come muses al, help me to overoome 

This thing which som ill mynded muse hes done. 

For sure the furies, and no sacred muse 

Hes caught madde braines such patrones to abuse} 

Bot since the fault comitted is so great. 

It is the greater honour to remitt. 

For if great Jove should punish everie cryme^ 

His quiver empUe wold become in tyme ; 

Therrore, some tymes he fearful thunder sends, 

Som tymes sharpe arrowes on offenders spends, 

Som tymes aganis he swan-lyke doth appears. 

Or in a showre of crystall waters cleare. 

Fooles scome Apollo for his glistering beams, 

Lykwayes the Muses for their sacred streames, 

Bot as they doc, so may you eike despyse 

These scomers ; for quhy ? egales catch no flyes j 

Fooles attribute to you a llerie nose; 

Bot fyre consumeth paper, I suppose ; 

Therfoir your lordship wold seeme voyd of fyre 

If that a paper doe dispell your avre ; 

And if that this remeid doe stand insteid. 

Then shall a lawrell cronne your Aikenheid. 

* To this Jeu d'etprit is prefixed this notice : « Robert 
Leighton, after Bishop of Dnnblane, was extmded tht 
College of Edinbnigh for this sj^gram on Provost Aikw 

Fbb. 24. 1855.] 



Kow, ijnee iU thua (jour lordship if it pteBse}* 
Accept lae triple cure for anc Uiwa^. 

Mr. R. LicBTocHB.* " 

T. G. S, 


Tour correspondent says there is Btill m existence 
^_ a humorous poem on Dr, A r ken he ad, Warden of 
^blbe College of Edinburgh^ whicb Leighton (after* 
^P^ wards tbe arcbbisbop) wrote when he was an 
undergraduate ; and a wUb is expressed to see tbe 
' document. 

There was no such person as "Dr. Aikenhead, 
Warden of the College," The subject of Leigh- 
ton*s epigram was *' David Aikenhead, Provost or 
Chief Magistrate of the city for many years/* who 
was by no means popular, for many reasons, and 
parttcularty becnuse m the year 1620 be bad con- 
trived to have Patrick Sands appointed Principal 
of the College, for no better reason than that he 
was mEirried to the sister or daughter of Aikenbead. 
The lines in qn est ion may be found in the second 
Tolume of Mr. David Laing's second series of Fu' 

fitive Scottish Poetnj of the xecenteentk Ct^nhiry, 
i is proper to state, for the information of English 
reatk^rs, that the Scottish word aiken means oakirn. 

>Here are the original lines : 
" UpoM (A* ProTOj* ofEdinhursh. 
^ That which his onTne pretends is fmlselv said, 

^ To wit, that of an aike hb head )» raade j 

For if tkat it hud been composed so^ 
His dory nose had flmm^d it. long ago." 

It has commonlj been said that Leighton was 
rusticated for ridiculing the chief magistrate. 
This does not appear to have been the case; f(ir he 
was matriculated as a student in Nov* 1<>'27, and 
was admitted to the degree of M, A. in 1G31, at 
the same time with a large number who biid 
entered on thetr studies along with him. The 
culprit, it is said, was doomed to apologise in 
Terse for tbe offensive lines. 
I The Apologie^ printed also by Mr. Laing, ex- 

tends to twenty- four lines, evidently written after 
Leij^bton had obtained bis degree of Master. 
Neither the original provocation nor the apolo- 
getieal verses can be fairly represented as having 
any claim to humour or wit, or any merit whatever. 

»S. T, P. 
Edinburgh Collegiu 

• "Leightoii*s catimable character is admitted even by 
those who«« religious opiitioas did not coincide with hfa 
own, — a circumstimce very rcmarkabfc, as usually atitli 
differences produce the moat unchristian-like hostilitv* 
He was Bishop of Danblane, and thereafter of Glasgow/' 

PHOTOGSArarc corbbsfohdciicb. 

Fading ofP<»itittt,~l am glad to »ee that Dr. Dia- 
woKo^a att«ntion is directed to the subject of iba fAding 
of positives. I have myself suffered from the same lu- 
uoyance. He justly remarks, that hyposulphite of »oda, 
not being sufficientlv washed out, is a fertile source of 
future decay. But I have oflen not only wa»bed, but 
subjected the positives to heavy preasuro between blot- 
ting-pap«r, after eaeh washing, two or three times ©vetr, 
aiui the result has been fiir from certain* Since I hava 
titscon tinned the useof ammonio-fiitrute,and used simply 
nitrate of silver upon albumenized puper^ I have had 

Sreater success, so far as the period of time has gone. 
^H. DtAMoKti'a caution respecting paste should be home 
in mind. 1 have generally found that positives fade at 
thorte portions which come in contact with the card-board^ 
before the other parts which have not been touched by 
the paste : not so with gtim, which appears to be a per- 
fectly safe substance ; a& those which are mounted with 
It, which I have had an opportunity of observing, fado 
uniformly, without reference to the portions which are 
gummed. ^Vhethor or not the bleaching chemicals 
alluded to by Du- Diamond being used in the card-board 
are a cause of decay to the positive, is an interesting and 
important inquiry. Where positives are mounted by 
connecting the entire back of the picture to the card* 
boiird, I caTi imagine that it may be a cause of future 
^dlng; but I have always mouuted mioe by tncrely 
gumming the edges to the card-boards, and sabjectlng 
them to presflurei and yet am annoyed by the same un- 
certainties. Any photographer who has experienced 
continued and uniform suc<!ess in the preservation of 
poaitivc^, would be conferring a great benefit by s)jjting 
what method has been pursued to effect this d&dnibte 
resiulL E. IL 

Photographic Copi&t of Raphael Drawlngi (Tol. xi., 
p. 7L). — In reply to your correspondent R, D,*s Queries 
regarding the method of making the negativea of the 
Raphael drawinic^ I beg to state that they were made in 
the camera, and not by superposition. 

C. Tu L^usTos TuoKTSOtr. 

1. Campden HiU Terrace, Kensington. 

Phntoffraphic Exchange Society. — Tliis Society, which 
we have no doubt will bo the first of many similar aaso- 
ciattons, has at length been formed. It consista of twenty 
members : among whom are the name^ of Meaj^rs* Currcy, 
Delamotte, Eaton, Forrcatcr, Kater, Mackirtlay, Major, 
Pollock* Luke Price, Rcslyn, Thoma, Sir W, Kewlonj 
The Lndies Nevilt; Drs. Diamond, Mansell* Percy, &c. 
The Rev. J, K. Major is the Hon. Secretary and Treasurer. 
The subscription ja a merely trifling one of Ave shillings 
per annum, to cover the expenses incidental to the ex- 
change. The great and obvious advantage of such asso- 
ciation la, that every member receives nineteen different 
pictures in return for the one which such member con- 

Fairchild Lecture (Yoh xi.» p. 66.). — The Fair- 
child Lecture, from 1768 to 1783, was preached 
whotiy, or nearly so, by Dr. Morel 1 ; in 1 7a9 by 
Dr. Be Salis; and from 1790 to 1804 by the Rev, 
Samuel Ayseough. ^.^* 




Bishopt ni Ckm (ToL xL, p. 196.^—1 can 

throw no light upon this subject, and indeed Sir 
F. Madden seems to have settled the question ; 
but it reminds me of hjeu ^esprit of Mr. Dudley 
North in the House of Commons, whidi I myuif 
iieard many years ago, and which may amuse some 
of your readers. 

During the progress of the bill through Parlia- 
ment for the establishment of colonial prelates, 
•ome opposition was apprehended; and Mr. North, 
being asked to support the measure, replied, **I 
will oertunly attena if you wish it, but £ protest 
I never met a bku^ kiehop except at chests 


Mometery o/NutceOe (Vol. x., p. 287.). — This 
monastery, to which Wmfrid, the Anglo-Saxon 
■lissionary (afterwards called Boniface), once be- 
longed, is, I believe, Nutwell in Devon : this place 
b situated on the left bank of the £xe, a few 
miles from Exmouth. 

I am not able to give any particulars of Nut- 
well as an abbey, and I have no work of reference 
by me which would supply the information. I 
can at present only state that at the dissolution a 
portion at least of Nutwell was granted by Ed- 
ward VX to one of the family of Prideaux ; the 
original grant under the great seal is in the pos- 
aession of Mr. GreoiYC Prideaux of Plymouth. 
As Crediton was the birthplace of Winfrid (alias 
Boniface), it seems far more probable that his 
monastery was situated in the same district, and 
on the bank of the same river, than in the more 
distant locality of Netley. Ljelius. 

Use of the Term " vaccinated'' in 1725 (Vol. xi., 
p. 62.). — It would be desirable to obtain expla- 
nation whether the precise word "vaccinated'' does 
really occur inByrom*s MS. Journal, in his notice 
of the paper communicated to the Royal Society 
by Mr. Claudius Amyand, Sergeant Surgeon, in 

Byrom*s ^IS. Journal is stated in his editor's 
introducticm (p. viii.) to be " shrouded in tlic ob- 
scurity of his own shorthand,'* and to have been 
"hitherto unintelligible." If the word there 
written is obscure, but it*' meaning obvious, a more 
recent synonymc may have been introduced, 
without considering explanation necessary. 

It is admitted that Jenner'a merit lay in the 
scientific application of results known practically 
to be preventatives by milkers, as your corre- 
spondent mentions. They were probably known 
far beyond Jenner's range, and long before his 
time. I can speak to such results having come 
within the observation of a Cheshire gentleman 
who died in 1753, and who had been informed 
of them shortly after settling on hb estate in 
Fk^tbury parish, in or about 1740. 


English Biskapi Miirea (TgL z^ pp. 87. SS7.). 

— If Uie following brief notices be wora Inserting 
in a quiet comer of ** N. & Q.,** they are perfeedj 
at the worthy Editor's service. 

Bishops wore their mitres at the coronation 
of Hennr VIII., Edward VL, Queen Mary, tad 
Queen Elisabeth. At that of James I. they won 
their rochets, and therefore, most probably, tUr 
square caps. At the coronation ot Chaiiet L Ai 
account given of that ceremony ia not anffideillf 
explicit to say whether or not matrea were wM 
on that occasion. The Archbishop, afVer the 8e 
cofirDition, invested himself ^ in pontificalibas.* 
Whether this term is to be receiTed in its fill 
signification, in reference to the Roman Catfaofc 
ritual, or simply as a conventional term signi^ 
that the bishops were in their proper ecelMiastiea 
habits, is not quite clear. The ceremony was » 
formed as at Edward yi.*s coronation, aocardiv 
to the form agreeable to the use of the RefbnM 
Church of England. In the ceremonial of fii- 
ward*8 coronation the same term is used, aadlk 
bishops wore their mitres. 

At the coronation of Charles II. the bjihip 
wore their rochets ; as also at the ooronatioa d 
James II., with their s(|uare caps in their hia^ 
At the coronation of William and Mary thejMj* 
their rochets and caps. The^ bishops wore tkir 
caps at Queen Anne*s coronation. At the cat^Or 
tions of George I., Geoi^ II., and George DL 
they carried their caps m their handa, and pti 
them on at the time tne peers pat on their coro- 
nets, immediately after the " crowning." Had tk 
bishops worn their mitres at the coronation of 
George III., the circumstance would not hxn 
escaped the observation of Leake (aflerwiri 
Garter), who was present at the ceremony, ■8^ 
wlio has left a very particular account in miiA* 
script of the various costumes worn on that oc* 
sion. It needs scarcely be remarked, that it tbe 
coronations which have happened during the pit- 
sent century, the bishops wore their caps, whick 
they put on when the peers put on their coronets. 
Thos. Wm. Kuig, York Usmaja 

College of Anns. 

Earthenware Vessels fimnd in the Pomuintians^ 
Buildings (Vol. X., pp. 886. 434. 516. ; Vol. xi, 
p. 74.). — I do not think any of your correspondents 
have offered a satisfactory solution of this carious 
subject^ for it seems to me improbable that jtp 
would be employed either as aoooatic instnimeats, 
or to hold the ashes of the dead, or for the purpose 
of strcnjrthening foundations. 

In Cambridge they are very freanently found ii 
dijrfrinjr up the foundations of old nouses, not cm- 
l)edde(l in the masonry, but lying in the soil below 
the basement floor ; they are generally of the type 
known as Beliarmines, or Grey-beards, and my 
attention has been called at different times U> 

Feb. S4. 1855.] 



probably two dozen of them Jufr im ia tbe found- 
ations of o!tl houfl€3 in King*s Parade, Trinity 
Street, and otber sites, 1 remeniber seeing some 
Tery fine and cftpaclous ones in tbe rooms of a 
Fellow of Caiiia College, whicli he informed me 
were found in digging the foundations of the new 
buildings late 1 J added to that college ; and ct the 
jDeeting of the ArclisBological Institute held here 
last July, quite a regime ot of them was exhibited 
in the very interesting local tnudeum formed on 
lb at occiieion, not varying so mu<:h in shape as 
capacity. Kow I cannot belp tbinking that the^ 
Jugs were used for the obviotis purpose of jngs^^ 
and that they were filled with some generous 
beverage^ with which ftuocesa or prosperity was 
^mak to th« commencing odificei and that Uien 
these Teasels were either thrown proniiscuouBly into 
the open foimdations, or built up in the maaonry. 
This proceeding would be Komevvhat analogous to 
our present custom of depositing coins, &c. in such 
positions; and also to another oustom, now dying 
out, of throwing out of the window, or against the 
wail^ the wine-glasa or otber vessel out of which 
some peculiarly cherished toast has been drunk* 

I do not assert this as a conclusive explanation 
of thia curious subject, but merely suggest it as a 
more obvioua solution than any which have yet 
been oQered. Koaais DacK. 

Cambridge. • 

Lay Preachers (Vol* x-, p. 532.)* — Is Jtnrcuia 

ixXTG tliat he is right in asserting that " no layman 
was ever permitted to prcucb in any college, 
chiipcl, or in any other church in tbe united king- 
dom?'' 1 have heard it stated, and I believe 
correctly^ though I am not able at this moment 
to give the authority, that the Universities bad 
power to license laymen as preachersj and that 
the University of Cambridge especially had often 
done so. Others of your clerical readers will 
perhaps elucidate the iimtter. The Canons make 
constant relerence to the preachers licensed by 
the Universities. A« OatFoan B.C.L. 

Mcanmg of ^^ worth'' (YoLvii*, p. 584-)* — If 
the etymology and primitive nn^aning of this word 
are correctly given by BaocrcNA, how singular is 
the etFcct on t^e well-koowo line of I'ope : 

** Worth makca tbs inan» and want of it tho fellonr.*^ 

The poet, using the word in its secondary and 
usual sense, means tliat virtue is the true dis- 
tinction between man and man ; but according to 
tbe primary sense, he would say the exact con- 
trary, viz., that riches were the only real dis- 
tinction . Sttwtes. 

** Our meam wcure ta** (Vol. viL, p, 592.), — It 
is pri»pi»8ed to replace Motre by recuse; ma inge- 
nious suggestion, if the original word must be 
rejected. But is this tbe case? No doubt, if 

taken in the sen»e of ittsaranoe, the word ieatre 
falsiBes the meaning of the passage; but may it 
not be taken in the classical sense of •"* make us 
careless,'' " put us off our guard ? *' The adjective 
secure h notoriously used bo, — 

"And Gideon , . , smote the hoiti Ar tii« boat 
wrmmKUOKJ' — .i^i^^Tiii. IL 

The meaning of the whole passage would then 

" I stuajhl«d when I isw, thcrdbrc perhaps shall walk 
fJnnly now that I am hTrnd. Onr a<lnintages often make 
us careless, and oar defects become advaDteges.^ 


Cardhiah' red Bat (Vd, xi^ p. lOS.). — The 
red hat was giTen to cardinals by Pope Inno- 
cent IV,, in the first Council of Lyons, htld in 
1245, to signify by that colour that they bhould 
be always ready to fched their blood in defence of 
tbe Church. Boniface VII T. gave tiiem the pur- 
ple clonk, though by some this is attributed to 
Paul II. in 14G4. Paul III., who was elected 
pope in 1534, ordained that they should wear a 
red cap, which privilege, however, he confined to 
those who were not of any religious order ; but 
Gregory XIV. extended it to the latter. F. C. H* 

First Book printed in New England (Vol. zi., 
p. 87.),— The first book printed in any part of 
what is now tbe United States, was 

•*Thfl Psalms in Metre, faittifully translated for the 
use, edification, and conkfurt tirf lUe fnints in pubhck and 
private, espedally in New England, 1640." 

It was printed in crown 8vo,, pp. 300. A second 
edition was printed in 1647. This book was 
printed by Stephen Daye, at Cambridge, in Ma»sa- 
chusetts. Daye was born in London, and served 
an apprenticeship to a printer there. One thing 
! about the fir*^t edition of this book in very singular : 
' the word '* Psalm" is printed as it is spelt at this 
time at the head of every left-hand pag<M ^^^ ^^ 
the head of every right-lmnd page it is spelt 
" Fsulme." This book was at firtt called The Bay 
Psalm-book, but afterwards The New England 
Version of the Psdins. A full account of this 
book, and of the various other publications of 
Stephen Daye, may be found at pp. 227— 2S4. of 
vol. L of Thomas's Historic of Printifig in America. 
The claim of Uiis book to be considered M the 
first that was priuted in any part of tiie Americaii 
continent north of Mexico is not disputed. 

At p. 87. Vol. xi. '' N. & Q^'* the date of its 
publication is quoted as 1646 ; it ehould be 1640. 
Printing was introduced into Mexico and other 
Spanish provinces in America many years before 
the settlement of any ol' the English colonies in 
that continent* Pisuaf Tnoatpsoif. 

Stoke Ne wingtoo. 

Baker's Dozen (Vol, xi., n, 8%.^-— >^ "^^ 
rare "Tragi^Comt&^vi" TKi. ^^V ^^^^^ ^^ 




Thomai lliGcldletoii about 1620, Hrestone saji 
to his motlier, the witch : 
** Mtjrrou not have one o* clock in to the doxM, Mother? 

Firestone. Your spirits are then more unconscionable 

FuHBT Thompson. 

Stoke Newington. 

'' Hie Woodweele sang, and wold not ceoMe^^ jrc. 
O^ol. xi., p. 87.). — E. A. B. will find the stanza 
commencing with the above line in the old ballad 
of '* Robin Hood and Guj of Gisbome,** printed 
in Percj*s Reliques, Ritson*8 Bobin Hoodj &c. 

The woodweele is said by Percj to be *' the 
golden ouzel, a bird of the thrush kind.** 

J. K. R. W. 

Nuns acHng as Priests in the Mass (Vol. xi., 
p. 47.). — The probability is, that, at the time of 
the Reformation, the nuns being led without a 
priest, " n*ayant pas de pretre,'* consoled them- 
jielves in some measure for the loss of the real 
mass, by saving what used to be called a ** Missa 
Sicca,** or, m fact, no mass at all, as the Consecra- 
tion and Communion were omitted, and merely 
the preparatory prayers said as far as the Secret, 
and of those aner the Consecration only the Pater 
Noster and some of the concluding prayers. This 
substitute for a real mass used often to be said at 
aea, as it was daily before St. Louis ; but it has 
long been condemned and gone into disuse. Your 
correspondent seems to think that the nuns of the 
Convent of St. Catherine still continue this prac- 
tice. The extract he gives, however, does not 
warrant that inference, but appears to allude 
merely to a temporary expedient in the absence 
of a chaplain. F. C. H. 

Oshem's Life of Odo (Vol. xi., p. 45.). — It 
seems very difficult to ascertain of what See 
St. Odo was bishop previously to his translation 
to Canterbury. Sherborne and Wilton are men- 
tioned ; but the curious old English Martyrologe 
aays that he was first made Bishup of Wells, 

F. C. H. 

^ Husbandman (Vol. xi., p. 86.). — The original 
signification of this term is 'Mhe head of any 
house*' ( A.-S. hur, " a house," and banba, " bond'*), 
** the man who binds or keeps together the family.** 
In its technical meaning it corresponds to the 
tmaU tenant farmer of the present day. Thus, in 
a chapter on " heriots " in the Scotch law, it is 
stipulated that a heriot should be taken from a 
husbandman, only provided he be tenant of the 
eij^hth part of a davate of land or more, a datate 
^mg as much as would employ four ploughs of 
eight oxen each. Again, in one of the statutes of 
David II., rectors, vicars, religious, and husband- 
men are classed together. These instances, toge- 
ther with the usage of the word by our translators 

of the Bible, would seem to w«mat J. C.*s WKf 
position that it was formerly applied to yenam a 
a somewhat higher position of lue than it now iL 

J« £ajtwimm^ 


"" Planters of (he Vineyard'' (Vol. xL,p.8€.).- 
The author of this plajf was a Mr. Lothian, ckik 
to the Custom House in Leith« and was wnttti 
in consequence of the presentation of the Bef. 
Mr. Logan to one of the churches there. Mr. L 

riars in the list of dramoHM persotue^ in tk 
acter of «* Easy.** It is entitled — 

<*The Planters of the Yineyaid; or a Kirk-Scirfoi 
confoanded, a comedy of three Acts, as it was perfbnri 
at Forthtown (Leith V, by the persons of the drama; wA 

a few epitaphs, 1771.^' 

It was reprinted several years ago in 12mo. 



Partu (Vol. vii., pp. 177. 247. 367. ; Vol. viii, 
p. 137.;. — Add to the instances of the early « 
of this word that have appeared in jour cdafflH 
one from the Apocrypha : 

** Then the yoang man said to the angel. Brother ifl- 
rias, to what use is the heart and the liver and the gili ^ 
the fi«h ? 

** And he sud onto him, Touching the heart as' ^ 
liver, if a devil or amr evil spirit troable any, wt i^ 
make a smoke thereof before the man or the womss,*! 
the party shall be no more vexed." — Tobit* vi. 6,7. 

C. F0Bi» 


Venom of Toads (Vol. vi., pp. 338. 517.; Vol. xi, 
p. IG.). — The story told in the extract froa 
Luptons A Thousand Notable Things^ 1650. 
(luoted by Mr. Peacock, had been told nesriy 
three centuries before that date by Boccaccio. See 
the Decameron, Day iv. Novel 7. C. Fobib. 


Ancient Beers (Vol. vi., pp. 72. 233.). — 

" The law concerning the due observance of the Pmh 
over will be transgre^Md by usin^ the following artidA 
namely, Babylonian nHD \ Median beer made of vlMit 
or barley, Edomite vinegar', £g}n>tian zeithtm', thf 
dough of bran used by dyer^ the dough used by cooks. 
and the paste used by writers. 

" 1 This is explained to be a mixture of mOoIdy bmd 
with milk and salt, used to dip food in. 

^ > That is, vinegar made in the Idomean manner, bf 
the fermentelion of barley and wine. 

^ s The name of a medicine of E^ptian origin, oic&- 
tioned by Pliny, book xxii. c. Ixxxii.« under the name of 
zvtham. According to the Talmud, it was composed d 
equal parts of barley, salt, and wild aafihrn." — TiaaslA- 
tion of Tht Jtfi«Ana,"**Pe5achim," ch. iiL 

None of the above apnear to present any ereti 
temptations to a teetotaller. An Oxxobd fi.C.1^ 

Oranges among the Romans (VoL xi-tPu 41.^ 
—Having, in an early Number of **N.ftQ^ 

Feb, S4. 1855.] 



BitiiftiUl rriiits which have been introduced into 
Vhrope, I read with much interest the Note of 
jour correspondent on Gibbon's erroneous sc- 
oonnt of the onmge« 

The opinion of Targioni, which your corre- 
ipondent L. has cited, is probabtj the right one. 
Hid the orange been Drought at once into 
Sorope ^m CtiinA, we should hardJj have hod 
the names naranja, arrancia, and oroi^f modifi- 
cations of which are found in all the languages of 
Burope with which I have aaj acquaintance. 
The first of these names was introduced into 

ED by its Arabian inraders, from their own 
I ^li» which thej borrowed from the Per- 
jj^ .y. This word, I believe, was derived 
Irom the Sanscrit, as I find in several books of 
Hit is curious that we should derive from the 
^prabic, through the Spanish, the names of several 
other fruits which were known in Eastern Europe 
with Latin names, long before the intercourse of 
the Arabs with Western Europe ; and it is not 
eis^ to discover whether those Latin names, 
whidi are not without meaning, were originally 
oomtptmns from the Persian, or names invented 
f the Eomansi, and afterwards, from commercial 

, adopted in the East. 
About the orange, however, there can be no 
obc* Gibbon possibly thought that the aurea 
! of Virgirs third Eclogue were oranges ; for 
it was once a common opinion, and the modem 
Latin of the botanists, AttraTUium^ seemed in 
fiivour of that notion. Aurantium^ however, can- 
not be traced even to medieval Latin, and the 
axrea mala were merely apples, such as those 
with which Theocritus* lovers courted their mis- 
trfHi^ and with which YirgiFs Galatea pelted 
HuDoetas. The epithet resembles our own 
"^gMen pippins." E. C. H. 

**Ko doubt,'* says B, HX , "the Vul^te is in 
error in translating Chittim by Italy T 'Die trans- 
lation, nevertheless, is defensible. The teat is 
Sekiel xxviL 6.), " Et prwtoriola de insulis 
im;" **And cabins with things brought from 
the islands of Italy.** The Chaldaic has : '* From 
the blands of Apulia,** that is, from Cyprus, Crete, 
Sieily. and other islands near to Apulia and Italy. 
There ts a passagre (Numbers xaiv. 24.) where 
the s*me word (Chittim) occurs, and the Vulpte 
rmdi thus: **Venient in trieribus de Italia;** 
**They ihall come in galleys from Italy/* Chit- 
Urn or Ciiium was a city of Cyprus, from which 
the whole island was called Cetim or Ckiitim. 
Now, the Hebrew is literally, " They shall come 
from the side,** or, as the English Protestant ver- 
sion has it, from the cooit (Sept. *k x^h^*') ^^ 
^Ajttjfii, which sulBcieutly applies to Italy. More- 

over, the Chaldaic version has distinctly, " Shipi 
shall come from the Romans.'* The translation ^ 
then, of Ezekiel is borne out from the parallel 
passage in Numbers. It b probable that precious 
woods were imported from Italy ; but whether 
the orange- tree gjew there so early^ is another 
question, upon which I give no opinion, my onlj 
object at present being to defend the translation 
in the Vulgate. F. C. H. 

The ^'TeUiamed*' (Vol. xL, p, 8B.}. — In my 
collection of books at present for sale, I find I 
have got a fine clean copy of the work asked for 
by your correspondent at Leamington. It is en- 

*• Ttlliwned ; or Discoanes between an Indian Philo- 
sopher and a French MissJoiuuiT on the Diminution of 
the Sea, the Format ion of the ^rtb, the Origin of Man 
and AuimaJs, and other curious subjects relating to 
Natural Iliatonr and Philoeophy. B^m a tranthikm 
from the Frenek original of 11 JIaillet : LoodOD* T. Oi- 
bome, 1750." 

It may be had for 3i» T* G* S«. 


Mason $ Hymn (Vol. xi,, p. 105.) The line 

quoted by U. is the one that opens Mason*s 
** Hymn before Evening Service :" 

" Soon will [ant <j»] the evening star with silver ray. 

J. H.1L 

" O S<m of Danid'' (VoL xi., p. 106.)* — The 
suggestion of the late Bishop Lloyd regarding thi 
versicle " O Son of David," was mentioned to me 
several years ao;o at Lambeth, by the late Canon 
Vans, one of toe Arcb bishop s chaplains, as an 
interesting discovery of Bishop Lloyd*s. 

J. H. M. 


KOTia ON Dooas, wtc 

That a tabject to proTocative of a good-natured laugh, 
as photography, with its difficulties, and Infinite failures 
in the bandu of beginners, should be seized ufKin as the 
subject of his mirtli by one who has ao keen a sense of 
the ridiculoQs as the author of Verdant Green, waa only 
to be expected. It was therefore with no surprise thjUt 
we have receired Pho^Mfraphk Ploxmrts pojpmaAy 
trayed vM Pen amd PtmcU h$ Cuthbert Bade, BJL W^ 
have been mudi amused by its perussU even though ^ 
are not without a Ibehnz that we may have feathered the 
arrow which has been alnidd at our camera; and few will 
torn over the pages of it without sharing our cnjoj'mcot 
of the flourishes of Cuthbert Bede*s pen^ and sdminng the 
point of his pencil. 

Waterlow h Sons, the patentees of the Aotogtaph 
Press, have juAt published a volonae of instrndioiis I 
iu use, which will no doubt contribute — ♦i- »- 
the application of this invention. It 
Man Hit otcn Printer^ Qr LithogrMphf mu 




pnfiitmlmjm ike Adtamia^m cf dm Ft 
Pnm, Tnaof^ we cannot ipeak 

adrtBtMgm of the press, we cen speak of the 
simpEcttT of these Erections for its ose. 

* A dueoTerr,** saTs The AHunmm of Saturday last, 
"which, perhaps, will prove an important one to the 
Gtfaan literaiaM of the sixteenth centnnr, has recently 
beoi made in the Batki-arehio (Becorcl Office of the 
SeaateX At Zwickan. in Saxonv, where Dr. Henog, qnite 
nnexpectedly, found thirteen' manuscript foKos, aii of 
them containing poems of old Uans Sachs, the cobbler 
poet of SoiembMS. A dose inrestigation has led to the 
knowledge that tnese thirteen folios are the remainder of 
a series of thirtv-four Tolumes; forming a complete col- 
lection of all the works of Hans Sachs (the nnpnnted 
ones included), and compiled by order, and for the private 
nse, of the celebrated *Meisteraiinger^ himselC The 
MS^ though not an auioffraph of Haas Sacha, ia yet fhll 
of corrections by his own nand.** 

Books RacnrsD. — We have under this heading to 
notice no less than six of Mr. Bohn's contribotions to 
chcut litaratoe. 

Ifwtary of fAc DioauiiMni of the AnAg m SpmSm, tmrng- 
iatedfrom the Spanish of Dr, J. A. Qmde, by Urs. Jona- 
than' Foster, Vol. II., is the new volume of Bohn*s 
Slamdard LUvxtry. 

The JForhs of the Right Jfonourahle Edmmmd Bmrkt^ 
Tol. II., containing his Political MisctUanies, Rtflections 
om tkt Rmaimtiom im. lYamcty amd Letter to a MewAer ofAe 
Natimud AuemUy^ is the new volnme of Bohn's Briiiak 

The Worhs of Fhih-Judtrus^ the co le mpora r y of Joee- 
sAw. tramaiaUd from the Greek, by C. U. Tonge, &A., 
Vol. ITL. is the addition to the same publisher's Ecclest- 
eutieai Library. 

Elrmeittary Fhwfict, an Introduction to the Study of 
yahtral Phihao/^jf, by Kobert Hunt A new eilition, 
with coirections. of Professor Hunt's Popular Introduc- 
tion, will, we have no doubt, prove one ot the most suc- 
ce«9t*ul volumes of Bi^hn's Scitnti/ic Library. 

The Lirr$ of the Tictlrr C^tars, by C. Suetonius Tran- 
mnlht%> to trkich are added Tlie Lives' of the Grammutrians, 
JVietoriciiin*, and Poets, the translatiim of Alexander 
Thonuon. M.IX. rrriM'il and ovrr«7ei/ by* T. Foroslor. 
A.M, form this m«»nth*s issue of the C.a*si'ca! Library. 

Thf Lift and SHrprising Adrt'ntuns of Jii^intt'u Crust-^e, 
Av. This volume of l>ohn*# I^Iuttraifd Library i? one 
which Mriil Ih> weKvme to all the admirers of ihis masier- 
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t-ifA nhi"? ttrifr itt trv •.)!} o/t^ trkvk cr rarbmrntt 'f faifii. ozywaf ' ^ 
II hii;^ U'H^-^ ratvn' i« ii K-rnciiJ*, iimt fA^ mUttOie atrer trill be rtdatd- 

Mh. Ilr^nrnvk^ l^laapow\ TT^ (tpprrkend the fn3Mr*-M pnartlp via 
frr*tt tSe -fr*' -fir- -t Uv >/ fAa u ai p fc •*/ i'<mer.emtd ^mrlfy/rnm ema 
Vm«f I n ir* .**' -.'"■I."' rmcmztiti-/it. WV Jk ■vlit mlfwe yam tm alkameee 

rtnr i'fr« }-i,-v- .1.1— -ft'>i« hy tMeiHttmetk-fa airra49 jyiiv* ta " 2f. S^ 
W (1 rtt^w- f>fii^'. -iw «^>a v-'ff^ II bUt^T tame,Ji>rint caaadf d^ 
;:-«ifi.:,i*r y.^" . ■• ./tV i^icnMrw «.i/. 

EiiaATA. - Vol. Ti.. p. lift. 1. S4., .^ ** aeroBBt " md " eiaiiart ;T 
1. 94 . f i - ** ncMtiac " rtnti " cziiteJ i " 1. 4* ., iiw ■* MofiaU ' 
•• MoDAlI : •• 1- «»...'- --'•'—-'-'-•• 

"•of** irad" in." 
-::: \- y-.-^ / - r?«aa •-rpitarf To. ISS. tatdXc l«.iV* 

.1 'Vir r.yrtfiftff f<ft* «i' Xora* A* a Qrai 

•>ir r.ymjiftff fft* «y ?i<nra» A» (jraaiHL Tola. I. ta lL,aee me 
.',.j-..Y V>»F Gr:%rA*. I' - *hr.»r enrlv nfttKcatiom i$ drjdnaMfc 
FK'y iMM f« \.ullyynUr<-faK* RMtl^aernr ytiramaM. 

••N<«T»* Axi» Qraairt" i» r»*"w^' «^ "oo* on / W dh n s •» «Aa«**« 
('.'•.•f-. F»4:f,lif^ -..IV -u"«':.Y ♦■■pHa »t f*rt« iH0A(*« partalr. aai 
iff.'irrr 'Vf ■ I fn fWi" ■ SiATrW:-* ■*;»■' 5«ri.ndii«. 

"N^nrt k)>P Qrrnias'* ia -'.^ ''tmte.z m Monthlr Parta.Jhr threat 
ivrnirfwv •'•?, v*r T^.^ WMtt ft:\^- '. :v a ./(iSrn/fy ta f roca ru ^ (Ar i»" 
fri*<iitnf '.-wt.V Vva V"*. «" f^/r' -*fVfoaa il BMailWm "** ?•*& 
fYMiIrar t:i rW nMirr<« «*' i»ft^>» j. »'' > imis- 6< detin — -^ ' ''• 

ir>..K .V%r«»w»««. r^.i. %,rv ttampr.i i^ypita /or 

rt*.". »»■*••. Tv ««,.S< 'n;*ii<" '" * f^ 

ll".r«T»" .t-.r;/.:i».- i» nrm "^ . ' 

Jetvmr ^^tke ra.V^«Acr, Ma. Qaaaaa Bau. X«. \$£nm B 

I ^f rarflfnap ^* 


m r - rV M.twMf tdiaiau ojT - K ai aa a» 
11 1^-;- A^jarf'x^w eUremaUKaeamai^ai^ 
I My .>« paid Ar i*M>(MM flM^,*«M* 


t regret that no one h&s yet mnsircrcd i^Lififftc- I 
J the inqQirlea of C (Vol x^ p. 102.), ^mlm I 
for information about Art' 
flobstance of vfh:i>i has been comn 

J and was alrea ' ': ; i luve re^oireu^ 

efore, to throw I h notes as I hmte 

from time to tiiii-- -/u ui^^ subject of these 
lit hough unable at the moment to fol- 
tbetr suggestions, or fseek fjirther for 
iition. If jour correspondent be not con- 
such doubtful questtOQd with ^^ ^condtfj 
iel me hope that he will produce 
dence more direct ; and if he cannot see bj my 
*^ torch," he may thereat light his owUi and I hope 
belp us to see farther* 

Of the anleoedeots of Arthtir Moore, I know 
DotiuDg; but if we put faith in the assertions of 
^he adverse faction, he was of wtrj humble origin : 
^K Irishman bom at Monoghan, the son of *^*^ the 
j&ler," — '' the first and last of his faiuil j that 
erer was upon record : " boni, says another, " at 
the patemat seat of his family — the tap-house at 
the prison-gata :" and, as a third tells us, brought 
' a eroom." Such assertions are, of course, to 
[with suspicion ; and I observe that Arthur 
L name in tbe Dron^heda family ; ^nd 
Peerage (1768) mentioBS thai Arthur 
ine of the sons of the first Viscount 
settled at Dunnoghan (rery Hkely Mo- 
il), and that bis posterity still remain there* 
we ought only to infer that Arthur 
f what in popular phrase is called ^' the 
itect of his own fortune." I first meet with 

in 1702, when he was elected one of the 

ll«Dagers of ^The United Trade to the East 
jadica.^ In 1705 he was one of the Controllers 
tbe Army Aocounts : and under the Tory 
reniment of Queen Anne still a prosperous 
Ban — one of the Commissioners of Trade, 
or of the South Sea Company, and M.P. 
r Grimsby. 
It 11 probable, I tlunk, that Moore was one of 
Gommissionera of the South Sea Company 
BQHUiiated on its establishmeDt. Thi5 conjecture 
!f vlreiigthened by many cotemporary hints apd 



asTscm MfMEm akh the moomm. 

1^** Krxt open to all a ^ahocription-book ctood, 
la which^ if wine foob iroald not eaiav 
T1it!i« at»tetra€D uot ouiyprxmot'd what was good* 
Hot they likvwipe eoa^tdta them to Tcntttre. 
La, ts^&c. 

And fcdi Mr aeocmots the sabtcribera will we, 
Thmi sanArlliDtiieaii be no looaing; 

For 8he(»hisrd aM Bhmfe cbo Diractors shall be* 
With Mart of her M j'm chooaiait 

The Wbigs were clamorous againat the Souths ( 

^ jpany, and they generally associated 

: L r ' liamc with it : 

** Kow trading will doariah, aal tndeamoi grow xich. 
Far th« South 6«a will do it, dopsod oaT; 

Or aba A c M la a wn of a b , 

Who makes as balieTo there's oo end oa^t.** 

It was generally believed too^ or asserted, that 
Aloore was In some way associated with Prior ^ — 
'• Flenipo^Ruminer," as he is called — in cairying 
on the Mfcrei negotiations with France, which led 
to the Feaoe; that Moore suggested the Aa- 
sieiito Contract : and in one of the torn aitaeka 
on liim he is called " Don Artureo, Te Comple 
de TarifTe, Marquis d^Asaiento." In another o£ 
the colemporary ballads we read : 

** Great trtatles, like oars, mast infallibly bear, 
Sioco tb« persons employed are &o able i 
Thoagh one was a drawer, and t'other, some swear, 
Was tbc politic groom of a stable.'* 


*^ . . , a boa ifl just landed by which we may find. 
Our work done in Fraiice'^d F'eru U; 
And the long-wiab*d-for peac« already ]« aiga^d 
Betwixt Arthur More and King Lewis. '* 

The following will throw farther light on the 
subject, or on the opinion of the Whigs: 

** The South Sea trade goes on a-paoe^ 

Wo shall now grow rich of a auddea, 
Tho* it£ all for the knight of the spurioos OtoSt 

Wbomi the Tories swear's a good one; 
TharVe money now at St, Gennain*§ itore, 

Whicli Prior cooYcyM from DoT«r ; 
As sort as a gun, 
They*U bring in the son. 

And baffle the House of Hanover. 
Tory, Borjt Torkst, JticJu, SL George w iim havyo^li 
*^ Tbere't Arthur Moor the jailar'd sao« 

Who we know wis whelped in » i 
And ttom the North of Ireland esma. 

To yi e jm e our Cbart^Ji fh»m danger; 
in Monnaehon'S town he was bom and bred. 

And hir'd the ship for Prior-, 
Bat frregg still the Great, 
Bamboozles the State, 

And Sophia is never the niglier. 
Tory, Rory," *«*. 

Gregg was tbe clerk in Harley's office who i 
hanged for betraying official secrets to the enemy, I 
The Whigs affected to believe that he was the 
mere tool of Ilarlcvt a^vd no doubt '* Gregg tbe | 
Great** of the ballad was meant for the raintster- 
Moore*s association with Prior in th<^sf crr^ ne^ 
tiattons is constantly referred to ; but the hir 
the ship was, I suspect, the extent to which 
was engaged : for Macky, who was at that timfi^ 
agent mr the packets at Dover, bavin;? received 
notice from Calais that an English gentleman had 
arrived there "direct <rom the Tbamc*/' 
taken *' pn*t iramedialclv for I'nn*,'* and that 1 
boat " waited his return, susj' ' ^ ' 

some treasonable projects wt. 

mediate orders for & vigilant watch to be kept 
along the coasts and having thus learnt that the 

EartiQS ha4 landed at DeaX on their return, he 
urried ofl* to Canterbury, and there apprehended 
Prior, Mcsnager, and the Abbe Gautier {Macho's 
Memoirs^ p. xvii.)* II* Moore therefore went with 
Frior, he had either been left in France, which is 
not probable^ or had returned in the boat to th.e 
Thames, which h 1 think even leaa probable. 

The Whig party, however, had resolved to run 
him doivn, and they charged him with ofTencea 
which contradict each other* Thus we have just 
beard that the parties engaged in the secret nego- 
tiation had conveyed money to St, Germain 8, and 
now that they brought money lience^ — 

**Now Pf— r and M— r, with pUtole* in great store, 
From Frante are arrived at Dover." 

Another charge in a pamphlet called A Letter 
to the Honourable A—r Jlf— r^, Com^^ner of 
Tfade and PlmUatiims^ la BpcciBc ; that when he 

was " Arbitrator between Sir T, C^ke, Sir B- ' 

F — b — , and the East India Company," he '* ex- 
torted of the said gentlemen a bribe of above ten 
thousand pounds in I — a Stock, for awarding and 
procuring them a general release." 

There can be no doubt that Bloore, though not 
perhaps personally engaged in carrying on the 
secret negotiation, was afterwards active in ar- 
ranging the details of the commercial treaty, and 
for that purpose went to France, probably with 
Bolingbroke. Reference is made to this in the 
above pamphlet : 

"Wo all know," says tho writcr» "that it was to your 
ability the care of our trade was left at the late trcaticji, 
and to your discerning jud^ieot the cmre of the Crown's 
property in America was rvcommended. The fatignca 
veil under wetit in your journey to Paris, the indefatigable 
mtlrtstrv and skill you h&re showM in your management 
of the fatti treaties and your eUsinteretted aima through 
the whole course of* thcm» are cvitlent proota how xtatoui 
you are for the welfare of the countr)^" 

In this pamphlet, which is satirically addressed 
to Moore as an *' honourable " friend, Moore is 
himself therein dcacrihed as a third party, mixed 
up with Defoe, who wrote in favour of the pettce.j 
»nd was at that time denounced by the Whigs as 
& turncoat. Wc ought perhaps to infer from what 
ibllowa that Moore had once been condemned to 
the pillory ; but the alluaion may be figurative, or 
refer to the official duties of the Monoghan jailer : 

" They being both the oflTspring of the pinor>% no doubt 
are imturallv endowed with a larjLje portion of aincerity* 
One of 'enir 1 must acquaint you^ \a ao inaoloiit m to lii* 
terfere in yonr province, and to assume the mana^ment 
of our commerce to himself, he Eava he is Prime Minister 
of Trade ... he in a huge fellow ; and haa a face 
that strikes terror into all who approach him . . , 
and will do unspeakable dJima^e to our country, if you 
do not take care to get him tiimM out. Such an impostor 
04 this ought to be seat to Newgate, and from thence 

. The man has good umlersUnding, and talks well, 

but makea a bad use of all hl& talents; he haa^ ho^ever;^ 

raised himself by his ^niusihifn a meaa n^r% oClk 

town of Monogban,'^' &c. 

At that time, as I learn from another : 
Moore resided in Bloomsbury Square, wh 
said Defoe, " his man Daniel," went ere 
to consult with him* There are conati 
ferencea to ** shim- sham projects, formed 1 
refined air of Bloomsbury Square^" Bio 
was first namedj and long popularly called, L 
ampton Square, and his residence there b < 
firmed by the following announcement : 

** There is lately imported from France, by M«_ 

Mcsnager and P r^ a very neat* cheap,^ and fine 1 

truly Frenchf which will be disposed of at the ( 

places ; at . . ., at . . ., at Mr. A- M/» I 

in Southampton Square. N»13. That Tor the 

of persons of qualiity, Mr. P r will draw himicl(i 

Mr. M-^— ^r will wait in his proper person.** 

The references in the party squibs and tonfil 
Arthur Moore are indeed endless, I will " 
aome of them together. The first 15 from a hilfall 
satirically culled The Damnable Proiestant FUtt 
** Large cotintriea late given to Lewis, 
J^ owiu^ to Marlbro^B duke, 
For of nothmg comes nothing, most tme if, 
Unless be ihoM Placea lirat took. 

" Our fitateamen, religious nnd wise. 

That never take trouble in Tiiiji^ 
Base lucre are known to despise. 

Pray witnes* the Indies and Spaitu 
Their care ia our trade and increase. 

With many more blcjiaings in store. 
And proeur u ua a plentiful peace. 

By the help of Matt. Prior and Moore.*' 

^ In annther arc satirically celebrated the ftslrrr| 
ties of a Jaeohite p^rty Bccustomed to 
*' Daniera, the Globe at Mile End," and 
the company are, — 

"Jolly Swankiea a pnir. 
With Arthur moat rare. 
Adorers of tipple divine.** 

An excellent New ballad io a iV^ew? Tune h 1 
fortunately too broad in its huraour for moc^ 
extract; but there Arthur ia found m better 
company : 

*' \ junto of statesmen T^ere ktc mot together. 

Lewd Harry and Kobin^ Matt, Simon, and Moon^ 
With a sane titled bishop, all birds of a f^tltcr 
Declarioj^ for Perkin, the son of a ^ ." 

1 cannot but believe that Arthur Moore lu^ 
more influence in his day than might be infcntd, 
considering the necessity we are under of hunti&l 
him out from such obscure paragraphs. In la- 
other of these squibs, a dialogue between Pafouio 
and Marphorio, the former inquires for new 
from En^^land, and h joyously informed (hat tie 
queen ia delivered from the controlling lafluencei 
of the junta — the church established — nod the 
honour of the nation retrieved. 

" Fttta. TIow e&miR IIk^sc things to he effected? 
Marpfi. By a religious, wealthy, and artle 

Mas. & 1855.] 



two great poHtidinji D ^h and St J — ^nx, tbe 

■d dviliAn Dr. D — ^tit, the chiute diriae Dr. Sw— ft, 

tlw*c:rB«t tUtesmAzi A^ M — re, a&d Uit worthy 

Mr. F-t.** 

There are olher references which I have aoted 
dowoi bat which I ahall not forward, 9S thej 
i&re too vague to help jour correspondent to in- 
formation. Moorc^ dowcver, was not forgotten, 
eYen by the Balladmakers, when tbe Torj Irlumph 
was over, which I take to be good evidence that 
he once possessed power. Here m the first Terse 
of a song written upon the Queen*s death, and to 
be sung, we are to! A to the tune of ** Oh Simkin^ 
ihou kadsi better hien starc'd at nurse^ Than be 

rfd ai Tylmnfor iakif^ a purse :" 
AU hoomt farare firitotu attend and give «ar. 
To a djtty most dismal and doleiol God wot. 
The dire effects of it daily appear, 
Br Prior and Moore 'twill iie*er be forgot ; 
W«'V« loot our Queen Ann, with Robio her man, 

Lawd Hany and firinaden, with Lady M ni, 

^L Oh FtrMm, we hui thee for etter tuHeu, 

^M For m boimg of them w€ Aace aUo toat ymt/* 

^^A^rs, however, now assumed a more serious 
H^ect, and next week I shidl proceed from verse 
10 prose. Tbe WarrKa or the 

AancLEs isr trb ArHsif^crir. 

t{To be coniiimedS) 
cifTLB Dantr, ke^idix, wESTjfoai:Li.icn. 
This quaint old house, situated in Wild man 
peet, and close to the railway station, is passed 
<laily bj many a lake tourist without even a glance 
bestowed upon it; whereas it is worth while, for 
thoee who have leisure and a taste for such things, 
juat lo look Inside this relic of the olden time. I 
will endeavour to give a slight sketch of its ap- 

Oo a stone outside, within a sunk panel, are 
incised the letters **a, g^" of an ancient fashion, 
a cord with sundry knots being intertwined, and 
the date, 1564 : — for Anthony Garnett, then pro- 

On the upper bevelled stonework of a window to 
the extreme left are incbed "<ivi vadit plabb — 
vuwT sajTE " and '* i. g." in cypher. Thia same 
idea ta rendered into English on coeval glass in 
Worlingworth Church, Suffolk, " Jc ^J* toalkf 

CEtnT]^ -- tDJiOtf t|» ifauf lEf/* 
Entcrinn; what is now the kitchen, but which is 
y a pjftion of the original apartment parti- 
tionefl ol}'» the clavey, or mantelshelf, extends the 
whole breadth of the house, and is formed of oak 
in eurved panels, the moulding battlemented, with 
which the opposite end, now forming part of the 
entrance passage, corresponds. In the south win- 
dow of the same is a quarrel (No. 1.) with, 
'♦1567 — omfiA VABiTAS — A. o," with inter- 
cord, *'vxixDKA LM wwm,"m skul/. Ano- 

ther (No* 2.) with a fleur-de-lis within a tasteful 
border in cinque cento style, surmounted by a 
crown ; both executed in yellow stain. 

In a bed-room upstairs is a massive carved-oak 
bedstead, the head -board of which has upon jt, 
carved in bold relief on the top triangular panel, 
the centrc-piece gone, first row below — dexter, 
a mask with horns, after the Roman antique ; 
middle, a scroll, with "omnia uailitRiS" a shield, 
having ** a. g." conjoined by a fanciful knotted 
cord, a scroll with **©ienllr«i Ir tour," and skull; 
sinister, mask in cinque cento style : lower row* 
three lions* masks in as many panels. 

On a buffet or ambry; upper part, "oia : vA3rT- 
TAS : Hoxoa [a central piece missing] nrvictE : 
poTESTAs;" lower part, " a:!I5o di^i 1562.'* On 
each side " A. g.,'' as before. The bedstead above 
named is of the same date, as the carving on both 
in certain parts coincides. 

In the window, on a quarrel (No, 1.), **a. g,,** 
and the date " 1505/* (No. !2.) An oak tree 
erased argent, fructed or ; on its branches an 
eagle and child of the second. No, 3. as No. 1. 
in the room below (No. 4.), an oak tree erased ; 
on its branches an eagle and child or, the face 

On oak bosses on the ceiling; that next the 
window has a shield of four quarterin^a : 1st, two 
fesses engrailed, on the upper one a miillet pierced, 
Parr ; 2nd, three chevronels in fess braced, Fit2- 
hugh ; 3rd, three water bougets, two and one, 
Roos ; 4lh, apparently three rabbits, two and one, 
.... On another, farther from the window, a 
second shield of four quarterings ; first and fourth 
a fess dancette between ten billets, four and 
six, Deincourt; second and third three cockle- 
shell s^ Strickland of Sizergh IIidL 

This house was an appendage to the adjoining 
Kendal Castle, which belonged to the noble family 
of Parr, of whom was Katherine, last queen of 
Henry VIIL 

The house under notice now belongs to Irlrs. 
Garnett Braitbwaite. Some years ago a chest was 
found in it, which contained among other things 
a Missal,, and a neatly-turned beechen box, just 
holding to a nicety a dozen beechen roundles, 
which I shall proceed to describe. Tbe Missal, 
the calendar of which has a catalogue of English 
saints, may be de«cribed hereafter, if thought de- 
3ir.ible. Both arc in the possession of the said lady. 

The roundles are extremely thin ; say as thin 
as a delicate well-made pancake, five inches and i 
quarter in diameter, gilded and painted, six of one 
pattern and six of another. In the centre of < 
an animal, and beneath a (quatrain, as follows * 


[Tharepreaoiiation of « akulU and holow U the IblhiwtEC 

Waa nftufet w^itift^ \\i«<\/ti\>l ^»* * 




I WDlde nrr wrfe aholde nther dje. 
Than fbr my death to wepe and cry." 


FA leopard, as andently represented in the arms of Eur- 
•And he that reades thys rene ener now«, 
May hape to haoe a loDrynge^ sowe 
Whose loockes' are lyfced^ nothynge so bad 
As ys hyr toonge to make hym made." 
[A white greyboond coUared.^ the coUar beiantA] 
<«If that a batcheler thon be, 
Kepe thee to styll ; be mlede by mee, 
Lest that repentannce all to latt 
Kewarde thee wyth a brocken patte." 


[A red fox.] 
« I shrowe hys harte that maiyed mee ; 
My wyfe and I canne neaer agree ; 
Aknauyshe quene by Jys* I sweare, 
The goodnuors bretche shee thynkes to weara.** 
[A red sqninrel.] 
•* Thys woman mar haue husbands fyne. 
Butt nener whyll shee ys alyae ; 
Tett doth shee hoppe^ so well to spede; 
Gene up thy hopp, yt shall not nede." 
[A red cameL] 
** Aske thon thy wyfB yf shee cann tell 
Whether thon in maryage hast spede well ; 
And lett hyr speake as wee doth knowe^ 
For XX pounds she will say no.** 
[A white elephant] 
** Thon aret® the hapest man alyne. 
For euery thyuge doth make the thryve; 
Yett maye thy wyfc thy master be, 
Wherfore tacke thryft and all for mee." 
[A white panther spotted.] 
** If thon be younge then marye not yeat; 
If thou be bide thou hast more wy tte ; 
For yoang menes wynes wyll nott be taught. 
And old menes wyucs be good for nonght.'' 
" Take upp thy fortune wytlie good happ,i> 
Wythe ryches thou dost fyil thy lappe, 
Tett less weare better for thy store, 
Thy quietnes y° shall be the more." 

[A golden leopard, or q>otted panther.] 
" Reseue thy hape^o as fortune sendeth. 
For god yt YS that fortune lendeth ; 
Wherefor yf thou a shrowe ii hast goett, 
Thynke with thy selfe yt ys thy lott.* 
[A white hare.] 
• TbM nurnt be poore, and what for y*? 
Hon 13 yf thou hadeste nether cappe nore hatte ? 


[A white unicorn.] 
** Thou hast a throwe to thy good man, 
Parhapes anunthryft^' to what than ; 
Kepe hym as lounge as he cann lyue. 
And at hys ende hyv passpot ^^ gene." 

These roondles, to whldi I wish particalarlj to 
can the attention of tbe curious, are said to be of 
the time of Henry YUI. The letters are sinular 
to those of his day, in half pxinting, half rnmung 
hand, the initials at the beginning of each line 
being in red, and what are termed Lombardifr 
(Query, Why so called ? *) The tone throiiglio«t 
is ungallant and somewhat libertine, such as Bug^ 
be expected in his day, when he set bis own rvjil 
will as an example for his losing subjects. (Quay, 
Were these roundles used in some game of chaace? 
as besides in No. 12., where throwe alludei to the 
use of dice, a similar allusiim appears in ether 

I hope to excite the interest of some of the kind 
correspondents of " N. & Q.," and thereby elictt 
information on the subject of roundles. 

G. Hai 

P. S. — I think it as well to add, that besides 
these memoranda respecting Castle Dairy, I hiTe 
made tracings of glass and of each roundle, to 
ensure accuracy ; likewise sketches of sundry por- 
tions I have described above. 

No. 1. The connexion between this design and the ac- 
companying rh3rmes is more obvious than many that 

Na 2. 1 A leopard is the correct heraldic tent for tiia 
English lion, as here drawn, lean, g^aunt, aad ligH 
savage-looking, with tail and ton^e well dsrdflped; 
a verv different animal from that degenerate brute d^ 
picteJ now-a-days, — a fat, smiling, good-tempered bcMt 
of the Van Ambnrgh breed. 

* Lowering. 3 Looks. 

^ Likened, or like to. Ttmnpe, in the fourth llne^ has 
reference to that mbicund member of the royal briW as 
depicted in the original. 

2^0. 3. ^ This was one of the sapporters of Heniy TIILIi 

^ An evasive oath. 

7 Hoppe and happ^ a plav of words with refcRBM to 
the habits of this mercurial little animaL 

8 ** Thon art the happiest ; " Query, What is the pndm 
meaning of thry/t here and shroioe in the 4th ? 

» w Hap in 9, and hape in 10, luck. 
" « A shrew hast got" " How. 

^^ **A spendthrift " too in modem phraseology. 
M Passport 

[* Because introduced b}r the Lombards, in 5€d. Vm 
ancient Lombardick is distinguished by long heads mA 
tails ; the more recent is thicker. — Fosbroke^k Eilm, ^ 
Antiy., p. 485.] 

& 1855.] 




iGmekdtdfntm p, 121.) 

About 1534, Bp» Tonstdl pufcliased tbrough « 

ttercbint of Antwerp many copies of Tjndale's 

' on of the New Teitimeni^ which wete 

Jy burnt m CHeap9i<!e. 

1534 ' ^ ^tary bqmt witfc her own handi 

a memotl m1 been presented to her; ad- 

TOiog iiii««m3iivuj^Km^ menffures. 

1554. The lower house of ConToettion pre- 
senied m petitbit which coatamed a clftose for 
Cdndenmmg herc'tical books. 

^'0& Coovocttion cooflefnned all heretical 
[In tli«0 re^o all documesit* were burnt 
which ooouiioeil Anjtiimg i^ainft iLie 
r of Hofoev or religious houses.] 
1^G7. The dead oodlei of Bucer and Fagioi 
irere diftnlerrod at Cambridge^ and with man/ 
'^erttical bookj were all burnt Id oue fire. 

1658, It was ordered by proclamation thaiwho- 
€fer n^ceived certain heretical writings and did 

man. The order was executed b the presence of 
a ^reaf multitude of people, and the court of 
aldermen retiimed thanks to the jury for their 
loyalty uf>ou the occasion. 

The pleasant story of Sir Isaac Newton and his 
dog Diamond, who overthrew a candle mong his 
papers^ is too well known to need partieriar nnn»- 

8o also that of Wm. Cowper, Bishop of Lin- 
coln (?)• His wife burnt the resulu of eight 
years* studies to deter him Irom study. Ue 
meekly bore his loss^ and set at work at ooct to 
repair it. 

The Cotton Library waa partly burnt in 1731, 
Oct. 3^. 

In the riou of 17S0, Earl Mansfield*! papera 
were burnt by the mob. 

In 1791, at the Birmingham riot«, many vain* 
able books and papers were burnt in the houses 
of Dr. Priestley, Mr. Ryland, Mr. Button, kc* 

Dobree relates, in his preface to Porson'a Ari- 
Mtophanica^ p. 2., that some of Porson i annotated 

not at once bum them, without either reading ^ booka, ^c. were consumed by fire about 1797. 


them or showing them to others, was to be im 
mediately executed by martial law. 

The oooki of Convocation ptirished in the'Fire 

Dr. Thomas Goodwin lost half his Uhrary in 

le Fire of London. 

The Ubrary ai Oxford is said to h«re been 
aet ou fire by the soldiers of Cromwell. 

Charles IL bomt the Solemn League and 
Covenant by the hands of the hangman, and the 
6ncteb Ml rerenge burnt the Acts of Supremacy, 

Dc Lanne*s Plea wa? burnt in It' 84, and its 
author thrown into prison, where he died. 

Ihrnke^s Memorial of the Church of England^ 
Ux^ 1703, was presented at the UUl Bailey, 
Aitf« 31sU and ordered to be burnt both there 
mTnl the Royal Exchange by the common hang- 

I* On Itiis ianintr topic Pcpji has « note or two : 
••Sept. *'V 1*'^-' ^- ^^' n. . I-.. J hearths mat loas cf 
hoc^ H,d St the^HsU also, 

wlDcti )0l* some booksellers 

Khifni; n „ aiiJ ariiuii;; others, they Mr, mj 

h> 1 Mr. Crbmlum, alt his books sod boun- 

•hOTi^ . d, a Dis- 

\\\rhjii'» U-insman, my 
>o I mm told bv him 

A or 
^ kll the gr^'At Liuo.- ■ IiiDe; nc»t 

r thcNw Iml tb^r wsrehoti .«nil under 

lCbnr«^h, Aoddsefwh^r, Aareat 

, thcrsfbrr* thsrt i^Uy Latin 

haoks and Hareign hook . ihs Poly- 

and wtm Bible, wuieli U^ liclKve« wiU hs pre* 
iVtfly waitk 40£ a pieet.''] 

Bp. Burnet*8 Pastoral Letter^ published in 1589, 
was three years later cundemned by the parlla- 
mant and consigned to the flames. 

The same parliament whioh burnt Burnet's 
book pronounced a similar sentence upon a pam- 
phlet by Charles Blount, entitled King WiSiam 
and Queen Mary ConouerorSy &c., 1693. 

De Foe's Shortest Way with the Dissenters was 
burnt by order of the Commons, made 25th Feb. 
1702^. De Foe fays; 

** I have heAnl a bookseller in King James's time say, 
that if he wotild ha^e a book sell, ho would hav^e it bmut 
by the hands of the ooinnioa hangman,'* -^ ^'AKiy on. 
Projects^ p. 178. 

The Pobfglott BikU of Messrs. Bagstcr waa 
partly burfit» and a complete copy of the quarto 
edition cannot be had. This happened, I believe, 
when the premises were burnt, March 2, 1822. 

^kl&ny books have been burnt in this way, as the 
following list of fires wiU prove : 

At the prn; ■ '' mj of S. Hamilton, Falcon 

Court, Fleet S 2, 1 803. Damage 80,000^. 

At Smeetnn ? jriiKing-office, St* Martinis Lane, 
May 27, UO'X 

In CondultlKreet, July 8, 1809, Mr, Windham 
was fatally injured in his endeaTour to save ^Ir. 
North's library and MSS. 

At Mr. Paris, printer's, Tooke*s Court, July 2U, 
1810, - \ 

Gillet's printing-oflSce burnt, Salisbury Square, 
1805 and 1S10. 

Library of Mr. C. Boon, Berkeley Square, burnt, 
Feb. 11, 1816. 

AfeWtectural Libmij of Mr. Tavlor 
Holbotii, Nov. 23, IdM. 



[No. S79. 

Part of the Catidogae of the Rich MSS., bj 
Forahall, was burnt while in sheets, 1838. 

The Great ExhihiHon Catalogue, &c., burnt at 
Clowes & Son*s, Duke Street, Stamford Street, 

Fart of the MS. of Doddridge's Expoiitor was 
accidentally burnt in June, 1750. 

At the Houses of Parliament, Oct. 16, 1834, 
and at the Tower of London, many valuable books 
and documents were burnt. 

Robert Robinson of Cambridge collected most 
of the materials for a history of public preaching, 
but these he himself burnt and otherwise destroyed. 

'< Throughoat the Russian empire the Czar forbids the 
stady of the literature and philosophy of our ancestors, 
and the more effectually to seal up the lessons of political 
wisdom impressed on the minds of men by the perusal of 
our great authors, our Demosthenes, and our Pmto, — he 
has ordered them to be burnt wherever they are found ! " 
— From Letter from Athens in The Tima of Dec 22nd, 

The records of the Hospital of St. Cross were 
burnt by a Mrs. Wright, who had been lefl in 
charge of the house, temp. Jas. I. See " N. & Q.," 
Vol. X., p. 43. 

Such are a few of the examples on record of the 
destruction of books and papers by fire, and but a 
few of the myriad instances which have occurred. 
Nearly every one is from books in my own limited 
collection. B. H. Cowfeb. 



It is very well known that Shokspeare makes his 
carpet-knight, when visiting the field of Ilolme- 
don after the battle, declaim against gunpowder 
and fire-arms as a vile and cowardly means of 
destroying brave men ; and that Milton ascribes 
the invention to Satan. In the former the cour- 
tier says : 

*^ And that it was ereat pity, so it was^ 
That villanous s^t-petre should be dug 
Out of the bowels of the harmless earth. 
Which many a good tall [brave] fellow had destroy*d 
So cowardly; and but for these vile guns, 
He would himself have been a soldier." 

Ist Part HcHTif |«fe Act I. Sc 3. 

In Milton, Satan in council ^th his angels 
proposes to dig up and temper certain metals : 

ff Which into hollow engines long and round, 
>\ifihMli, ramm'd, at the other bore with touch of fire 
Dilated and infuriate, shall send forth 
From far with thundering noise, among our foes 
Such implements of mischief as shall dash 
To pieces and overwhelm whatever stands 
Adverse, aa^ they shall fear we have disann'cL^ 
The Thnnderer <tf his only dreaded bolt" Mftf 
Par. Lott, b. vl iMSiic. 

Addison sayi, '^It was certainly a very bold 
thought in oar author to aacribe the first use of 

artillery to the rebel angels ;** and that ''snch t 
pernicious invention may be well supposed to 
nave proceeded from such authors.** (spectaUfr, 
No. 333.) But he does not seem to have been 
aware that the same thought had previously been 
expressed both by Ariosto and Cervantes. 

Ariosto represents the King of Frisia as em- 
ploying in battle the first invented cannon, by 
means of which he twice obtuns the victory : 

** Porta alcun* arme, che V antica gente 
Non vide mai, ne, fuor ch' a lui, la nova ; 
Un ferro bu^o, lungo da due braccia, 
Dentro a cm polve ed una palla caccia," &c. 

** He bore certain arms unknown to former times, and 
in our own only used by him ; an iron tube, two cubits 
long, into which he rammed powder and a baU," &G. — 
Orlando Furioao, canto ix. st. 28, 29. 

Like a true knight-errant, Orlando, having 
conquered this formidable monarch, would take 
no part of the spoil, except the gun, which he in- 
tended not for his own defence, but to throw into 
the sea ; ^ for he always deemed it the act of a 
feeble spirit to take an advantage in any enter- 
prbe.** AVherefore, addressing the gun, he ex- 

" Perche pih non stea 
Mai cavalier per te d' esser ardito, 
Xe quante il buono val, mai piii si vanti 
II rio per te valer, qui giU rimanti. 
Oh maladetto, oh abominoso ordigno ! . 
Che fabbricato nel tartareo fondo 
Fosti per man di Belzebu maligno, 
Che ruinar per te disegnb il mondo, 
Air inferno, onde usciti, ti rassigno. 
Cosi dicendo lo gitta in profondo." 

** * That the valour of the knight mav never be laoibed 
to thee, nor the coward be enabled, by die advantage vladb 
thou givest him, to overcome the brave, lie thou there below. 
Oh, cursed instrument! oh, abominable device I ftfad* 
cated in the depth of Tariarmkry Beelzebub, who by tbes 
intended to lay waste the world ; I consign jthee to the 
hell from whence thou camest' So saj'ing he threw it 
into the abyss.** — Ibid, st 90, 91. 

I do not remember to have seen the coind* 
dence noticed between the passages above quoted 
from our two great poets, and the following senti- 
ment of the renowned cavalier Don Quixote dc 
la Mancha, in his " Curious Discourse on Arms 
and Letters:" 

" Bien hayan aquellos benditos siglos que cared^roB 
de la espantable furia de aquestos endcmoniados instm- 
mentos de la artillcrfa, & cuyo inventor tengo para mf aae 
en el infiemo se la esti dando el premio de su diabdoea 
invencion, con la qual did causa que un infame y cobarda 
brazo quite la vida d un valeroso caballero, y que sin 
saber cdmo 6 |)pr donde, en la mitad del corage y brio que 
enciende y anima d los valientes pccl^ Ucga una des* 
mandada bala, disparada de quien quiza huyoy se espanltf 
del resplandor que hizo el faego al disparar de la mudita 
mdquina, y corta y acaba en un instante los pensamientM 
y vida de quien la mare^ia gozar luengoe siglos. T §d 
considerando esto, estoy por dedr que en ahna me pasa 
de haber tornado cste exercido de caballero andanta en 
edad tan detestable oomo e^ esta en quo ahora viyiiBOi^ 
porque aonqoe i||lB&agan peligro me pone miado^ toda<» 

(0 40lM»tf Hdmna^LilUa 

Mas. 3. 1855.] 



rta 91 pone rt^JMlo pensAr tt U pdlTon y el 

ItM 4* ■Btar U oouicHi de hucermt £uiioM»jr 

Mf c£ laior dft ml bnto y filo« de mi espwU, pir todo lo 

dMdMcno 4e U Uefrau** 

■ H OM b1«aMd tgei tl»»i wen ctr«itg«n to 

IIm bor f ihoisv infenud ioi Iromeats oC Artiltc^« 

Mtfxiilar. 1 v«ry btli«ve» w iwv im hell, receiTiiiff tlbe 
i cf his diahalieat mtaUion, by tpc^ni of wliidh ll« 
^«ii ni/^iw>«i ^-^^ '-' - - -'— '-r lAe«MitMAiiml 
iMMiiii 4/ It/c Mill till • >i kaoiruig bow 

orfrom wbencv, io Ibe i "^^ ^''^ ''^' 

hitiofi which firctt aikI ommat^^-s goIUiit aptrJiit comfo i 
chance ball, ihot off" ptahMfm, br ooe th«t fled «nd was 
fnghienod at tbo fitsii of bf» own aeemrmd mutckmty and 
in an insLuii pot* an end to the lifv and p i irpoow of bijn 
who fkserred to hare lived tor &^. And therefore, 
when I coofider thH I sm ilmo^ r< ret haTin^ 

taken op the prafeflsioft of a kmgb: tm age to 

fieteatabke ai taia in whkh we lire ; : . ... -^-,^. ao d^n^r 
can daunt mt, idU it gires me some concern if> think 
tfaaCjMmdbtr-canf ^atf mar depriTe me of the opportuniiy 
of becQOliag tamoas an<i renovnfd through toe whole 
woiit^ Ibr the ralour of tar arm and the betlUMM of ray 

•tod.** — Tom* iL 1* parte, cap, xx^viii. 

fSLinat fiatti. 

J. W. TB01IA5, 


^ " ii^n were repairing 

^Btl Mar^\ Tuaro, they 

du^ up a cuiiui jj.u % uu wiiicu waf tiic followmg 
inscrijpticm: **Johii Nugent, second stm of ye 
Ru H'" -- K:irl Westniealh, aged 26 yeaii; 
filed Anno Dr»m. 17-25." (From .SiwN 


.r, Dec. 8, 1853.) 

Y. S. M. 

Zard CarlUle on " hU^rosu$r — Lord Carlisle, 
m Itls Diary ^ lately published, cbsiUenges any of 
hit readers to translate the word laUbrosus by an 
EogUsh e<juJralent, also one word. Now, it rather 
isrpriiies me, that hU lordship (evidently, from his 
limtUfiil Latin and Eofrlish poetry, one of our 
moii Acoomplldhed and cUssical schoUrs), should 
apipty to other* to do what, if be could not manage 
ft, f«rw wouM hii likely to strive after : but, using 
the privilege he gmnts, I would venture to sug- 
gest that our adjective ohicurt renders the mean- 
an nearly as one language can the other. 

•. . . . Ot might I here, 
Ib aolitwK live savage, in some glade 
Ob«ntf^ where highest woods, impenetrable 
To ssfi or starlight, spread their umbrage broad.** 

If o^arcir^ is not satisfactory, then we have 
Aldbfpfi, whiob also e^t presses concealment and um- 
bnffoousness ; and lastly fjfug^ which appears be^t 
of dl to correspond witn the sense of lattbrosuM, 

Would hb lordship allow me, in return, to a*k 
bbn liow he conatmes the ^* itnprobus labor" of 

" » * tabor omnia -rindt, 
Ifoprobu " 

More puzzling, I am inclined to think, than hU' 



Uaiv«ndty CInb. 

Inherent Strength and Sap of Xationalitiei n\ 
fferedilart/ Ptinciplfs : — The French Protesta^ 
and the P&le/t, — This stiVije<^t having been recentl; 
touched upon in ** N. & Q^** will you permit m 
to fjiy. in the present eventful crisis of poli 
tical a^arrs in Europe, and when th/» me^litations 
of statesmen and warriors are iri ' rected 

towards the best means of co«i : the 

enormous ambition of Russia, it is well to 
consolation and in^ttruction — as regards the 
ration of Poland aa a birrier on the West agaii 
Russian aggression — from observing the rital 
strength and permanency of nationalities and 
far- d»/sce tided principles, even when long down- 
trodden and oppressed, and threatened, of set pur- 
pose, with utter extinction. Every means that m 
ruthless despotism can devise have been set in 
openttion by Russia to extinguish national feelings 
and spirit m Poland, but in vain ; and whencTCr 
the hour of her deliverance sounds its joyous pealg 
we shall sec her start from her wakeful watcli; 
burning with life and enerjry* Thus it was with 
the Protestants in France, when restored to a part 
only of their natural rights by Louis XliT , in 
1787, just before the great Revolution. 

Weiss, in his valuable IBsiary of the French 
Protestant R^fugees^ says : 

•* It was adniirahle to observe that this people, excluded 
for more than a century from all empbyments, impeded 
in aU profeasiona, hunted like wolves in the forests and 
mottntaioa, wiLboat schools, without an^ family recog- 
nised by law, without any ci^rtaln inheritance, nad lost 
Qothing of iu ancient energy." 

The imperfect hgislation of 1787 was soon com- 
pleted by successive decrees of the revolutionary 
government, whiuh, iii this respect at least, is en- 
titled to the eternal gratitude of mankind. 

R. M. O. P, 

AppU-treeg in America. — In 1629 apples were 
cultivated in ilas^achusetts, the seed having been 
imported from England by order of the governor 
and company of the colony. Governor's Island, in 
Boston harbour, was given to Governor Winthrop 
in 1632, on condition that he should plant an or- 
chard upon it. The famous Baldwin apple, not 
unknown in England, originated in if assachusetts, 
and in that portion of the State now known as 
SomerviUe. (New York Sun^ Dec 1854.) 

w. w. 

Longevity. — Last evening (Feb. 2, 1855) dk^ 
in Wade Street, Pophir, Mr. G, Fletcher, whor^^ 
born on February % 1747. He therefore died <jw 
his birthday, and was aged exactly one hundred 
and eight. " His personal appearance was tall and 
spare, somewhat stooping in his gait. He fought 




[No. S7a, 

as a soldier in the American war ; and at the com- 
mencement of this century engaged in the senrice 
of the West India Dock Company, where he con- 
tinued for manj years. His end was hastened by 
a fall from a cart on Blackheath last summer.^ He 
was considered a very good man ; and, till within 
these few months, has been accustomed to preach 
occasionally for the Wcsleyans, to whom he was 
attached. A portrait of this truly remarkable 
man was published about twelve months since: 
and a letter appeared in The Times respecting 
hUn just at the dose of last year. I am sorry I 
cannot now furnish you with a fuller notice of 
this patriarch, who appears to have been much 
respected. B. H. C. 

QharlcM II *s Cap. — On the return of Capt Sir 
Richard Haddock, afler the battle of Solebay, 
King Charles II. bestowed upon him a very sin- 
gular and whimsical mark or his royal favour, a 
aatin cap which he took from his own head and 
l^ed upon Sir Richard's. It is still preserved 
la the family, with the following account pinned 
to it: I 

" This satin cap was given bv King Charles the Second 
in the year 1672 to Sir Richard tiaddock, after the Kii^lish . 
battle with the Dutch, when he had l>een Captain of the j 
' Royal James/ under the command of the Earl of Sand- 
wich, which ship was burnt, and Sir Richard had been ! 
wounded; given him on his return to London." — Naval ■ 
Gtronicle, xvi. 198. 

E. H. A. ; 



What is known of the personage, " Mackenzie 
of that ilk,** as his countrymen would say, whose 

Lettres ei Penaka du Maridud Prince dt I^mc, Paris st 
G^D^ve, 8vo. 1809, p. 7C. 

This eminent strat^ist enjoyed the confidence 
of the Empress Catherine, " auprcs de laqueUe,** 
according to tlie Bib. UniverMeUe, ^^ les gr&ces de 
son esprit, autant aue sa belle et noble physio- 
gnomic, lui avait fait obtenir des succcs de plus 
d'un genre.** One of these was the gift or sn 
estate in tiie Crimea ; and his letters from that 
storied land, which recent events have made 
** The ocean to the river of our thoHghia^" 
possess so peculiar an interest at the present mo- 
ment, that I am led to think that a few extract! 
from them (as the book is not common) may not 
be thought to occupy space unworthily. 

The Fortification of Sehojttopol. — 

** Yous saves, dit Tlmpc^ratrice, que votre France, laiii 
savoir pourquoi, prot^iro toujours les Musulmans. S^nr 
pilit, Nassau rougit, Fitzherbert boiUa, Col^enzl s'ogiti, 
et je ris. Eh bien, point du tout ; il n'avoit 4v6 qoedtioii 
que de b&tir un magasin dans une des sept ancei dn 
fameux port de S<ivastopol. Quand je j>arle de mes eao&- 
rance-s h cc sujet h Se'i;ur, il me dit : — Nous perdrioD*les 
<fchelles du levant ; et je lui n^ponds : — 11 faut tirer 
rdchellc aprbs la sottise ministerii'lle que vous >'enez de 
fairc par votre confession gonerole de pauvrcte ik rossem- 
blee ridicule des Notables." — P. 49. 

Classic Recollections of the Crimea. — 

" C*eat peut-ctre ici qu'Ovide <fcrivoit ; peut-ctie ilctoit 
sssis oil je suis. Ses Regies sont de Ponte : voiia le Poot- 
Euxin ; ceci a appartenu k Mithridate, Koi de Pont; et 
comme le lien de Vezil d'Ovido est assez inceitain, j*sl 
plus de droit 4 croire que c*est ici qu'u CaramtaAAes, siui 
que le pretendent les Trsnsilvains. 

" I^ur titre h, cette pretention c*est : Cora mia wedea, 
dont ils s'imagincnt que la prononciation corrompne a fiut 
le nom que je vicns de riter. Qui, c*est Porthenuzo, dont 
I'acoeni Tartare a chang^ le nom Grec, qui ^toit Partha- 
nion, et vouloit dire Vierge ; c'est ce fameux cap Partht- 
nion oil il s'est pass^ tant de choses : c*6st ici que la 
nation. Tous les talens as 

Mtate or farm is so frequcntlv mentioned m the | service des Dieux dels fable exir^oient ici ieur tmnin. 
Crimean dispatches? Is it to him that the Prince Veux-jc un instant quitter la fable pour I'histoire? Ja 
de Ligne refers; and his family, at whose hands 
the prince received the graceful hospitality of 
whicn he speaks in one of his letters from the 
Heradeontic Chersonesus (1787) ? 

** Comme je revenois sous la conduite de mon ronn^- 
table, j'ai cm me tromperen voyont une maieon au milieu 
de ddierts odorifi^ans, mois plats et verts comme un bil- 
lard. J'ai bien cm me tromper davontoge en la trouvant 
blanche, propre, eotour^ d un terrain cultiv<^, dont la 
moitie' ^toit un verger, et Tautre moiti^ un potager, qui 
traversoit le plus pur et le plus rapide des misseaux; 
mais j'ai iXj^ bien plus surpris encore d'en voir sortir 
deux figures celestes habill^ en blanc, qui m*ont pro- 
pose' de m'asseoir k une table couverte de Heurs, sur la- 
<|neUe il y avait du beurre, et de la creme. Je me rap- 
vdai les d^euners des romans anglois. G'<^ient les fillcs 
Vim ricfae fermier ^ue le miziistre de Kossie k Londres 
•volt Mivoy^ an pnnoe Potemkin, pour faire des essois 
4'agricaUure an Tauride. J*en reviens aux admirations 
•t aux marveilles. Nous avons trouvi^ des ports, des 
9rm^ at itas flottes dans I'Aat la plus brillant Cherson 
^a^raaiopol mupuseat toot ca qa'on paat an dice.**-*. 

d^uvre Eupatori, fotidec par Mithridate : je ramaasa id 
pr^s, dans ce vieux Cherson, des d<^bris de colonnea d'al- 
batrc ; ie rencontre des rented irac|ueducs et dea man qid 
me prMentent une enceinte aussi grande k la foia qoi 
Londres et Paris. Ces deux villes passeront comma oeua- 
14."— P. 66. 

The Niece of the last Khan. — 

" Je n'ai aper^u qu'une seule fcmmc : c'est une PrinoaBR 
du sang, la nlbce du dernier Sultau Saym Gheray. L*Im- 
IM^ratrice, devant qui elle se d^voilo, m'a fait cachar der- 
Tihn un ^ran ; elle etoit belle comme le ioor, et avoit 
plus de diamans que toutes nos femmes de Vicnne en- 
semble, et c'esi boaucoup dire." — P. 82. 

Impressions and Reflections. — 

"Je comptois ^ever mon &me, en arrivant dans k 
Tauride, par les erandes choses vraies et fiiossea qui m*j 
sont pasaees. Mon esprit ^toit pr^t h se toaraar T«n 
Ph^rolque avee Mithridate, le fabnleox avec Iphig6ii% k 
militoire avec lesRomains, les beaux-arts avaca laa Gf«% 
le brigandage avec tea Tartares, et le mercantile avec lai 
G^ois. Tons cfa gans-14 ma aont assaa CuniliarB : mail 


AK. S.- 1855.] 



'roicl bten d*un autre, Traiment; iU ont tons dhpam 
tr lea Mille at aoe nulta. J« Kuist Aau^ )e Hftr«ni do 
nior Kan de Crimde^ qui a eu bien tort de levor ik^ii 
up, <9t d'Abandc^nner, 11 y a quatro uns, dtix Riimm» !• 
a beau pavB du moiide. La i«ort m'a dt^^tin^ 1a cham« 
I d« I* f las Jollc de se^ aiiltaues, tit h ix^ui csIIq du 
ijer de »ea eunuques noirs/" — P. 61. 

[Miliiary Costume and AccoutremenU. — 

*Le Turrs m'ont fait fairc line autre reflexion tp&9- 
importanto. Il» courent, ila gfrimpent, ils sauteut, parce 
qaila mm armt^ et liabili^ & la leg^re. Le poidj que 
portent l«a wta CbrdCieni Im emp€cli« presqne de w mou* 
▼oir. '— R 172: 

I would wiOmgly quote more if space allowed, 
especially from chap, xi., where the diameter of 
the Turks h drawn with the vii^ornu? hand which 
haa so skilfully traced the portraiture of Priaec 
Potemkm (p. 164.), " ventabU'nieiit un chef- 
d'ctuvre" as the editress of thi^ volume, Madame 
de Staelj observes. 

The collected works of this spiritnel warrior 
were published in 30 vols* r2mo., Viennii and 
Dreadeu, 1 B07 ; and a reference to the second 
d]vii<ion, '*(EuYres militaires et ^Cfitiineiitairea," 
will not be found aDproductive of interest. 


^tmrr <fturrtftf. 

^* A Soldier* s Fortntie.^* — One of Ibe works by 
Mrs. Marshy the author of £miiie Wtmfhani^ and 
other popular no vela, which is named The Triumphs 
g/" Tiote^ contains two tales transbited from the 
French* The first of these is taken from De 
Vigny's Vie MilUaire, Who was tlio nuthor of 
the other, called by the translator A Soldiers For^ 
tunef It is a very interesting story ; and would, 
with slight alterations, such us the omission of 
miperlluous oaths^ be a popular and useful uSe for 
the yonnj; and for the working classes — showing' 
forth as it doea the benevolence of a sister of 
<!harity and of a poor apothecary, and the hard- 
ships of a soldier s life. Now thiit there is so 
nrneh brotherly feelmg between the annies, tales 
of this kind, wliich throw light upun the amiable 
points of French character, might be usefully dis- 
seminated ; though we hope never to lose the 
strong pointfl of English rectitude, through ad- 
miration of scenic sentimentality- I have endea- 
voured in vain to discover the author of A 
Soldiers Fortune, C. (2) 

Rogers and Hughes. - — I have a small oil picture 
by Rogers, which must have been painted about 
me time of Nieton, and another by Hughes (son 
of a Sir R. Hughes) ; who died young, and just j 
after he had been appointed portrait painter to 
Her Majesty I so the story is told. Can any of 
your readers oblige me with ioformatioti as to 
either of these parties ? R, L, 

AdvowMont alienated to mannrlal Lardg^ hnw f 
— Hutchins records, In hi a Hinb>ry of Dorset* 
shire ^ that twenty -seven advowsons of rectories i 
and seven of vicarngeii passt»d from religioua 
houses at the Reformation to the several lords of j 
the manors in which the churches were situate. J 
Many others became vested in the Crown, ijl'J 
private individuals, and in colleires, by legal^^ 
tenure ; but the process is not named by wlucb 
manorial lords became seised of their advowsons. 
Is that process known ? J. B. 

Eni^atical Verses. — In the Additional MS. 
[>35l,, in the British Museum, is a treatise in Latta 
on the games of Chess, Tables (i.^. baekframmon), 
and Merell-H; illustrated with numerous diagrams. 
It wajs compiled by an inhabitant of Bologna, who 
conceals his natne in some obscure rhythmical 
verses prefixed by way of preface. The treatise 
is dated by the rubrJcator 1466, which is probably 
the date of transcription; but the period of ita' 
composition may be much earlier. The verses 
are as follows, copied literally : 

" Ubiconqtio fuerifi : ut sis generosus. 
>I©c te aubde* ociis : nam vir ociosus, 
Sive lit ignobilis : sive generosus. 
Ut tefftalur sapiens: erit vkiosus. 
L't a tjj rem ovens vidum prefitam; legas et lalcUigas 

boni: me urn tractatma, 
Et ale cum nubillibua curdij ad optatuoa : oertui mm 

quod poteris iaveuiro statum. 
Statutn ad seacarii me volvo partita : io qao multiplf- 

dter fluni inflinita. 
QaoruDi bic sunt plurima lucDlontcr scita: at finta 

mens labilj!! quamijumquti sit obljta. 
Ibi 5«'mcl posituin Durtquiim iteralur; podtea de Tabulla 

certuTU dotima tiatiir. 
Turn Mexillo* [/, M«?rellcxi] docet quibu* pkbi jocatuT : 

et sic «ab oompoadlo libor terminatar. 
Hec bitjuH opuM:uli series est tola. Quit aim scira 

poteris traddens tot ignota. 
Versuai [^wj vcrsuiim] principiia sillabas tu nota. Eo- 

nindem media litcra remota. 
Civia sum Bononic iitaqui collogi. Qui aiib brevilDqaio 

varia com peg i, 
Disponente domioo ©pus quod peregl, Preseatari prin- 

cjpi posset sivfl regi,*' 

Is there any reader of "* N. & Q " who can assist 
me in decyphering the name thus enigmatically 
expressed 't n, 

Etching hj Beinhrandt. — I have by me an 
etching of Rembrandt'a representing the death of 
a person of consequence. To the ri^'ht of the 
bed are some priests, to the left the doctors and 
nurses and afflicted relatives, and a group of 
staring gossiping attendants about the door. The 
attitudes and countenances are quite wonderfully 
natural. Of course this etching must bi2 wdtt 
known ; but my t^iiery is^ Whose death is it sup- 
posed to represent ? Aitok. 

Decrees issued bif the Congregation of the /a- 
dejt. — I have just recw^Xtoi^^^^'^':**^'^''^^^*'^ 




(who on inquiry is not able to give me the in- 
formation I seek) seven "Decreta" issued by the 
Cougregation of the Index, each specifying sundry 
boolu as prohibited : 

** lUque nemo cujoscumque gradus et conditionis prffi> 
dicta Opera damnata atqius proscripta, quocumque loco, 
et quocumque idiomatc, aut in posteram ederc, aut edita 
legere, vcl retinere audeat sou locorom Ordinoriis, aut 
hiereticiB pravitatis Inquisitoribus ea tradere teneatur, sub 
poenis in Indice librorum vetitomm indictis." 

These Decrees are octavo size, each Decree oc- 
cupying with the works specified two and a half 
pages, printed at Rtyrne: Ex Typographia Rev, 
Cam, Apost The dates of those I possess are : 
April 26, 1853; July 24, 1853; September 5, 
1853; December 10, 1853; February 13, 1854; 
April 6, 1854; September 5, 1854. Now my 
Queries on these are : 

1. How can I obtain these regularly as issued ? 

2. Where could I get an accurate list of the 
dates of those issued since the publication of the 
last Index at Rome. (Query 1835; I have its 
Mechlin reprint of 1843.) 

3. Are these Decrees published in any collected 
official form ? and where ? 

4. Are similar decrees issued in Spain ? and if 
so, how can they be procured ? Enivri. 

CusheDdall, co. Antrim. 

New 'Moon. — Will any correspondent favour 
me with an accurate rule for finding the time of 
new moon? The rules I have met with are hardly 
intelligible to an unastronomical capacity. 

E. S. Taylor. 

NumUmatic. — I have in my possession a small 
bronze coin which I found in tltc neighbourhood of 
Trasimene. On the obverse is a head of a negro, 
the reverse has an elephant, both beautifully de- 
signed. This coin has no inscription. I should 
be very much obliged to any one who could give 
me any particulars on its origin. 

F. DE Bernhardt. 

34. Dover Street, Piccadilly. 

Colonel Norman buried in Guernsey . — It is 
said that this gentleman, or some one bearing the 
name of Norman, whether a military man or a 
civilian, is buried in a churchyard distant a very 
few miles (a morning drive) from Peter le Port, 
Guernsey; and that the tombstone records that 
he was the son of a Norman of Bleadon, or Bridge- 
water, in Somerset. A copy of the inscription, 
together with any particulars relating to this 
Norman, or his family, would not only gratify the 
curiosity, but perhaps prove greatly to the benefit 
of A Descendaitt. 

House of Cohurg. — The present Queen will, 
I presume, be the last sovereign of the Brunswick 
line. The Prince of Wales, when he comes to the 
throno^ iriil be the first of a new dynasty. We 

have had in succession the Plantageneta, tte 
Tudors, the Stuarts, and the Guelphs. Will lone 
one of your correspondents supply the aumame of 
the Coburg family ? £. H. A 

''Yew Tree Aoenue'' at TytherUy^ HmU,^ 
When and by whom made P A. W. 

''Leigh Ilunfs JourtuiV^ — I ahoald feel T«y 
grateful to any of yuur readers who would favomr 
me with information of the quantity of numben 
issued of this work, and where I could procnre 
one or more copies. Geo. Nbwbouk 

Campion's " Decern Rationes,** — In 1581, Faths 
Campion printcl, at a private press at Stonor, an 
edition of his famous Decern Raiiones^ four hun- 
dred copies of which were secretly distributed st 
Oxford before the great University Meetinc. 
There is no copy of this edition in the Brira 
Museum or the Bodleian. Can one be pointed 
out in any public or private library P C. D.B. 

De Caut Family, — Could any of your cone- 
spondents furnish me with the genealogy of tke 
family of De Caut, who it is supposed fled to thr 
eastern coast of England at the time of the revo- 
cation of the Edict of Nantes P And whether aaj 
of their descendants are known now to exist in 
the mother country (France) ? W. II. Tiller. 

Wychlyffe^ and the Doctrine of Dominion /oMadd 
inOrace, — In the Advertisement to Dr. Todd^t 
edition of Wycklyffe's Three Treatises^ the Al- 
lowing passage occurs : 

*" They [the doctrines of the < Treatise on the Chuck'J 
differ, in tact, but little from the dangerous and wtOr 
social principles afterwards put forward by tho exticaft 
Puritans of a subsequent age, who maintained that DiH 
minion was founded in Grace/* &c. 

Inquirer would feel much obliged if any of the 
contributors to '*" N. & Q/* would point out the 
paragraph in the '^ Treatise on tlie Church,** whick 
appears to show that Wycklyflfe maintained the 
Doctrine of Dominion being founded in Grace? 

The careful and erudite manner in which the 
above work has been edited, is felt by lNQnxui> 
not only as an obligation to himself as a reader oC 
Church history, but renders him a little doubtful 
as to the propriety of querying anything aaecartel 
by the editor in connexion with it. He writ«i^ 
however, solely for information, afler having care- 
fully examined the work referred to hinuelf. 

Latimer or Latymer, — Sir John Latimer, i 
son of William, first Lord Latimer of Danby, wha 
died in 1305, married Joan, daughter and heire* 
of Sir William de Gouis, Knt. (Burke*s ExttiKdL 
Peerage,) Could thb have been the same penoa 
who, in Harl. MS. 1451. is called Kobert La^ 
mer (died 1336), who married Joan, daughter of 
William Goude (died 1311)? And which spdliaf 

Mau, 3, ia55,] 



is correct ? This Robert was father of Sir Robert 
Laljrmer of Fittlford, Boraetslnre, Knt., in 1379. 
IThat arms did Gouis or Goude bear? And what 
> tJie armi of Walter Ledit, Baroo of Warden, 
KortfaamptooBhu'e, grand fa tber of Sir John 
Mimer ? The Latymer arms in the above MS- 
I given as *^ Gules, a crosa patoncee or, charged 
ph fife roundlets sa/' Y* S. M. 

' Mdtcard Gibbes. — A Genealogist would be 
Wiged by any information respecting the ancestry 
jid burial of Edward Gibbes, Esq., Deputy- 
Jove rti or of Chepstow Castle, and major in the 
rmy ; he is described as of Gloucestershire, and 
left a eon, Edward Gibbes, Esq., of the city of 
Gloucester, born 1666, and buried at Barrow in 
170iJ, aged thirty-six. He is supposed to have 
luid a younger son* 

Minor ^nttUH taitb ^n^^tri. 

ff Eeviews of Charles Auchestcr, — Can any of 
pii your correspondentii tell me where I can find a 
Ig' book called Charity Aucheder reviewed, which 
^< was published In 3853? A Cecilian. 

I « [It \vfl» reTiewed in The Athcmx^m of Nav. 1% 1853, 
^] p. 1352., ftud in the Lkemrt/ Gaz. of Oct, 1, 1«53, p. 953.] 

( ** Where Scoggin looked for his Knife" g-^c. — 

^gfcl rial of Elizabeth Cellter for writing and pub^ 
^wishing a libel, 

mm ** OdHer, I desire George Grange may b« called* (Who 

wtA flwoni.) 
^ . Mr. Baram WtHnn, What can you say for Mrs. Cel* 
licr ? Tell me what (|ueation» you will ask him ? 

Celh'er, I ^lesire to know wheth&r I did not send hini 
find witneaaea? Wio he went for? What aiuwers 

ley returned? And where they ho? 

Mn Bar. tViotom, Well, what witnesses were you sent 
to look for? 

Craugf. I went to look foronc Mrs. Sheldon, that U%-cs 
^ Sir Jo&eph Sheldon's house ; thi;y Cold me she was m 

laex. I went to the ccmch to send for her. 

Mr, Bar, IFattm, Why, Scoggin looked for his knife 
on the house-top.'*— 5iaie TriaiM, vol iii p. 07., second 
edition^ 1730. 

iearned bai'on here evidently quotes a pro- 

rb, and one which I cannot find in Ray, or 

collection that I have consulted. Can you, 

Editor, or any of your numerous correspon- 

ttta, point out where it is to be found, or give 

By clue as to what its allusion is ? C. de D. 

[This seems to be one of Scoggin's jests, and ivill pro* 

hly be found in the following scarct' work, " The First 

i But Fart of SeowiV* letU : full of vvitty Mirth and 

- int ShifU, done by him in France and other Places: 

: a Preservative against Melancholy, gatbered bv 

fw Boord, Doctor of Pbysicke, London, 12mo„ 1626." 

notices of Scogan, of Scoggin, will he found in 

OTi's Hist, of EngLvik Poetry, vol, ii. p. 335., edit 

40 ; MaIoDB*8 notea to Shaktpeare, i i/*rn. IV^ ActllL 

■ 2ii aiid Nares'a Olouaj^, a. v.] 

Hats, — Can yon tell me the meaning of the fol- 
lowing entries in the book of the churehw^irdens^l 
accounts of the parish of Woodbury^ in Dcvou^J 
shire ? 

" Mich* 1576 ^o Mich* 1577.— Paid to the Coimnit-^ 
sionera for wearing of hattei, 12i." 

•* Mich* 1577 to Mich' 1578. — To Gregory Stoke «& 
concerning hattes, 18d** 

Heksy H. Gibes. 

[ These entries seem to relate to the act passed in 157U 
13 EtizAbeth, c. 19,, for the continuance of making and 
wearing woollen caps, in behalf of the trade of Cappers, 
when it was enacted, that •♦ evury person (except ladies, 
peers, Sec.) shall on Sundays and holidays wear od their 
head a cap of wool, made in Enghind, by the Cappecsi 
penalty, 3*. 4tl per day." This act was repealed by 
39Eliz. c. 18.] 

Booh'imrm, — I am desirous of information as 
to the nature, &c. of the worm which injures otd 
books, and any means of checking and destroying 
it. B. W. 

[Among other means to prevent the ravages of this 
insect, it has been recommended that the book bo &hut up 
in a boJt along with some camphor or hartshoroi; the 
leaves opened, so as to allow tne vapour to penetrate 
{Gent. Mm., Feb, 1844, p. 114.). Another corrcflpondent 
recommends a solutien of corrosive sublimaie of mercury 
In clean rain-water, applied with a pen or feather to the 
covers (i6. June, 1844, p. 596.)* Other directions are 
given in Hees^s Cyttfjpofdia, s. v,, where will be found 
some notices of the different species of this niiscbievouji 
insect. See also " Jf. & Q.; 
VoL ix., p. 627.] 


Vol, viii., p. o2<J. ; and 

Sir Francis Slonar. — Sir Francis Stonor, Knt,, 
of Stonor, co. Oxford, left money wherewith the 
stone rail about the King*s Bath, Bath, was 
erected. Can any of your correspondents supply 
me with information concerning him or his familyP 
R. Wii.BaAMAM Falcojikr, M.I). 


[Some notices of the Stonor fimiily will he found in 
Jfooiaa Britannia^ voL iv. p. 425. ; and Scautkx of Eng- 
lana ami Waletf vol. xii, part il p. 322.] 

f Eci^litif* 



(Vob xi., p. 122.) 
It is sin3:ular that the question put by Mr. Way 
has never been raised before, for Skinner, in his 
Ettjmohgicfin^ has availed himself so largely of 
this *' English Dictionary," as naturally to lend to 
inquiry ; perhaps it was to some, who would take 
interest in its idenlilication, considered too ob- 
vious lltr remark. For myself I must confess, 
without ever attempting to verify the quotations, 
I conclude^l that they were nia.d^ «^\\W^ ^^^a 
Blount's 6^ia«ogTupK\a, ^t ^\i^%V^* Iflitxe^^^^ 



[No. 879. 

of Words, MB the most coptoas English dictionaries 
produced about that time. In using these two 
Dooks I had oflen been struck with the remark- 
able similarity of the explanations of obsolete 
words, and concluded that one must have copied 
from the other, or else both from some common 

Mr. Wat*s question led me to examine more 
dosely. My first reference was to Blount^s Gloi- 
sographia, of which the only edition accessible to 
me at present is the fifth, printed in 1681. In 
this Oowti does not appear, out we have ^ Ooutes, 
common sinks or sewers.** Of the other words 
mentioned by Ms. Wat we have the following 
only: — JJames, Heek, Mond, Pauage, Posade, 
JS^rahtts, TanacUs, Ruttier, Wreedt, BagoteU, 
Berry (explained thus, "a dwelling-place or 
court : the chief house of a manor, or the lord*s 
seat, is so called in some parts of England to this 
day, especially in Herefordshire, where there are 
the Berries of Luston, Stockton," &c.), Griffe 
graffe^ Himjole, Tampoon, VaudevU. I concluded, 
therefore, that this could not be the dictionary 
cited. I then turned to Edward Phillips*s New 
World of Words, or a Oeneral English Dictionary, 
the third edition, 1671, fol. Here GowU does 
not appear in any form, but all the other words, 
irith exactly the explanations cited by Skinner ; 
so that I at once concluded Uiat it must be the 
first edition of this book which he quotes, and in 
which probably the author's name does not appear, 
but merely his initials E. P., and it is possible 
that Gowts would there be found. 

It appears that the first edition of Blount's 
Olossographia was published in 1656, and in 
1658 the first edition of Phillips's World of 
Words, There was naturally a rivalry between 
the two publications. Not having any of the 
earlier editions of the Glossographia at hand, I 
cannot say who commenced the attack, but in the 
preface to this third edition of the World of 
Tr^rei!f, Phillips thus glances at some of the defects 
of his rival : 

** I do not deny, indeed, but that there are many wonls 
in this book (though fewer than in other hooks of this 
kind) which I would not recommend to any for the purity 
or reputation of them ; bat withall I have set my mark 
upon them, to beware of them either in discourse or 
writinfj; and if any of them have chanc't to have escap't 
the Obelisk, there can arise no other inconvenience from 
it but an occasion to exercise the choice and judgement 
of the reader (especially being forewarned), who if he 
have a fancy capable to Jadge of the harmony of words, 
nd their musical cadence, cannot bnt discern when a 
word falls naturally from the Latin termination, when 
frre't and torn from it, as Imbelliek, which might indeed 
come from /mMKrac, if any such word were ; but how 
th^r can handsomely deduce it from ImbeBit, is hard to 
TCSolve; if tUs be bad, impnter^ttibk is worse, bmng de- 
livid aaltlitr I nor snybody else know how, siooa PWs- 
^srA^lntf it the meumt th^ cua go, N«r less to be ex- 
MM i9 the word Smtkk, whkb may as w«lV wmh ts 
^^''^JMUo of Siis^ M tow, ultom 8uL ThmmiiSm, 

worth the pains of avoiding, certain kind of mnle-wordi^ 
propagated of a Latin aire and Greek dam, such as Aeri^ 
hffie, Auri^raphy, and others ejmsdemfarim^** 

Now these words are to be found in Blonnt^s 
Glossographia ; and smarting under this noild 
censure, and perhaps from being interfered with 
by a learned and able rival, it appears that he 
published a pamphlet in 1673 in folio, so that it 
might be bound with hb rival's book, under the 
following title : 

<< A World of Errors disoo^-ered hi the New Worid of 
Words, or General Eng^lish Dictionary; and NomoAdba, 
or the Interpreter of the Law." 

The Nomothetes being also a rival publication to 
Blount's Law Dictionary. This pamphlet I have 
not seen. 

Skinner, although he has so copiously avuled 
himself of Phillips in regard to obsolete words, 
has not been grateful to him, but deals out his 
censure on many occasions. Thus tn voce 

^ Borith, Authori Diet Angl. apud quern solum occurrit, 
exp. herba qui fuUones maculas pannis eximunt ; utiaam 
Tulgatius herba nomen protulisset, vel cujus provinds 
propria sit, haec vox nam certfe communis non est, oetsB- 
disset ; interim proclive et justum est ipsum hanc, at it 
mnltas alias, ex proprio cercbro finxisse existimare." 

Under the word Cosh, afler giving the ezpfaui- 
ation of Phillips, he says: ^ ridicule nt aolet 
omnia ; " and under Dag he thus breaks out : 

** Vox qui hoc sensu in solo Diet AngL oocnrrit, obi 
notare est miserrimam Authoris ignorantiam, qui Tor- 
mentum bellicum manuarium minus a pistott exponit, et 
dictum putat k Dads, qui primi hoc armomm genen asi 
sunt Imb ultimi omnium Europs populomm. v. Zlafk 
in Et. Gen." 

We turn to Dagger in the Etymol. Gensnde^ and 
find the absurdity on the part of Skinner, who 

there says : 

« Author Diet. Angl. Dag et Dagger, k Dads gSBts 
nobili dicta putat, nuod unde rescivcrit nesdou Bitii 
ftlidter allndit Gr. ^vyw* Acuo! " 

Under the word CoOock Skmner says: ^Cnds 
igitur Authorem hie, ut fer^ semper, somniasse;** 
and under Rigols, ** Author somniando, ut solet^* 
&c. In other places, "pro more Authoris exponitor 
absordissime, &c. The Etymoiogieon is a higWf 
valuable book, no doubt ; but the tables might wcfl 
be turned upon its author in regard to absord 
etymologies. Skinner was a Lincolnshire mao» 
and has preserved to us many local words. Ha 
was no doubt of the family x^erred to by yoor 
correspondent Chaktham, at p. 128. of this volume. 
He died in 1667, <and his book, which was not 
published until 1671, (tid not receive the adns- 
tage of his own ultimate revision. 

The dictionary of Phillips is interesting as wcB 
as nseinl, for ia it we fancy we trace the inflneMI 
of the oompiler*f vnele, the illnstrioiu MikoB. 
There are many refereneei to poetie fable, tf4 
asno'nij^ o>3[l«ev ^^<^ ^ich woold eertaial j hste 

. L 1855.] 



> t^tnek llie tje of Sm FmrnnsEtc ILumsn when 
limhai ooctaon ta coniuk Uie book : 

llAVBiaoK, « eertam Duuali IbttadEB^ «f flk* royal 

; whOb M it if rapotted, wi# fovtarod b^ «m GrimB, 

hmUU aii4 froon a aciiUeo m the kiog't kiidwii, woa 

Yaioar and conduct io imlltuj taban, promoted 

to tb< marriA^ af the king*! daughter." 

the irord GowU will be foond in tlie firtt 
of 1658 I nuike no doubl, fts X find it in 
GoiopA^/actvin AagUeamaru 1689, wbich b^ 
borrowed much {rom l^iillipfl, tibm : 

** CmaU^ a word moch oied in SeneneUhire, «igniMkg 
' CMBAlap 9r piifiet SD4er gioood; frooi the Yr.-G. GovtUs, 
I diop» ; wheooe fioaa Ih« wionl Etyotdtr, i<t run down drop 
^H by drop; all from iKt Latin £;*«ia, a drop,'' 

^H ^e dlciionarj of FhllJipa continued popular for 
^Hmore than half a eenturj ; an editioOf consider- 
^■«bfj enlAfgtd, was giyen bj John Kersej, Philo- 
^hibl,, in 1706. 

A work containing a complete chronological 
I account of Engliah lexicography and lexico* 
[ ffraphcrs, would be a moi^t accepuble addition to 
' Cnjcrtibtics and literary history* I have reason to 
think tlml my late friend, At. Doue^ once oon- 
tenpUted aooieibiiig of the kind, and know that 
km had made ooltootkinf on the tuhject. In the 
fmeiit nior« adraaeed ttaie of philological in- 
^niriea^ it ij to be hiiMd thai some cue of the 
taavy bif biy qualified pbilologerB of ow time may 
bt indaoed to achieve a work which mi^ht a6*<ird 
histotical view of tbe progre&slYe 
m OUT language. 8. W, JjiufaiK. 

Tike ** itDgular difficulty now fbr the first time 
abmiltad*' by Ma, Wat **for ia»ectigation," 
wAer the abore heading, admita of eaay *olutioii : 
iC wiihmtt pretumptioDf that may be termed €a«y 
of difootery* ** which haa been long nought in VAin 
hj Sir F. Madden, and which found the late 
Blr. Rodd at fault." 

Thm DieiitmtiriMm Anglitmm, used by Skinner, 
n£emA to by Mr* \\'at» ig merely — 

^ Hi* ITcw World of Esftlsh W<»t1», or, a General 

^^ «oiitaif»faig the Interpretation ofaoeh hard 

ire dflRTed ffom other X^aagiiarea, whediar 

, ^ €o|]«ct«d and jraMiihad by E. F. 

^- j priniMl by IL Tylar for Kith. Brooke, at the 
^^Plthm* Aagel' in ComhiU, l&dS.'* 

li it hardly neoeaaary to aay, that E. P, ia 
E4wvd PiiiUipa. W* E. AAaowaKtro. 

MmUtt Brmtelgn, 

<m uxiic rtrBLtsiTEn m tss nrrsKSrrH 

(Vol u^ |i. 199.) 

cofrnoiulfeOl M. aaks, *' What is the 
fttiawi book on Logic 

lie inentionf 

the expoation of Petrof Hispanui by Job. Vcr- 
sor, in 1473 ; and the SMmaml^i of Paufus Yenetua, 
in 1474. If these dates are correct, there h little 
doubt that M* haa discovered what he aaka for. 
From Mr. Robert Blakey^'s valuable, but imper* 
feet Catalogue of VVorki on Logic, appended tohJa 
JSssay on Loric^ I cuU the Sallowing names of 
works on Logic pobtiahed in the fifteenth century i 
** BtindADOjs (J.V Sutaiiiala in I^t^^^aa, & L. liS7« 4te. 
Ajuina (AAtAoioiiaX QnialifliiM in Afiutt tlin Loickas, 

Albeitua ICvnas, Cbmraentana in tr Ifbroa Logte 

Ariakvt GoTon^ H90, foL 
Alb«rtiH Magnus Opera ad Locieam pecHnontia, Tenet 

Aibertna Magmai CooaMDtaria in laagagm Porphyxii 

et in oinjiaa lihcoaAruttoL de velete Loe^: CoL 

Agr. 14M. foL 
Bricohu (Tbomas), Abhre. Textua iotina Loglont 

Paris, UM, 
AJbertui Magnus, Epttomata nve Ri^antknai Logics 

▼eteria et norm Aiiitot ; CoL, 1 496, 4ta 
Vad BruAael, Faclllima in Ajutotelis Logica Interpre- 

taiio : Pona* U9G, 4to. 
Burid*j»uB (J,\ Compendjmn LofrScae: Tenets 1490. 
Valenos (C), ENs EHalettiiA, lib iii,: Yeaet, 1489. 
(AnooytnoosV Commentaria in jt Hbeoa nova Logies 

aacoodum Proceaaua hunm Lavroit. Colon, obi DoC' 

tdna AlberU liagiii, etc : CokuL, 14H f^l" 

To these works horn Biakey's Catalogue^ I add 
the following : 

<* CoromenL in prim. lib. pr. AnaL Arislot. Of.: Yenatt 
Talk (Laarentlua)* De Dialectidkt TcaeL. 1499." 

I Bball be obliged to any of your eorrespondeats 
who may assist roc in the completion of a Cata- 
logue of Works on Logic published in the fifteenth 

Has your correspondent M* ever seen the two 
works which he retera to ? I have especial doubia 
as to the date he gives of the Summtike of Venetus. 
Mistakes in dates are not uncommon in catalogues; 
e.^^ Mr. Blakey gives 1*202 as the date of an 
edition of No^V Logimte de Condillaef 

Perhaps Faor. Da Morgak would assist me ifi 
completing the Catalogue in question. 

C. Mai»fieij> Iholbbt. 


(Vol X., p. 507.) 

In ipite of Yalenttne, Lord doncurry, with 
hit* obnoxious pamphlet, his connexion with 
'^United Irishmen,'' and bis friendship for 
Cardinal de York^ I cannot help believing thai 
Your correspondent R. C. C, is correct in the view 
be takes of the Jacobites as they existed in 1807- 
I eooUl have wished the accomplisbed writer in 
H<mM*kM Wordt to have given ua hi* authoritiei. 
As he has not doxve «>^ %> ^^w x^xft*^** %«:^^«^ 
may noi bt decmeii \ntcu^x«* 




[Na 279, 

In Mr. R. ChsLmhen' History of the ReheUian of 
1745-6, we find the Cardinal de York described 
as " a mild, inofiensive man.** We know that 
when in 1747 he was made Cardinal, the exiled 
Jacobites regarded his advancement as the final 
destruction of their hopes. Many of them did 
not scruple to " declare it of much worse conse- 
cnience to them than even the battle of Colloden.** 
(Mahon*s History of En^kmd^ vol. iii. p. 349.) 
From this time the Cardinal devoted himself to 
church afiairs. On his brother*s death, in 1788, 
the only steps he took towards declaring his title 
to the English throne, was to have a declaration 
read publicly, which had been prepared in 1784, 
when Charles was thought to oe dying; and a 
medal struck, with the inscription, " Hen. ix. Ang. 
Bex,** with the addition "£)ei Gratia, sed non 
voluntate hominum.** Surely the latter part of 
this inscription must have sounded as a satire to 
his eara, and to those of the adherents of hb house 
who still remained. 

Both Lord Mahon and Mr. Chambers consider 
the Jacobiteparty as crushed by the battle of 
Culloden. The executions on Tower Ilill, and 
the wholesale butchery on Kennington Common, 
destroyed the strength of the friends of Charles, 
although Jacobitism existed as a sentiment much 
later. " But it became identified with the weak- 
ness of old age.** It was a thing of the past. 
Tory rectors and country gentlemen were still 
wont to toast Prince Charles, just as their fathers 
had toasted the Chevalier St. George. They 
were vehement in their abuse of the House of 
Hanover, and in their admiration of the House of 
Stuart. But we obtain a fair estimate of the 
value of their good wishes in the case of Dr. John- 
son. He confessed to Boswell that ** the pleasure 
of cursing the House of Hanover and urinking 
King James*8 health was amply overbalanced by 
8001, a year." 

It appears to me that the writer in Household 
Words has confounded the lingering sentiment of 
1788 (the date of Charles*s death) with the active 
partizanship of 1746. Until he con prove his case 
against the " exemplary Cardinal,** we must con- 
sider his statements as overstrained. 


1. Portland Terrace, Dalaton. 

I doubt, with R. C. C, the statement in House- 
hold Words, but ask, What is the authority for 
his own, that Cardinal York bequeathed his papers 
to Georffe III. ? I always understood that the 
Cardinalbequeathed to Georf^e IV. the " Greorge** 
which had been worn bv Charles I., and some 
other crown jewels ; but surely the Stuart Papers 
were purchased of the Abb^ James Waters in or 
about 1810? These Papers having been thos 
incidentally referred to, I must draw attention to 

the fact, that for all historical pnrppses they miffht 
just as well have been sunk m the sea as buned 
in the Queen*s library. Some years since (1847) 
one octavo volume was published ; and we were 
told by the editor that the collection contained 
letters and documents "of ereat importance** to 
the elucidation of history ; but he aeferred any 
detailed account until the publication of " James* 
own correspondence.** Not a single volume has 
been since published. How is this? The more 
or less sole — the more or less profit or loss — is too 
trifling to weigh either way. If the labour of 
arranging, preparing, annotating, be too great for 
the eaitor, let the papers be deposited in the 
Museum, and I cannot doubt that we riiould have 
them published forthwith. C. Y. 


(Vol. xi., p. 1^.) 

A Student of History will find all the in* 
formation he requires in the Atlas GSogra^iqme, 
Astronomique et Historique, servant a Vinteu 
de IHistoire ancienne, du Moyen Age et 
et a la Lecture des Voyages les plus ricens, by 
G. Heck, fol., Paris, 1842. This Atlas, a copy of 
which I possess, consists of sixty-five maps, all 
executed in Uie most finished style of engraving, 
and truly admirable as a work of art. To give 
your correspondent some idea of the contents of 
this valuable series, I will enumerate the maps 
comprised under the bead of France, statii^ at 
the same time, that he will find the geography of 
all other countries, ancient and modem, eqnaU/ 
detailed in this excellent Atlas. The maps num- 
bered 23, 25, and 26, give respectively: — 8S. 
France at the death of Louis the Young fllSO); 
France after the Treaty of Br^tigny (1364); 
France after the expulsion of the English (146l) ; 
France at the end of the reign of Francis X 

1546). — 25. France under Louis XIV. (1700); 

Vance under the Consulate, after the Treaty of 
Luneville (1803). — 26. The states of Central 
Europe at the time of the greatness of the French 
Empire (1813). All these maps, be it observed, 
are exclusive of those which relate to modern 
France, which alone comprise six maps. With 
respect to Poland, the "Carte comparative des 
Etats de Tancienne Pologne** will supply erory 
geographical particular with re^d to that unfor- 
tunate and ill-used country which A Studeht Of 
History can desire to know. In short, this valtt- 
able French AUas majr be said to impart not only 
the geographical position, but the historical pro- 
gress, of the entire globe : and if your correanDon- 
dent can succeed in obtaining a oopy of it| 1 am 
sure he will agree with me in UiinkiDg it a perfeei 





D wfaicb the art of er^niTiiig •* can no 
\ go.** Jailks Srsscx Habbt. 

ma% hav« 


L — ^Tbs Itoliaa figure md fltedAl- 
kn in^gcsaicnif ind tBodAble mode of 
i asotber. SignorlWcnjii, for iosUn^ buys 
i fix»in rmre medali of ^gnor FActorini, toe 
r. Sigoor PfMrini mux obt^uos sutphur 
tliCM eftitf after tnsdiig Utem with boiled 
i rnouidt ^el! new casts snd enable PiHerini to 
I FftctafioL Of ooone tlie former employs some 
ttnui (wko if VBtamcUd) to deal with the lattov 
"^ I hard for tb» ymrhitfr fo fiaj which c^fti cunt 

^ thif lort ia going on with pnuseworthj 

g pbotoertpheis. It is fbond that alba- 

' g^rm •dmirable negMtlres. I hare leea 

i fialiiEftl Iriu hj anpflVpOiitkiL Yora hare 

I to Mt a good positire^diiiiiotmt it, copv 

iitaed pAptr, and 70a have a negatire whieb 

,..- rtrr nearJ^r eqoal to the oH^oaL I have 

why I did ^t to copy some or the pictures 

Uon by one of oiir best phi^tographers, by way 

10 kB<m' whether I woold aibm such as I 

opiid. But I have b^ii long deaf in ooe 

£1 deaf of that eAT. However, 1 know I 

why ihoald we allow oorMltres to be otit- 

tijr so beggmrly a act as thna ItaHtans? 



Lc«u. — The foUowiog extract from Tike Athe- 
rth Febrnarj' (p. 20 1 A is interestix^ aa showing 
U by DO means Impossiole that photography may 
een knowiL to tho ancients i and thei%re should 
msord is that part of '* N* & Q,*" which is deToled 
iaieniliiig art. 

the Xoseo Borbonico of Naples,*^ writes a corrc* 
It* who hae ju5t returned from Italy, ** and in the 
ted chamber which contains the engraved gems — 
id jewellery — fousd at Pompeii, I observed a lau of 
Jl glass, double convex, aod of about three inches 
^* This, the custode informed m% npon inquinr, 
bh discovered within the last week or two in the 
.cavations at Pompeii (the street in which stands 
■tt of Ui« nmsidans}. A slight flakiness of snrikce 
— Mnl manifcilatwiD of decay in glass — is re* 
aa tkisb I believe, nnktoe raUo of antiquity. 
mH bew perhaps, inclined to aappose its aae that of 
ng*€^Mm ntther than of an optiod instromeaL It 
taacnlar in lection ; and I am not aware that any 
of OpCie glasses have come down to us in classic 
ir«»" L. M- B. 

Lak» Frietti Pftolo^ri^, — We bare received 

of Soot beaniiful photographs recently published 

Laka Fiiee. They are enUtled Gmevra; Tke 

Weltime ; Hftour Je OkdJse; And The Gmrt C^t- 

ire copies of the pictures exhibited by this 

it the Photographic Exhibition, where they 

s we ticfbre obeervwl, some of the moat inleresting 

In the room. These saedmani are of an entirely 

i&ractef, belDg marked by great artistic feeling, 

' L^te both in the grouping and in the arrange* 

v«noBft ol^eeta of art and vertu introdoced as 

Mr. Price seecna destined to add to the 

which h(9 has alreadr acquired as an ic6om* 

i artist, hy the skill which he is displaying In this 

new and interesting department of what in his haiula 
may well be called Art 

Fa^Mf o^PAotopn^aAs.^— The fiidinf of photographs li^ 
in my opim&a, the most fhtal blow whicfa miafortane haa 
dealt to the art^ Bad pictnres are not half so injuiioua. 
A porchaser has means of exercising his judgment of tho 
value ii^ a picture the moment he sees it ; but he has no 
means of teating its durability. I have an early pictore of 
Mb. Fox TAUiar'fl^ which has a Aided border all round 
where it was attached to the card-boanL I have also had 
melancholy proofs of the troth of what has been said 
about the chemical action of 9ome papers. Whether such 
papers be used for mounting, or form the leaves of the 
book in which vou put your picture those pictures be- 
come partially bleached. A friend of mine, who is noi 
only a good photographer but an excellent chemist, is 
terribly afraid of paste. He says he is sure that bis p^e^ 
though airoply and carefully pfepared^ has helped to 
destroy his pictures. He therefore betook himsdf to clean 
gum arabic Upon this representation, some time ago, I 
tried the gum arabic, applying it all over the backs of the 
pictures. It did not turn dark (as I had been told by 
some that it would), and up to thia time the nictures re< 
main unchanged. If the gnm arabic ba in itself innocent, 
surelv it may also be pr^^ative ; that is» it may form a 
wall between the picture and the mounting, so as to pro* 
tect the former against chemical ingredients that 
exist in the latter. 

rm a 


%tplki to fRinat ^nttitsi. 

Psalms printed in New England (Vot xL, 
p. 153.). — A copy of this most rare volume is 
among Bishop Tanner** books in the Bodleian, 
Librarjr. The full title and a collation will 
found in Archdeacon Cotton*» account of Editio 
of the Bible and Parts thereof in English^ printed! 
at Oxford, at the University Press, 1852, in 8vo, 
This very valuable and correct manual is not aa 
ffenemlly known as it deserves ; but to all persons 
mterested in enrly tranalutions of the Old and 
New Testament, or the Psnlras, or in the various 
editions of the same, no authority can be more 
relied on, and no information can be more satii- 
factory, than will be found in Dr. Cotton*s book. 

In consulting the volume to which 1 have re- 
ferred» it must be borne in mind that Dr. CottoitJ 
does not profess to record editions of the autkonsem^ 
translation (unaccompanied by notes or having 
some peculiarity) after the tf ear 1611 ; nor does he 
enumerate editions of the Fsalxna, as translated by 
Sternhold and Hopkins, after 1700, nor of Btidf 
and Tate's version qfter 1728* 

This is a necessary caution, since in more than 
one bookseller's catalogue you sometimes meet 
with " not noticed hj Dt, Cotton," when if he had 
noticed the volume m questioa he would have de- 
parted from hb original design. P* B» 

RaleigKs " Silent Lover" (Vol xi, p. 101.),— 1 
The lines given by T. Q. C, which he justly de-/ 
scribes as " graceful^*" are by Sir Walter Ealeigh. 
The poem is entitled The StUtU Lover^ and con- 



[No. 279. 

ristB of nine stanzas, of wbieh those giren by C. 
are the 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 8th. The variations 
are so numerous, that your correspondent has 
prohablj anren the lines from memory. This 
poem has been hardly treated. Ellis and Camp- 
bell gire seven stanzas only ; Ritson eight, omit- 
ting the first: 
"PanioDi ara liken'd best to floods and streams; 
The shallow mnrmar, bat the deep are dumb. 
So, when aflhctions yMld disooutsef it seems 
The bottom is but shallow whence they come : 
They that are rich in woids most neede discover. 
They are but poor in that which makes a lover.*' 

Sir Egerton Brydges speaks of this poem as, — 

''A most extraordinary one; terse, harmonicas, pointed, 
often admirably ezpreseed. It seems to have anticipated 
a centory in its style." 

The eighth stanza, Sir Egerton tells us in 1814, — 

''was, by some strange anachronism, current aboat fifty 
ysaiB ago, amongst toe circles of fiuhion, as the prodne- 
tlon of the late celebrated Eari of Chesterfield.'' 

It is quoted in his 183rd letter with this prefaoe : 

''A man had better talk too much to women than too 
little ; they take silence for duliiess, unless where they 
think the passion they have inspired occasions it, and in 
that case they adopt the notion that — 

" Silence in love bewrays more woe 
Than words, though ne'er so witty ; 
A beggar that is dumb, you know. 
May challenge* double pity!*' 

J. H. M. 

The Iruh Palatines (VoL xi., p. 87.). — In my 
MSS. Indexes of Aids for Genealogical Re- 
iearchee, I find the references, at the word " Pa- 
laUne,*" to the Irish Lords Journals^ vol. ii. p. 312. ; 
History of Q^eeu Anne, vols. i. and ii. ; but yet 
more to a manuscript in Primate Marshes library 
here, classed V. 3. i. 27., wherein are, as I entered 
the title some years since, ^* Documents relative to 
the Palatines, and Lists of their Families.** 

JoHn D*Altox. 

48. Summer Hill. Dublin. 

Sir Thomas Prendergast (Vol. xi., pp. 12. 89.). 
— It may be interesting to learn that this Pren- 
dergast succeeded in obtaining two grants of, in 
the total, 7082 acres, " upon nas the first Report 
6f the Commissioners of the Forfeitures in De- 
cember, 1699, expresses it) the most valuable 
consideration of his discovering a most barbarous 
and bloody conspiracy to assassinate the king's 
most excellent majesty, to destroy the liberties of 
England, and in consequence the Protestant re- 
Ejion throughout Europe." The Irish House of 
Commons had for this service passed a vote of 
Aanks to him in September, 1697. It would 
appemr, from the correspondence of the Lords 
JusUoes of Ireland at the period, that he was him- 
fdf at first apprehended, on his return from 

^'D^swesa."— /^onra 

France, as behig implicated in the contpirtey; 
that he made his terms by informing, and theron 
implicated Sir John Friend, who was on the 
strength of his information executed for high 
treason. The ^solemn entry" to which Mk. 
Deane alludes may therefore be considered but 
the natural daguerreotype of an rrer-preaent and 
painful reminiscence. Johh D*Ai.t0V. 

48. Snmmer Hill, Dublin. 

Sir Samuel SofnaU (Vol. xi., p. 85.). -^I do 
not find this individual projected m Ireland until 
the close of the reign of Queen Elizabeth, whsa 
his ^doings** in Munster are frequently chroni- 
cled in the Pa4Xita Hiherma, I should think, when 
in this country, he was not encumbered widi wift 
or children, and that Craktham*6 Queries will bt 
best directed to England. The name did not aopear 
at all in Ireland until the time of Edward VL, in 
the county Down. It wis subsequently ettih 
blished of tenure and rank io the counties of 
Wicklow and Carlow. In one of the genealogiesi 
MSS. in our Trinity College (F. 3. 270« ,are pre- 
served some broken links of the pedimes of 
Ba£;nalls of Kewry, of Dunlukney, and of Idroa. 

I take this opportunity of affain soliciting any 
attainable manuscript aid touching the campaigfl 
of 1640-1 in this country, towards enriching and 
verifying my illustrations of the families in Kinff 
James*s Army List. I have already fair copied 
four hundred pages (about half the proposed 
work) for the press. Jour D'AliMp 

48. Snmmer Hill, Dublin. 

I cannot at present answer the Queries of yodr 
correspondent Chjlrtham regarding Sir Samnd 
Bngnall ; I think it very probable that I ahall he 
able to do so later, and m that case will not fail to 
do so through your paper. In the meantime I 
can assure him that Sir Ralph Bagnall did murj 
Elizabeth, the daughter of my ancestor, Robert 
Whi(grea?e of Burton, but that that lady was ths 
third, and not the second daughter of Robert 
Whitgreave (as stated by your correspondent)^ 
The second diinghter bore the name of Margareti 
and died unmarried. Faaxcis WfliTGKBAVSi 

Burton Manor, near Stafibrd. 

Booch or Butch Family (Yo\, xi., p. 86.). — 
Any requisition as to King James*s army I take 
M personal; but the question in this case is too 
vaguely put to be answered. " Elizabeth Boochi 
or Butch, settled in Dublin one hundred yeixs 
since. Her husband's father was an officer in 
James*s army.*^ His name is not given. If Boocfc 
was the name expected to be found, I dtatiiietly 
negative its being on the roll ; a William Boottb 
lieutenant in Colonel C^harles Cavanagh's inftatiTi 
is the closest aitimilatioa I can find on the whob 
Xtst Jon D*i 

48. Sommsr Hfil, DnbBn. 


a. 1855.] 



I miMnrgarer (Vol xl, p. 87.)*— In 
lie Or^imt Ohdamm (2nd edit. 175S), Mr 
Hqmwm, tlbe editor of that wivrk, adftpied 
^Witlua luid Margiret** to the old tune of 
Id Jolitiioiii't 8ooU Muxictd Mmtemm (1803), 
nilMm tod Margaret** » adifiled to a slow me* 
1 bj Mr. S. Cbrkeoffidmburgh. D. 

. CfuMerfi Bmaitu (Vol. H.. t>.325.) --No 
anvwer ha« j«t cppeared tu ^ regarding, 

1|L the identitj of the rtt uid in 1537, 

Hm those Jbond in 1827; 2Dd, the eyidence to 

^InfinD the BenedictiDe tradition. 

J. It K, will find both quefttiona discussed at 
len^tli in Tkf History of St. CtUhbert (Burns, 
184*)). Tbe <ii*00Ter7 of 1537, ami tU;*t of 1827, 
12 treated of pp. 182— ] 99, ; the tradition, pp. 199 
—206. P- A, F, 

has made two mistakes in the passage (p. 74*) 
where he ^UAes : 

Catholic tXian, no lonm, or 

of Blaoflv a naall aqfuare pi«ee of marble ji Itt 

wood, OQ which a single cross is inmried" 

altars are ahrajs built of stone, as 
I bj the Fontifical ; and though it was the 
' \ this country to make them of wood, as 
J arraDgement, the custom has yielded 
to vere mrect ritualism. Nor were thoae tem* 
porierj wooden altar* erer comecrated. 

Again, ihe small square piece uf marble, called 
fke *^ altar stooe,'* that used to be let into these 

Cn altart, alwajs had five croMes cut Into It. 
km of the Crimea (Vol. x., p. 533-). — Sul* 
tao Kuta Ghery Crini Ghery married Miss Anne 
Kd3«on of this city, whose mother still resides 
here. The Sultan is dead ; his mother lires nenr 
the field of Alma. A son serves tn the Russian 
ioiity, 1 belieye in the Crimea ; and a daughter Is, 
or was lately, a lady-in-waiting to one of the 
Imperial family^ — X belieTe to the wife of the 
Gnod Duke Conita&tine. B. (3) 

Orford Jem ^Esprit (Vol- x., p. 431.). — In 
mm of the November Numbers of '' N. k Q.," X 
iMP a Query as to the authorship of a little 
Greeh mock-heroic poem, public bed some years 
a^ in Oxford, The last Ime of the poem was 
gifoi, hoi X cannot here refer to the Number, cr 
nedll 11 by memory ; but X remember recognising 
il (and was biternipleil in my purpose of writing 
to f&m to say so) aa ihe Last line ofa auisi Home- 
lie d«tcri|iiton ofa "* frogs and sttoe** baltia ta the 
Uttbn Debating Society, of whieb the title was 


o^to^ytA, and the antthor was Mr. Robert Seotf, 
of Christ Church, the present Master of BallioL 

It 18 proper to add^ however, that the idea of 
the pi»em was not originaL It followed imme- 
diately upon the publication of Mr. Robert I^we*B 
exquisitely- amnsmg Anglo- Virgilian description 
of the Duchess of Kent and Princess Victoria's 
vbit to the university ; a ** clever trifle,'* aa The 
Athenaum called it, which could hardly be sur- 

Mr. Seott'a poem was adniirabl/ done, in the 
same style, but of course had not the merit of 
noTelty of idea. The jesr of publication was 
1S32 or '3. One of its best hits was the frtnM- 
laiion of Dr. Macbride into TTo^f I'oiro^ ; and Dr. 
Jenkins, the late Master of Bolliot, was, I remem- 
ber, well satisfied with his own description : 

I send this because I ha^e not seen any answer 
to the question, though there may hare neen one, 

C.W. H. 

Armorial (Vol. xi.^ p. 87.), — As regards the 
first shield, your correspondent has blaaoned it 
incorrectly. The reading should be : Aanre, a 
griflSn *egrettnt or. This is the coat armour of 
several families named Beade. The second shield 
contains the arms of one of the many families of 
Foster. Consult Burke's Armorie. 

lioBEXT S. SautoN. 


Pateal, Smjing of (Vol Tiii., p* 44.),— While 
looking to-day far references to " Party ** in the 
indices of " ^. H QV* my eye waa caught bv the 
word ** Pascal,** and I find that in my Reply OQ 
the " Saying of Voltaire" (Vol x., p. 134), I re- 

rated the reply by R. E. T. that I refer to above, 
hope this acltnowledgmeiit, though somewhat 
late, will be accepte<l both by Editor and corre- 
spondent as a proof that the repetition was inad* 

Allow me, by way of postscript to this esplaa* 
ation, to quote a short passage that bears a strotuj, 
though X belieye accidental resemblance to Pascal i 
witty paradox : 

» Jc mc mis dc toite i T^pcmdre ^ ma chire ftcluse, arec 
llntentlon d** ne lui t»crire que quelqoes Ugaas, comnie «Ue 
m* le rceommandait ; mais je n'avais pas asse* de t^nnps 
pout loi £criie ai pcu. Jla lettne fut un verhifige de 
qnatre pages, et ell« dit peut-etre mohis que la stenne 
n'^xprimjut dans i^^^* ^ M€miArt% de JaefutB Cuontwt^ 
lome n. chap, v., FauUii, Parian INS. 

C. FoBJiAk 


Tkamat Htmiom (Vol xi., p. 86.). — All that 
appears to be known of Thomas Ilouston is com- 
prised in the following brief extract : 

" 1803, Dec 27. Died ia the Inllfwaiy at SswcasOs^ i 
Thomas Houston, hraasfoander, ag«d 26. Ht was tMi 



aatbor of Tl^e Race to IleU; Frogrets of Madnest ; Pocmt^ 
Giles, and Sonas t Tht Term* Day, or the UnjHst Steward; 
a comed>% tma varioua other pieces of considemble tneriL 
Hewa5 intcrrod in the burial -ground belonging to tho 
infimtjuy," — Syko*' Local Records (first edition, 1824), 
p. 21d. 

RoBEBT S. SAiaiOIf. 
Ne wcjutle -on-Tyae. 

Burial btf Torck-lighl (Vol xL, p. 27.)- — I can 
flay nothing aa to the legality or illegality of 
torch-light burials ; but tliat they were frequent 

■ in Newctt8tle-oa-Tyne during tbe continuance of 
the cholera, in September and October, 1853, I 
can vouch. The necessity during that fearful time 
may^ perhaps, have made lis own law. 

Mr, Fraser's Query reminds me also of the 
funeral of the Ducheiis of Northumberland in 
1782, whichj saya a correspondent of Mr. Urban 
in the Gentleman s Magazine for 1817, voUlxxxvii. 
part ii, p. 33,,—- 

" Took plnco by torch-light at foar ia the morning, to 
avoid tho mischief of toa great a nutober of peraoni io- 
torruptiiig theaame; which, however, was not tho case, 
ai the concourAQ of p«opli} wu so numerooa ni the screen a 
to the small chapela flurrounding the south aisle of tho 
choir (in tho farther end of which ia the Percy vault), 
that many had their arma and legs broken, aud were 
otherwiije much bruised. «... From this time no burials 
have beeo performed by torch -light except royal ones, a 
sufiicieat guard attending to keep ordii^r on the occasion," 

Rohebt S, Salmoit. 
Newcastle -oa-Tyne. 

PThat funerals by night are illegal, must be a 
vulgar and local error ; fJjr^ by the 68th Canon, 
" No minister can refuse to bury a corpse that ii 
brought/' &c. (warning having been given), except 
in the three instances well known. There la no 
limit as to time; I have buried hundreds by candle- 
light in iny last parish. Indeed, cases oi felo-de-se^ 
by a recent enactment, are to take place between 
nine and twelve p.m, H. T, Ellacomde. 

B Lord Audleif*^ AtkndanU at Foktiers (Vol. viii-t 

" D. 4B4.). — Under the head of *^ Black worth, 
Bart.," ilr, Burke mentions that tbe represent- 
atives of tbe four esquires of Lord Audley served 
together during the Peninsular War as aides-de- 
camp to Lord HilL Who were these latter tour, 
ftnd which of Lord Audley *s esquires was the an- 
cestor of each F Y. S, M. 

H Schoolboy Formtda (VoL x., p. 124.). — I do 
not tbink any of your correspondents have hit 
upon quite the right version of the above* I have 
ft perfect recollection of the following : 

" Onery, twoery, jtiggerj', xan, 
Hollow booe, crsiclter bone, mulberry pan. 
Pit, pat, mmst be done, 
Twidd ledum, twaddledum, twenty -one. 
OUTapcOsont — 
Aud so you are fairly out/' 


Smh, Books relating ta (VoL x., p. 4S5.).- 
I observe that several correspondenU hm ^ I 
plied to Adeiah ADuncAzt^s Query relatiff tl 
books on seala, by referritig him to vanoia Aft I 
glish, Scotcb, and French works beaiing on ty I 
subject. As Ai>RiAN Aj>ifiifAjr, bowever, ^0»l 
ally wishes to know " whether tliere is oaj wij 
which contains engravings of the coronMxi wn 
of the London City Livery Companies?** I If I 
to refer bim, simpHciter^ to a copy of BailerV ^1 
tionarjf of the English Lctnguage^ foUo, 
1736 (with iUuatrutions), where he wiU fiodi 
he is in pursuit of, all ^^cut and dry** to biil 

JoHn Xioi*| 

Sea Spiders (Tol xi., p, IL), — Ses 
(Ni/mphon gracilo f ) are found in the 
Frith, but they are very rare. I have foaaAl 
two specimens. One or two more only ht««l 
observed. They were found in deep water, I 
brought up amongst the refuse of the ! 
lines. Wi| 

Macduff, Banff. 

nelics of King Charles J. (Vol, vi., pp. lltSH^l 
VoL vii,, p, 184.; VoL x,, pp. 245. 4ia 1^ [ 
VoL xL, p. 73.)^ — 

"At Broomfield, neur Chelmsford, is a Bibk^ 
belonged to Kmg Cliarles tho First, the dat* aaUB^ 
Norton and Bt'Il printers. It is a folio, bound nf*^ I 
velvety the arms of England richly- eQibroidend aM I 
covers; and on a fly-leaf ia written: *This KM»*l 
King Chades the First's, afterwards it was mv c«^ I 
father's, Patrick Young's, Esq., who was Libnur fif^ I 
to hb Majeaty; now given to the Church at Bi^oafc'l 1 
by me, Sarah' Attwood, August 4th, 1723.' TbeBi^' 
perfect, but there is no dgnature to sheet 1: Uiepif 
run from 81 to 87* there b«ing no 85 jind 86. 1 4ft^ 
And the book imcntioaed in Mor«nt*8 HUtory ofE»^^ I 
any mcMlcrn publication; and I think it is a r«li£ ^ 

This paragraph I copy from my commonpl*-'^ 
booki to which it was transferred from aa <-^ 
number of The AthentBum. I cannot "itc ^ 
reference to page or volume. C. F.t j 

Normanton-on-Soar, Xotta, 

The worst of Charles I/s relies Is, that % J 
worthy owners always will have it that the 
given by the unfortunate king on ihe ^_ ._ 
list of all the rin|^9, watches, &c., he is r^pucS 
have carried to the scaffold, would be carioai; 
but, according to tbe traditions of some fam'li* 
heaven took backgammon-boards and scttof bok 
hangings with him there. 

The backgammon- board is a very beaalifiJ 
article; and though we may doubt the scd&li' 
part of the story, there seems no reason to dooH 
tbttt it belonged to King Charles ; wjks giveii bf 
him to Bishop Juxon, and conveyed by mtrtia^ 
by Juxon*s heiress to its present owncft, *•• 
Heskeths of BufTord in Lancashire. It is tqnm 

Kab. Sw 1855.] 



file MK of axL ordioarj cliea»-board« and formed 
vutatfy of opaque ana traBSparenl amber and 
cbMttA tSirer. The counters are amber likewise ; 
aad oo eack is a cameo bead of tbe kings of Eng- 
land from Ibe Conquest to James I. It is an 
exquisite piece of trorkman&bip, eren if it had no 
traditional Interest to recommend it. Axon. 

Ancieni ChalUl Property w Ireland (Vol. xi^ 
II.97.)* — Ercn at tbe dose of the seventeenth 
centurj, ibe value of Irifih moveables was remark- 
mbly smdL In a relation of the sufferings (^ tbe 
Quakers during that period^ entitled — 

** The Great Cry of Oppreiaioti : written by one who, 
in obedience to tbe Lord^s Call» is <«fne oat of Mister)^ 
BabyloQ* Anit ia known by tbe Name of \i\llliaiii Stock- 

— we have lists of various properties seized for 
non-payment of t jtbe^ with their values. Though 
we mar suppose them rated as highly as possible^ 
to make the case more distressing, we find the 
following: — T«ro lambs and one sheep, worth six 
•billings ; two lambs, worth two shilling ; a mare, 
worth one pound ; two cheeses, worth four sbil- 
Engs; four small Pitches of bacon, worth nine 
duTliii^ and tenpenee ; a horse, worth one pound ; 
a cow, worth one pound ten shillings. 

The names of man^ of the persecuted indicate 
a Puritan origin : I find *' Blessing Sandham," 
** Deliverance Goulby,** "Noblest Dunscome," 
•* Trever^e Lloyd^" and ** Melior Heel," settled in 
DuWiu, R, C. Wabde. 


** €?nBmiQmgdoi in cceloy" Jr. (YoK xi., p. 105.). 
— In A^gustin s Enarraiio, in Psalmum cxl viii. 8. 
sect. 10. tom. iv. p. 1250 d. of the Benedictine 
e^tion (Antwerp, 1700), the following passage 

^ Qai f«dt in eoelo angelain. ipse fecit in teni vermi- 
caham z aed sog^lmn in enalo pro babittiticm« ccelevti, var- 
nicBliim ia tetri pro habiutlone UrrestrL" 

Tlu9 niaj probably have been the origin of the 
paange referred to by A Natcbalist : and Au- 
potin, who often expresses sentiments of a simi- 
brkind in different parts uf his writing:?, may 
possibly have the very words quoted by your cor- 
i«spondent in some other part of hia voluminous 
works. T, CHBVAixiaa. 


**Tke Savag€*' (Tol x., p. 364.).— This work 
^Hi republished in this city about etgbt or ten 
jetTB ago. No more than one volume was ever 
ivbtisbed. I endeavoured some months ago, with* 
JW iQccesi, to discover the name of the author. 

Rwningo** is, of course, a aom d^ plume. About 
tte lime tbat the second edition appeared, I saw 
** ^ken of in a newipaper as the first book 

• Th^ Ja M §att cfcohphitn. 

written by a native of Tennessee. It was originallj 
published in weekly numbers, afterwards bound 
up in a volume* 

There is much talent in many of tbe essays ; 
and the writer, whoever he was, wielded a vigo- 
rous pen. The work is blemished by sceptical 
opinions upon religious subjects. Thia, probably, 
was a recommindation to the person who repub- 
lished it. Ubbda. 


Distribuhng Money at Marriagti (Vol. xi., 
p. G2-). — In every part of ScotUnd with which I 
am acquainted, tne marriage ceremony is per- 
formed at the residence of the bride. About the 
time it is expected the young couple are to start 
on their marriage jaunt, all the boys and girls of 
the neighbourhood assemble in front of the house, 
and amuse themselves by calling out, " Bell money, 
beU money, shabby waddtn, shabby waddin, canna 
spare n bawbee." These shouts are more than 
redoubled when the door is opened to let the 
bride and bridegroom out, who are accompanied 
to the carriage by most of the company ; Mid as 
the pushing and shoving of tbe crowd would be 
very inconvenient, some one of the party at this 
moment showers a quantity of coppers and small 
silver amongst them, thereby drawing their at- 
tention away from the "young folks/* who, under 
cover of this " diversion," are driven off. 


Signar CaroUni^ Dr. Barnveldt^ and the Aidhor 
of ^ Key to the Dunciad*" (Vol. xi., p. 98.). — The 
speculative conjecture of S. R, is worth consider- 
ation. As he gives the motto from Carolini, — 
" Out comes the *ooA, and the Key follows after.' 

1 send that to " The Key,'' to which he only j 
fers from memory : 

** How easily two wits M^vtii, 
One finds lAe Poem •, one the K^J" 

S. C, B. 
Dotdfle Chrkiian Names (Vol. x., pp. 18. 133. 
276. 413.). — I am not aware that any one of 
your contributors has hitherto produced an in- 
stance of a dotdfle christian name so early as 

2 Hen, v., ann. 1414. In a MS. chronicle re- 
cently intrusted to me by your correspondent 
J. S. D., — which we have discovered to be un- 
doubtedly the " namelesse old MS." quoted by the 
historian Speed, in his Hi^t, of Great Brit.^ b. vii- 
ch. 12. p, 193. b., — " Maiater William Harri 
Chicheli '' is mentioned as Archbishop of Canter- 

Mr. J. Gough Nichols, in his Topographer and 
Geneakgiji^ par. xv. (June, 1854) p. 275-, gives 
us a yet earlifr instance, temp. Hen. IV., vu^ 
*^Sir Thomas-Richard Ell^i^oV Y;.^^A^ VViO> W 
1408, levied txoo^* m XotV*Vvc«> %lc. \^'«iQSi 
same page Mr. KicVoXa ^^^ ^ ^\a!ue« vBA\*siSft^ 




Yiz^ '*Sir John Gascoigne Ellis of Eiddall, 158^, 
joined the rojal standard at Nottingham, and 
was grievouslj wounded at Edge Hill.** 

John Sansoh. 

Submerged Bells (Vol. x., p. 204.). — In a late 
Qwtrterfy^ No. CXC. p. 334., in an article on 
Bells, we have been treated with several legends of 
churches swallowed up, and of their bells sending 
out their wonted music on certain occasions from 
the depths of the earth, one of which b that given 
in " N. & Q.," Vol. X., p. 204., to which may be 
added a note, as given in Mr. Hawker's Poems^ 
of the Cornish legend of the bells of Bottreaux, — 

** That they were once shipped for this chnrch, but that 
when the vessel was within sight of the tower, the blas- 
phemy of her captain was punished by the loss of liis 
ship. The bells arc supposed to lie in the bay,.and an- 
nounce by strange sounds the approach of a storm." 

Think what we may of these, there is one re- 
corded by Angelo Roccha in his Commentary, in 
the chapter of Admiranda de Campanis, which is 
too good to be severed from the others. It will be 
best given in his own words : ; 

** In Ecclesia Ordinis fratrum Gannelitarum Valcntie 
(quiB est urbs insignis Citerioris Hispaniie, tribns millibus 
passuum a mari remota) extat Capella Beatie Marie 
semper Virginia, de consolatione nnncupatse, in qua sub 
terra, et profunde quidem jacebat Campana, quss a vetula 
quadam ob vits probitatem insigni, et prope dictam Ca- 
pelkm degente circa an. Dom. 1490, singulo nuoquc sero, 
prusscrtim vero in Sabbato, <^uando scilicet Campana ad 
salutationom Angelicam recitandam sonori solet, Cam- 
pana ilia subterranea sponto sua sonare audiobatur. Hac 
re tandem promulgata, Kector Conventus Cannelitani, 
locum ilium a vetula indicatum exeavari jussit. Hinc 
terra excavata, profundoque cavca illic ciTecta, Campana 
ipsa, tandem aiiquando inventa fuit, infra quam crat 
imago Beatfc Mariro semper virginis lignca et aurata, 
quam tempore barbaricarum incursionum in loco illo sub- 
terranco inclusum fuiase a Christi Fidelibus, conjecturam 

H. T. EiiLAcoMnE. 

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